This from 911blogger:Growing Discussion Among 9/11 Truthers of Israeli Involvement in 9/11

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A quick analysis of ADL's claims about 9/11 conspiracy theories

Let's see:

On his Web site, Duke claims that "the Zionists," working with "Jewish news producers and editors," quashed the story of the alleged Israeli spying ring tracking the 9/11 terrorists. He also alleges that the same Jewish-controlled government and media instigated the subsequent invasion of Iraq. Duke writes, "Our press was unanimous in backing the neoJewishcon [sic] lies and hustled America off to this war for Israel."

If the point of this is not clear, let me make it so--the ADL attributes to David Duke, ex-KKK "Grand Wizard" and all-around yucky person a LIHOP position on 9/11.  That is, the ADL wants us to believe that the theory that this racist holds that is so appalling is in fact that "the evil Jooz allowed the evil and dirty sand n***ers to attack white America."  I'm paraphrasing of course, but that is about the gist of it, no?

Everyone else that the ADL cites seems to hold LIHOP views as well.  WTF?  You would think that the ADL might be chomping at the bit to give publicity to the even more "outlandish" theories being promoted by clearly more "hateful" people than David Duke--namely yours truly and the like-minded who in fact think that the truth is far worse than LIHOP.  So why wouldn't they?  And is it a coincidence that what the ADL claims to be the gist of the 9/11 Truth Movement and attributes to people like David Duke is in fact the watered down version that those who shall remain nameless in the truth movement keep trying to push on everyone?

Let us recall the words of the Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels on the subject of what the goal of effective propaganda should be--"to present an ostensible diversity behind which lies an actual uniformity."

The ostensible diversity here, which seems not to include the strong case for combination Bush admin/Mossad/NY Zionist MIHOP, amounts to the LIHOP brigade of what I consider to be fake truthers and the view of the ADL that such fake truthers are, like David Duke, believers in LIHOP and therefore rabid antisemites.  From these two general options the masses can decide where they might fall.  Of course the actual uniformity being concealed is obviously rejection of MIHOP as something that can even be mentioned by the ADL which has no problem directing its audience to numerous hateful websites.  Just as screw loose change makes a point of holding up loose change as if it were the sine qua non of 9/11 truth, the ADL finds every real or fake anti-semite believer in LIHOP to man their army of straw man adversaries for themselves.

Ever wonder why in the entire 9/11 truth world of blogs and websites there are so few (one by my count--Boston911truth.org, whose founders I know) links to wtcdemolition.com?  When even places like the webfairy, serendipity, and any number of Nico Haupt spinoffs are linked to?  Is it because we are insignificant?  Any more so than some of the many obscure sites one sees on the typical 9/11 truth blogroll?  Or is it because for some reason this site does not fit into the network of ostensible diversity?  And could that be because while we hold Israel to be very likely at least partly responsible for making 9/11 happen and for framing otherwise innocent arab muslims, we do it in a way that does not promote racism but instead takes every opportunity to reach out to Jewish people who are willing to judge Israel from an objective point of view?  That stresses the importance of solidarity of all people of all races and religions in standing up to those who would use those differences to shield their criminal activities from scrutiny?

The reason for pointing this out is not at all to increase traffic to our site--we would gain nothing but increased bottlenecks since we don't accept advertisements and only created the merchandise from Zazzle because a few of us wanted a tshirt!  :)

Or to whine and paint us as a victim.  It is just to say that we can learn more sometimes from what is ignored than from what is attacked, because the perps' strategy that is visibly emerging is basically a clone of the left/right political paradigm that seeks to divide everyone into two camps designed to cancel each other out and therefore pre-empt anything REAL and therefore threatening to the status quo from emerging out of the independent thought and actions of millions of honest people.

kate of the kiosk's picture

yeah, more breadcrumbs

down a tortuous path...i got  some of the same vibe about "some" of this.

yet, I thought,  if any sane Jewish person with any sense of reason and true responsibility - read this ADL article, but perhaps had not been "aware" thus far, and then, if not totally put off, had or will have even the slightest curiosity to dig a little deeper...there you have it! they may have to confront themselves and the truth about Israel having to have been involved, and that there's just no way....the facts, no matter from the left, the right, what have you, the people, their connections, the money trails, the wars, the technology, the motives...all there. 

so then I thought maybe this is the ADL's way of prodding their people to start opening(although still in anti-semitic packaging) and swallowing this bitter reality pill.  who knows... but we'll be there to help, right?

blessings, gretavo

 

P45's picture

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"Ever wonder why in the entire 9/11 truth world of blogs and websites there are so few (one by my count--Boston911truth.org, whose founders I know) links to wtcdemolition.com?"

Er, two actually and I found this by accident...
hxxp://killxown.blogspox.com/ (boy scout code applied) 

Think you made a new friend.......... 

 

Seriously though. Thanks RT and others for all the patient, good humoured, insightful stuff posted here. Its a beacon of clarity for the easily confused (holds hand up sheepishly). I look forward to more of the same in the new year and for what little's left of this one. 

Its already "Whatever" Day here so a merry and peaceful Whatever to you all.

Smile

 

kate of the kiosk's picture

#4 deals with strawmen

Annoymouse's picture

discussion???

it's obvious. that's not where confusion lies. thanks. kate. oh, i just saw it. it's just smoke...
but i got an osama keychain!!!