911Blogger's Fake Truthers Continue to Argue in Favor of Government Story, Cite "SITE Intelligence Group"
Anyone else enjoying the controlled demolition of 911Blogger?
ATTENTION MOVEMENT! Al qaeda has now released a
statement confirming Bin Ladens death. Still think its fake? Don't you
see its good that he will never walk the earth again to be used as a
propaganda tool?
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There is also footage today
There is also footage today of pakistanis
marching through the streets in protest of bin ladens killing. Let me
give some advice to all of you, if you can't proove that an official
account is false don't assume it is without getting positive evidence
first. We need to hold ourselves to a higher standard, we can't just say
that official reports are automatically false, especially if we have no
evidence and they do.
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If you want this movement to
If you want this movement to gain wide
acceptance then we have to stop positioning ourselves on the margins of
mainstream political discourse. Saying bin laden wasn't killed is a gift
to our opponents. You are all aware that his wife was there and id'd
the body right?
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Vulich, Best To Argue From The Basis Of Facts
OBL was never convicted in a criminal court,
therefore we cannot establish his guilt absolutely. It is important
assert that the question of his guilt unknowable given the facts
available.
As well we do not have absolute proof of his death and should not
accept his death as a statement of fact. This is crucial so we dont
adopt technically incorrect arguments.
It is extremely unpopular to counter the media blitz of false
celebration however we must try to stick to the standards of law
required to establish guilt in the regular sense especially in such an
important case of international law and for the sake of faithfully
recording history..
We dont have to say that he wasn't killed, just that more
evidence(that can be objectively analysed) is required before these
questions can be resolved conclusively. conclusive in the sense of the
nanothermite discovery in the WTC dust by Jones, Harrit et all.
Thanks for bringing up this topic. .
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Absolute proof
only exists in vodka (and mathematics, maybe), but not in science and epistemology in general.
OBL was killed in that house, I think you're in denial. Unlike Al
Qaeda, who admit their leader's death. What's next, Al Qaeda is all
fake, right? Of course..
Technically incorrect? From DNA testing to computers in the Situation
Room, I see nothing but technically incorrect and/or questionable
arguments trotted out to protect the 9/11 TM's newest conspiracy theory.
It's stupid, and it's embarrassing.
People were WOUNDED and people DIED in that house. Iran admits OBL
was killed. Hezbollah admits OBL was killed. Hamas admits OBL was
killed. Lashkar-e-Taiba admits OBL was killed. Taliban admits OBL was
killed. AQAP admits OBL was killed. Muslim Brotherhood admits OBL was
killed. OBL's daughter and wife were there and saw it happen.
If the government released a DNA test, you would say it's fake. If it
released footage of a burial, you'd say the white sheet was filled with
a dummy. If it released a photo, you'd say OBL was thawed from a
freezer and shot. Or the photo photoshopped. Come on now, we all know
how it works. You're seeing severe cultlike belief perseverance at work.
The conspiracy theorizing has begun, to whitewash the shame, rather
than accept severe error on the part of many in this movement.
This is the Pentagon attack all over again, with all the same cognitive flaws.
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Snowcrash, I'd like to see
better proof than this:
"People were WOUNDED and people DIED in that house. Iran admits OBL
was killed. Hezbollah admits OBL was killed. Hamas admits OBL was
killed. Lashkar-e-Taiba admits OBL was killed. Taliban admits OBL was
killed. AQAP admits OBL was killed. Muslim Brotherhood admits OBL was
killed. OBL's daughter and wife were there and saw it happen."
This looks like circumstantial evidence to me. Did someone in the
Iranian government have definite knowledge that OBL was alive just
before? And how did Iran independently verify OBL's death? We need
documentation here. Otherwise this means very little.
I think it is necessary to repeat these questions for all in the list
and try determine how many independent confirmations we have. But you
know this of course. I know you are a careful person so I guess you went
through these questions. Tell me if I miss something.
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What kind of hard evidence do they have then?
I don't know if he's dead and was alive right
up until May 1st, or was dead before that and they killed some other
guy, some other Bin Laden. Do you know?
I'm happy to accept that he's really dead now so he can't be used as an excuse anymore to fight the WoT.
Official reports aren't automatically false, but they are usually very hard to confirm, if at all.
It's hard to make out what's what, what's true and what's false. In
fact, often times I get frustrated by it. The only thing I know for sure
is that we're all being f..ked each and everyday, we're being lied to,
misled, and kept in the dark by the govt & MSM amap. Very few things
are certain.
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Source for this is SITE and Rita Katz.
Known to be a biased and unreliable source.
Besides...
Why would Al Qaeda want to help Obama?
Even if the story is true, why would they chime in now, at a time when there is confusion and skepticism by many?
Wouldn't they want to leave Obama twisting in the wind, rather that volunteer a confirmation?
I don't believe this report.
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What is the SITE Intelligence Group
...and why do all of al Qaeda's pivotal messages come filtered through them?
I'd like to know more about them.
Submitted by YT on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 8:34am
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I love the last comment
I love the last comment where YT (aka Cosmos) "wonders" who the SITE Intelligence Group is... here, Cosmos:
1. Who is Producing Fake "Al Qaeda" Videos? | The Blog of the WTC ...
"11 Mar 2010 ... And had to ask myself a) who the hell is this SITE Intelligence Group and b) why would anyone take them seriously, as opposed to ..."
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4. Evan Kohlmann - "Terror Expert" (i.e. Propagandist) For Hire | The ...
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5. Reply - The Blog of the WTC Demolition Site
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the SITE site as it looks right now....
Look, it's like an anti-virus program with different tiered-pricing and features!
and As-Sahab
on some of the videos...
LIHOP offensive continues...
...same old crowd--jimd3000, SnowCrash, and Vullich...
the nature of this article
To me, this reads like so much war mongering and propaganda.
It has already been well established that bin Laden died in 2001. What is the mystery here? Yet we are still to be bombarded by these "pieces" discussing the meaning and ramifications of bin Laden's "recent" death.
Anyone?
Tell us, how did bin laden
Tell us, how did bin laden die in 2001? Was it kidney failure or what? And what sources are you relying on for this information?
Chinese whispers.
if you do your own homework. Not hard. Yes, it was lung complications due to kidney failure. Lots of sources including mainstream ones, like CNN and FOX.
Would that be like.... parroting DRG's mediocre books and quotemining apocryphal MSM reports?
DRG wrote many books, quantity over quality as they say.
Since OBL's death this month, I've decided I'm finished with DRG. We don't need him. Besides, his research assistant, Tod Fletcher, attacked 911blogger as 'infiltrators'. How stupid does it get? Is everybody who refuses to lie about 9/11 to sustain a pet theory an infiltrator?
Did DRG rescind his CIT endorsement yet?
ETA:
The tapes Osama put out (and the video which was found) were real. Hence: not dead.
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Confession_video
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Fake_bin_Laden_audio_tape
(Yes, I'm linking to Mike Williams, the evil debunker, because he nailed this one, and I for one, am embarrassed about that.)
ETA2:
Does this mean no inside job (I don't like the term, but ok) ?
No it does not.
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-10-26/false-dilemma-fallacy
In the video where UBL watches himself on television President Obama appears on the screen a couple of times. This proves that UBL was alive during the time of Obama's presidency (not dead in 2001). You may say that the video isn't obviously authentic, but there are several moments where UBL turns and the profile is definitely him. Maybe if you got the freeze frame you could see it better, but I've checked it a few times and I see no evidence of fraud.
NYCGuy said...."It has already been well established that bin Laden died in 2001"
Yup-and a missile hit the pentagon too!
Why are you telling us this? Shouldn't you be telling his followers?
"May 6, 2011 (AP)
Al-Qaida confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden Friday and vowed revenge, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness" in the first statement by the terror network since its leader was slain in a U.S. commando raid against his Pakistani hideout.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=13543439
... implied in a recent TV interview that "Al-Qaida" as an organizational entity (as portrayed by news services like ABC) does not exist. Now I'm confused.
Perhaps Lt Col Shaffer should be made aware of this since his job with the able danger project was to map out this non existent organization. Some consider him a "terrorism researcher". Others of course claim he's "in on it".
Of the "everything is fake" crowd. The everything is fake crowd believe in fake information. This culture of baseless fakery promotion is the Truth Movement's Achilles Heel.
dozens of other terrorism researchers who disagree. Who to believe? Do your own research. There are thousands and thousands of sources which confirm, directly or indirectly, the existence of Al Qaeda. Which is why reports of Western intelligence agencies and their proxies intermingling and facilitating Al Qaeda are so troubling.
Or would you have us believe the majority of History Commons is fraudulent information? Have you ever read a serious book on Al Qaeda?
"Have you ever read a serious book on Al Qaeda?"
This book, which I have (Valtiot ja terrorismi = States and Terrorism), discusses Al-Qaida at some length:
http://www.adlibris.com/fi/product.aspx?isbn=9524681773&lang=fi
What about the book that says:
"The major shortcoming with any tiered model of al-Qaida, however, is that it overly preferences al-Qaida's high command[...] It is critical, therefore, to think of al-Qaida and similarly minded groups as parts of a very complicated puzzle rather than as a specific organizational entity."
http://books.google.fi/books?id=D_L5iDSTt9EC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=%22Al-Q...
The BBC documentary "Power of Nightmares" says that "Al-Qaida" was *made* an organization by the US authorities who needed to be able to go after specific individuals relying on laws that had been created for protection against criminal organizations like the Mafia. Jamal al Fadl was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Government’s story of Al-qaeda as a *group* or *organization*.
http://polidics.com/cia/how-to-scare-the-shit-out-of-america-and-make-th...
"Jamal al-Fadl was taken on as a key prosecution witness, who along with a number of other sources claimed that Osama bin Laden was the leader of a large international terrorist organization which was called 'al-Qaeda'."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_al-Fadl
Let's not unquestioningly accept the US authorities' rather "convenient" and "non-complicated" view of Al-Qaida.