Sibel Edmonds goes on media (Times Online-UK) with some revelations

Hi guys, fyi this was just posted at 911B. Sibel first talked to T-Online, then the news was echoed in Huff-Post (that nearly airtight - ignore 9-11 - website).
 Low visibility Huff Post echo article
Have a good snack and don't choke on the nasty LIHOPy stuff they make these out of. I would pour in a whole shaker of salt before I swallow any of this. additional related articles
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I just had to post this very
I just had to post this very informed comment at Brad's Blog. The last part is his speculation on why this is happening. The implications are frightening.
To Michael of Brad Blog sorry I stole your post.
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COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
... Michael said on 1/6/2008 @ 7:44 am PT...
Let me pass this along:
My problem with this article is, that it is published in The Sunday Times, which is one of the worst war advocate and profiteer Murdoch's propaganda papers. 'The Sunday Times' and propaganda-media owner Rupert Murdoch, have for as long as is known cooperated with the CIA/Mossad, the UK's MI5 and MI6 and the rest of the spooks.
Murdoch's papers write about the 9/11 massacre, but still - contrary to the truth - stick to the official US/UK version and brainwashing: Osama's bin Laden's ragheads did it.
Nothing in those pro-war papers gets published - and certainly not this kind of 'information' in those outlets - that isn't aimed at certain groups. If you check the source, you'll see that Murdoch is a disinformation pest for mankind.
So, I'm inclined to say that @S. Balu is quite correct, in seeing the item as 'CIA/Mossad propaganda'.
In reality it was as Tony S. writes: "The CIA pressed Dutch govt. not to interfear, (this must be a Freudian slip... -HR) claiming they were after more suspects surrounding Khan.
That's how he got away with the stolen nuclear secrets. This was publicly stated by Ruud Lubbers, former Dutch Prime Minister a couple of years ago."
And Lubbers - who also was the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) - stated clearly that the CIA and its managers are guilty of nuclear proliferation. - Url.: xxxx
Now: we know that Sibel Edmunds has a unique 'gag order' as 'The Sunday Times' in this article describes. And that this 'gag order' is global and until further notice by the US/UK junta's henchmen: "The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations."
So it's logical to ask why Sibel Edmunds now is published worldwide, and - the gag order doesn't count here - is allowed to be quoted by Murdoch's paper and read by everybody?
Why, who and on what level was 'permission' given for this in the US and decided to publish this about the nuke proliferation?
Concerning Sibel Edmunds, the use which is made of her and to what she now is said to have heard and seen: ''Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.
The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain’s Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.'' [end excerpt]
According to this not to be trusted article: "Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan’s nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea."
Meaning: whom can we blame for the next - probably nuclear - 'false flag' operation? Those "infiltrated foreign states seeking nuclear secrets"?
We all know that the Pakistani 'spooky thugs' from ISI, are the 'little brothers' of the CIA/Mossad, trained and many times paid by them, and get most of their orders from them. There are small rogue groups too, and those are not only dangerous but can be used to set up 'black ops'.
So the one to blame - like the stop of the Dakar rally - xxxx - is again the fictitious 'al Qaeda' and the dead Osama bin Laden, just referring to the timeline here:
"2001 - Weeks before 9/11, Khan’s aides meet Osama Bin Laden to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device."
The drumbeat in the major media now will be: and the rogue states got 'm!
Original article in Murdoch's propaganda paper 'The Sunday Times' - xxxx
This is a world of smoke and mirrors, but, as the old Sahrahoui said:
"Never drink from a well you don't know."
yea I've been hammering it out
Over at 911Blogger with a few users.
Sibel doesn't mention 9/11 Truth on her website, she claims to have boxes of documents that say 'something' that might be relative to 9/11 and I'm assuming this has something to do with Randy Glass, Pakistan General Mahmood, the ISI, Bin Laden....and various other LHIOP players.
The bottom line is 'someone wired those buildings'. We can talk about spooky shit all day long and have sekrit hearings and un-classified reports...form the same criminals who gave us the previous reports on 9/11.
What I want to know is "Who had access to these buildings".
It's a simple and obvious question in these circumstances.
Hehe, they must think people
Hehe, they must think people are so stupid that if they cannot sell Osama Bin Did It home made videos, they can just repackage him with a slicker movie co-starring the pretty Sibel Edmonds and close the deal. Hahaha!
Nobody is buying it, right?
Speak Sibel...Speak!
Maybe sales don't matter? The illusion of something for sale will serve the purpose fine.
I was thinking about this the other day...
Sibel's case has been around for years. Since 2002 or before. Just like the "Kucinich limited hearing into 2 limited aspects of the 9/11..."...we end up just waiting on Sibel or waiting on Kucinich...or maybe Ron Paul will get elected...then he'll tell everyone what he REALLY thinks about 911 huh?
So between waiting on Kucinich, waiting for Ron Paul to stop 'pretending' he believes the official 911 theory, waiting on Sibel to find that perfect main stream rag that will adopt her so she can tell us who got the nukes, but nothing is happening.
Figuratively...I'm not actually waiting for Sibel to Speak. I was reading old comments on 911blogger the other day and wtcdemolition members tend to have a thing for being right on issues like these.
I think time is the best weapon against disinfo like this...(if I'm write and it's just slow bleed crap to waste our time and energy). The shit has to be revised with time.
Take the 100K Wire transfer for example...they are having a tough time revising that shit because the Times Of India, the original and only source claiming 'Gen. Mahmood ordered Saiid Sheikh..." has actually distanced itself from this claim by printing contradiction information on the subject.
So I can't imagine how Jon Gold can seriously debate a topic with one news article from 2001. It was funny, the other day he dug up some copy n' paste blurb and said "doesn't this mean I have to sources now?'
AHAHAH you admit it! You always had one source.
Anyway, I'm just rambling on now.
Good night.
the usual 9/11 denying suspects rally around the Sibel Showâ„¢
and we thought the writers were all on strike! Here's Justin "I just made my headshot more mainstream-friendly" Raimondo:
Nukes, Spooks, & the Specter of 9/11: J. Raimondo - Antiwar.com
And check these out too:
LIHOP WATCH - or Understanding What is to Come
to trace this narrative back to last summer and
Insurance Groups Seek To Sue Saudi Arabia, Others for Attacks - New York Sun
for another current angle...
The last sentence from the
The last sentence from the Raimondo article may be the clue to what this is all about:
"...If a nuke ever goes off in an American city, it will probably have been stolen from our own arsenal – once the American people wake up to that scary fact, the rest will follow automatically."
I hope this is just a scare tactic and they (Zionist-Neocon cabal) don't actually plan to do this.
we're entering a very dangerous time I think
They know they're going to be exposed if they do nothing, so look out for some serious (most likely faux) shit going down. I have a bad feeling that the Bhutto "assassination" was just a dress rehearsal for some bigger "assassination". I wouldn't put it past our public myth weavers to stage something on Dubya's upcoming trip to the Middle East. "al Qaeda" has apparently released a video calling for violence.
The signs do seem to point to something in the offing, and if it is indeed going to involve a nuclear bomb going off or a staged (or god forbid real) assassination of someone people would actually care about then we have to be ready to stand firmly against whatever the spin then becomes. We have to be ready to be on message, in other words, and have zero tolerance for any BS from shills or fake truthers.
-gret
i imagined that the Bhutto
i imagined that the Bhutto assassination could be a prototype for the american election next year - democratic nominee gets offed (a woman or a black man, easy to blame on a patsy!) and then what - i think elections would be suspended at the least.
but man, letting the imagination run wild is just scary; there are a lot of things out there to fuel it. all we can ever do is keep moving forward as best we can. Although it seems to me that mainstream america, the public at large, is lost. i fear they will never ever look away from their corporate spoon fed brain control other than to sneer in derision at us. Is it all too clear, we're on our own?
nuke attack
"all we can ever do is keep moving forward as best we can."
I'm working with some people to create a sustainability network of people in my area who each supply something different to the group. For example, I grow carrots and you grow cabbages. I don't need all 100 cabbages so we do a swap.
What do you do? Construction? Good my roof is leaking...are you hungry?
Good luck everyone. Make contacts. As much as I'd like to think that these crazy fuckers don't have the balls to do something THAT big...I still prepare for the worst in a sensible sort of way.
Funny you should mention that Gretavo.
About two weeks ago, a friend of mine said he had read that Bush was going on a big Israel visit in mid January, and he started on this whole scenario about what does this really mean, and what if Israeli intelligence pops Bush during his visit and Iranians or “Syrians under the influence of Iran†are blamed? That would, of course, put Cheney and his AIPAC controllers in the White House driver’s seat, and yeehaww, we’re off to nukin’ Iran for Israel. That battle fleet is still sitting out in the Persian Gulf waiting for the green light from Herz, uh, Washington. “Screw the NIE, we don’t give a goddamn if the Eyerainians don’t have nukes,†and then the eugenicists, like Kissinger, of course, will begin their sick little happy radiation party. Whatever my friend may think and fear, I would put my money more on the scenario that GWB—Israel’s puppet, patsy American president—is going to Israel to be debriefed by “The Leadership†about what is going to go down with the Iran situation. And the “play ball with us or get assassinated†threat could always be brought to the table as an effective negotiating point. I read somewhere that when the recent NIE report came out, Israeli leaders accused Bush of treason. Treason against whom? Israel? Most probably.
I am beginning to wonder if Bush is perhaps an unwilling, controlled, and threatened patsy president, and that his own Vice President, Dick “the greatest friend that AIPAC ever had†Cheney is Dubya’s controller or ‘minder’. It is a fairly well established fact that control of U.S. foreign policy direction has been almost completely hijacked by “The Lobby†and the Isra-Amero Zionist cartel, and I am sure that the Israeli spy nest known as AIPAC-ADL has something, or many things, very incriminating on Bush and other Bush family members. That’s how they roll. And I do believe that there may be something to the reported “Angel is next†story. The struggle and sometimes seemingly real resentment over control and direction of U.S. foreign policy between GW Bush and Israel is described by Mearsheimer-Walt at the beginning of Part Two of the “Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.†It seems Bush and Israel were not as tight and comfy with each other as the MSM would have us believe. There were times when Ariel “Jabba the Hut†Sharon had to whip that uppity little Texas boy into shape. “Whatta ya mean you’re the president of the United States? We own your ass, muthafucka. Remember the photos and the video tapes?â€
Imagine that with the cooperation of inside moles within the U.S. government and civilian spheres of domestic influence, a “friendly,†“allied†foreign military-intelligence agency was able to effortlessly plan and stage a huge, black-op-psy-op-false flag terror operation, blame it on the so-called regional “enemies†of this foreign power, and then get the U.S. to carry out this foreign power’s decades-long plan of Middle East colonial resource control (see: Mosul-to-Haifa pipeline project), accompanied by the Semitic genocide of the Arab peoples. This little foreign country would not only be able to get away with this large and vicious attack against “a friend and overly generous supporter,†but due to its supporters’ highly placed ownership and management control over 99% of the domestic media (see: MSM org. charts), as well as over key members of the U.S. Congress, the Senate, the Justice Department, the electronic output of the U.S. electoral system, and the Homeland Security Department, no one will say a word about it, even though many know who did it and who was involved in history’s biggest false flag terror operation. And best of all, for these treasonous perpetrators – if the puppet president actually decides to stand up and defend his country and people against the nation’s very real ‘friendly’ foreign and domestically lodged enemies by telling the truth about 9/11, and he thereby makes the moral decision to not go along with their plans, the perpetrators will simply take him out like their predecessors did to JFK, and they could do it a lot easier now, because they now have offices right inside the White House, and they can place threatening calls to the U.S. president on his Air Force One phone, or blow up buildings around the U.S. anytime they want, because they got everybody looking for Arabs and Arab “sleeper cells,†when it has been “our friends†the Israelis and their Israeli-American, fifth column moles all along – and I am not talking about all Jews or all Israelis, calm down now. We are talking about 350-400 people here, tops – But you can’t talk about any of this because that would be “anti-Semitic†and “racist,†even though the Jews are not “a race,†and most modern Jews are not “Semitic†either. It’s a genius of a scam, though, I’ll give ‘em that.
How do you think it is possible in such a highly charged and ‘PC sensitive’ political atmosphere as we have had since 2001, for a major film company to release a film like “Death of a President,†where George W. Bush is shown being assassinated? Psychopathic criminals always like to play with their victims and show you what they are going to do. They are braggarts, and movies seem to be a preferred vehicle for this type of communication lately. To be honest, I actually hope Bush is not assassinated by the fucking Israelis during his trip to the belly of the Beast, for after such a false flag political assassination, a Cheney Presidency, however short, would be the absolute end of America. I do feel that GW will be getting a little talking to with regards to what Israel wants him to do for them over the issue of Iran and its (non-existent) nuclear weapons program.
Does it make proud and patriotic Americans angry at all to know that their president, whether they like him or not, is being threatened, controlled and lectured to by the leaders of a lying, little shit country like Israel, and that when the murderous, psychopathic, sub-human leadership of that little country doesn’t get its way, it kicks its little feet and threatens, through the mouth of the Mossad director of US DHS, to launch more false flag operations against the American public and the rest of the world? I think that 2008 should be the year that the whole world – the Bush family included – should stand up for dignity and morality and honesty, to be brave, and to Just Start Saying No To Israel! No More Lying, Stealing, and Murdering in the Name of Judaism! (How about it? Give it a rest.) They have had their way for far too long, and now it is time for them to fuck off, stop lying to the world, stop killing people, and acting like a bunch of Nazi thugs. The Nazis had forced expulsions. The Zionists had/have forced expulsions. What’s the big fucking difference? The IDF soldiers are real brave fellows when they are taking on helpless women, children, and unarmed families. Sixty years of ZioNazism is enough. And I want them to go to upstate New York and tell Rabbi Beck that they are sorry that they burned his house and library to ashes, and they should kiss his feet and beg for forgiveness too.
Final word, and I hope I’m wrong: If the Israelis go more nuts than they already are, and if Bush is assassinated in Israel, and the perpetrators are then passed off as people under the influence of Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Hamas, Hizb-Allah, or “The Toilet†(al-Qa’ada), under the Quija Board leadership of “Shaykh Bin Laid in Da Ground,†then you can probably bet your bottom dollar that it was another Mossad job where Bush hits his head on the sunroof or something. Will the Saudi kingdom attack Israel to avenge the murdered son of Poppy Bush? Probably not.
Good Luck to All. May God or Somebody Somewhere Help Us.
Just Say No to Israel!/Where's Leland?
this is excellent, Lazlo. you do so help to sustain my beliefs. I can use some of this when talking truth to the
die-hard Bush-supporting Republican "patriots" in my family.
by the way, sorry about the jab reference to Gere's involvement in Tibetan justice (in reference to the silence on Palestinian justice)...given your embrace of Buddhism, etc.
the fact that it has been a fashionable cause does not detract from it being a just cause.
blessings, k
Where's Leland when we need him? Come on over Leland!
Kos The Rag
I thought we boycotted Daily Kos because they practically outlawed discussion of 911 Truth? At least that is what I did about oh....2 years ago...
But I guess Sibel makes an appearance and the truthers run to the hog troff for their fixin' of LIHIOPSLOP.
Funny how quickly we forget these things when Sibel is around.
New Sibel theory
I have a theory on what is happening with Sibel Edmonds. It is speculative so take it with a grain of salt.
What if Sibel was intended all along to become a whistle blower. I somehow find it odd that a new recruit would be given sensitive info to translate, then have the door shut on her when she reports said conversations. Perhaps she is a pawn in a black mail scam.
Being new and idealistic, Sibel could have been selected to hear tapes to generate damning evidence against certain personalities - conversations implicating them in criminal activity (at other times she may have been fed misinformation). Having planted that info in her, she is then given a gag order to keep it bottled up for blackmail. The puppet masters can then approach the target and demand whatever they want.
If at some point the target persons refuse to give what the puppet masters request, they open the faucet holding back Sibel and publish a little bit of what she knows in one of their own Murdoch controlled papers. The target feels the heat and decides to deliver on the goods requested.
plausible for sure
I think she knows what she's doing though. And yes, isn't it interesting that it's a Murdoch publication currently giving her story play...
Thinking about it, it is
Thinking about it, it is much easier to run the whole thing if she was in on it and was just playing whistle blower.
If she was a real whistle blower, I think she would have tried harder to spill the beans earlier, and probably would have moved out of the US for her safety.
Very plausible.
Very plausible. I can't say whether she genuinely believes she's a whistleblower. It's all limited hang-out garbage. Some facts are a little too convenient for Israel. Pinning everything on Pakistan and Turkey. If Sibel had discovered anything real, then she'd be dead ('suicided') by now. And Murdoch chooses to break the story? Really.
I think that the threat of a nuclear false-flag attack in the US if Georgie doesn't attack Iran, as outlined by Lazio, is very real. It won't be LA, because they have to spin the story. Maybe Chicago, St. Louis, Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh. Some city in the heartland.
It's also very real that our dictator could be killed on his Middle East trip, putting Dead-eye Dick in charge. Perfect excuse for martial law, too. Well, the Senate is about to pass the "homegrown terrorism" (thought-crimes) bill, so the timing is perfect. And the detention centers are just waiting for us.
I just gave up on Ron Paul -- all the caucases looked rigged (the vote counting), and I expect the same in NH today. Even if he got elected, I doubt he'd live to put on his tux for the inaugural ball. My hubby thinks he's a fake, too, based on his non-commitment to 9/11 truth.
So how do we start a real revolution?
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how do we start a real
how do we start a real revolution? well, I'm only down with revolutions of the mind and spirit. violent resistance plays right into the hands of those who want people to fear the truth. to quote Lennon, but if you're talkin bout destruction, don't you know that you can count me out... if we get to the point where there is a crackdown on innocent people like truthers, then we've pretty much failed. i dont think it will happen mind you, but a good way to make sure is to NOT call for "revolution" without making absolutely clear that one is not talking about it in the "French" sense... :)
I'm going to have to go with Gandhi, Jesus, and Obiwan Kinobi on this. You wanna kill me? Go ahead, make me stronger in death than i could possibly have been in life.
Yes, i didn't mean violent
revolution!
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thanks for clarifying
i have it on good authority that the Simon Wiesenthal Center is monitoring us in the public interest! ;)
Hunker Down
I second the request for non-violence. For the sake of longevity...I'm much more effective in non-violent and non-life threatening situations.
Speaking of revolution...I have come to the conclusion that it's time to hunker down for the long haul. A culture is being developed and I'll be damned if I'm going to stand by and let a phony 911 Truth movement define the culture of 911 Truth.
We might not see the fruits of our labor for decades but if we truly believe we are doing the right thing...then the fruit doesn't matter...plus it's fun and you meet really cool people.
We'll probably all end up giving interviews in 50 years when the official conspiracy theory about 19 Evil Muslims is placed on the shelf with Flat Earth theory.
Then again...maybe we won't.
this goes well with Gretavo's recent comment
I've considered this also. Running with Gretavo's recent comment about the obvious need for the perps to have a 'fake truth movement' pre-set up, this would make sense.
And also, someone else posted something recently that fits in here and also echoes something I posted on 911 Blogger when the recent Sibel Fest starting going down.
That is...what would disinfo look like? For sure it exists...would it look like this? Or that over there? Or how about this narrative over here? Does it look like disinfo?
A sensible request often over-looked by those 'main stream' truthers unless it's about no planes or space beams.