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Malcolm X

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David Griffin's 9/11 Contradictions Ch. 16

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2010-07-26 16:44.

Chapter 16

WHERE DID AUTHORITIES FIND ATTA'S TREASURE TROVE OF INFORMATION?

On the first page of The 9/11 Commission Report, we read:

Tuesday, September 11, 2001.... For those heading to an airport, weather conditions could not have been better.... Among the travelers were Mohamed Atta and Abdul Aziz al-Omari, who arrived at the airport in Portland, Maine.... Atta and Omari boarded a 6:00AM flight from Portland to Boston's Logan International Airport. [1]

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The Different Islamisms... Which Are Real, Which are Fake?

Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2010-07-26 16:03.

a point that seems clear from this text is that "al Qaeda" is a joke, without any real, significant role in shaping Islamist views, presumably because real muslims aren't as easily swayed by their fake propaganda videos as gullible and/or fearful westerners...

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/66468/marc-lynch/veiled-truths

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The Battle for the Movement Rages at 911Blogger

Submitted by gretavo on Sun, 2010-07-25 20:07.

Thanks to user Petr Buben for taking the LIHOP frauds to task with his provocative title! The LIHOP shills are on the run, and no amount of selective moderation can conceal their disingenuous fraud. EDIT: Whoops, once again I mistake a bumped post for a new post--oh well, great to revisit these issues--thanks to Arcterus (the true faction shill) for bumping it...

http://911blogger.com/news/2009-11-11/911-controlled-demolition-movement...

"9/11 Controlled Demolition Movement"?

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Why did Gretavo remove the link to Gilad Atzmon from the right hand column?

Submitted by gretavo on Sun, 2010-07-25 18:52.
In response to a request from the ADL.
48% (15 votes)
In response to death threats from JDL goons.
10% (3 votes)
Because he is anti-semitic and Gilad is Jewish.
0% (0 votes)
Because by appearing at an event with Jim Fetzer he showed himself to have a lot to learn about responsible 9/11 truth advocacy.
42% (13 votes)
Total votes: 31
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From Ed's Radio Blog: Betsy's uncut ABC interview

Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Sun, 2010-07-25 13:05.

http://edwardrynearson.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/betsys-uncut-abc-interview/

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Pentagon child-porn pigs

Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Sun, 2010-07-25 12:54.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/07/23/pentagon_workers_tied_to_child_porn/

 

Pentagon workers tied to child porn

Security agencies were left at risk, investigators say

By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff  |  July 23, 2010

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Wikileaks Co-founder Sees through Assange

Submitted by casseia on Sat, 2010-07-24 17:47.

[Thought I'd mirror this here -- it's well worth reading the whole thing. My personal jury is no longer out on Assange -- it has returned a verdict. Lots of links at the original http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html -- c455]

by Declan McCullagh
NEW YORK--John Young was one of Wikileaks' early founders. Now he's one of the organization's more prominent critics.

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Where's Wally?

Submitted by casseia on Fri, 2010-07-23 04:44.

??

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3D/International

Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2010-07-22 01:46.

This is current info, so no idea how many if any of these people were around during the Pentagon renovation.  That info shouldn't be too hard to find though...  

 

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DMJM Harris

Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2010-07-21 20:37.

Just found this....

In August, STV wound up not buying Sartor's company. Nevertheless, during the time his firm was negotiating with STV Sartor attended an unusual meeting between the PA and STV to discuss the transportation hub - a project the PA predicts will net STV and partners a stunning $302 million.

That works out to $503 per square foot for a 600,000-square-foot transportation hub. In comparison, the architect hired to complete the 2.8 million-square-foot Time Warner Center at Columbus Circle got about $22.50 per square foot, sources said.

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Wikileaks and its Founder Julian Assange are Anti-Truth

Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2010-07-21 14:27.

see also: http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2703 and http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2010/07/julian-assange-of-wikileaks-is...

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NIST lied to cover up the WTC demolition

Submitted by johnscriv on Wed, 2010-07-21 07:19.
NIST, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, was tasked with investigating the destruction of three World Trade Center buildings on 9/11. NIST immediately ruled out the possibility that explosives were involved.

That fact alone should arouse suspicion.

On the basis of this premature preclusion and disregarding NFPA investigative guidelines, NIST neglected to test for explosive residues at the WTC site. When asked why they didn't look for evidence of explosives, a NIST spokesman replied,
"It would be a waste of tax payers money to look for something that isn't there".

How did NIST know there were no explosives involved, if they didn't look?

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Massive censorship attack based on allegations of al Quesadilla activity

Submitted by casseia on Tue, 2010-07-20 23:20.

The blogging site blogetery.com had the plug yanked on its server by webhost BurstNET (burst.net) on July 9, 2010, immediately propelling more than 70,000 blogs (according to blogetery) into the cyber void. Initial speculation was that this was an anti-piracy effort, but a statement from BurstNET confirms the alternative rumor, that this was an "anti-terrorist" plug-yanking.

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Do you think there were explosives planted in the Pentagon before 9/11?

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2010-07-20 20:13.
Yes.
71% (20 votes)
No.
29% (8 votes)
Total votes: 28
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WTCD Investigation: The Pentagon Renovation Project

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2010-07-20 18:59.

It's becoming more clear as time passes that the planes on 9/11 were secondary to the destruction they are alleged to have been solely responsible for. Since we at WTCD know very well that in the case of the World Trade Center the destruction was the result of pre-planted explosives, it stands to reason that we should consider that the same might be true for the Pentagon.

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Judge Hellerstein Rules to Hide Evidence of 9/11 "Suspects"

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2010-07-20 17:08.

NYC judge rejects release of CIA materials to ACLU

The Associated Press
Thursday, July 15, 2010; 8:08 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR201007...

NEW YORK -- A federal judge on Thursday refused to force the public release of CIA methods relating to Sept. 11 detainees who were interrogated harshly, saying the judiciary's authority is limited when national security is at stake.

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Where Cindy Sheehan Stands On 9/11 Truth

Submitted by Keenan on Sat, 2010-07-17 15:16.


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WOW! Informed, Reasoned Analysis of the CIT/Pentagon Debate - Thanks to Robin Hordon

Submitted by Keenan on Sat, 2010-07-17 14:11.

Robin Hordon, an X air traffic controller who worked at ZBW [Boston ARTCC] and a commercial pilot with 1600 hours of flight time, inserts some desperately needed informed, reasonable, and objective analysis into the shrill debate over CIT/Pentagon Issue over at 911Blogger.

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Open Source Jihad... for realz?

Submitted by casseia on Sat, 2010-07-17 01:07.

Welcome to the 21st Century, al Quesadilla in the Arabian Peninsula! Finally you can promulgate your Islamofascist agenda cheaply and efficiently, without printing or mailing costs, thanks to the magic of the Adobe PDF format and teh internets!

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The Conception of the Doctrine of the War on Terror

Submitted by gretavo on Fri, 2010-07-16 22:16.

Note: This article is reprinted here as a source to help understand the role played by Benjamin Netanyahu in developing the doctrine of the war on terror that became U.S. policy after 9/11. We do not agree with the source of this article that the 9/11 attacks were actually perpetrated by Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda as a legitimate means of resisting oppression in the middle east.

From: http://www.shamsali.org/taj/origwat.html

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