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For all its problems with the insincere among its ranks, the real truth movement is the one peopled by the vast, honest majority who believe the events of 9/11 must be subjected to the closest scrutiny possible if we are to learn from this dark chapter in world history. This site is for every real "truther" out there.

 

"If telling the truth marginalizes you, then that is the place to be. After all, if enough people are willing to be marginalized, then before you know it, society has developed a different center. This is the politics of truth."

E. Martin Schotz


"I've had enough of someone else's propaganda... I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."

Malcolm X

"I am a passionate seeker after Truth and a not less passionate enemy of the malignant fictions used by the "Party of Order", the official representatives of all turpitudes, religious, metaphysical, political, judicial, economic, and social, present and past, to brutalise and enslave the world; I am a fanatical lover of Liberty; considering it as the only medium in which can develop intelligence, dignity, and the happiness of man..."

Mikhail Bakunin

"Tell all the Truth but tell it slant-/Success in Circuit lies/Too bright for our infirm Delight/The Truth's superb surprise/As Lightning to the Children eased/With explanation kind/The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind-"

Emily Dickinson

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Truth 2.0.1

New Hampshire is acting out again, initiating something that sounds like NYCCAN. That's fine and it gets good coverage here http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2010/01/30/news/local/free/id_388463....

What perplexes me, however, is heretofore uncontemplated interpretation of events put forward by former Keene mayor and "Vote for Answers NH" supporter Michael Blastos...

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Dawn Vignola's Account vs. Erik Larson's Methods by CIT

Craig Ranke has written an extensive rebuttal to the piece Erik Larson wrote a couple weeks ago.  Craig's rebuttal is entitled Dawn Vignola's Account vs. Erik Larson's Methods by CIT.  I'll let readers go to the link to read the whole thing.  Here are my own thoughts and highlights:

Larson's essay began with the following:

gretavo's picture

A hilarious Alex Jones spoof site...

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Gee, thanks Amazon!

Dear Amazon.com Customer,

As someone who has purchased or rated The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Exposé by David Ray Griffin, you might like to know that Voodoo Histories: The Role of the Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History will be released on February 4, 2010.  You can pre-order yours at a savings of $9.16 by following the link below.

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Who is typically most credible?

The hard-core pseudonymous poster with one handle (e.g. Arabesque)
0% (0 votes)
The soft-core pseudonymous poster, same handle since the mid-90s, real name pretty transparent (e.g. casseia)
31% (4 votes)
The "history of sockpuppet infestation" poster (e.g. YT/cosmos)
0% (0 votes)
The "one handle per site, real name widely known" poster (Adam Syed, Erik Larson)
0% (0 votes)
The Real Name™ poster (e.g. Jon Gold)
0% (0 votes)
The Real Name™ poster who also posts anonymously sometimes, in order to "teach the movement a lesson" (e.g. [redacted])
8% (1 vote)
Other
62% (8 votes)
Total votes: 13
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Lynn Margulis in Rock Creek Free Press

in honor of Casseia's 3 year anniversary as a WTCD Islander/co-Admin, an article by another intelligent woman...

Two Hit, Three Down - The Biggest Lie

National Academy of Science member and Distinguished Professor endorses
David Ray Griffin’s work exposing the truth of 9/11

By Lynn Margulis

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Muslim Hijacker narrative takes another hit, AA77 cockpit doors stayed shut

I think the whole flight data recording was faked anyway, but they did a bad job of it so some details are not consistent. This is one of them. (2 month old news, yes I know)

9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE
FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT

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Clapping for Tinkerbell

"It is reminiscent of the scene from Peter Pan (by Scottish novelist and playwright J. M. Barrie [1860-1937]) when the faerie, Tinkerbell, swallows poison intended for Peter. Peter then gets the audience to demonstrate its belief in faeries by clapping in order to restore her to life." -John Weir

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Is the Movement Divided and Disorganised? :Reply to LW Point No.1

LW:
While I agree that the truth movement is more disorganized than I would like I don’t think it is as nearly as divided as some people portray it to be. The single most divisive issue within the movement stems from all the unfortunate speculation about what happened at the Pentagon.

AA:
I don’t know if you happened to see my article here
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2583
In it I suggest that there is a widely accepted model for change
Change=Diversity X Selection X Amplification

Equally for the purposes of this point we could use the adage “Divide and conquer”

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"Defamation" (2009) - Yoav Shamir

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=7208
(Yes, the site has objectionable material. If you can find another link go ahead and change it.)

A review by Gilad Atzmon

"The film is an astonishing exposure of the morbid conditions that entangle contemporary Jewish secular identity. It explores and ridicules the current notion of anti-Semitism and the lobbies that are engaged in disseminating such a fear. It also exposes those Jewish ethnic campaigners who, for some reason, insist on shaping their identity around the phantasmic idea of being ‘racially’ chased, defamed or hated.

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Rupert Murdoch's WSJ Set to Revive "Arab Muslims Sent Anthrax" Meme

The user at 911blogger who posted this seems oblivious to the true implications--maybe he didn't read the article's comments section?

Wall Street Journal: The Anthrax Attacks Remain Unsolved The FBI disproved its main theory about how the spores were weaponized.

From the Wall Street Journal, no less, comes the following article:

The Anthrax Attacks Remain Unsolved

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and from Newsweek no less, a fess up on neocons

http://www.newsweek.com/id/232053/page/1

"...Only after September 11 did Bush really turn to them, they say, and then only because they offered the best explanation for what had just happened and the clearest blueprint for what to do about it. "

too long to cut and paste

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Israel hopes to colonize parts of Iraq as "Greater Israel"

Israel hopes to colonize parts of Iraq as ‘Greater Israel’

July 25th, 2009 2:44 AM   Print

Wayne Madsen

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Cindy Sheehan: "there's many things in the 9/11 truth movement that just sound batshit crazy"

Like what, Cindy? Why can't you just be up front with the people you are asking to support you and say exactly what you think? Why dance around the issue and suggest self-censorship for the sake of "unity"? So not impressed at this point...

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Dawn Vignola’s Account vs. CIT’s Methods by Erik Larson

From their apartment, Dawn Vignola and her roommate Hugh ‘Tim’
Timmerman saw American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, September 11, 2001.
Shortly afterward, they gave witness accounts to local and national TV
media. In 2007, they were interviewed by Citizen Investigation Team
(CIT), who attempted to discredit their testimony. I interviewed Dawn
and her husband, Dan Ferrigno, January 5, 2010 at that same apartment
and found them credible; they talked openly with me, their accounts
have not changed since they were first offered, and I saw for myself

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Conspiracies and Confabulation by Kevin Ryan

put on your psych hats, nonconfabulators and confabulators alike!

 

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/86959

"......

Clinical confabulator

Sociopath

Self-deceived person without tension

Normal confabulator

Neutral normal person

Self-deceived person with tension

Lying person

Obsessive-compulsive person

Clinical OCD sufferer

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Criminal State: A Closer Look at Israel's Role in Terrorism by Jeff Gates

I hope this is not a repost, I will remove this post if someone can give a link to to an earlier reference. I could not find it using our search function.

Anyway, if this is your first time to see it, its a great video linking Israel to 9-11.

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Carl Cameron on Hidden Video - Sincere or Something Else?

Fascinating video I somehow missed when it came out...


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Treason In America - March 6 & 7, 2010

Treason In America - Mach (sic) 6 & 7, 2010

Saturday, March 6, 2010 - 9am -6pm
Sunday, March 7, 2010 - 10am- 5pm

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