Shayler implodes
I was browsing through 911B when I found a post on David Shayler claiming to be the messiah. The post made reference to a UK 911 forum:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10579
Shayler had earlier claimed to be a member of British intel and spoke several times about 911. I think a lot of guys here (wtcdemo), to their credit, have previously identified him as a disinfo agent. As predicted by truthers, the shills would eventually go haywire - Shayler is now in self-destruct mode.
Here is a short background on Shayler from the Glastonbury Symposium where he talked of 911.
"Originally an award-winning editor and journalist, David was recruited to the British intelligence organisation MI5 in 1991. After leaving in 1996, he and his then partner Annie Machon became whistleblowers for the internal 'crimes and incompetence' of the intelligence services, resulting in David's much-publicised spells in prison, and his recent court case over conflicts with the Official Secrets Act. His experiences in exposing hidden government plots and scandals has led him to become a leading icon in the new wave of 'truth campaigns' concerning 9/11, the subsequent 'War on Terror' and what he describes as 'false flag' terrorist acts."
The forum post claims this is what happened at the sympo "...An extremely tolerant and generally sympathetic audience sat in stunned silence as they endured an hour long narcissistic monologue during which a frail-looking David Shayler explained that he was not only the re-incarnation of the Christ but also the re-incarnation of King Arthur, Leonardo Da Vinci and a whole host of other historically significant characters..."
The perps must be getting desperate to now be pulling the plug on their shills and try to take away credibility from the movement. It took them a long time to develop and promote Shayler. I wonder who will implode next. (If he is just genuinely sick, my apologies to Shayler and family)
If you read the UK thread above, a lot of the posts were downright disinfo.
Edit: I just read more about the Glastonbury Sympo - they talk of crop circles and other "alternative" topics. No wonder the the people posting on the UK thread sounded far out.
ha! David Icke in reverse...
David Icke began his career by claiming to be the messiah, now he just makes sure to talk about reptilian aliens among the elite. That said, some of his books have good info in them, but I guess that's the idea--put the best info in a shitty wrapper and no one will go near it...
How classic! Shayler=Turd in the Punch Bowl
Somehow this doesn't surprise me. For a while, at least since Shayler's infamous stunt on Sky News last year when he came out as a "no planer", I considered Shayler in a category of shills I call "Turd in the Punch Bowl". Essentially, these are the type of shills who start out giving a really good truth party, where it looks like at first they are bringing a lot of people to the party by offering a lot of really good convincing evidence exposing the conspiracy. Then at some point, after the party is really rocking, they drop the proverbial turd in the punch bowl in order to spoil the party.
It's like the situation with Charles Spiesel, who was brought in as a star witness by Jim Garrison in the trial against Clay Shaw who Garrison was attempting to prove was a co-conspirator in the JFK Assassination. Charles Spiesel had been a key witness with critical information proving Clay Shaw's involvement. But as soon as Garrison brought him to trial to testify in front of the jury, he went looney. On cross-examination, it turned out that Spiesel had filed civil suits demanding millions of dollars from New York police, the Pinkerton detective agency, a psychiatrist and others, for conspiring to keep him under hypnosis and torture him until confidential information had been extracted. He estimated that 50 to 60 enemies had hypnotized him in the past few years, planting wild ideas in his head. It took jurors less than an hour to find Shaw not guilty.
Perhaps Shayler is now performing his side of the bargain as part of an offer he couldn't refuse in order to stay out of jail.
Remember when 911B Front-Paged the Newest Shayler Video?
Wasn't too long ago, and we were right about it weren't we! All in a day's shilling for 911blogger.com I guess!
911Blogger Front Pages Video Featuring Mega-Disinfo Shill David Shayler
She's Baaaccckkk
She's baaaaacckkkk...
Sibel Edmonds hits 9/11 BLogger once again...
http://911blogger.com/node/10332
Right about Shayler, right about the Pakistani ISI goose chase, right about Kucinich's 'limited investigation' into a 'few specific aspects' about 9/11...
Don't you just love the caption under her photo...
"Sibel Edmonds - The former fbi translator who holds the key to unraveling the entire criminal conspiracy that is the Bush Administration"
Now I don't count her out of the game by any means. But come on...the red flags are nearly jumping out of my web browser and poking me in the eye.
i won't make any cunning linguist jokes
but I must say I'm tempted. let me just say, for the record, once more, with emphasis...
I am sick of Sibel Edmonds.
Done. Over. Is there any way we can literally gag her so she'll shut up?
She is a professional distraction. She probably DOES have dirt on a few people--you know what? So does Mossad. You know what? I think you know what.
I'd like to hear what she has to say.
"SH: Sibel, let's see if we can figure out why they [the government] are going to such lengths to keep you quiet. Can you tell me, what is the American Turkish Council – let me rephrase that, can you tell me what the American Turkish Council is?
SE: Well sure, it's on the Web site. They are this lobbying organization for Turkish business and relationship between U.S. and Turkey. It's exactly like AIPAC
SH: Oh good, exactly like AIPAC!
SE: Exactly. In fact, they have so many crossovers, if you look at their members you will see many that are members of both organizations. And if you look at the people who are in the management and are in charge of these lobbying groups, you come across the same names, which is very interesting.
SH: That is very interesting. In fact, my next guest after you will be Bob Dreyfuss about the AIPAC spy scandal and something that occurred to me last night as I read the Vanity Fair piece An Inconvenient Patriot about you, was that some of the things I read about in there, and we'll try to get to some of this a little bit later, were about "unnamed Department of State and Department of Defense employees," which made me wonder whether perhaps your case is tied in with the AIPAC spy scandal case in any way.
SE: Absolutely. And I cannot go into any details – and maybe some other investigative journalist from across the ocean will come here and do the rest of this article – as article part two. But even the AIPAC spy scandal, as far as I'm reading today, is just touching the surface of it. It's going only to a certain degree. It doesn't go high enough, in what it involves and how far it goes, and that's as far, and the best – as far as I can explain."
http://antiwar.com/horton/?articleid=7032
Then there's this...
You wouldn't?
of course I WOULD ;) but what's so shocking?
oh my god, there's a revolving door between powerful private interest groups and governemnt? WHOA! ya don't say! Some of these guys are actually NOT serving the public, but their own interests and those of the people they work for as agents of a foreign government? My god! You mean... you mean... Israel and America don't REALLY have shared values? That's just the work of a corrupt lobby? OH MY GOD!
From what I can tell Sibel just says "Turkey" a lot. She just keeps saying the same old crap. Why doesn't someone who isn't gagged just fill us in? They could do it through athird party and no one would ever know who spilled the beans. Sorry but my BS-o-meter has had it with Sibel.
-G (that's me)
Not only that...
If she has information on criminal activity involving black market nukes and terrorism....how could anyone possibly keep that information out of the public merely because John Ashcroft said so?
I've looked into her story and it's a very odd one. No time to go into it now as it's 1 AM and I'm too tired. But the details seem non-sensible at times. For example, she talks about a linguist who barely knows the English or the target language he is translating. Then the guy is sent to Gitmo. to help translate for Gitmo trials. I don't know. There are more details that made me go ummmmmm.... but I am beat so another day...
I know what you guys are saying.
I've been skeptical of her from the beginning. If you're not suspicious of everyone at this point... well, fool me once, shame on me, right? I just think it's funny (interesting) she'll say things (under gag no less) most "9-11 truther's" don't dare speculate on.
"For example, she talks about a linguist who barely knows the English or the target language he is translating. Then the guy is sent to Gitmo. to help translate for Gitmo trials."
That also happened at Abu Ghraib.
We don't need her to prove 911 was an 'inside job', in any case.