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Another tidbit o' data
The SaiGirl, aka ShillGirl, one species among the floating mass of Mega Disinfo Krill, is over at the apartment going mano a mano with book supporters -- thus showing us all how RIGHTEOUS they are and how sucky anyone who thinks they're full of shit is.
thanks for noticing that!
It is SO FUCKING FUNNY watching this little scene acted out as if people didn't understand that it's exactly as you put it. It's the Wizard of Oz bit once the jig is up "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" or as Sinead sang--through their own words they will be exposed, they've got a severe case of the emperor's new clothes. No planers are like the "al Qaeda" of the truth movement--speaking of, has Onico bin Haupten come out with any videotaped ultimatums lately?
Onico bin Haupten
That's very good. A cymbal crash for the G man.
Well, I had it handy....
There are many people opposing the book
Not just SaiGirl. I'm disappointed to hear you spreading the "disinfo" line - it does more harm than good. Ignore her if you disagree.
Ningen
Hey Ningen,
I'm opposing the book, too -- that wasn't my point. Maybe you've had interactions with SaiGirl that were genuine -- I've only ever seen her play the role of Mega Disinfo Krill, by which I mean not so much that she IS disinfo but that she plays it on the high seas -- er, on tee vee -- er, on the internet -- to make others look legit. In my experience, she comes 'round when it's time to make other people look sane and righteous by comparison.
Hey Casseia
All my interactions with SaiGirl are available online. I have no reason to believe she is not genuine. Her appearance at 9/11 Blogger about this book seems in line with the views of most no planers -- everything but no planes is a limited hangout and people not taking that line are deluded or deluders. I don't think that is a good way to deal with people, but I also don't think it is good to call people disinfo because thsy believe something you don't.
it's not because they believe soemthing we don't
it's because they pretend to believe in stupid crap as both a means to make the movement look bad to the public AND for limited hangout lihop shills to look good to newbies in the movement. AND to make "a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon" and "no plane hit building 7" sound like lies. sorry Ningen, but I for one (I think Cass for two, and a bunch of others for three, four, etc.) just aren't buying what you're trying to sell here. There comes a point (like when someone is kicking you repeatedly in the nuts) when intolerance becomes a good thing. i'm terribly sorry if we are indeed the deluded ones and it's true that planes were edited into every single video that was taken that morning. boy will we feel dumb after we expose the truth and it turns out the group of freakshows collectively identifying as "no-planers" or "videofakerists" were right all along. and let me tell you I'll be the first one to apologize to Dov Zakheim for speculating that his remote hijacking technology might have been used on 9/11. Just like I will apologize to Lucky Larry when it is made clear that he didn't really rake in a cool profit by signing a piece of paper six weeks before the mass murder of 2000 human beings.
You know who's into unity? The lihop limited hangout crowd. They should unite with the no-plane mega disinfo shills and leave the rest of us (honest folk) the fuck alone thank you very much.
Lookie! I just got this message from Bill Douglas through MeetUp
"The Shell Game," from NY Times Best Selling Author - Sparks
9/11 Truth Controversy, Lights Fire in Publishing Industry!
http://www.opednews.com
Â
?. . . they [the majority of Americans] shall come to realize
what I now realize? that the 9/11 Truth Movement are the real
patriots in 21st century America!"
-- Steve Alten, New York Times Best Selling Novelist (author of
?The Shell Game?)Â
Commercial fiction and 9/11 truth have formed a strange
marriage, and a mutually beneficial relationship. The original
40,000 book print run of ?The Shell Game? is almost sold out
even before the book has even hit the bookstores. A big part
of that success may be from the growing support of the 9/11
truth community who has come to largely enthusiastically
realize, although for a few some times begrudgingly, that ?The
Shell Game? will, in the end, help draw a much larger audienceÂ
to the 9/11 truth movement.Â
Using fiction to fight for factual truth, was a stretch for
some 9/11 activists, but the tide is quickly changing. For
example, within one day, one prominent 9/11 truth activist went
from condemning use of ?The Shell Game? as a 9/11 truth
spreading tool, . . . to wholly and enthusiastically endorsing
it to help open the public mind to 9/11 truth. This is a
growing pattern. The more 9/11 truth activists learn about
this upcoming blockbuster book, the more excited they become.
?I?m changing my vote to Thumbs Up on Shell Game . . .? said
the above activist.
What had changed his mind was that when he?d only read clips of
the novel he saw a neo-con demonization-of-Arabs perspective
that he feared because it fell into line with the corporate
media propaganda that has deceived Americans into two illegal
wars.Â
HOWEVER, as he learned more about ?The Shell Game,? he realized
that the author begins the novel from the neo-con perspective,
and from the perspective of the average citizen spoon fed a
distorted reality by corporate media daily. THEN, the novel
proceeds to dis-assemble that ?reality? taking the reader on a
journey that shows the ugly underbelly of false flag terrorism,
diminishing civil and human rights, and the lies that led into
past wars, and portend to lead us all into future wars.
Yet, even more brilliant is that the novel is peppered with
REAL 9/11 truth research used as chapter introductions, leaving
the action fiction reader educated as well as entertained.
Dr. Robert Bowman (rtd. Air Force Colonel), and Director of
ThePatriot.us a 9/11 truth seeking organization, was an early
advocate of ?The Shell Game,? as was renowned 9/11 researcher
and author, David Ray Griffin, and Kevin Ryan (a UL NIST report
whistleblower), and many other major voices for 9/11 truth. Â
But, there was resistance in some activists of using ?fiction?
to push ?truth.?Â
So some early 9/11 truth supporters of ?The Shell Game,? are
now enjoying a breath of relief as the activists out there, are
now seeing the potential of ?The Shell Game,? and embracing it?
s success as a possibility to dramatically expand 9/11 truth.Â
Robert Bowman, after seeing such activist?s turn around, wrote:
?Glad to see a turn-around. Fortunately, I started at the
beginning and read through the whole book carefully. It is a
riveting page-turner, with characters you can really care
about, and plenty of plot twists. Along the way, it educates
the reader on all sorts of issues related to the neocon danger
to our republic and our people. (9/11 is just one of them.) I
wholeheartedly endorse this book. Read it ... and start at the
beginning. You'll be glad you did.?
Dr. Bowman gained 9/11 truth notoriety early on, when he
analyzed the US Air Force behavior on 9/11 and as a former
fighter pilot knew that if standard procedures would have been
followed on 9/11 the 2nd WTC tower, the Pentagon, and likely
even the first WTC tower would never have been taken down. Dr.
Bowman spoke out with a soul force as he said, ?Some call it
treason!?Â
In the last week, the ad hoc coalition of 9/11 truth seekers
advocating ?The Shell Game? has grown more, adding Professor
Steven Jones (whose research found the official story of the
WTC collapses defies the laws of physics), Pilots for 9/11
Truth, and Visibility911 have also joined into the growing
coalition for this edu-tainment novel, and its value to expand
the 9/11 truth movement?s audience.
With the original print run of ?The Shell Game,? almost sold
out already, nearly three weeks before official release . . .
the 9/11 truth movement may take a well deserved bow for doing
what they could to expand ?The Shell Game? out into the public
eye. There is more to do. Our sights should be set on ?The
Shell Game? breaking as many sales records as possible, thereby
making it impossible for the corporate media to ignore the
novel, its author, or the book?s website which will provide
links to 9/11 truth seeking organizations and information.
...
"Yet, even more brilliant is that the novel is peppered with
REAL 9/11 truth research used as chapter introductions, leaving
the action fiction reader educated as well as entertained."
uhhhh. i can already imagine the reviews in the msn...
"a breathtaking thriller that takes a few elements of our real world and adds alot of conspiratorial storytelling that keeps the reader on his toes. Due to the real elements, the experience becomes more real than your average thriller, even though it is just that. Recommended for conspiracy theorists and people who like to entertain themselfes with dark imaginations"
this whole campaign is really quite overblown.
em7
Nice - that's a real possibility
Yeah, and conspiracy theory theorist Mark Fenster will be paraded out to tell us the popularity of the book is a reflection of anger and mistrust.
Ningen
ha! absolutely
forgive me ningen if I seem two faced or like a split personality but thats the way i am. when you're right you're right and when you're not it upsets me :)
Spell it out -- L I H O P
Here's a scary little piece of shit -- a video trailer pimping the book and making it painfully clear that it's LIHOPpissimo
(I don't know how to embed this and I don't think I would want to, anyway -- it feels nasty, like it's got monkey diseases or something.)
http://www.stevealten.com/shell_gametrailer.htm
lihoppo andante moltissimo
flagrante shillicto, altensi fetzero fellatio!
Which reminds me of the Opera Man song
Hola Hola Hola
The hola is too smalla
For the Bigga Plane-a
To fitta righta inna
Hey Gretavo -- great job on that song -- lyrics excellante
It still evades me what the
It still evades me what the play will be with this event. Perhaps it is to create a hero (as opposed to just getting a LIHOP message accross), who can then sway the movement to their agenda. I will wait and see.
Yep
Forty years ago it was the same deal. When you have a real rebel you make a fake one to glom onto him, stab him in the back, and derail the agenda.
In the 60s Abbie Hoffman was the real rebel, Jerry Rubin was a CIA mole. Hoffman ended up a suicide after years on the run. Jerry Rubin ended up on Wall Street, pushing the MSM myth that all the Hippies and Yippies sold out and became Yuppies.
Kevin Ryan and Steve Jones are real heroes but fatally naive. They had no rebel past and no rebel street smarts. So Alten has been assigned to neutralize them by becoming the new alpha truther and derailing the movement.
The support of the Jon Gold and Kevin Barrett support group at 911b is a tell. Oprah's involvement is a mega tell. Oprah is a multibillionaire on television. No one is allowed that much media power unless they are an establishment team player. The co-opting of 9/11 truth is a done deal.
Oprah?
She's shelling for the shill game? nooooo... really?
This is what the shill is
This is what the shill is claiming in the 911b thread, that Alten is going to be on Oprah. No outside confirmation of this claim, but it is sick enough to turn out to be true.
The 9/11 event was planned for many years, likely had a multibillion dollar budget. The 9/11 truth movement has been a significant nuisance for the last 3 years and a minor annoyance for 3 years before that. There has been enough time for the perps to craft a grand, well funded response. A crappy Islamophobic pulp novel pushed by the MSM, including Oprah's book club, would seem to be the keystone of the disinfo strategy.
bahh..you are just..
Bah...you are just a bad truther hell bent on tearing the movement to tiny shreds.
the fake truth movement predated 9/11
I am convinced that it had been planned beforehand. Why wouldn't it have been? If you were planning the event for years, would you not have come up with a strategy for dealing with the inevitable questions? And wouldn't you have planned to seed both sides of the debate so as to control it? Yeah, I think so. The question is how many plan B's they have--i.e. how adjustable is the strategy? I'm guessing not very.
brilliant analysis, Alek!
real rebels versus real rats.
never thought about that whole Abbie vs. Jerry thing.
WTC folk hold firm.
Great analysis Alek,
Yet another in a long line of great comments from you.
I remember the Abbie Hoffman-Jerry Rubin story. I just saw Jerry Rubin the other day on YouTube playing his old CIA-hippie rebel, Marxist part. It’s completely obvious when you watch him now that he was some type of cointelpro plant. In this video clip I saw, he is answering college students’ and reporter’ questions, and acting like a complete ass. It was hard to watch. I don’t think I was able to make it through his whole performance. Actually, it was very Nico Hauptopian.
So Oprah or Harpo is hooking up with the Shill Game train. There is something weird going on here. We will have to see how this plays out, as Juan was talking about. This may be somehow related to the often discussed plan to maintain the Arab false flag and hang Bush and Cheney if things get too hot, but by all means keep Israeli intelligence’s operational involvement off the table, as well as the involvement of the upper levels of New York and Washington’s Zionist cartel network.
The small minority of psychopathic Zionist criminals who launched and planned this little operation and its resultant Middle East “War on Terror†(trademarked 1985 - B. Netanyahu) have put the Jewish community of North America into a horrible position, with ‘those in the know’ forced to cover for Israel, and thus commit treason against the United States, or tell what they know, and thereby earn the abject hatred and rejection of “their people†and their families, and ignite an international political situation that they could quickly lose control over.
I am starting to work on a one-act satirical play about Larry Silverstein telling his grandmother’s ghost about how the events of 9/11 actually came about. The working title of the play is something like – “Larry, I Hope to Fucking God That What You Just Told Me Isn’t True.†Somewhere at the beginning of the play, she is screaming at her grandson who, for $9 billion, just helped Israeli operatives attack the United States and murder 3,000 people – “Larry, are you trying to get us all killed, son? If America finds out about this, it will be the end of Israel. Did you and your friends suddenly lose your goddamned fucking minds in order to pick up a little cash? By God in Heaven I declare to you son, you have become the enemy of my people.â€
We could stage it as a double bill with “My Name is Rachel Corrie.†Yes, I have practical, successful ideas like this all the time.
Ciao.
Excellent idea! I really
Excellent idea! I really worry about the long term consequences of all this elite treachery to innocent Jewish American people. Despite the hype, the US has never seen european style anti-semitism. Yes, there was WASP snobbery, you can't join my club, go to my school, marry my daughter, etc. But frankly, other european immigrants like Irish, Italians, and Poles were treated the same way. There certainly haven't been any pogroms in the US. However, if the real story of 9/11 ever comes out, there is a real chance that Joe Bob will decide to murder his innocent Jewish dentist in revenge.
This is exactly the kind of
This is exactly the kind of discussion and understanding of a very difficult situation I was trying to encourage over at 9/11B, because I had found out from my own investigations that Israel is a lot, lot more involved here than merely hanging out down the street from “Arab terrorist hijackers†in San Diego and other spots, and that the 9/11 truth movement was going to have to begin dealing with the really unpleasant and forbidden truths regarding not only 9/11 and the ideology of Zionism, but an entire host of highly unpleasant issues. It would require a lot more than just analyzing Air Force and FAA timelines or even the physics of controlled demolition. Americans, like everyone else, like to have fun, and none of this is very fun at all.
I will say proudly, however, that I know many people Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist, and they are all dealing with this 9/11-related information intelligently, and with great spirit and wisdom, and they have learned to separate Judaism and the Jewish person from the fanatical Zionist ideologue and militant, criminal minority who want to use Judaism and the Jewish people as a ‘human shield’ for their demonic militaristic behaviour. I know someone who every time she starts feeling, let us say, super negative feelings for Jewish people, she chants the name of Rabbi Weiss three times, and remembers that he is what Judaism is about, and that he is a true man of God.
Within the paranoid mind of the architects of Zionist mythology, their dearly loved mental construct of the violent and irrational “anti-Semitic†impulse ever lurking in the masses of the Goyim is a proven exaggeration. They are a people possessed of the genius of being able to turn a piece of sand into a mountain range, and I will not take up a 350-page space here to prove this thesis at the moment. As I have found, the majority of sane and rational people are quite capable of separating the two concepts of ‘criminal minority’ from ‘innocent majority’, but when you have a self-appointed leadership whose ‘cause’ has historically and advantageously thrived on the backlash of provoked persecution, and who control the general focus of national media, the people are then not properly informed, by design, and their world view becomes colored and manipulated by whoever who controls and/or dominates the media.
One of the themes that Professors Mearsheimer and Walt talk about in “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy†is that by attempting to censor the free speech rights of American citizens, the American press, academics, and American politicians and thereby preventing them from having an honest, fully informed discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its history, it only makes the situation that much worse, and that much more volatile as well when the truths about things finally start coming out. And at the present time, they are all coming out. Those who live in glass houses, as the saying goes. Don’t cry about a Holocaust when one is also engaged in one, only of a more protracted length of time. Genocide is genocide. It is not the numbers, it is the intent, and that is why in Israel one sees such pleasant graffiti as “Gas All the Arabs!†and hears Benjamin Netanyahu on CNN talking about his dreams of “forced expulsions†of all Palestinians from the land of Israel, rounding them up, putting them on trains, and dropping them off in the deserts of Jordan. Hitler wanted the Jews to vacate Europe, and Likud-Kadima dominated, Zionist Israel wants the Palestinians to leave their ancestral lands, despite promising the UN, upon admission in 1949, that they wouldn’t abuse the Palestinians and turn into a bunch of Nazi fucks. Between Nazism and Zionism, is there any real difference between these two positions? Besides Vanessa Redgrave, where have the stars of Hollywood been on this genocide; on this program of racist apartheid? They are silent because they are all liberal posers and cowards. Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, and Michael Moore, give me a fucking break. They are silent because they live on the blood money of their owners. They only speak up against injustice when it is fashionable and they are given permission to do so. I think the Arabs should buy out Hollywood, and then we would see Technicolor classics of battle, conflict, and bravery such as “Attack on the U.S.S. Liberty†or “How to Blow Up New York at 9 in the AM.â€
yeah, right on Lazlo, and where's Richard fucking Gere???
Tibet shmebet...
sorry. you got me all riled up again! Â
i'm off to a UU gathering to watch a premier of a film entitled "Woven Ways", a creation of a friend of mine, Linda. justice for the native americans vs the injustice of the uranium industry.
i'm wearing my WTC Demo shirt. see what happens at the UU.
by the way, i picked up "Being There" yesterday! thanks for the recommendation, darlin.
k
Alek, i have had the same concerns
as I have many wonderful Jewish friends, like family, man.
good soul
then on second thought, it's pretty horrific
what "Americans" have done to Arab Muslims....
maybe there have been no progroms on the Jews in North America, nor even, as you say, European-style persecution of Moslems, in country, but "over there" ...forget it! It's an abomination! A holocaust! close to a million in these few years. And, that's not counting the persecution and suffering imposed on Palestinians Muslim/Christian Arabs over these long decades....
(this all before i even read what Lazlo has to say, following.)Â
the discussion here is so incalculably valuable, don't we think?
racism is a problem
Zionism is racism. Racism also still plagues the US--not overt in most cases, but just think of the incarceration rate of black males, so much a result of unjust drug laws and the poverty resulting from the crimes committed by wealthy elites. Things are going to be tough, but nothing worth winning comes easily. That said, we can only do so much with our own positivity--it's not just in our hands...
English - Steve Alten's First Language?
 This is after perusing his website for about 15 minutes. I shudder to think...
will truthers backpeddle from the monsterous Shell Game hoax?
Tune in next month as our action heroes test the boundaries of mediocrity like never before!
Steve Alten, Ed.D
So the SHell Shill has a doctorate in edumacation, it would seems! I'm not sure what's more surprising--that he has it or that he actually wants people to know it. Advanced degrees in "Education" are kind of an inside joke in McAcademia, but don't say I said so!
what means edumacation?
no thing, I say! i got first job at US mall kiosk never mind below average maths skill (I exelled in english, dancing, and ordinance deployment) Dr. Steve Alten is very popular author in Israel, loving the big shark stories and alien conspiracy theme! Keep up good work, Doctor!
isn't he that shark attakc guy?
ah hah!Â
hi kate, stop insulting steve alten--you don't know him
like i do. that guy's oeuvre has changed my life. i almost died once (mostly due to coronary failure because my lifestyle was just too intense) and in the hospital they had a lot of books for us in the body cast wing--i read em all while my body healed. in fact, his characters were so real that they would inhabit me and i would start talking to the nurses as them. when they cracked ol' Harley Guy out of the cast he emerged like a phoenix from the plaster, and headed to New York to look for him. It was while I wandered up and down that concrete jungle looking for his publisher's office that my life was altered irrevocably by Islamofascism and fate flung me into the arms of the Fox News reporter and my face into the history books!
hey, big guy!
you should get away from the concrete jungle and come visit me in the kiosk some time...
roll for role, break pads for brake pads
As one reviewer pointed out, there are alot of errors but they aren't typos, as he said. They are just the wrong words! He gives some examples. I personally kept a record of the ones I found, and they eventually number 19! I don't know what to think. Did the author make these grammatical errors and no one caught them? or ??? When you see these kinds of errors, like using roll for role, break pads for brake pads? You have to wonder. It took away from an otherwise pretty good book.
Hopsicker Grammar
DANIEL HOPSICKER IS THE GOVERNMENT MOLE MESSIAH OF 911 TRUTH DAMAGE CONTROL
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2006/05/daniel-hopsicker-is-government-...
They used to utterly fascinated with proving that no plane hit the Pentagon. Before that there were utterly fascinated with the idea that the planes were flown by remote control. And on and on."
This blogger had some thoughts on Hopsicker, the Venice, FL investigative journalist who brought us Amanda Keller, the cocaine parties story, the story of cut-up kitties and strippers...I'm sure you've all heard about this fantastic narrative.
that blog's last entry is over a year ago...
I remember reading the post you link to when it first came out, and wondering why the guy was so cryptic with the reference to "Fitz". While I more or less agree with his take on Hopsicker, not sure Citizenspook isn't also in the biz of wild goose breeding...