Q: Why Are Sibel, Brad Friedman, and The American Conservative Outing Congresswoman Schakowsky? A: SIBEL EDMONDS JUMPS THE SHARK
Exhibit 1:
Alleged by Whistleblower: Congresswoman Lured into Gay Affair with Turkish Agent as Part of Campaign to Obtain U.S. Nuclear Secrets
Posted by Brad Friedman, Brad Blog at 12:10 PM on September 21, 2009.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/142771/alleged...
Sibel Edmonds names Jan Schakowsky as the potential target for Turkish govt. blackmail, and alleges massive corruption among Congressmembers over nuke secrets.
Exhibit 2:
Then in April, Representative Jan Schakowsky, Democrat of Illinois, said insurers were right to fear that a public plan could “put the private insurance industry out of business.” That might happen because of “the superiority of the public health care option,” said Ms. Schakowsky, one of 86 co-sponsors of a bill to establish a single-payer system.
What the hell do people think is going on here, and what exactly does it have to do with 9/11?
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found this comment to an article about Blagojevich...
December 9, 2008 4:40 pm Link
A person frequently mentioned as a replacement for Barack Obama is Rep. Jan Schakowsky. It appears that none of the national press realize that her husband is a convicted felon who was prosecuted by United States Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. At the time, she made the absurd accusation that the US Attorney’s office was going after him to punish her for her opposition to the war in Iraq. In fact, he a long history of repeated illegal activities before he was convicted.
— Gil Franco
she opposed the Iraq War AND wants torture investigated
Lawmakers Push Interrogation Inquiries
By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN
Published: April 24, 2009
WASHINGTON — With President Obama opposed to an independent investigation of harsh interrogation techniques approved by the Bush administration, committee leaders in both the House and Senate said Friday that they intended to press ahead with public inquiries.
While the Senate Intelligence Committee has already begun a classified investigation into the interrogation and detention methods authorized by the Justice Department, Representative Jan Schakowsky, Democrat of Illinois, said on Friday that she would lobby for an open inquiry by the House Intelligence Committee, and was prepared to use her subcommittee on oversight and investigations to undertake one.
“I would like to be sure that if not the full committee, the subcommittee can play a role here,” Ms. Schakowsky said in an interview. “One of the things I’d really like to focus on is how we can do this at least in part in open hearings, so that all of this once again isn’t pushed behind closed doors, so we can bring in witnesses and have this discussion before the American people.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/25/us/politics/25cong.html
could Rahm Emanuel be behind this?
Mr. Emanuel’s list of possible candidates included a senior adviser to Mr. Obama, Valerie Jarrett; the Illinois attorney general, Lisa Madigan; Representative Jan Schakowsky; and Dan Hynes, the state comptroller.
The criminal complaint quotes Mr. Blagojevich as saying at one point that Mr. Obama’s aides were not willing to give him anything more than “appreciation” in return for appointing a candidate they favored.
Ms. Schakowsky told The New York Times last week that she called Mr. Emanuel last month when she was exploring whether she might fill Mr. Obama’s seat. She and Mr. Emanuel had served in the House together.
Ms. Schakowsky said Mr. Emanuel had declined to tell her if Mr. Obama had a favorite to fill the seat. She said he seemed wary about Mr. Blagojevich.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/us/politics/14emanuel.html
curiouser and curiouser!
The committee has already begun to collect C.I.A. documents about the assassination program, which was created shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and was abandoned, officials have said, without ever having taken on a mission. Democratic lawmakers said Friday that the C.I.A.’s failure to notify members of Congress about the secret program may have been illegal.
The agency’s director, Leon E. Panetta, called emergency meetings with the House and Senate Intelligence Committees last month to inform them about the program, which he had canceled a day earlier. Mr. Panetta told the lawmakers that the program had initially been concealed from Congress at the behest of Dick Cheney, then vice president.
One Democratic member of the House committee, Representative Jan Schakowsky of Illinois, said that in addition to the plans for killing Qaeda leaders, the review would cover what she described as the failure to inform Congress fully or accurately about three other issues: C.I.A. involvement in the downing of a missionary plane mistaken for a narcotics flight in Peru in 2001, and two matters that remain classified.
In addition, the inquiry is likely to look at the Bush administration’s program of eavesdropping without warrants and its detention and interrogation program.
Current and former intelligence officials have said that the scuttled assassination program was troubled by logistical problems and never progressed beyond the planning stage. Ms. Schakowsky, however, said she believed that the program had gone beyond planning and training, though she declined to discuss details.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/us/politics/18intel.html
and then some
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Bill Maher interviews Sam Harris, the author of “Letter to a Christian Nation”, about the state of religion in today’s political landscape. The panel of comedian/host Jay Leno, author/NBC News political director Chuck Todd and Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D – IL) discuss the way the Republicans have skewed the health care debate and the media’s role in changing the national point-of-view. Journalist Jeremy Scahill of TheNation.com discusses Blackwater and private military forces with Bill Maher and the panel.
she was an early Obama supporter
Representative Jan Schakowsky, Democrat of Illinois, preferred Mr. Obama’s speech, which again invoked Martin Luther King Jr’s “fierce urgency of now” in terms of making health care available to every American and preventing lobbyists from contributing to campaigns. Ms. Schakowsky, an overall Obama supporter, spoke to The Caucus about her impressions after the morning session. She touched on what she thought of Mr. Edwards’s claim that he’s the man who will knock down this barrier between Washington bigwigs and regular folks:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/dnc-fall-meeting-ends-on-d...
errr...not neo-conservative enough?
Among Senator Obama’s Jewish supporters are several members of Congress: Representatives Steven R. Rothman of New Jersey, Adam B. Schiff of California, Jan Schakowsky of Illinois and Robert Wexler of Florida.
In the American Jewish Committee’s national Annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion, 70 percent of Jewish Democrats said they had a favorable opinion of Senator Clinton, compared with 45 percent for Senator Obama. The survey, a telephone poll conducted in November, involved 1,000 respondents who said they were Jewish; its margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3 percentage points.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/nyregion/03jewish.html
she was in India discussing Pakistan right after 9/11...
Still, Hawaii seems an exception in this period between Congressional sessions. Representative Jan Schakowsky, Democrat of Illinois, reported from India that she had had meetings with a number of senior officials there on a visit that had been planned before the escalation of tensions with Pakistan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/11/us/washington-talk-a-downturn-in-trave...
Ur talking to urself gret.
Ur talking to urself gret. ;-)
Are they actually "outing"
Are they actually "outing" Schakowsky? The story sounded more like they were claiming to "out" an evil plot to blackmail Schakowsky. I don't know if that's true, but the only sense I in which they seemed to "out" something about Schakowsky was with claim that she was bisexual. I can't say if that's true either, but the real focus of the claims made was not so much on claiming to reveal bad things about Schakowsky but just saying that some bad people were after her and wanted to blackmail her by getting her entangled in a lesbian relationship. In an earlier day, planting a story that a politician was homosexual could be a surefire way of ruining them. But that's not likely to be the case today, and that's the only sense in which I could see this as a potential attempt to smear Schakowsky, by circulating rumors of a lesbian relationship which may or may not be true. Other than that, the story gives a rather favorable impression of Schakowsky as someone who pissed off all the right people. Especially in today's climate, I don't think that anyone who isn't already an Obama birther is going to find anything unfavorable about Schakowsky in this story.
see my comments below...
the story is moving forward and it all seems to make a lot more sense! note the carefully scripted inclusion of the birther comparison to truthers! SO fkn obvious now what this is all about.
And Sibel, guess what?
YOU JUST JUMPED THE SHARK!!
jump the shark?
what does that phrase mean, exactly?
jumping the shark
means going from believable to absurd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
back probably in the late '70s, this long running and (decreasingly) popular TV sitcom called "Happy Days" was running out of plotlines, until one day some brilliant writer had the fantastic idea to have one of the main characters, "Fonzie" (a motorcycle riding greaser who liked to say "Ayyyyyy" all the time) jump over a shark while water skiing.
very succintly put!
does nobody bother to read the "useful terminology" page where some of our jargon is explained?? ------------>
the thing about Sibel is that no matter how true what she's saying may be (and some argue quite interestingly that the "turkish spies" may well have been "gaming" the intel, which means ANYONE may have been "gaming the intel", which means Sibel may be able to claim plausible deniability after leading the truth movement down a long, LIHOPpy blind alley) true, Jon Gold is her biggest fan. Nuff. Said.
in a perfect world
all of her claims are backed up by actual audio tapes which could, in theory at least, be later verified by another (trustworthy?) interpreter. Although as you point out, who's to say what's on the audio tapes wasn't put there intentionally to misdirect the blame towards Turkey when perhaps it's actually agents of another nation (or of non-national loyalties) behind the curtain pulling the strings.
I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers but yes, the reciprocated admiration with Gold is unsettling. My read is that Gold is a sycophant and she can use all the help she can get. But yeah, 1 point for you Gret.
By the way, has anyone ever noticed the similarity between the names:
Jon Gold -- Jonah Goldberg ? Probably means nothing but for some reason it made me curious.
sure, she can eat crackers...
but I think it's worrying to me that we are so starved for revelations of any kind that vindicate us in any way that we are geting way ahead of ourselves and getting excited about something that doesn't seem to have much to do with 9/11 truth--other than Jon Gold's insistence that bin Laden's intimate relationship with the CIA or whatever means the hijackings really happened.
the other shoe drops...
Here is the office of Jan Schakowsky's response...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7429
"The American Conservative's most recent hit piece against Congresswoman Schakowsky is complete fantasy; cut from the same cloth as the stories by "birthers" that President Obama is not an American citizen. The source of this story subscribes to the bizarre conspiracy theory that elements of the United States government were involved in the 9/11 attacks.
A simple review of the facts would lead any responsible person to conclude that there is not a shred of truth to any aspect of this story.
It would be just as accurate to say the Congresswoman was kidnapped by little green men and carried in a space ship to the planet Xenon.
From the start, the fantasy is riddled with factual errors. It claims that an "intimate" relationship between a fictional female Turkish spy and the congresswoman began at the funeral of the congresswoman's mother after 2000, however, Rep. Schakowsky's mother died thirteen years earlier in 1987.
Furthermore, it is alleged that the "relationship" occurred in the congresswoman's bugged town house even though she has never owned or lived in a town house in her life. Congresswoman Schakowsky shares a small apartment with her husband in a busy Washington, DC apartment building and owns a single-family home in Illinois.
In fact not one of the events in this fantastic tale ever took place.
Had The American Conservative, (which was founded by Pat Buchanan) adhered to normal journalistic standards it would have fact checked the story and contacted our office. Its goal was not apparently good journalism, but to fabricate one more story line for the right wing smear machine and conspiracy theorists everywhere."
As far as I'm concerned, their response brings even more credibility to Sibel Edmonds. Be sure to read Sibel's response.
Edit: Take note about what Larisa Alexandrovna said:
I know who the alleged Rep is and so do others.
An indication that others are aware of possible shenanigans related to Schakowsky.
Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?
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so the question is...
will the Congresswoman sue Sibel or the AmConMag for libel? And if not, why not? Could it be that just maybe the Congresswoman (former colleague of Rahm Emanuel), Brad Friedman, Jon Gold, and Sibel Edmonds all have a similar motivation masked by the ostensible diversity of their views and backgrounds?
Uhhhhhh.... yes maybe? :)
why does Schakowski oppose warrantless wiretaps?
could it be less out of principle and more out of a fear of being the next Jane Harman caught peddling influence by a wiretap? could Sibel's allegations be deliberately bogus so as to be easily debunked and distract from what the REAL allegations should be against Schakowski? how fiendishly clever it all (maybe) is, eh? and why would Schakowski play along? maybe it has nothing to do with being a closet lesbian, but something to do with her husband's legal troubles?
From Sibel's blog
Here is Sibel's response to Schakowsky, with live links at her blog. Gret, I need the shark jumpage spelled out for me -- my dot-connector is in the shop this week.
Inviting Ms. Schakowsky to Join…….
Source: 123realchange.blogspot.com
Dear Congresswoman Schakowsky:
It is an age-old tactic, when one cannot refute statements with facts, to attempt to discredit the witness. Rather than exchanging accusations, let me just go on record with facts and detailed citations.
When I became aware of incriminating evidence against high-level U.S. officials—elected and appointed—I filed under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and fought for five years in court. I bore tremendous cost, financially and emotionally, to make this data public. Here is the court case identification: C.A. No. 1:02CV01294 (ESH).
Few citizens have gone this far in a FOIA case to make covered-up information available to the public. No one gains financially from fighting this kind of thing in court, and I am no exception. You have called me a fantasist, but would a fabricator pay as dearly as I did to have her claims investigated?
I fought another court case to expose government criminality through key witnesses and documents. As in the FOIA case, I bore tremendous costs and was again blocked by the invocation of the State Secrets Privilege and National Security. The court case identification is Civ.No.1:02CV01448(JR)).
No other citizen has twice had the State Secrets Privilege invoked. But why would the government, with the support of congressional representatives, go to such lengths to quash, gag, and classify the files and operations in question if they were “fantasy, lies, and nonexistent” as you say?
I complied with the whistleblowing rule and took my case to the Office of the Inspector General and provided all of the information they allowed me to. They interviewed dozens of witnesses and reviewed hundreds of pages of documents in their investigation of my credibility and the validity of my case. Here is the link to their confirmation that I and my case have merit: DOJ-IG Report. Here is the redacted report that shows how our government censored more than 90% of this report to the public: Redacted DOJ-IG Report. Very few national security whistleblowers have been granted this level of validation and vindication. The Justice Department’s own Office of the Inspector General disagrees with your characterization of me and my case.
Several senior members of Congress—from both sides of the aisle--have also investigated and publicly confirmed my credibility and the grave nature of my disclosures. This is what Senator Leahy had to say: Leahy Statement. This is what Congresswoman Maloney said: Rep. Maloney Statement. Here are the assessments of Senator Lautenberg--Sen. Lautenberg Statement—and Senator Grassley--Sen. Grassley Statement. By attacking my credibility, you are also attacking your colleagues, including many on your side of the aisle. Are you accusing these senators and representatives of being fantasists too?
You have been described as a “true blue” civil libertarian, so it will surely interest you to know that the ACLU has declared me “the most gagged” person in the history of this great nation. Are you also attacking the ACLU and calling their characterization of this case a fantasy?
I have testified under oath, and my public biography will provide you with information about my educational background, financial background, and family life. I am fully aware of the consequences of perjury, and as you can see, I would have a lot to lose were that the case. I am sure you are familiar with my sworn testimony, but you can review it here.
I’ve done more than my share through the courts, IG offices, Congress, and media. I don’t have your power. You sit on the House Intelligence Committee, and you are one of the members of the majority party in Congress.
Here is what you can do: Call for an investigation and a hearing before your committee on this long covered-up case. Subpoena the files and call the witnesses. Bring in retired Special Agent Gilbert Graham and have him testify on the official report and complaint he filed with the DOJ inspector general in 2002 regarding the FBI counterespionage investigations involving Turkey and Israel in which targeted US representatives were illegally wiretapped. This is not fiction. Here is the official and signed public version: SA Gilbert Graham Report.
Also bring in former FBI Counterintelligence Operations Manager & Espionage Investigator John M. Cole and have him testify under oath regarding espionage cases involving State Department officials, Pentagon officials, and Congressional members. Here is a preview of some of the information disclosed and confirmed by Agent Cole: Interview and Radio Interview.
Also bring in the sworn testimonies of current FBI special agents in the Chicago and DC field offices who dutifully and patriotically led the counterintelligence operations on Turkey and corrupt US officials, only to see their investigations blocked and covered-up. Their names are public.
Order the Justice Department to release the two main Counterintelligence Operations Files on Turkey and “US persons of interest”—one from FBI Chicago Field Office-1996-2002, the other from FBI DC Field Office-1996-2001. These will help bring out the facts regarding your story too. I have documentation supporting the existence of these files.
Recall that I did not accuse you of any criminal or espionage-related activity.
The last time I saw a similar attack on my credibility was when Dennis Hastert issued a non-denial denial to information contained in a previous magazine article. He later gave up his seat, registered himself (under FARA) as an agent for the government of Turkey, and went on to collect $35,000 per month as a foreign agent. I certainly hope you are not planning to follow his footsteps by giving up your seat and officially registering with a foreign government. It would be far better if you used your position to bring out the facts. I will be delighted to assist you.
Sibel Edmonds
luv ya Gret
but I hope you're wrong on this one. To this post, I must say "bravo Sibel". luv u too Cass. :)
i hope I'm wrong too...
...but something about this is waaaay too... something.