Real Truther Says Sayonara to YT and Truthaction

I had really hoped that I was just being paranoid, but it seems pretty clear that the exact same tactics that were used to purge 911blogger.com are being used to similarly clean house at Truthaction.org.
To wit, it involves having users targetted for abusive behavior by other users who are not called on it themselves. When the target is provoked into something less than a sheepish plea for mercy the targeted user is warned and put on "probation" only to be attacked again and again until they give up on trying to stick around.
It's becoming clear that the 9/11 truth movement is being "led" by a clique that uses various methods to enforce its control over what is considered "the 9/11 truth movement." Well, if we can't beat em, I am most certainly not going to join them. Consider RT out of the "9/11 truth movement." RT is now an independent citizen working to inform his fellows of the truth not just about 9/11 but the so-called "9/11 truth movement", the many-headed hydra of ostensible diversity populated by shills and useful idiots.
Hey, I think you're just
Hey, I think you're just misunderstanding the rules. You're allowed to call people anything you want EXCEPT a shill/agent and it applies to everyone. Everyone is treated the same. Well, ok, you're allowed to accuse certain people of being a shill, but only if they are Mega Disinfo shills and not subtle disinfo shills. Er, actually you may be allowed to accuse the mega disinfo shills of being shills only AFTER there is a consensus by Arabesque, Victronix, and Col. Jenny Sparks, or certain name brand truthers who have proven...to other designated name brand truthers...that they have contributed sufficiently to the movement. Oh, wait, one more thing: "Only mods have the information to confirm a shill, and even then..." but not to worry, imgstacke and Col. Jenny are on top of it, they'll let you know when it's been confirmed. That's fair, isn't it?Ok, let's start over:
Rules of the 9/11 Truth movement:
1) No one is allowed to accuse a "truther" of being a shill/agent/etc., who is advancing positions in SUPPORT of various parts of the OCT or who engages in attacking other truthers who they disagree with.
2) It is encouraged to accuse a "truther" of being a shill/etc., who is advancing positions allegedly in support of SKEPTICISM of the OCT.
3) However, one must first wait for the consensus by self designated truthers such as certain name-brand "truthers" who have proven (to themselves) to have contributed sufficiently to the movement.
4) A posse consisting of Jim Hoffman, Victronix, Arabesque, and Col. Jenny Sparks will enforce the above policies. If need be, additional online truthers can sign up and join with the posse to confirm a consensus.
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man am i glad to see you!
I know you and RT are the same person, Keenan, but it's nice that you can both sympathize in any case. As many know, RT is also me, so that makes three of us who now are completely and utterly fed up with "9/11 Truth Movement" BS.
You know what though? I'm kind of an asshole by nature and it's really been hard to not really go off on some of these shills. OK maybe that's just the anger talking, whatever.
Sigh.
One Goal Of The billdouglas Fiasco
One of the main themes of the Shell Game Festival on 911Blogger.com was...
NAME BOMBS.
It was a name dropping orgy. 911Blogger is trying to dictate the message and the messengers.
What is funny is that it seems to be failing. Bill Douglas was literally preaching an alternate reality on how his little campaign played out.
Some how he didn't notice the many voices (and votes!)asking him to stfu because he was indeed being rude.
And where are those heavey weights like Reprehensor, GeorgeWashington, SomeBigGuy?
Busy writing their own support articles for BillDouglas and the Shell Game. They don't even acknowledge the discontent with certain issues and the way they are being handled by the head hanchos...they even pretend it's not there.
anyone checked out the Shill Game page on Amazon?
I closed my account there after they censored me on their forums else I'd definitely put in my 2 cents...
I caught on very quickly over there
I'm not going to name any names, but there are certain individuals who are clearly playing "truth police". It's hard to know if there is a clear and unified objective, or what it may be, but it is clear that certain people are interested in promulgating their version of "Truth" which is not fully consistent with that corresponding to physical reality.
nevaeH oT yawriatS
The Memory Hole Claims Another Victim
I know that a couple other people who are users here noticed, along with me, that Col. Jenny had posted a video denouncing disinfo agents over at truthaction last night. This video was made at her behest and under her direction. It's a showcase of the usual suspects and then, at the very end... RT! in clips from RT's own "A Day in the Life of Real Truther" as well as a screenshot of our site and the blog advertising our "bling." (Revealingly, the scene she chose to lift from RT's video is NOT the one that shows an interested crowd around his display of bruce1337's great posters in Harvard Square.)
I just felt sick when I saw this last night. As many of you know, Jenny had been a personal, real life friend of mine for a time. I've watched her spiral downward into this bizarre online caricature of herself, the painfully fake British affectation keeping pace with the increasingly authoritarian "Disinfo Superhero" shtick, and felt both pity and anger.
Anyhoo, I commented today, after sleeping on it. A couple of other WTCD users did too, including inside and Elmo. YT dropped by to castigate inside for having multiple user ids (which is just VERY ironic for a number of reasons) because he and Elmo are married and use the same computer to log on. P45 suggested to Jenny that "wanker" is not really the word she wanted to use (saying that if he went out and used it, he'd be carrying his teeth home in his pocket.) Jenny actually ARGUED with him about British slang, at which point I didn't know whether to laugh or to cry.
I posted RT's video, noting that it was the source of some of Jenny's material and that it was an upbeat, inspirational Truthing video, as well as a link to bruce's posters.
Anyway, when I checked back late this afternoon, it was gone. The whole thread. Poof! Like it had never been there.
I think that's bullshit.
Bullshit? check.
Aye, the red mist descended upon me, little feckin wonder.Â
My anger was originally directed at YT for allowing it to stay posted. Give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he never watched the whole thing, but I didnt see the public scolding that others recieve.
Truthaction is about, I thought, encouraging ordinary, conscience driven people to hit the streets. Send in pics and vids of what you did folks, but dont have an opinion or some jumped up little Hitler will stick you in a vid with Haupt and the gang, you'll fit right in!
Problem for Col Bogus and her gang is they are all chiefs and no Indians.
W T F ?
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Yeah, right?
If you have a minute, check out 'The Portland Thread' over there. It got started when 'Adam' started yapping at me because I was asking people to STFU with their insults directed at RT. Soon, Jenny Sparks was weighing in, along with her 'handler' Victronix. So YT split the thread and now there is a whole thread about what a bitch I am (in the opinion of a guy I met for all of ONE HOUR in November) and how my activities last fall, which I described on the site, didn't count as "9/11 Truth" because they were really "anti-war."
I was doing a nice job of ignoring it and letting the thread die until Victronix came by and revived it.
What qualifies Victronix to make such "observations"?
Was Victronix there in person? How the hell can she claim that Adam's characterization "seems to about wrap it up"? I think someone needs to call her out on that petty and meanspirited crap.
Ok, checked.
Well...what can I say? Leave dem nagging idgits alone, maybe?
Should 911B&Truthaction Be Promoting Anti-Arab/Muslim Blimp TV?
Sorry YT, but I have to ask... Is this:
New US CurrencyÂ
really so funny that you would ignore the fact that it is put out by the very worst of the worst? People who simultaneously denounce the evil right wing American government while joyfully denying the truth about 9/11 and using their perceived progressive values as a shield for promoting the Islamofascist myth?
Here's one of their top videos from 2007:
http://blimptv.blogspot.com/2007/12/national-lampoons-72-virgins.html
OMG that is SO funny, huh? But hey, they're cool, just making fun of evil arab muslims, who after all WERE guilty of 9/11, even though it was Bush's incompetence that allowed them to murder our fellow citizens!
But according to BlimpTV, the biggest threat right now comes from the evil right wing, and we should thank our lucky stars every day for the existence of heroes like Bill Maher, Eric Alterman, and so many other liberals!
http://blimptv.blogspot.com/2007/11/lapdogs-of-corporate-press_21.html
What kind of truther promotes such a site for a cheap laugh, without any kind of disclaimer even? Come on, YT, giving shills the run of your forum is one thing, but driving traffic to a gatekeeper site without so much as "I wish they wouldn't be so Islamophobic?"
oh wait... I get it...
Must have been a memo... :)
http://www.911blogger.com/node/13370
For the record, that thread about humor and 9/11 on 911Blogger? May I suggest that humor is NOT the best way to get people to take 9/11 truth seriously? Wait-Gret--aren't you the one who brings out the Dancing Israelis to comment on your site all too often? Touché, but this site caters to people who already know about 9/11 and the humor is actually designed to pique interest in lesser known angles of the events. Where, I ask, is the outrage over offending victims' families that would have been directed last summer at anyone posting a video featuring dumb wisecracks over scenes from United 93?
New mods just unveiled at TruthAction
A new posting from YT states:
I'm not going to be moderating the forum - I have to focus on organizing.
If you have a problem with something on the forum, contact chrisc or siddhartha through PM.
I will try to get a formal policy posting up by the end of the week.
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Question: What do chrisc and siddhartha have in common?
Bonus Question: Will the time of my inevitable banning from TruthAction be counted in hours or days from now?
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Holy shit.
Um, they're both assholes? That's it for me -- I'm done with that site. See the letter I received in the Zeitgeist thread.
casseia says 'adios truefaction'
Actually they banned me... ha! That's the second time I've ever been banned from a site -- the first time was Gold's YBBS.
reason?
What was the reason?
I was tossed back into the 'moderated' bin at blogger without an explanation from anyone. How shady is that?
Are these people all anonymous? Arabesque? SomeBigGuy? GeorgeWashington?
I once asked SomeBigGuy why the anonymity and said that I could easily find out who he and others were with google...but I couldn't.
No communication at all...
I just can't log in. It was probably YT and based more on the "you SUCK and you've never thanked me" emotional crap than an attempt to exclude my political opinions -- who knows.
HAHAH!!! i just got my 3rd
HAHAH!!! i just got my 3rd banning from this shill run site.. http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showforum=127 if you want a laugh just look for any post by "robert the liberal". i was banned for asking him if he thought anyone was buying his shit.. WeAreChange=Danger to America, Stalkers need to be arrested. <
wear the mark of the ban hammer like a badge of pride
a battle scar galactica for truth!
And now that I am banned,
cretins like Adam1 have the run of the place to post things like this:
I don't care if your definition of the word "zionism" is different. 99.9% of Americans are happy with Merriam-Webster's treatment of the English language spoken in the US.
I don't know a single person of Jewish heritage that does not believe in the existence of the nation of Israel in one form or another. Believing in the existence of the nation of Israel is not agreeing with one set of borders or another, or statement on current treatment of Palestinians, or agreement with how Israel came in to existence. It's just believing the nation of Israel ought to exist. Merriam-Webster says anyone who believes in the existence of the nation of Israel is a Zionist. That means by definition Merriam Webster defines all people of Jewish origin as Zionists.
That means, in the US, when you say "Zionists do this or that," according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, you are saying "All Jews do this or that"
That means you need to stop using the word "Zionists." Or you're gonna keep on getting tossed out of places. People are almost as fed up about arguments over the word "zionist" as they are white guys who demand the right to use the n-word.
There's lots of ways you can refer to those people who political beliefs in regards to Israel you disagree with. The most appropriate would be "Likud Party supporter." It's been the Likud Party of Israel that has been responsible for the vast majority of the outrages committed by Israeli political and military entities.
Evidently, Adam has had no exposure to Neturei Karta or any of the other principled Jews who repudiate the existence of an apartheid state in their name.
Adam1
is unfortunately a misguided soul, or worse, a loser. take a wild guess which way i'm leaning. wear the ban loudly.
Adam1 = Beyond Extreme Cluelessness
I've been increasingly stunned and speechless with Adam's increasingly extreme level of cluelessness he's been displaying. I really can't remember such an extreme example. It's to the point that we really need a new word in the dictionary for someone who is this far beyond extreme cluenessness. Larry, casseia, siince you 2 are the resident experts on creating new words, perhaps you can help with this...
thanks RT, um, ... i mean Keenan
all you Adam1 fans, do not despair. I have taken this request under advisement. I reserve the right to dismantle the IRS if all else fails. RONPAULINO'12
first man syndrome
Adam1 = a dumb one
Have we left no one at Truefaction? Have all the castaways in effect, if not intent, said "arrivederci" to the colorless forum of coordinated action? As empowering as our freedom is, how do we deal with the fact that we have left the farm in the hands of Monsanto?
Keenan says Auf Wiedersehen to TrueFaction
Or, more specifically, TrueFaction says Auf Wiedersehen to Keenan, since I was apparently banned today.
Like Casseia, no communication. I haven't posted anything today at TrueFaction, so I guess it was a "pre-emptive" action.
For those who answered "hours" for my Bonus Question - DING DING DING DING DING DING DING! You were correct!
wtf
they banned me too.. not that i care... i guess it for hanging out here too much..
Edit: Out of curiosity, who is this? Another person who was hanging out here too much?
fucking losers
they banned me too.. not that i care... i guess it for hanging out here too much..
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