Hello again Danse, and concerning forgiveness,

Lazlo Toth's picture

I forgive you for your late night, drunken Bakunin-nigger blog, only because I am trying at all times, every day now, to free my heart from the hatred and anger and frustration that assaults it due to the possessing of the information I know about. My friend says that chanting Rabbi Weiss’ name three times really helps, and I will tell you, it does the trick. Or you could chant “Lenny Bruce” three times also. Quite effective. I do not want to hate anybody. I would prefer friendship and understanding over enmity. Isn’t that the kind of car that Jesus or St. Francesco would drive? Hatred and anger are like cancers inside you. They rot your soul. I want no violence and no one to be killed, murdered, or tortured anymore. Why can’t we just hang out at the beach and smoke some herb? It is because of love and compassion for pure human suffering and injustice that I feel this anger and frustration, but I always remember the Lebanese woman in Cana holding her dead child in her arms and screaming at the IDF soldier, “We will not let you turn us into what you have become!” I identify myself as a human being and when my fellow human beings are being unjustly fucked over, it completely pisses me off. You may think this is insane, but I write what I write out of a desire to help the Jewish people. They are as brainwashed as any consumer of modern corporate media is nowadays. I care about the Jewish people, but they need to understand that they are being led by a collective leadership the equivalent of a wolf dressed like a rabbi, and this has been going on now for almost 80 years. Being Jewish and finding out that Israel had a heavy hand in the 9/11 attacks and the illegal invasion of Iraq is a total thrill I can tell you. The elite, Zionist powerbrokers who all claim to speak as the voice of the “Jewish people” are, and always have been, the real “enemies of the Jewish people,” see: 9/11, U.S.S. Liberty, Operation Susannah, etc. This is not just my opinion, this is also an opinion strongly held by many revered, modern Jewish sages and rabbis, i.e. real Jews. Danse, do you know why the Nazis began rounding up the Jews in the 1940s? It wasn’t because the Germans hated Judaism. It was because the European and Palestinian Zionist leadership of the time (1932-1939) proclaimed and published – stated in very specific language – open acts of sedition and treason against the German state and its people. As Rabbi Weissmandl, who worked as a Czech rescue worker for the camps in Eastern Europe, said, “It was the Zionists who brought us to the Holocaust.”

I am now working again on the next part of my article in which, among many things, is told the history of the Zionist leadership in Israel blowing up the S.S. Patria on November 25, 1940 in the harbor at Haifa, killing 252 Jewish immigrants to Palestine from Eastern Europe. The Commission of Inquiry found that the ship had been blown up by the Zionists, specifically the General Staff of the Haganah, who tried to blame the act on the British Mandatory Government of Palestine to get world sympathy for open, unrestricted immigration into Palestine (cf. “false flag operation”). Eighteen years later, one of the participants in the attack, Dr. Herzl Rosenblum, spilled the beans on the whole operation. The Zionist, Haganah guerilla operatives wired the boat at night (just like some night-work that was done on some famous towers I heard tell about once). This is one of the historic characteristics of the Zionist ideology that people, Jews and non-Jews alike, need to understand, and that is that the Zionists have no problem at all with killing a few hundred or thousand of their own if it will somehow advance their “nationalist cause.” On February 24, 1942, they sank another ship, the S.S. Struma, in the middle of the Black Sea. Death toll from timed explosions and drowning: 760 Jewish immigrants on their way to Palestine. Oh happy day! Again, the Zionists tried to blame the British for their own vicious terrorist attack on their own people. Does this remind you of any current events? As I’ve mentioned before, Zionist operatives just love blowing shit up. Perhaps it’s a sexual frustration thing (cf. “the Dancing Israelis” and their Bic lighters). I don’t know. Don’t really care. I just wish they would stop doing it. It’s really bad for the old Jewish PR image. I’m trying to help here. Really.

BTW, did you know that when Bakunin called Africans a bunch of “niggers,” he was shit-faced drunk at the time. So I have forgiven Bakunin too. Commie mahfahkah.

On your comments here, however, I find it quite ironic Danse, that you have chosen to use several techniques that are big favorites with the MSM which employs them on a fairly regular basis. Perhaps you are doing this unconsciously having watched way too much TV.

1) Giving the bloggers here a label such as ZIHOPers, and then explaining to other people on other blogs what this viewpoint called “ZIHOP” is all about does not make us look bad, but it makes you look like a fool. Like most lazy journalists in the MSM nowadays who can’t be bothered to thoroughly research anything, you have discovered on this blog something you could distort and sensationalize, while collecting yet another convenient acronym to singularly define all the ingredients and nuances operating within a complicated and very serious issue in three to five letters of any given alphabet. However, if you had done a minute’s worth of research, you would have found out that the ZIHOP term was something that Casseia came up with on a Saturday morning during her coffee time. She was playing around with the words and meanings attached to the acronym, and then we all started chiming in with different acronyms and what the letters might stand for. In other words, we were just fooling around, having fun, joking around on a Saturday morning. Drunk on coffee. No big deal. We didn’t have a big meeting and decide to establish the official ZIHOP wing of the 9/11 Truth Movement. If we did, I must have missed that meeting. As I remember from the blog (which is still available on WTCDemo for your researching pleasure), it was Casseia who immediately said (on that very morn) that she thought the ZIHOP idea was too limited and confining a term because it was missing other elements that were important to understanding the plot. I agree with her, and I must say that 99.9% of the time she is spot-on correct in her thinking and understanding of things.

So, to sum up: You are promoting what you think we think under an acronym that we were just joking around with on a Saturday morning. This is like the classic scene in “Annie Hall” where Woody Allen and Diane Keaton are standing in line at the movies to buy tickets and Woody is going on and on about what Marshall McLuhan’s philosophy is all about. Behind him in this line is Marshall McLuhan himself who tells Woody, “Sir, you haven’t read a single word I’ve written, have you?”

2) This brings us to the second point:
You are pulling out a variant of the old technique that the foaming detractors of Mearsheimer, Walt, Findley and others often employ, which is to promote the idea that those who are pointing out the obvious untoward influence of Israel and its American Lobby over the executive and legislative branches of the U.S. government are to be labeled as crazed conspiracists who think that “the Jooz control the entire world,” and that “the only evildoers in the whole entire wide world are ‘the Jooz.’” I am well aware of Operation Gladio, etc. and don’t get me started on Suharto, who last time I looked, was not only finally dead, but had never gone to shul once in his life. Gimme a break. We are fairly educated here. We are not idiots. No one here at this blog has ever put forward the nonsensical thesis that “the Jooz control the world.” That is a blatant and dishonest strawman used often by those working inside the media, people who have made the decision to commit conscious treason against their own country every day of their working week, and it is incredibly sad to see you pull this technique out of the old “trick bag.” Wowee.

You also really need to do yourself a favour and read the Mearsheimer-Walt book in its entirety before you comment on it. Merely reading a Wiki entry on Mearsheimer and Walt is not going to cut it. It is a very important book that all Canadians and Americans need to seriously consider and soberly understand. Canadians who think that what happens to the U.S. won’t affect Canada are operating under a highly serious delusion (see: mission to Afghanistan). As far as the particular school of socio-political science that John Mearsheimer or Stephen Walt may or may not belong to, I don’t see how that point has any relevance to the contents and information presented, no matter what the Wiki authors may say. I will tell you though that Mearsheimer and Walt are as brainwashed (or appear so in print) as most people are when it comes to 9/11. (Thanks Harley Guy) They look at U.S. foreign policy as it relates to Israel and the Middle East from the position that 9/11 was Arab blowback from all the years of U.S. support for the Israelis’ constant human rights crimes and real estate theft against the Palestinians and their Arab neighbors (see: The forced evacuations of 80,000 Syrians from their farmlands and homes in the Golan Heights when the IDF seized that part of Syria in 1967. Forced evacuations at gunpoint, sounds just like the Nazis, huh). Mearsheimer and Walt also think, like most college professors who wish to be gainfully employed, that “the world-wide al-Qa’ada terrorist network” is real, and that 19 Arab hijackers rammed planes into the WTC and made the towers fall down. The value of their book however is not so much their personal comments, which are kept to a necessary minimum, but the volume of documented and referenced letters, conversations, documents, meetings, radio broadcasts, and multi-sided international commentary, all which tell the story of Israel and the Israel Lobby both fairly (and I would say they are very, very fair in their assessments) and openly. They pretty much let the chips fall where they may, and let the evidence speak for itself. So trying to disparage the quality of the information and research presented by discussing Mearsheimer and Walt belonging to some school of social research that you read about on Wikipedia is only one step above the old and tired riff, “they are anti-Semites, so everything they say is untrue and sheer nonsense.” This is debate trick #24 – “If you don’t like the message, or want to avoid talking about it, then just attack, or waste time talking about, the messengers,” and don’t mention the 100 pages of references either. This used to work all the time, but now more and more people are catching on. The old, tried and true anti-Semite trick isn’t working anymore either. Too bad, it was a great one while it lasted.

The situation in the Middle East is like the story of the boy who cried wolf. Eventually the townspeople from across the ocean didn’t come to rescue him anymore because they knew the kid was just lying, and he had also attacked the townspeople. This, of course, really pissed them off, and it is at this point in the story, when the kid was all alone, that the wolf came out and finally ate him. When is the Israeli government going to start paying financial reparations to the 80,000 Syrians who were forced from their homes and farmlands on the Golan Heights at gunpoint in 1967? Is the whole Hollywood image of Nazi Germany just a psychological projection of what really happened in Palestine? The IDF calls Hizb-allah “terrorists”? I just got done watching two hours of vicious IDF terrorism in the Occupied Territories on the internets. If you ever have wondered what it is like seeing little Palestinian kids getting their arms broken by Israeli soldiers, it’s all on the internet in full color historical realism. The internet is Israel’s worst nightmare. Media that they can’t control. Videos on the internet, 10 points, expensive New York PR firm, 1 point.

Jewish people! It is time to excommunicate the Zionists from your communities. They want to take you to another Holocaust and turn your Faith into a house of blood and shame. Those who resist the Zionists’ lies and expose their crimes are the real self-loving Jews. We stand in solidarity with our Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist and Atheist brothers and sisters against this BEAST. Join us for Anti-Israeli Apartheid Week. Justice and Peace is coming.

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gretavo's picture

thanks again lazlo, for everything

I am so happy that you decided to help us all down from our 2 minutes hate. :)

You are absolutely right about forgiveness--it is in many ways better for the forgiver than the forgiven, because hate, kind of like evil, is always wafting around and we all partake to some extent of both. and what forgiveness often amounts to is to cease to feel active hatred or even just dislike of a person. So long as there are people that we know we should apologize to there will be those among us who will inhabit varying states of denial about our guilt, complicity, etc. in the mostly inevitable fallout of our actions (or inaction) as individuals within a complex power structure that includes us even if we are unaware and opposed to the actions taken on behalf of that power structure.

We are duty-bound not just to expose the truth but to do so in such a way as there are as few losers as possible. The obvious losers (though even that may be debated) are the perps, whosoever they may be, and anyone who with malicious intent or detached indifference willingly aided them in their crime and its cover-up.

Everyone else should chill out.

The people I am addressing are those who know that no matter how they feel emotionally about something that there are certain principles that one must never under any circumstances violate.

those who understand that "people like us" are not always right. They are those people we know would be on our side if they knew all the facts. Or those who may even be so appalled by the facts that they can't begin to articulate anything approaching an ice breaker.

WE ARE ON THE SAME SIDE

i would hope that this much could be agreed on, no matter how different the minds involved. that as people who would never ourselves resort to violence to resolve a dispute we must act to pre-empt violence in any form and that to do so requires paying close attention to situations with an eye to tamping down rather than exacerbating violence.

what some people dont seem to get is that arguments for peace are not political arguments, they are moral arguments. they have to come from the heart, from a heart that longs for peace, that recoils at the thought of war anywhere on earth or an incarcerated human being.

we love freedom. we love peace. and we love those who do too.

peace will not be granted though, peace must be achieved, just like sobriety (if that's your thing) it begins with you. with letting others in and sharing something sincerely heartfelt with people you never thought you would.

we've been globalizing HOW long and we STILL haven't had a world party?

What's that? A world party for peace?

and at that party we will bring together every young and young at heart person to think of the future and what it will hold if we not begin now to make real changeâ„¢

isn't one of Obama's slogans "Change"?

is Obama telling us to watch Loose Change?

gretavo's picture

Ludwig van Beethoven Ode An Die Freude


Danse's picture

I'm still waiting...(*chirp

I'm still waiting...(*chirp chirp) for you, Lazlo, to drop on by Truthaction, sign up yourself and subject your theories to critical scrutiny. 

Now granted, it's much, much easier to attack personalities and to advance dubious theories in an echo chamber, but any fool with a theory can do as much.

Post your ideas about Zionist master control on truthaction.  Chances are you'll get "learned", so to speak.  Or, might spark an interesting debate.  

:)

Cheers  

Annoymouse's picture

has anyone seen the zionist master control?

i already checked between the cushions of the couch and it wasn't there! Larry Horse??

larry horse's picture

i found it!

it was under the germanic death cult bible of the illuminati.

casseia's picture

So let's see...

His blog was deleted and one by one users have been banned without any explanation. He should have any interest in posting there... why?

Why don't you suggest that the anti-(Arab)Semites over there come register and post here?

larry horse's picture

strawman ship sinking

lay off the chum, danse. come on, this is no way to spark an "interesting debate." your antagonistic behavior belies the spirit behind your films. come back when you're in a better frame of mind...or don't come back at all.

Annoymouse's picture

predictable responses by

predictable responses by various lemmings. Again, if "Lazlo" wishes to debate his Jew-control theory, stop on by Truthaction and put your theories to the test. Won't blame you if you don't. If I propagated your theories I'd be shy too. Echo chambers are comfy :) But if you have the balz, drop on by. :)

Big_D's picture

You've already proven with your ignorant racist rant...

these petty antagonistic taunts, and your weak straw man statements that you have no clue. No one here "only wants Zionist blamed for 9/11", no, dense, that would be the exact opposite of your limited hang-out agenda.

Have fun over there in your circle jerk of treason with the other useful idiots & Shills.

Annoymouse's picture

There's a Zionist under you

There's a Zionist under you bed!!!

Made ya look!

Annoymouse's picture

Carry on. :(

Carry on. :(

Danse's picture

I want Zionists busted for

I want Zionists busted for their role in 911. 

I just don't want Zionists exclusively busted.    

I highly doubt Lazlo has been banned from truthaction.  

Sign up and let's debate.    

gretavo's picture

it's a set up!

seriosuly though, it's reminiscent of those shills we've all seen too much on the internet using well-managed discussion forums with well placed strawmen to knock down. same reason none of us needs to indulge the folks at JREF or SLC, Danse--not worth the trouble. Nothing is stopping the motley crew of users at truth action from expounding at length about how we all are wrong, why don't they?

If you just don't want Zionists exclusively busted then I'm not sure why you think that we would.

inside's picture

if i was lazlo i wouldnt

if i was lazlo i wouldnt want those fucking morons having my IP.

plus with all of us being banned, what would it be 10 against one?? please.. what a joke..

Keenan's picture

Danse, I seem to remember...

that Lazlo's words were posted on TA a few days ago on a thread that you requested be locked, which the mods then locked and then deleted. Jpass was also banned at the same time. I would be interested in finding out why jpass was banned and why you thought it necessary to shut down that thread. I would also like to ask you why you thought censorship was the preferred response to Lazlo's words then, but now you prefer an open debate with Lazlo on TA? It's a bit confusing.

I personally would like to see more dialog and debate and think that Lazlo is very capable of subjecting his theories to scrutiny - at least the theories that are his own and not straw man theories that were put in his mouth.

kate of the kiosk's picture

"...and we have not heard the truth in such a very long time..."

somewhere in this...still don't know how to embed actual vids.

 Lady Michelle Obama's speech in Wilmington Delaware.  Neato, i say.

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkHFfO7hG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjt_qaCPtzM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76oVMtth9l4

keep preaching, Laz and Gretavo, bring it on, bring it on.. it's such good brain, spirit, and soul food! 

 

dicktater's picture

What does Barack Obama's "change" mean?

Kate,

On the right side of a Youtube video page there is a block of code in a box labeled "Embed". Select and copy the entire line of that code and paste it into your comment box here. It will begin and end with the 'object' tag. You may want to copy/paste some sample code into a text editor first and examine it's content to create a familiarity with it's structure. It's not complicated, just tags , parameters, values, URLs, etc.).

What does Barack Obama's "change" mean?

Sorry but, I'm as clueless about what Barack Obama means by "change", at least so far as in anything of substance, as his supporters seem to be.

How much does it matter when it's obvious that Hitlery got the nod a long time ago? I see this as all theatre where Hitlerly and Biraq will ultimately claim to abandon their differences and less than reluctantly embrace one another as some sort of sacrifice that they do "for the good of the nation". Simulated copulation with a fake climax on stage at the Democratic convention.

What happened to the Obama-Clinton smackdown?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections...

Hillary Clinton: A Bilderberg Presidency
European elite back Democratic frontrunner
http://www.oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/hillary_clinton...

If it weren't for Ron Paul's running, Rudely Ghouliani would probably still be in the race. Thank god he's gone. Ann Coulter is doing her part to ensure McCaint's failure. It's the only thing I have ever sort of appreciated her for.

Coulter: I'll campaign for Hillary if McCain is the nominee

And, I keep hearing about a political chameleon, multi-billionaire from New York who may run as an independent who supposedly is willing to spend between $500,000,000 - $1,000,000,000 of his own money to buy the presidency. It may not go that far but, it's probably another step planned to derail Ron Paul's campaign if it were to go third party and further fragment any opposition to the new queen. All I can think of is the We Are Change confrontation on the subway with that sack of dog excrement Bloomberg.

The Difference: Barack Obama & Ron Paul

kate of the kiosk's picture

thanks, before i get to viewing these utubes,

okay, i think i have tried that a couple of times (copying the embed code and pasting into comment box) and all i see

is the code and not the pic. is there something we have to change or disable on our comment boxes?

I have not listened to much from either shillery or obama. I'm actually a Gravel supporter, and may write him in on Tuesday! but she grabbed by ear yesterday while sick on couch and tv surfing (rare)  landing on CSPAN...

if I have no other choice, it will be Obama for me.

I wonder how muslim-americans will vote? .... 

 

dicktater's picture

hey

Like Gretavo said about the Rich Text,

I have Rich Text always disabled and format text manually. But, you may have it enabled.

With Rich text disabled, you do not have WYSIWYG (what you see is wht you get) editing capabilities. When you paste the code into the comment box with Rich Text disabled, you are in basic editing mode and will see only the code. Any additional text that you enter will also just be raw text without the formatting that you normally can apply and see while editing using the Rich Text editor.

If you need to apply attributes to text, you will have to use HTML tags to do so with Rich Text disabled. You also won't see the application any formatting until you can click the preview button under the comment box. Only then will then also see the video player in the preview of your comment.

Hope this helps. Ask if you need more assistance.

kate of the kiosk's picture

part 4


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Whuooo hooo part 6


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Part 5


kate of the kiosk's picture

Thank you, Dicktater and Gretavo!!!!

I do believe she's got it...now not to abuse it!

please excuse my enthusiastic sharing...

out and about now, will read Lazlo later!!!!