Naturally, if I had said "no Jon, they DO care enough about the cause to speak out against saboteurs like yourself" or anything close, I would have been banned in January instead of May, so sure, in order to remain unbanned for a little while longer, I gave the much more wishy washy answer. I compromised myself so I could continue to speak truth to power about the Pentagon attack.

Also, while I'm not in any firm agreement that Gold is a paid saboteur, in particular one who works for Lucky Larry, I do think Jon absolutely falls under the category, to paraphrase KB: "If you're not an op, you might as well be." Because whether he's an op or a dupe, the functionality of his presence remains the same: discord and gatekeeping. Based on the evidence I've seen, Jon seems to simply be an ego-driven, obstinate dupe. The kind of person about whom the *actual* agents are high-fiving each other in the lunchroom over the fact that they're saving money by NOT having to employ this guy.

A classic example: in 2009, he butted in to one of those marathon Pentagon discussions, and said, "A question for CIT supporters: How do they explain the witnesses who say they saw a plane?" IMHO, were he a professional operative, he would not have asked such an embarrassingly ignorant and dumb question. More likely, he had been duped by people like Vic Ashley into believing that Craig and Aldo are "no planers" in the WTC/holograms sense. Which is not surprising given that Victoria conflates the two with every opportunity she possibly can (including the current thread announcing the advent of the three new truth groups).

My own opinion: The people who I deeply suspect of being on the payroll include:

Hoffman and Ashley, Brian Good (truebeleauger) , Erik Larson, Justin Keogh, Julian Ware, jimd3100, Frank Legge, John Albanese, Cosmos.

I think the following are people who've been successfully duped by the above list:

Jon Gold, Chris Sarns, Zombie Bill Hicks, Arcterus, Scott Ford, LeftWright, Hoz Turner (PersianPaladin) John Bursill, and others I'm sure I'll think of later.