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E. Martin Schotz
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Malcolm X
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Mikhail Bakunin
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Emily Dickinson
Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2007-10-29 18:31.
Is 9-11 Judge Hellerstein Working for Israel?
Posted By: ChristopherBollyn <Send E-Mail>
Date: Tuesday, 23 October 2007, 1:28 p.m. In Response To: NOW ONLINE - "The Planes of 9-11" (ChristopherBollyn)
Submitted by gretavo on Mon, 2007-10-29 14:01.
Submitted by gretavo on Sat, 2007-10-27 11:17.
Submitted by gretavo on Sat, 2007-10-27 11:03.
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The big number on the left is the number of hits from the IP address listed that the site received in the last three days... for scale, the third biggest number of hits was only 130.
I suspect that these IP addresses have been spoofed, i.e. we are supposed to believe the attack is coming from them (both in the Washington DC area, hmmm!) as if we didn't know that real "web terrists" cover their identity with the simple method of spoofing someone else's IP. And choosing an IP to spoof that will make the person all paranoid and stuff.
Submitted by gretavo on Sat, 2007-10-27 10:51.
Copied this in its entirety from Crimes of the State Blog by Johndoraemi.... worth reading because I think it captures the essence of the perps' next strategy--frame truthers as "terrorists" who are "like McVeigh"... conveniently enough in time for a new "President" Clinton to have a "right wing" bogeyman to "defend America" from... -GRET
Corporate Disobedience
A Shrill Hysteria in the Fascist Press
Crimes of the State Blog
It's not civil disobedience, but corporate disobedience -- upsetting the corporate control paradigm -- that just plain flips out the media oligarchs and their loyal proxies.
Submitted by Big_D on Fri, 2007-10-26 22:37.
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2007-10-25 17:03.
"In the Ambrose case, Judge Hellerstein ruled that the jury would not be allowed to see photographs of at least one of the hijackers and Dr. Ambrose separately passing through a security checkpoint at Dulles International Airport, where the flight originated.
Judge Hellerstein also said he found a wide array of other evidence inadmissible, including the testimony of people who received phone calls from loved ones aboard Flight 77 before it crashed; the testimony of a burn victim inside the Pentagon; testimony from a victim’s daughter about a note from the victim to her husband that was found at the crash site; and photographs of body parts."
Don't want these things in the public record, eh, Judge Silver--er... Hellerstein??
See the New York Times article that so helpfully lets everyone know of the existence of this "evidence" that no one is allowed to see!
Submitted by Chris on Thu, 2007-10-25 15:47.
 ($100 says parrots over at blogger will say they should have been more "polite" with Clinton. I love these confrontations.)
Former President Bill Clinton predicted Tuesday that his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, is likely to have a more difficult time winning the Democratic presidential nomination than she would the general election.
"I wouldn't be surprised if the primary is tougher than the general," the former president said at a Minneapolis fundraiser for his wife's campaign, arguing that she's more immune to attacks from Republicans because "they don't have anything new to say about her."
Because of the current political climate, Clinton said Democrats are in prime position to reclaim the presidency.
Submitted by casseia on Wed, 2007-10-24 17:25.
User Danse posted this over at the Truthaction forum...Â
Submitted by casseia on Wed, 2007-10-24 17:20.
washingtonpost.com
No Joke
Eight-time presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche may be a
punchline on 'The Simpsons,' but his organization -- and the effect it
has on young recruits -- is dead serious
By April Witt
Sunday, October 24, 2004; Page W12
The desperation in her son's voice jolted Erica Duggan fully awake.
"Mum, I'm in big trouble," Jeremiah, a 22-year-old college student,
said into the phone quietly, as though trying not to be overheard.
Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Wed, 2007-10-24 12:14.
Hey, Gretavo! i thought of you at Harvard!Â
this past weekend, my husband and i attended the Meliora parents' weekend at University of Rochester. our daughter is a freshman.
Colin Powell was the keynote speaker at 11 a.m. Needless to say we were not planning to attend.
while waiting for young spud  to "rise and shine", and meet us at the campus center commons for coffee saturday morning, i happened to hear chanting coming from across the way in front of where CP was about to speak.  About 20 folks with signs. As I excitedly ran over to check it out, i could hear "Let him speak, but no degree!!!" "No more war!!!" "No more Lies!!" I jumped right in (holding my UR blue-and-yellow striped umbrella, parent's ID tag around my neck), thinking, well if daughter happens to walk by she won't be surprised! her mom does this kind of thing all the time.
Submitted by juandelacruz on Mon, 2007-10-22 15:56.
This entry is meant to inform people in or from the Philippines that false flag operations are not so rare. It is hard to fathom sometimes that your own government can kill innocent civilians in order to foist propaganda - a false narrative - in order to justify an action which would otherwise have been unpopular or transparently self serving.
On Friday, October 19, 2007, a very powerful blast destroyed part of the Glorieta shopping mall in the Makati central business district. 11 people died and more than a hundred were injured. Glorieta is a popular mall which I frequent and has been visited at least once by most everyone who lives in the national capital region.
Submitted by Lazlo Toth on Sun, 2007-10-21 03:58.
WIRED for TERROR:
On the Trail of the “Men†Who Brought Down the Towers
PART TWO B: The “Communist Manifesto†of Zionism,
Theodor Herzl’s “Der Judenstaatâ€â€¨vs.
The Sages and Guardians of the City
Dr. Lazlo Toth
October 20, 2007
INTRODUCTION
Rabbi Hirsch of Jerusalem, spiritual leader of the orthodox Neturei Karta (Aramaic for “Guardians of the Cityâ€), a Jewish community with roughly 100,000 members worldwide, was quoted in an article published in The Washington Post of October 3, 1978 as saying:
Submitted by larry horse on Sat, 2007-10-20 17:11.
Submitted by Lazlo Toth on Fri, 2007-10-19 15:13.
“See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.â€
– George Dubya Busch on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 at the Athena Performing Arts Center at Greece Athena Middle and High School in Rochester, NY.
“It’s no great secret why the Jewish agencies continue to trumpet support for the discredited policies of this failed administration. They see defense of Israel as their number-one goal, trumping all other items on the agenda. That single-mindedness binds them ever closer to a White House that has made combating Islamic terrorism its signature campaign. The campaign's effects on the world have been catastrophic. But that is no concern of the Jewish agencies.â€
– December 8, 2006 statement by J.J. Goldberg, editor of Forward (the leading Jewish Weekly in the United States).
Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Wed, 2007-10-17 15:45.
 received this today in an email...check out the "facilitators" at the "places of higher learning" listed below.
This is despicable! We need to have counter-demonstrations at these conferences!!!
Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Mon, 2007-10-15 19:43.
http://webglobe.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/973/
For close to two years leading up to 9/11/01, i had noticed,  and had commented on, the unusual increased amount of con-trails/jet trails high up in the heavens. I would notice them while driving on highways in the northeast, especially. Â
 Anyone else happen to notice this phenomenon? I really thought it was ominous.
The two years of Able Danger/Able Warrior military exercises referred to in this vid have confirmed my suspicions from way back then that something was up ...
Submitted by Annoymouse on Sun, 2007-10-14 05:22.
No, it's a complete waste of time. 58% (11 votes) Yes, redundancy and decentralization improve upon the ability to network with out hierarchical limitations on subject matter. 26% (5 votes) No opinion. 16% (3 votes) Total votes: 19
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