RT Causing Waves

Hey everyone, it's been an amazing 24 hours for truth. Yesterday RT gave out probably about 200 info cards in 3 hours in Harvard Square. Again it is worth stressing the sheer diversity of types of people who took cards, and also who stopped to chat.
Today during his lunch hour RT crashed a pro-Palestinian rally organized by his former associates in the controlled left. In vain they asked RT to please stop telling the truth about 9/11 in front of their rally. It was a fascinating experience, with half the people participating in the rally sympathetic with RT's cause and the other half (the Zionist controllers of the pro-Palestinian movement here) calling him an anti-semite, telling him to leave their rally, etc.
Of course it was not very nice of RT to disrupt their vigil, but then again it was not very nice of the controlled left volunteers (mainly foreign lefty types) to lie to RT's face back in the antiwar days, with graduate students in physics telling him that the towers were not demolished with explosives... ha!
It was truly a watershed moment--the 9/11 truth mojo at Harvard is rapidly picking up steam and it is only a matter of time before word of mouth joins RT in his efforts and the dam finally breaks. And when dams like this break at a place like Harvard, the world pays attention.
See you at the victory ball!
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super delegate
Not to be an smart ass RT, but I was wondering if you could put something together like Gage does in his speeches with a laptop and go over the facts about 911.
When you hand out those cards put a date on it were you can hold a information meeting about who ,what,and why. and if you organize enough people maybe Boston can become a super delegate when Diane has her fake ass new 911 investigation.
SUPER UPDATE - word on the street at Harvard...
A student stopped to talk to me just now and told me that he was at a meeting of [some student group I didn't quite catch] and said that they spent 2 hours at their last meeting talking about "the 9/11 conspiracy". He said that there were many freshmen who were incredulous that so many seniors, who he said "they look up to" were saying that it was a controlled demolition. I did not pester him for details or anything else, lest he feel pressured.
Folks, this is BIG. This is direct confirmation that our efforts, both nationally and locally are paying off. There's no going back once the genie is out, and guess what? It's out.
300!!!! my lawd
propalestinian-rally 911 gaters? excellent sharing, Gre.
here's what's happening at the end of March in my hometown, and we'll just see who shows up. thinkin about inviting out-of-state WeAreChangers (none in NJ thus far)  down to confront Frelinghuysen ..or maybe we can handle it on our own.
 http://www.pennlive.com/expresstimes/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-7/1204520761242550.xml&coll=2#continue
this is my gazebo, our gazebo,,,,,,where we stood for hundreds of hallowed-ground candle-light vigils and antiwar rallies!!! dammit.Â
my husband and i sponsored open mikes for kids. Eric Symmonds was one of them...he used to be a great budding blues guitar player before he joined ranks. recruiter. how sad.
any thoughts for signs?Â
aside from
IMMORAL, ILLEGAL, EVIL WAR! END IT NOW!
SUPPORT THE TROOPS! NO MORE NJ NATL GUARD TO GO!
NO TROOPS FOR TREASON!
BLA BLA
today's liar
Was a lady who stopped and asked me for info cards. She pointed to building seven and in a vaguely euro/mediterranean accent (nudge nudge) said something to the effect of: "Listen to me, there is no scientific data on such an occurrence because it has never happened before." To which I replied "What do you mean? This has happened hundreds of times--every time a building is demolished." I had interrupted her so she told me "Shut up and listen..." at which point I said "no, sorry I'm done listening to you."
Funny how most people who try to convince me I'm wrong have that same nice euro/mediterranean accent, eh? Not all tho--one young lady stopped to tell me in a standard American accent that she did not want information, just to tell me that if she WAS looking for information, she would be reluctant to take it from someone who was smoking a cigarette. Gotta love this place!
because we love you
quit smoking dude!
Hey, I smoke, too.
It's a pet theory of mine that it somehow makes people immune to propaganda, which is why government regulation is so on the rise.
Or maybe I just don't want to admit I'm terribly addicted.
solidarity
thanks man. yeah i'm also hopelessly addicted to nicotine but i also happen to enjoy inhaling smoke from burning bundles of rolled up shredded leaves--so sue me!
what bugs me is how we are singled out from all other people with unhealthy habits (red meat, big macs, vegetarianism, sexual abstinence, etc.) for taxation and persecution. and I really hate all those people who act like we're stabbing them in the heart by smoking near them when their cars spew more (odorless and colorless) toxic soup into the atmosphere than I could ever produce from my little daily pile of dry leaves. Compared to their daily gallons of gasoline I really think mine is the lesser of the evils.
You're right.
See my theory above :-)
vegetarianism
hey i take exception with you calling vegetarianism unhealthy!
I think if you look at honest scientific studies you will find quite the contrary.
I used to smoke cigarettes - do you know what's in those things?
There's more ways than one to get your nicotine.Â
touché
tahoo-ay!
oooh, you smoke?!
yeah, i'm a "tipper"
these stories would be hilarious if it weren't for the serious nature of the
subject. keep sharing.
Regarding Euro-Medi accents
Petros, who is an extremely proficient speaker of English, btw, has quite a mellifluous one -- sometimes mistaken for *that* kind. Nonetheless, very interesting point taken.
But basically, that's the Diane from NYC line, in part -- we don't know enough about the collapses of the Towers because full scale models would be required in order to make any conclusions, and 7 had such bizarre architecture that it's just astounding it didn't collapse one day from a truck going by.
Now you know about the Zionist controllers of
Now you know about the Zionist controllers of the “Pro-Palestinian†Conversation.
“Please RT stop mentioning the number 9 and the number 11 at our rally†Now you know too, and it is truly an experience of weird awakening, isn’t Gretavo? And this parallels exactly what another WTCD-TV correspondent found out up north in a similar experience of WTF!?. See story at:
http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/768
Thank you my friend for your good work and spirit, and hello to all here as I come up for air before heading back into the final stage of the conference paper/grading season, etc. type of insanity. I pray every day. Truth and justice will win out. Call me naive? I don’t fuckin’ care.
Ciao,
Lazlo
i remember that story
Laz. thanks for communicating when you can. please stay connected
"Idealists are foolish enough to throw caution to the winds.
They have advanced mankind and have enriched the world."
--Emma Goldman
Emma makes me proud to be a human being. And you guys do, too <3
OT - Jon Gold posts something good for a change
http://www.911blogger.com/node/14229
Kudos to him for posting this letter which is unlike a lot of what he has promoted in the past... wtc7, no plane at the pentagon or in PA... excellent letter, thanks for sharing it, Jon.
Emma was a character! so brave and convicted.
i just recently saw a film from the 70s about Anarchism in America...very good. live footage of her and her budds.
reading "Living My Life" Vols I and II was one of the best things i ever did for myself.Â
be sure to check out today's Harvard Crimson
Because the shit is officialy and irretrievably on its way to the fan...
Israel’s New Reality?
More accurately: Israel’s Newly Manufactured Reality
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=522363
"Shira Kaplan ’08 is a government concentrator at Kirkland House. She is currently completing her thesis on Iran’s crisis behavior in the post-revolutionary era. She served in the Israeli Defense Forces for two years before coming to Harvard."
yup.
Someone somewhere reasoned at some point that if you brought a bunch of these Israeli veterans to Harvard they would be able to show American students how "cool" compulsory military service in support of a rogue regime can be, perhaps as a prelude to some kind of compulsory national service for American kids. One factor that shouldn't be overlooked is that because the Israeli students spend two years in the military before going to college, they are significantly older than their peers (i.e. the other freshmen). This no doubt is bound to impress the younger kids that they will be sharing close living quarters with.
They also reasoned that the Israelis' physical presence on campus would deter people from speaking out for fear of offending or otherwise disrupting the balance of what is considered acceptable discourse. All of this is designed to stack the cards against the truth, both about the situation in occupied Palestine (aka Israel) AND 9/11.
Just this morning I had to explain to an older Jewish woman who had previously voiced her approval of my sign why I had added the "it wasn't Bush or the US Gov't" and American flag to my sign. She said she preferred it the other way, and I suggested that if she didn't like the way I represented the cause of truth that maybe she could make her own sign to stand outside every day with.
Hopefully these folks will understand the subtext of my words, because if it gets to the point where I have to spell it out they will have failed my honesty test and yet another opportunity to rise to the occasion will have been discarded, and I'm starting to run out of olive branches.
-gret
one summer a long long time ago
way back in the 80s, I worked at an odd job with a crew of about 10 people, mostly college students (myself at the time included) and an Israeli couple about 5 years our senior who we quickly resented for trying to take control of the situation (the boss was not there 95% of the time). By the end of the project, we had self-segregated and referred to the couple who tried to boss us around as "Mom and Dad" (& not in an endearing way)
That was long before I had any prejudices about zionists (Israel is on our side, I thought) and this was just a reaction on the individual level (we just didn't like their bossy know-it-all attitude). maybe I've always been a bit of an anti-authoritarian rebel compared to the average, but I hope today's college students would have a similar reaction to such "follow-me, do as i say, i'm smarter because I'm older and have military experience" tactics.
SPLAT!
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gretavo —Today 07:49 AM with 1 point
I accept the invitation and would like to begin a dialogue on the need for Jewish students at Harvard to re-examine the events of september 11, 2001, in particular the evidence that the twin towers and WTC building 7 were demolished with explosives. Because the insurance beneficiary and controller of all three properties at the time was a Jewish real estate tycoon with political ties to the right wing in Israel, it is imperative that the Jewish community understand the issues involved regardless of how uncomfortable it may be. The reason of course is that while it would be truly reprehensible to suggest that "the Jews did 9/11" (just as it is to say "the Arabs and/or the Muslims did 9/11",) the sad reality is that there do seem to have been some participants in the 9/11 crimes (the real ones, not the Islamofascist al Qaeda myth) who were Jewish Zionists.
By dismissing this reality without a serious consideration of the facts, the impression may well be gotten, rightly or not, that Jewish people have trouble acknowledging wrongdoing by other Jewish people, especially when support of the state of Israel is concerned. The Jewish community needs to think long and hard about the wisdom of pledging unconditional allegiance to an imperfect political entity (Israel) that is no more holy and just as capable of malice as any other nation including the United States, which as Americans we are morally bound to denounce when its politicians' corruption leads it astray.
I fully expect numerous visceral and vitriolic reactions to this comment--I would just encourage anyone considering making them to consider what it will mean if you are wrong, and to be sure to familiarize yourself with the issues before you stake too much on an untenable position that will not be in the interest of the Jewish community.
katzp339 —36 minutes ago with 1 point
(Full disclosure: I'm on the ed board and one of the co-chairs of PJA.) Comments such as gretavo's one above are, I think, incredibly counterproductive. Jewish people certainly have a difficult time acknowledging such absolutely fabricated and obviously anti-Semitic claims of wrongdoing by Jews as "greedy, rich Zionist (as if it's a bad word) Jews had a hand in September 11," and that's a good thing. Equating a legitimate attempt to complicate discussions about Israel and the Occupied Territories by considering the human costs of occupation to Israeli society and ridiculous September 11 conspiracy theories will only makes honest and open discussion--something so critical at the present moment--more difficult, and I'm at a loss to understand how accepting such an idea as you've presented above could ever be in the interest of the Jewish (or any other) community.
gretavo —2 seconds ago with 1 point
I'm sorry but it is in fact comments such as yours that are ignorant and counter-productive. The fact that the WTC was demolished with explosives and not as a result of the plane impacts and resulting fires should not be controversial, as it is demonstrably true (see for instance the website of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth at ae911truth.org.)
What you are doing by accusing me of anti-semitism is going to utterly discredit you when people become aware of the facts surrounding the destruction of the WTC. Moreover by discouraging your Jewish peers from taking this issue seriously you are doing them a grave disservice. As more people learn the truth, they will wonder why there are so many Jewish people who refuse to accept it. There is then the very real danger that genuine haters will seize on this peculiar fact to support their claims of "evil conspiring Jews".
To act as if people could only ever suspect someone who happens to be Jewish of criminal wrongdoing out of hatred for Jews is akin to an African American claiming that those who reject the decision of the jury that found OJ Simpson not guilty of the murder of his wife and Ron Goldman are racists who only suspect OJ because he is black. It is an exact parallel whether you are mature enough to acknowledge it or not.
pwned.
and yes, I like 1337speak. Judge me if you must, but don't expect me to care.
Crimson has censored my comment but not the misleading response
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=522362
Unbelievable, especially given the bogus quote implying that I said something that I did not. Such integrity!
careful not to choke on the hypocrisy...
This is from the op-ed from which my comments were disappeared:
Perhaps because the Crimson editors will do that for them?
Exactly.
Now watch the hypocrites compete for the big prize: Hypocrisy internationalized, courtesy of the NYT. Some peoples' integrity is even cheaper than other peoples' bodily orifices. Ain't no runnin' from...Karma ain't no runnin'.
Completely and excellently expressed, G
You were certainly in the writing truth-speak groove there. I saved the text to HD.
The Harvard Crimson, as ever, standing for conformity in the well-managed world of “officially sanctioned†thought and perception. See what Dershowitz thinks about such a discussion. I could prepare a paper for the conference.
BTW I saw that Tahooey had managed to pop up your new sign over at the old apt. 911B. They didn’t seem to get the subtlety of the whole message at all. They thought you were trying to get Bush and Cheney off the hook or something. Learning your way through the fog is a step-by-step process. I think it was St. Francis who said you should never dis the younger kids who are behind you in school, for one day they will be where you are, and will know what you know if they just keep on learning.
thanks lazlo
thank you very much indeed. you answered in a way a question that popped into my head a few minutes ago, which is: where are the adults in all of this?
Censored again!
Once again you have deleted my original comment and left up the reply that pretends I said something I did not. Again I post the original comment. Since my (real, btw) name is being associated with slurs that I did not make I will once again request that you clarify your reasons for this blatantly misleading and defamatory decision to censor. Because I am a Harvard alumnus and staff member of ten years I consider this an unacceptable situation. Since the editors here do not seem to be concerned about misrepresenting my words, I see no recourse but to take up this matter within official channels at the University. Please expect a formal complaint to be lodged. Here again for the sake of disambiguity is my original comment:
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Matt —Yesterday 06:27 PM with 1 point
The reason people keep deleting your posts [gretavo] is because most of your posts promote objectively false claims about 9/11, and sometimes even implicate Jews in the conspiracy. (Sure, not *all* Jews are bad. I hear you. You're not anti-Semitic. I mean, who would admit to being an anti-Semite after all?) There are scores of people today who are convinced of other demonstrably false claims (UFO abductions, holocaust denial, etc.), and would likewise marshal substantial "evidence" to support their similarly ridiculous theses.
Well, there's no changing your mind, of course. Nobody can change the mind of a zealot. And, be honest, you know full well that there is no evidence in the world that could change your mind.
But Harvard's Crimson newspaper, the private publication of a prestigious research university, has absolutely no obligation to provide a platform for your insidious garbage. And I would encourage the moderator to block you from further posts that have anything to do with 9/11 conspiracy mongering. If you want to comment on the actual article above, then I hope no one stops you.
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Use of your real name + "greedy, rich Zionist (as if it's a bad word) Jews had a hand in September 11," (giving every appearance of being a direct quote) = legal liability, in my unqualified and indignant opinion. This would actually be a situation in which forensic discourse analysis could be usefully employed in a court setting. In practical terms, if the Crimson is going to censor you in this way, they had better drink ALL the Orwellian kool-aid and make every post related to your post disappear along with yours.
Damn it...
I was unwinding and thinking about crawling into bed (Urban dictionary word of the day: "sleep slut" = my middle name) and now I'm just pissed off. Is Mr. Dude implying
a)that Larry S did not own 7 and lease the Towers
b)that he is not Jewish
c)that he is not a Zionist
d)that he does not have ties to Likudniks
He is free to equate these statements of fact with tales of alien abduction, but it makes HIM sound like the crazy person. He is not free to make up false-flag Jooo-hater sentences, put them in quotation marks, and thus implicitly attribute them to you.
Edit: I realize that more than one Mr. Dude is involved in this scenario.
oh cass...
i love when you become indignant in my defense [fluttering eyelashes]
Indeed I have every intention of taking this up with the administrations of both the Crimson and Harvard, and will keep you on retainer (a billion deception dollars enough? don't worry, Tahooey, I am a deception dollar multibillionaire) as an expert witness.
I have just also posted a few selected reviews of DRG's Debunking 9/11 Debunking. 2 of them are by Jewish people, Howard Zinn and Paul Craig Roberts (if Bill Christison is Jewish then it's 3 out of 3 but I don't know that)
Let's see what they have to say to that, or if they simply disappear this one too!
-gret
You were the victim of a classic Zionist editing technique, G.
They have been pulling this one since the early 20th century. It is called “Cut the first part of the story, and just show the second part.†For example, in all the Holocaust movies you are only shown the German nationalists’ reaction to the first part of the story, which is left out on purpose. The first part of the story is where Chaim Weizmann, Lord Rothschild and friends at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference encourage the post-war punishing of the Germans by imposing on them un-payable, crippling, massive war reparations, thereby screwing the German economy into a deep depression after WWI. The Germans then find out about the Balfour Declaration and the unnecessary prolongation of the war. This is all topped off in 1933, of course, by European and American newspaper headlines proclaiming World Jewry’s official declaration of war on Germany and its people, accompanied by calls for a global boycott on German exports. This first part of the story naturally is cut and falls upon the floor of the Zionist editing suite, only to be picked up by us later on down the road. In time all things are discovered.
I do completely support your taking these examples of neo-Fascist journalism and manipulative, defamatory propaganda techniques to the administration at Harvard. The intelligentsia needs to strap some on and tell the enemies of American free speech to FUCK OFF! What has happened to America (and I refer here to North America)? Head Out of Ass Now! If America goes, that’s it, Jack. Game Over. It is time for everybody, coast to coast, at every part of the society, to say No More to this constant drip, drip, drip of ever-evolving, slick modern Fascism. If they take away the First Amendment and fix the elections with Diebold machines and the helpful cooperation of well-paid, highly compromised media whores and politicians, the only thing you have left is the Second, and technologically speaking right now that is not a seriously viable solution. Nonetheless, they take our countries away little by little, piece by piece, step by step. It doesn’t happen all at once, and it’s always marketed a little differently each time. The great American philosopher George Santayana (who taught at Harvard I might add) was right about history constantly repeating itself and people not knowin’ shit about it. “Of course they’re not Nazis, the armbands are totally different.â€
The Matt guy who responded to you seems to have made it to college, yet still retains the heavy media-cultural brainwashing and conditioning that, in an ideal world, the university should be able to free him from, or at least make him question. By senior year perhaps, or perhaps not.
Anyone who wades into a very complicated subject matter such as 9/11 and the events connected to it by immediately sequentially employing terms such as “objectively false†and “demonstrably false†is obviously already starting out from the defensive, cover-up position of either someone who knows a lot or someone who knows nothing. He immediately, with orthodox precision, introduces into the discussion the now very tired, amateur tactic of trying to associate “alien abductions†and “holocaust denial†with anyone who says, “Hey, I think somebody blew up them damn buildings!†after watching 1000 different video angles showing mature, hi-tech examples of the 70-year evolution of Israeli military demolitions expertise. Matt and his friends though, before they get too cocky, might want to have a look at those final mortality numbers from all WWII German detention camps published in the 1948 reports of the International Red Cross in Geneva. 273,000 is a lot, lot less than 6 million, and these 1948 Red Cross numbers also match closely the German records seized by the Soviets and turned over by M. Gorbhachev to Elizabeth Dole in the ‘80s when she was heading the International Red Cross.
And, of course, Matt most likely knows historically nothing about the militant zealots like Abba Achimeir, Avram Stern, Vladimir Jabotinsky, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Ariel Sharon, and Binyamin Netanyahu, et al. whose minds, as true zealots, could never be changed from the course that they have set their little stolen country on, a course of national suicide and international pariah-hood. Matt needs to hit the library, especially the history section.
Harvard, like many universities today, seems to have adopted the approach of “we only research and investigate what we are ‘authorized’ by the funders to look into and discuss. And, of course, for Zionism to survive, it must suppress and ultimately destroy free speech, and free investigation and research, as it already does. Zionism is a lie and truth is its mortal enemy. It knows this well.
The new rule is—and I insert this as a ground rule into any discussion on these subjects I have these days with anyone—No Ashkenazi Jew henceforth should be allowed to use the term “Anti-Semite†unless they are including, or referring to Zionist Israel’s own racist policies of oppression towards actual Semitic Arabs and actual Semitic, Sephardic Jews. And yes, Ashkenazim oppression and racial hatred of Sephardic Jews is a fact of life in Israel.
The Ashkenazim who now control Israel are NOT Semitic, and have NO genetic connection to the ancient tribes of Israel and Judah. Palestine was never historically “their land†EVER, and up until the year 740 of the Common Era (CE), i.e. 108 years AFTER the death of the Prophet of Islam, their Kuzari ancestors were still worshipping “pagan gods†in a region between the Black and Caspian Seas. They are Turkic/Caucasian. Not Semitic. The Ashkenazim are the descendants of 8th century CE converts to Judaism. They’re like Sammy Davis, Jr. This is not an “old canard.†This is an historical and biologically proven FACT. American Jews need to adjust their heads to these ‘facts on the ground’.
Rule # 2 - No such thing as a “Zionist Jew.â€
By Jewish scriptural decree and by all moral definitions, “Zionists†are outcasts, rebels against G-d, and heretics. They have historically attacked and continue to attack their “own people,†often using them as false-flag martyrs for “the greater cause of nationalist Zion.†Thus, there is no such thing as a “Zionist Jew.†It is a contradiction in terms, with each side canceling the other out. This is not an old “anti-Semitic canard†to say this. This is the judgment of Torah and is found in the writings of the rabbinical sages of Judaism. Zionists are NOT, I repeat, NOT Jews. An acceptance of Zionist ideology as your path of action and dedication is a formal rejection of Judaism, the faith and its moral teachings.
So in the present we have a truly bizarre, mind-fuck situation where a supposedly “Jewish State†was founded by, and is now being controlled by, people who are neither Semitic nor Jewish, yet most of them operate under the serious and dangerous delusion that they are both, instead of neither. Under the further delusion that some formerly Canaanite deity named YHWH had given to their ancestors the land of Palestine, they themselves have engaged in, for a period of nearly 70 years now, a systematic campaign to dispossess, forcibly deport, and murder in cold blood unarmed Semitic people. If you point out the repeated pattern of that history, these folks will immediately call you an “anti-Semite,†yet are seemingly unaware that their own ideology of Zionism, and its very real history of terrorism, is the greatest form of anti-Semitism existing in the world today. They somehow don’t see the Zionist “Final Solution to the Arab Problem†as anti-Semitic, and they are absolutely aghast when you compare what Israel does to the Arabs as having any equivalency with Nazi policies and operations directed towards European Jews in the 1930s and ’40s. And they are partly correct. The two situations are not the same. For one thing, the Nazi regime only lasted for 13 years, and in a good number of documented cases, the German Reich was a lot kinder to the European Jews than the Israeli Zionistas are to the Arabs. At least the Germans put you on a train ride to a camp being supplied by the International Red Cross. The Israelis just put a gun to your head, a bulldozer to your house, and tell you to hit the road and find a refugee camp somewhere far away to live, and then they cut your orchard down after shooting down the men of the village in a nearby quarry (see Ramlah, Dayr Yassin, etc., etc.). There was a town I read about in eastern Germany that Hitler actually gave to the Jews of that area and he let them manage and run it. It was not a camp. It was a town, but it was a town that they were confined to. Hey, better than a hard bunk at Stalag 13, or Blackhawks over Gaza. I guess Hitler was trying a softer side of Nazism or something. Hitler also tried to swing a deal for Madagascar as a Jewish Homeland. It seems his plan was to deport, not exterminate. They never tell you this stuff in history class, do they.
We should call the Zionistas “History Deniers.â€
And if anyone has any doubts about the fascist, totalitarian, racist nature of modern Zionism in Israel and the dangerous game these folks are engaged in while American media (left and right) hide the crimes of their paymasters, should stop on by for a few hours of video viewing at http://www.palestineremembered.com
Is it jackboot, militaristic Fascism we are seeing in our happy little world? Yes it is.
G-d bless you Laz!
Another tour de force. What is truly sad is that in all of this there are two basic types of people involved, those who are genuinely well-meaning and just completely unaware of what the truth is, and those who play them for fools with full knowledge of what they're doing.
I don't envy those in the first position because they are caught between a rock (that they think is their friend) and what they perceive to be a hard place (we who speak the truth.) It would be very easy to walk away from this terrible situation with the attitude that it is all too much for an "outsider" to get involved in, and this perception is cultivated and indeed accepted by most.
What 9/11 did, in my case, anyway (and I know in many of yours) is to make it clear that situations like this that are ignored have a way of not going away but getting worse until they DO involve oneself. And when that hits home (as it did on 9/11) one has a choice--stick the head back in the sand and hope the new situation somehow resolves itself OR realize your original error and make a decision to take a stand from which one will not budge, never. A stand for the truth, a stand for justice, a stand for universal compassion, a stand against all manner of hatred. A decision like that cannot be taken lightly if it is to be taken seriously. As one learns more and discovers that the truth one has sworn to uphold may be even worse than one imagined, that it will make one unpopular and a target of abuse and even violence--one cannot then shrink from one's commitment.
Those whom the truth threatens to expose as criminals know very well how difficult the path to expose them is, how very unattractive an option it seems to most, and in this they find the comfort and security that keeps them going without fearing discovery or its consequences. We who defy this state of affairs and do not back down and make it clear that we never will are a puzzle to them, since they cannot in their iniquity conceive of such morality and selflessness. How could they, when even those who display it often find it hard to believe that this really is the right choice for them--how often don't so many of us wish we didn't have to do everything we do, how we regret spending precious years this way instead of settling down to raise a family, for instance. *Having* to spend them this way, I should say, for bringing innocent children into such a mad world is unthinkable to me.
What joy, then, having made such a decision, to ultimately discover as a result one's spiritual fellows who one had always hoped existed but just as often despaired of ever finding amidst the other confused souls surrounding one's own. Such confirmation and affirmation is a reward far greater than deserved by our sacrifice which on reflection represents so little asked of us in exchange--to try our best to be good, to do right, and to contribute to something greater than ourselves. And to say with a defiant smile--why no, I have NOT suffered too much, tell me what more needs to be done and let us have at it!
gretavo, even if you smoke,
you're still a "holy man".Â
am further educated and inspired, so what more could i ask for this morning. glad i missed church.
history deniers/speaking of universities, maturity/WTC survivor
so, that's is something about the intl red cross records turned over by Gobachev to Elizabeth Dole. my lord, such a huge discrepancy in numbers!!
i really admire your style, lazlo toth!~! such conviction of thought in your writing.  it's as if you were standing right there on the street with all of us!
regarding what you said about Matt on the Crimson. how true. you'd think that universities would strip these young people of their misguided cultural conditioning alignments. it should be mandated. for the student, this is part of human muturation...to rebel as a youth, think for oneself, learn from others other than one's immediate parents/clan/tribe...although the initiation experience can be painful, it is absolutely the only way to go, man.
Speaking of universities, check out what is coming to ESU March 27 (postponed from last month):
ESU to host terrorism panel discussion
The political science department at East Stroudsburg University will host a panel presentation by terrorism experts Matthew R. McNabb and Mark Silverburg . Guest panelists are specialists on the topics of understanding and fighting terrorism.
Mr. McNabb is the assistant for national security affairs at McNabb Associates P.C., an international criminal defense law firm with offices in Washington, D.C., Houston and London. He has authored several articles on transnational terrorism and Islamic Jihad, and holds degrees from Syracuse University and Kings College in London.
Mr. Silverberg, an expert on terrorism in the Middle East, is the executive director of the Jewish Federation of Northeastern Pennsylvania. His first book, ?The Quartermasters of Terror: Saudi Arabia and the Global Islamic Jihad,? was published in 2005. He is former member of the Justice Department.
NEPAwearechange will be mixing it up....god bless these people. one member of whom, Pat, is a vietnam vet AND a wtc survivor- double ptsd, mucho therapy, xanax, but who now has a pooch pal workin wonders for his anxiety... i had the pleasure of speaking with Pat on air friday. god bless these survivors, victims' families; and regarding the first responders, Pat said in his nyc accent - yeah, dare da real heroz man!!!
blessings, k
"holocaust deniers and truthers travel in packs for some reason"
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=522362
"holocaust deniers and “truthers†travel in packs for some reason"
Is that right, harvard06? The connection is actually made much more often by people like you who would rather people not look into the evidence objectively (in both cases I might add.) In fact, the same cast of characters seems to turn up when either issue is raised.
Here for example, is an episode of Donahue from well before 9/11 featuring Jewish holocaust revisionist David Cole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V93O9wTEh78&feat...
Brought on to "refute" Mr. Cole's points is one Michael Shermer of "Skeptic" magazine. In this other video, you can see Mr. Shermer again, much more recently, talking to the ultra-enlightened Glenn Beck, suggesting that people who ask questions about 9/11 are "potential Tim McVeighs".
How wise do you think it is to linkt hese two issues in people's minds, given that you are suggesting some kind of equivalence? Is your goal to make all who question 9/11 also question the holocaust? Surely not since that would seem to backfire quite easily when people see just how blatant the deception about 9/11 has been. Perhaps you actually think this will discourage people from looking at either issue?
If that is indeed your goal, then perhaps you should instead take the approach that the Jewish Defense League (a terrorist group according to the FBI) took with young Mr. Cole, the Jewish holocaust revisionist. But then, threatening bodily harm to someone until they issue a letter recanting their life's work isn't exactly convincing either is it.
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/c/cole...
So please, harvard06, continue to make your case--you are doing an admirable job to help break the silence.
Oops, here's the Shermer on Glenn Beck video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKppff5yQ8
censored AGAIN
thied or fourth time, can't keep track anymore.
Latest Bust Up On Crimson Comments
Anyone care to join in the fun?
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=522499&disqus_reply=227091&disqus_reply=227096&disqus_reply=227125&disqus_reply=227424#comment-227424
whoa
that asshole accuses you of aiding and abetting terrorists, likens you to (mossad asset) adam gadahn, on and on. unbelievable. did you happen to save your comments before they deleted 'em?
well, sort of...
Apparently the "DisQus" folks are also deleting the comments from my profile. But check out the original article--they really misunderestimate RT... :)