Huffington Post allows demand for 9-11 reinvestigation - But is it LIHOP Limited Hangout?
Hope you don't mind Juan, I retitled and made this into a blog entry!  -gReT
Huffington Post allows demand for 9-11 reinvestigation
Submitted by juandelacruz on Thu, 2009-04-02 05:57.
That left gatekeeping website is finally softening up. Even though Arianna Huffington had previously said that they censor posts on 9-11 truth as a policy, this short blog demanding a reinvestigation was allowed to be posted recently. Maybe they are starting to get a conscience. Maybe they realize the consequences of being on the wrong team when the truth reaches everyone. Most comments are a-ok except for some lihop stuff.Â
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More on Melissa Rossi
I'm sorry, but she's a fan of Judith Miller? Huh? Judith "I pimped the Iraq invasion in the New York Times for the Office of Special Plans" Miller? Specifically, a fan of her book on militant Islamism? Something smells not so fresh...
 http://www.rolfpotts.com/writers/rossi.php
Well, it was just too good
Well, it was just too good to be true that Huffington Post has turned a corner. Let's see how this will play out.
it's a sign that we're at a critical juncture
and as someone said to me yesterday (in an economic context) "a crisis is a terrible thing to waste."
Clearly we have pushed the envelope far enough so that something has changed, for HuffPost to have taken this step. That is a sign that the situation may be increasingly seen as critical from the point of view of the cover-up. For many years many of us have talked about the importance and significance of reaching "critical mass", and many of us have also acted with an eye to preparing for that tipping point. "They" would have preferred not to have to play this LIHOP card but we have forced their hand in the matter, to our credit! It doesn't mean we're out of the woods, it just means that we're on the right track and making progress. If indeed they are going to enact "plan B", they know that they will be vulnerable--that's why it was "plan B" and not "plan A"--so we should be even more careful now than we have been in the past to avoid the traps they will be setting. On the other hand, we can hope that being as brazen and haughty as they seem to be, they will have not totally thought through the pitfalls of their "plan B", which may lead to some pleasant surprises for us down the line...
can we move this discussion to this thread? thanks!
Here is what was over on the original thread on a different subject...
ok, looks pretty good, but let's see where they go with it...
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2009-04-02 11:37.
If it's some kind of LIHOP limited hangout that will suck.
Check out the comments--great stuff, lots of demolition people, links to Architects and Engineers, etc. This is a very positive development! Thanks for catching this Juan!
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Submitted by juandelacruz on Thu, 2009-04-02 13:38.
if you click on the link that says to be continued, you end up on an extension of the comments including a response by the author to one of her detractors.
boloboffin: An examination of the events that led up to 9/11 would indeed be welcome, and always will. I am saddened, however, to see the reasons that Ms. Rossi uses to call for the investigation. The comments show that this is quickly becoming the haven of many 9/11 conspiracy theorists, eagerly promoting their own websites full of silliness and deception.
I ask my fellow Democrats and progressives to look more closely at the kind of investigations that have already been done into many of these questions. Plenty has already been revealed, things the conspiracy theorists would not have you know.
For example, the identities of the hijackers are beyond question, Ms. Rossi. They left such a clear and unambiguous trail before boarding the planes, it's a scandal that they weren't discovered before then. Investigate why that was, but we know who the hijackers were.
The FDR information from 93 has been released and all systems were normal when the plane crashed. The only thing unusual about the plane was its speed, orientation, and trajectory.
The wargames were standard ones regularly scheduled for the time of year, and they contributed to the response time of the military (for what that was worth). In fact, the only major violations of procedure was to increase response time. Investigate why they came up with different stories before the NORAD tapes were used to find the truth, but why those planes couldn't be intercepted is beyond question.
Melissa Rossi - Huffpost Blogger: Hi,
To clarify: I'm not saying -- at all -- that the issues (or nonissues as the case may be) about flight 93, black boxes, etc are the best or only or most solid reasons to reopen the investigation on 9/11.
What I'm saying is the earlier investigation wasn't at all complete, a lot of questions weren't and still aren't answered, and that there were some apparent conflicts of interest via the committee itself -- ie executive director Philip Zelikow angling for a job before, and getting one afterwards. When the co-chairs say they were hampered and the commission was set up to fail -- as I note in part one -- I'm likely to think the investigation was indeed stymied. That alone is reason to reopen an investigation, being as this was the single most important event in recent American history. There are plenty of others, including simply set the record straight. Debunk the false information, and take a fresh look at what was presented before.
Very conservative, lihop friendly comment.
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Actually Melissa Rossi doesn't have a great track record on 9/11
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2009-04-02 13:30.
I actually got her book What Every American Should Know About Who's Really Running America a few years back and to the extent that it discussed 9/11 it was about blowback and foreknowledge, including the "explanation" of the Israeli spy ring as having been "tracking al Qaeda in the U.S."
The big question as our mounting pressure forces places like HuffPost to scramble to keep up in order to retain their credibility is whether what we are seeing is 1) an act of conscience driven by newfound courage or a calculation that exposing the truth is now safe or 2) the latest attempt at a limited hangout tp preserve the Islamofascist myth.
Knowing for certain whether it is 1) or 2) is not nearly as important as what many of the commenters on HuffPost are doing which is to use the opportunity to immediately, carefully, and consistently bring to light the kinds of evidence like the demolition of the WTC and the lack of credible evidence of genuine "hijackings by arab muslim terrorists" that are at odds with a LIHOP scenario. And yes, we should put the term LIHOP front and center because what worked in the movement will work in the mainstream--marginalizing as out of touch with the facts those who persist in assigning responsibility for 9/11 to "Bush/Cheney and al Qaeda" as a unit, since this is precisely the kind of framing that would seem to appeal most to the powers that be who are now "on Obama's side against terrorism".
All our work as real truthers has been with this goal in mind--to prevent the inevitable exposure of the truth from being taken off the rails into some bogus LIHOP-land of limited hangout and fresh new myths. *Our* time, in other other words, is coming!
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