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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.

 

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E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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Who will be blamed for the Marathon Bombings™?

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Before Ricin, there was Anthrax

http://www.salon.com/2002/01/26/assaad/

Fort Detrick's anthrax mystery

Who tried to frame Dr. Ayaad Assaad, a former biowarfare researcher at the Army lab? Was it the same person responsible for last fall's anthrax mail terrorism?
By Laura Rozen

Topics: News

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True Faction (Truthaction.org) is No More?

Their URL leads to a GoDaddy parking page, and their twitter feed has had no action for more than a year. What happened to Cosmos, Albanese, and the rest of the fake truthers there? DId they give up on 9/11 truth? On their "eleventh month of every year" campaign?

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Boston Marathon Bombing: Convenient Scapegoat Watch

Two explosions rock the finish line at the Boston Marathon. The coverage is at once reminiscent of 9/11 and Oklahoma City. We are at the crucial point where we have just been informed by the media that authorities are questioning someone related to the bombings. As in OKC, it is reported that undetonated devices have been found. These, as in OKC, are supposed to be key to identifying the bad guys. Let's see if they are denied as soon as a Ryder truck is found.

No scapegoat yet.

Likely scapegoats: tax protestors? truthers? muslims?

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Did you vote on an ad submission to AE911's Operation Tip the Planet contest?

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"The racism inherent at the heart of the 9-11 conspiracy movement..."

[I was almost surprised to see this ancient canard pop up again on an otherwise not-particularly-interesting Portland Indymedia thread about 9/11. What was most pleasing was the way it was quickly and efficiently dispatched by other users. Portland Indymedia has become a toxic place for discussions of 9/11 --- this thread, ironically, was a breath of fresh air.]

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/04/422707.shtml?discuss

Remember
08.Apr.2013 07:21
Garth

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AE911truth's Ad Contest Open for Voting!

Vote for the best ad here: https://app.wizehive.com/voting/otp

WTCD is endorsing this one, btw... https://app.wizehive.com/voting/view/otp/13054/1185000/0

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Why Didn't the Insurers Challenge the 9/11 Lies?

Saudi Arabia Behind Attacks, Insurers Tell Court: http://www.insuranceinsider.com/-1242713/26

They can't have assumed they would win a case against Saudi Arabia--my guess is they were otherwise compensated (perhaps simply by a rise in premiums after 9/11) and that this is just a way to make mo' money...

After doing a search for the listed companies I found this article that contains some interesting analysis of the effect of 9/11 on the insurers/reinsurers: http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/risk/downloads/archive/arch257.pdf

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Latest Ruling by Alvin Hellerstein, the "9/11 Judge"

Judge: Act of war precludes 9/11 environmental claim

3/20/2013 COMMENTS (0)

By Bernard Vaughan

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A federal judge in New York on Wednesday dismissed a lawsuit over cleanup costs related to the attacks of Sept. 11, saying the attacks were an "act of war." But the judge said the reasoning did not necessarily apply in a bigger case over damages caused by the attacks.

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The Atlantic Pimping New Terror Group as "Taliban's Cousin"

See here: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/02/the-talibans-ne...

And here's a primary source for the author's assurances of this group's responsibility for recent attacks...  Note the reference to Omar Farooq!

http://thebalochhal.com/?p=2008

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Israeli Parents Dress Their Children as Twin Towers for Purim

Kid's Purim Costume Idea: The Burning Twin Towers?

Seven-year-old twins premiere their homemade costumes in Israel

By: Ashley Baylen

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NYT's Bill Keller Explains Why He and His Media Colleagues Lie About 9/11

This is an excerpt from a Keller column in the NYT about Jimmy Savile, the British television icon who is accused of molesting young girls throughout his career. Keller asks how it was possible that while Savile's behavior was an open secret in media circles, no one ever exposed him...

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Cass Sunstein Promoted to University Professorship at Harvard; To Release New Book on Conspiracy Theories

Sunstein a University Professor
Legal scholar recognized for wide-ranging impact beyond field

Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Cass Sunstein, widely regarded as one of the most influential legal scholars of his generation, has been named a University Professor, Harvard’s highest honor for a faculty member.

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More KSM Trial Komedy Kapers

This propaganda does double-duty--goes to eleven, as it were. Not only will the masses who accept the official story be drawn to a fake account of the 9/11 plot that they will mistakenly associate with fact, fake truthers will be able to cream themselves at the mere mention of John O'Neill, the "man who knew it all".

9/11 Trial Officers Explain “Ransacking” of Legal Documents
February 15, 2013, 5:44 pm ET by Arun Rath

Some light was shed yesterday on the apparent “ransacking” of legal materials from defendants in the 9/11 trial.

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From the Department of Fake Truthing and Wishful Thinking: Is the Truth Movement Dead?

A recent post on Portland Indymedia wistfully asks:

"Is the end of the so called "911 truth movement" at hand? Not counting the loons that claim Sandy Hook is a hoax, all that's left is one balding architect pushing his non-profit to pay his bills"

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KSM Komix!

As avid followers of the War on Terror™ know, the most recent shocking development in the trial of the millennium has something to do with the government listening in on the conversations of the accused with their counsel through an extensive set of microphones installed in the courtroom. Given the fact that even for a show trial this case is laughable from start to finish, here is my take--possibly the first installment in a series...


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Parsing the Phillip Marshall "Murder-Suicide"

The death of Phillip Marshall, author of a book laying much of the blame for 9/11 on “Saudi Intelligence” is being considered as a possible “conspiracy” by a local newspaper, not to mention 9/11 websites and bloggers on both sides of the gun rights debate.

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Bulgarian Bus Bomb and Hillary Clinton Assasination

Hi Guys,

Wake up!

Yeah yeah veteranstoday can/is flaky, but just to get up to speed on what is possibly happening, let's forget that for a moment. I think the Zionists are on the move.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/07/18/breakingunconfirmed-sec-clinton-...

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Dennis Kucinich Jumps the Shark, Joins Fox News

If anyone needed further confirmation of his role as controlled opposition...

Fox News hires Dennis Kucinich
Posted by Rachel Weiner on January 16, 2013 at 4:43 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/16/fox-news...

Dennis Kucinich will soon appear on Fox News. (Lisa DeJong – AP)

Dennis Kucinich, former congressman and icon of the anti-war left, has signed up as an analyst for Fox News. He will debut on “The O’Reilly Factor” Thursday night.

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Zionist admits Zionists did 9/11

The piece is from August, actually, but I only came across it right now and didn't see it mentioned anywhere on here, so here goes:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/15/zionist-extremist-chamish-admits...

Interesting development, I think. The author, Barry Chamish, curiously exonerates Netanyahu, but does blame "labor zionists" -- certainly a sign that the usual tight-knittedness within the zionist camp has dissolved significantly, which can only be a good thing!

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