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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.

 

"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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LIHOP Regime Alive and Well, Still Trying to Cover Up the Truth About 9/11

While no real truther still thinks the alleged identities (remember FBI director Mueller made it clear that they may have been using stolen IDs) of the alleged hijackers (remember there is no evidence of the alleged hijackers hijacking anything on 9/11) are at all relevant to what actually happened (the murder of 2000 people in the explosive demolition of the WTC), the LIHOP shills at 911blogger.com are happy in their echo chamber, supported by the controlled left like Medea Benjamin, fake truther blowhards like Alex Jones, and the so-called Jersey Girls in their attempt to distract the real 9

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Tonight on Masterpiece Theater: 911Blogger

For a while now 911Blogger.com has been straddling the fence dividing LIHOP from the real truth movement, on the one hand making clear that they approve of controlled demolition of the WTC as a linchpin of the 9/11 truth movement and on the other remaining an outlet for fake truthers like Jon Gold and Erik Larson, formerly active members of the apparently defunct Truthaction.

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IS ISIS ISRAEL?

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Just how good was 9/11 for Larry Silverstein?

Before 9/11, Silverstein owned WTC7, worth $861 million (what the insurance paid out on it) on which he owed a regular $400 million mortgage. In addition, 6 weeks before 9/11 he leased the other 6 buildings including the twin towers, for $3.2 billion over 99 years. After 9/11, he ended up with buildings worth $6.2 billion (new WTCs 7, 2, and 3) financed in part by $3.1 billion in low interest tax exempt liberty bonds and $5.3 billion in insurance payments.

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Excellent Book Confirms Official Hijacker Story a Sloppily Crafted Myth

From Amazon:

Hijacking America's Mind on 9/11: Counterfeiting Evidence

by Elias Davidsson

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Who Was John O'Neill?

John O'Neill has been a kind of folk hero among a certain group of people claiming to be truthers at least since the release of the documentary "Who Killed John O'Neill" (WKJO, http://whokilledjohnoneill.com/). The legend goes more or less like this: John O'Neill, frustrated by his warnings about al Qaeda going unheeded, resigns and goes to work, fatefully, as head of security at the WTC a week before 9/11, when he is killed in the "collapse" of one of the towers.

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Will the Real Terrorists Please Stand Up

Here's a nice rundown of all the so-called terrorist plots "thwarted" by the NYPD. We have to ask: if the threat of Islamic terrorism is as great as the mainstream media and fake truthers would have us believe, why must so many cases be manufactured?

http://www.alternet.org/rights/156249/the_nypd_boasts_they_thwarted_14_t....

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Attention: This is a Kosher ZIHOP Site

Posting or linking to content that is, or is intended to overtly or subtly appear anti-semitic will lead to one's account being blocked without appeal.

The owner(s) and associates of wtcdemolition.com condemn every form of racism and intolerance directed at anyone and believe that whatever role Zionists or the State of Israel may have played in the events of 9/11 does not reflect on Jewish people generally because the State of Israel and the Zionist movement are not bona-fide representatives of the world's Jewish people. 

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Forward Article: Discussion of the Dancing Israelis from March 2002

Copyright Forward Newspaper, L.L.C. Mar 15, 2002

Despite angry denials by Israel and its American supporters, reports that Israel was conducting spying activities in the United States may have a grain of truth, the Forward has learned.

However, far from pointing to Israeli spying against U.S. government and military facilities, as reported in Europe last week, the incidents in question appear to represent a case of Israelis in the United States spying on a common enemy, radical Islamic networks suspected of links to Middle East terrorism.

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Nanothermite: Honeypot?

If there is one thing that I currently consider extremely risky to the success of the truth movement, it would have to be any kind of reliance on the seemingly conclusive discovery of nanothermite chips in the WTC dust. It seems to me that too much of the debate that has gone on between "debunkers" and the truth movement has focused on whether or not the red/gray chips reportedly found by truth movement researchers are indeed nanothermite. I have read the paper by Harrit et al.

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Were Planes Really Hijacked by Arab Muslims?

[Bumping this in honor of the LIHOP offensive afoot at 911blogger that includes attacks on David Ray Griffin's character timed to take advantage of his current health issues. -gReT 2/15/11]

Central to the official 9/11 narrative is the allegation that four flights were hijacked by Arab Muslims working for al Qaeda. Little to no real evidence exists to support this claim.

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Dave McGowan's Center for an Informed America: What Happened at the Pentagon?

These posts are intended to mirror the text portions only of McGowan's series on the Pentagon. Visit his site to see the accompanying photographs and LOTS of very interesting analysis of 9/11 and other subjects.

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html

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Who is Lawrence Silverstein?

What kind of man leased the WTC complex 6 weeks before 9/11?

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Truth As Terror

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

"I am prepared to die, but there is no cause for which I am prepared to kill."

"In the attitude of silence the soul finds the path in a clearer light, and what is elusive and deceptive resolves itself into crystal clearness. Our life is a long and arduous quest after Truth."

"There is no path to peace. Peace is the path."

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Fake Truther Charlie Sheen Shows True Colors in New Official 9/11 Propaganda FIlm

I know people are going to say that there's bound to be some truth hidden in this movie, but those people are probably still not convinced that Alex "I'm just a performance artist" Jones is a legitimate truther...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-ju...

July 11, 2017, 12:50 p.m.
Charlie Sheen's 9/11 drama set for September release

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Alleged ISIS Sympathizing Soldier Questioned 9/11

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hawaii-soldier-accused-isis-enl...

Hawaii soldier accused of trying to help ISIS enlisted after 9/11 attacks

BY
Nicole Hensley
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 4:31 AM

A 34-year-old U.S. Army soldier busted in Hawaii for alleged ties to the Islamic State enlisted three months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Sgt. Ikaika Erik Kang was arrested Saturday night in Honolulu, authorities said Monday.

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Broken Wiki - Recovered Text

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911blogger.com
Oft-gazed upon navel of the 9/11 Truth movement; crossroads at which many a multi-car pile-up has taken place.

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Yes, We're Still Here!

As we've said before, invoking the spirit of Mark Twain, reports of the death of the truth movement have been greatly exaggerated. I have to say, having spent the last 10 years discussing 9/11 online, that there has never been this much evidence, judging from online comments, that the truth movement is succeeding. Better still, we have replaced fake truth products like the Loose Change series with fantastic new documentaries like 9/11 The New Pearl Harbor by Massimo Mazzucco, and 9/11 in the Academic Community by Adnan Zuberi.

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A Fitting Coda to the Loose Change Psyop

The Rapid Rise and Fall of Dylan Avery
With his 9/11 conspiracy doc "Loose Change," director Dylan Avery became an Internet sensation and a leader of a movement. Then the film grew into a monster that nearly ruined his life

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