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"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

gretavo's picture

The Sibel Edmonds Limited Hangout Danger

Clarification: 'Sibel Edmonds' Story Makes the MSM!'

The story above is about the article on Sibel Edmonds by Philip Giraldi published by the American Conservative.  Philip Giraldi is a partner of Cannistraro associates, which publishes the "intelligence newsletter"  below, that seems to pride itself on "predicting"  significant "terrorist"  events.

 

http://intelligencebrief.net/aboutib.htm

Harley Guy's picture

False Flag Debunker

Whoever is behind this guy's act it's brilliant! This guy is a truther without question, perfidiously harming the cause of the cover-up. Actually, no, this really is the state of the cover-up at this point...


kate of the kiosk's picture

the orchestrated/organized campaign, not conspiracy, but not fair says moyers


Lazlo Toth's picture

Mearsheimer and Walt’s Conclusion Related to WTCD Mission Statement

Among the six or seven books I have been reading my way through since December, I have finally reached the end of Professors Mearsheimer and Walt’s “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy,” and as one prominent section of their concluding comments is clearly related to the information this blogsite (WTCD) regularly deals with and tries to educate people about, I thought I would share with you here some of their final comments.

gretavo's picture

unholywar


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when the people standing next to me decide that they cant take anymore
and the people far away from me are already lined up at the shore
youve seen the worst but i can tell you that the worst theyve seen is worst of all

thats why they heed the call to fight their holy war but all of them are whores in an unholy war

i feel just like a whore in an unholy war

when i think of all the chances thAT WEVE HAD TO PUT AN END TO WAR AND WE JUST CLOSED THE DOOR
and though ive given it some thought ive always known that i could give much more i feel just like a whore in an unholy war

gretavo's picture

gather ye rosebuds


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juandelacruz's picture

By Making Holocaust Personal to Pupils, Sarkozy Stirs Anger

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/world/europe/16france.html?_r=1&ex=136...

It's strange how current events take on a different meaning once you have started to explore alternate accounts of history.

gretavo's picture

Bob Bowman

Found this in my email archives--i saved a few from that time. Weird, eh?

----- Original Message -----
From: Gretavo
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: pass it on!

>> Hello all,
>>
>> No humorous Taliban emails today; instead, the rantings of a lunatic who dares to question our government's intentions and the value of war...
>>
>> Gret
>>
>>
>>
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What Can We Do About Terrorism?
© 2001 by Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret.

Keenan's picture

Interesting Op Ed from sister of Charles F. "Chic" Burlingame III, the pilot of American Airlines flight 77

Writing for the Wall Street Journal, Debra Burlingame charges that the Clintons are too soft on terrorism and provides an account of how the Clintons put votes ahead of good policy in the 1990s when President Bill Clinton gave pardons to 16 jailed members of Armed Forces of National Liberation, FALN (the Spanish acronym), "a clandestine terrorist group devoted to bringing about independence for Puerto Rico through violent means."

gretavo's picture

Victims' Families' Petition's Signing by Noam Chomsky Trotted Out as News by 911B's SBG

somebiguy just posted the fact that Noam Chomsky signed this one year ago (Feb 2007), as

Noam Chomsky joins 9/11 “Jersey” widows in calling for release of 9/11 documents

Incompetence or conspiracy, sbg? I mean, not only is this not news, but the timing is awful suspicious what with the current LIHOP campaign underway.

Read the "Jersey Girls'" petition and tell me what their agenda is...

Public's Right To Know - Declassification and Release of Documents

View Current Signatures - Sign the Petition

Big_D's picture

Interesting Video From Crooks & Liars

Yeah it's the typical right wing bashing only with a few surprises.


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/12/open-thread-719/

kate of the kiosk's picture

Muslims who speak out

www.cair.com

Here's an organization that supports Muslims in America. I highly recommend checking this site out from time to time for issues, articles, like this campaign for Gaza:

http://www.cair.com/ArticleDetails.aspx?mid1=763&&ArticleID=24134&&name=n&&currPage=1

and this one on islamophobia:

gretavo's picture

Family Member™ Lorie van Auken Goes on CNN to Help Promote Guantánamo Six™ Trial

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the electric dervish


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ok, so this is kinda raw, and certainly not for the faint-hearted. If you like it rough and dirty and have a thing for furious tabla drumming, check it out, though!

Alright, I followed up on Tahooey's suggestion and added a voiceover, courtesy of the windows screenreader and, of course, lots of distortion -- in fact so much that I'm not sure if you can still understand.

So, just in case, here are the lyrics:

Do you believe ideology commands the laws of nature?

Guess you have to if you still buy their crap.

gretavo's picture

What role did the Guantánamo Six™ really play in the 9/11 crimes?

Supporting actors in cover-up drama.
40% (8 votes)
Loaded explosives in the towers and building 7 while disguised as workmen.
5% (1 vote)
Found dancing and high fiving on top of white vans while videotaping themselves with the burning towers in the background.
0% (0 votes)
They are Sibel Edmond's script writers who recently ended their strike.
10% (2 votes)
Commandeered two popular 9/11 blogs and purged thoughtcriminals.
10% (2 votes)
Processed Mossadmed Atta's Pork Chop Transfer From Patsystanâ„¢
20% (4 votes)
Produced Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?
15% (3 votes)
Total votes: 20
Keenan's picture

"Kill Muslims to Purify the Earth"

Christian Right's Emerging Deadly Worldview: Kill Muslims to Purify the Earth

The War Against Tolerance

By Chris Hedges, Truthdig. February 11, 2008.

Christian extremists are preaching a war against tolerance to target and persecute all Muslims, including the 6 million who live in the U.S.

Lazlo Toth's picture

Hear, O foolish Israel !

Hear, O foolish Israel !
O seditious, lying, murderous enemy of Humanity!
I come to you as a Warner!
Bomb the people and land of Iran,
or launch one more false flag terror operation against the people of North America or Europe,
and the entire World will unite as one to cause that you are removed forever from the pages of time and history.

gretavo's picture

LIHOP Limited Hangout Campaign Continues

This is important because when people see the 11th of the month actions, they may assume that all those people are saying what Sander Hicks is saying, which couldn't be farther from the truth. To call Sander Hicks a truther is absurd. Sander Hicks is a fake truther with a LIHOP limited hangout bridge for sale...

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Swiped from Apt.911B:

Submitted by Mekt_Ranzz on Mon, 02/11/2008 - 3:42pm.
9/11 conspiracy theoris | Anthony Dick | Sander Hicks | Stanford Law School | The Civil Rights Civil Liberties Society

gretavo's picture

visualizing 9/11

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