The 9/11 Truth Silver Bullet

gretavo's picture

Got some pretty amazing results today with this... try it out yourself and see how much more willing people are to talk about it...

 

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Lazlo Toth's picture

The Best 9/11 Truth Display Yet!

Thanks for caring to fight for the naked truth against the naked lying king.

gretavo's picture

(9/11) Truth in Advertising

Hey, whatever it takes! So yeah, people would come up and say something like--"wait, then WHO DID IT?" And then I would say, "well, I can't say I know for sure, but I do know that planes alone could not have made three HUGE buildings completely disintegrate." And then you might get "THREE buildings? You fool! There were only TWO twin towers!" et cetera... :)

The point of course is to make people realize that they shouldn't assume to know what we are saying until they hear us out...

casseia's picture

So you don't just immediately launch

into "The Jooooooos did it"?

(For readers unfamiliar with this site's penchant for sarcasm and witty repartee, this is not, in fact, a dig at gret.)

However, what would you say if you went with the "we don't know...yadda yadda...freefall...molten metal" and the person came back with, well how do you KNOW it wasn't the US gov, then?

gretavo's picture

good question

One thing I like to say is "well, my dad served in the state department for 20 years and HE didn't ahve anything to do with it, and for that matter neither did anyone in the department of education, etc. to say the USG did it is a nonsense. Certainly some corruptos in the USG may have had some involvement, but I have seen no evidence that leads me to believe that the president is one of them (cover-up not included). The place to start is with the buildings that were destroyed--who owned them? Who benefitted from their destruction? taking advantage of the attacks is very different from planning and executing them."

The idea, again, is manifold. One point is to make people question the claims they hear about us, and claiming Bush is (relatively) innocent is a GREAT way, especially with conservative folks--and it's not lying--what proof do we have of any wrongdoing by Bush? See the letter Jon Gold posted today--that guy didn't think Bush was in the know...

Another point is to get people away from the either/or scenario of: if it wasn't Arab Muslim terrorists it must have been the US govt attacking its own people. Nonsense! If it wasn't Arab Muslims, and we know this because logically they would not have had the access necessary to demolish the buildings, then the floor is open to suggestions, and that's when we start looking at who privatized the WTC to whom and what went on there in the weeks before 9/11. Faced thus with the realization that there IS a real threat, and that it is not Arab Muslims and also not (necessarily) our own gov't, people may well say "well damn, this does make sense, and I really want to know who WAS responsible since it does seem like these folks are at least right about the physical evidence."

Which brings us right back to the Alex Jones strategy of being a complete ass and giving the rest of us a bad name, coupled with Mike Ruppert claiming that physical evidence is a dead end and we should focus instead on trying to make sense of a bunch of shadowy claims by shadowy folks (like Delmart Vreeland, that joke).

In my opinion we would have had critical mass awareness long ago if it had not been for the sabotage by the fake truth movement, just as the war in Iraq may have already ended were it not for the fake antiwar movement dominated by neo-stalinist groups like World Can't Wait, etc. In fact the fake antiwar and fake truth movements are almost certainly dominated by the same cast of characters behind the scenes.

Momma was right, the truth WILL out!

Lazlo Toth's picture

I agree with everything he just said, and

I agree with everything he just said, and we’ll have another round over here, thanks...

Yeah, Gretavo this reminds me of something someone said to me the other day. This guy asked me who I really honestly thought was the most likely culprit to be able to operationally pull this whole 9/11 thing off, and I said probably Mossad with a little inside neocon assist. He immediately came back with, “Absolutely. They have the most to gain from the operation and are the most competent party to be able to pull it off, along with the cover-up afterwards. The ‘Bush-USG did it’ thing is ridiculous and just makes the 9/11 truth people look completely naiive. Mossad is highly competent and motivated. Bush is not. He couldn’t manage a lemonade stand, for godsakes.” I meet people all the time, out of the blue, who completely know what’s goin’ on. It really amazes me. It must be them internet tubes that the info trucks drive through or somethin’.

kate of the kiosk's picture

Bush and the culps

i have used a similar approach with a few of my conservative republican pro-bush family members...it's amazing how quickly they can accept jews vs. muslims, as long as we don't blame their beloved Bush/Cheney...sick.

i, myself (reflexive pronoun!),  tend to have a mish-mush view on 9/11 culpability, incorporating some of AJ's bilderberger stuff - one-world government - bankers - illuminati- nazi-supporting-bush-family - CIA -good shepherd skull-and-bones shit in with the mossad/cia/m16 operation culps. incredibly evil, arrogant, psycho and sociopathological racist factions with divergent yet copesthetic agendas working together to grab the power, the money, the oil, the weapons, reshape the middle east and our planet as we know it...

i don't know if that fits on a hand-out card, though!!! haha not funny. believe me i'm not smiling, really, i'm not. 

back to Bush culpability:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/05/fallon-bush-fire/

gretavo's picture

more to report

hey folks, not to sound TOO optimistic but I stayed out after work to put the new approach through the paces and I can only say that I may have even misunderestimated the effectiveness. It's literally like night and day. You HAVE to try this just to see the look on people's faces when they read "the fine print".

A few excerpts:

Gorgeous young woman: Ummm, hi. Can you explain? I mean, this is something I haven't seen--what do you mean exactly?

gretavo: [oh wow] umm, well, I realized a lot of people were jumping to conclusions about what I think and really I just think we have to go back and look at what happened to the buildings...

gyw: controlled demolition... my boyfriend and I just watched that documentary and we were like wow this is interesting but where do we go from here?

gretavo: [damn...] exactly, so you know about it. Well, check out the books by David Ray Griffin, etc.

We went on to talk about the possibility that Israel may have been involved and how if it was the case we would soon possibly have to stand up for Jewish folk as we now do for muslims. She was great.

Older dude from my anti-war days who I actually do still trust (one of the few:) What do you mean? Of course it was Bush!

He went on to object, citing Securacom, Marvin Bush, etc. I told him to check out Ace Elevator. He made a great point which was how did I know it wasn't Bush, and I had to explain that it was more about the psychology, and that in fact I couldn't say for SURE that he didn't have a hand in it, but that my goal was to get people to accept controlled demolition first (f*** you, Diane!) He was glad when I explained that I was not in fact letting Bush off the hook for anything--far from it, and understood that this was a PR decision as much as anything.

older guy, stranger: Hey, just reading your sign--of course it wasn't Bush!

gret: right, but the buildings were demolished with explosives and it wasn't al Qaeda who did that.

ogs: oh, no, of course! he did Iraq, but this was other people.

And that's just a sampling--there were more.

You know what? The perps are S-C-R-E-W-E-D. This thing is about to blow wide open.

juandelacruz's picture

nice, will try it too

nice, will try it too

juandelacruz's picture

This post at 911B is a case of Kettle and Pot

quote from
http://www.911blogger.com/node/14235

"Here's my concern that I

Here's my concern that I will now "voice", you're being divisive as hell. You cannot CONTROL people, you can propose constructively alternative approaches for the movement, I don't think anyone will disagree with the movement being reflective. But trying to pick fights with "the confronters"? Are you kidding me? That's just so divisive, and I don't like the way the blogger appears to be running with an "agenda" here to influence people, that’s just so uncharacteristic of this place and very disappointing.

Submitted by ****** on Thu, 03/06/2008"
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I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE BLOGGER APPEARS TO BE RUNNING WITH AN AGENDA HERE TO INFLUENCE PEOPLE

I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE BLOGGER APPEARS TO BE RUNNING WITH AN AGENDA HERE TO INFLUENCE PEOPLE

I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE BLOGGER APPEARS TO BE RUNNING WITH AN AGENDA HERE TO INFLUENCE PEOPLE

!!!!!!

gretavo's picture

meanwhile, in the controlled movement...

Getting The Truth Out: What works?

A billion deception dollars to anyone who can get the pic here posted to the thread above...  :) 

casseia's picture

So who's NOT in the moderation queue over there?

I will happily try to get it posted, but it would be better if someone could just BAM! stick it up there. (I'm moderated.)

Annoymouse's picture

a billion?

i hope you weren't joking, i need the $ :)
http://www.911blogger.com/node/14235#comment-179235

wonder if that's the end of my unmoderated status..

gretavo's picture

a billion deception dollars, yes

in fact it's conveniently in the form of a billion deception dollar note, which I will send your way if you give me your address... :)

I LOVE the nonsensical reply by "Constitutional911" check it out:

" No, it ws NOT BUSH OR THE
" No, it ws NOT BUSH OR THE US GOV'T"?

Wow! That's amazing truth!

Guess Bush did his best sitting pretty reading a book about a Pet Goat when the country was attacked while the Secret Service sat on their hands even though their was an airport nearby and should have evacuated him.

NORAD did their best to stop their planes. There are no air-defenses on site on the Pentagon.

So of course a Boeing jet can easily crash into it. After all the nearest airbase is millions of miles away right?

And why steel-framed concrete buildings collapse into pulverized dust ALL THE TIME.

Especially if a jet crashes into it and jet fuel fires burn for an hour or so. Even when they are designed for jet impact. ESPECIALY when they are designed for jet impact.

That's common knowledge.

Dick Cheney was not where Norman Minneta said he was. No, always believe the VP.

He has NEVER LIED.

Haliburton is a charitable non-profit organization taking care of the homeless and providing free healthcare for ALL, especially Iraq VETS who have the BEST OF HEALTHCARE at Walter Reed.

They never moved to Dubai. Why, they are in town and country nearby, With the HEROES OF KATRINA, BLACKWATER. Our friends.

WTC7? WHAT WTC7?

Mainstream media complicity & coverup? OF COURSE NOT.

Don't be silly. The MSM ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH.

And the EPA. Why of course the air in NYC was perfectly clean. Pulverized dust and abestos is good for your health.

Didn't you know that?

No. Its probably the Russians or China.

Or Maybe 19 guys working for an "EX" CIA GUY from some cave somewhere.

Probably the Vietnamese stole that "missing" 2.3 Trillion dollars.

Pls trust every Congressman, Senator.

AND WORSHIP THE PRESIDENT.

Lyndon Johnson did his best to save the USS Liberty.

Uncle Sam needs you more than ever.

There is nothing greater and holier than Bush & The "US Govt".

OK.

Go back to sleep.

Pay your taxes. The IRS is CONSTITUTIONAL. Just like the PATRIOT ACT.

We will take your guns.

We will keep ours.

This FEMA camp here is good for you.

REX 84 is a new resort paradise.

Enjoy your stay.

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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Submitted by constitutional911 on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 6:39am

Tahooey's picture

thanks, you can owe me

until the exchange rate improves ;)

I threw another comment reply over there, fwiw. 

juandelacruz's picture

Congrats Tahooey! Can I

Congrats Tahooey! Can I borrow some of your $$$? I'm late on my apartment bills.