How to distinguish between 9/11 Gatekeepers and Real 9/11 Truthers?
It seems that the terms LIHOP and MIHOP are problematic for multiple reasons and perhaps should be replaced by something better. I think that the most important issue people are often addressing when using these terms is to have some way to accurately distinguish the two main opposing camps in the so-called 9/11 truth movement:
A) One which seeks to speak to the complete, awful, False Flag Inside Job Account of 9/11
B) The other which seeks to prop up the fake Evil Muslim Terrorist Myth, thereby ignoring or supressing all types of evidence that contradicts or demolishes the central aspect of the Official Conspiracy Theory. In other words, these are the conscious or unconscious "9/11 Gatekeepers".
The motivation for group B may comprise several different types of witting and unwitting mindsets, including those with psychological blocks firmly in place, those who have been duped by fake truthers (9/11 Gatekeepers), those who are Muslim haters, and finally, those who are disinformation agents.
I think it has been pretty well established (most people in the movement would agree) that the first group who believes in the False Flag aspect of 9/11 comprises the vast majority of 9/11 truthers, or those who would say that 9/11 was an inside job. The second group (9/11 Gatekeepers) seems to have lots of prominent personalities on the Web which seems to be disproportionate to the masses of 9/11 activists. In this way, this situation is very similar to the phenomenon of the progressive and radical left population in the US versus the so-called alternative/left media, which seems to function more as "left gatekeepers" in that on some very important issues, the "left" media is not in agreement with the left masses. The "left" media seems to be covering up or downplaying the full truth of what many of the progressive/radical left knows about what is happening with regards to covert US policy and the shadow/secret government, the full criminality, CIA drug running, domestic assassinations, etc. The rise of the "9/11 media" or the most prominent/well funded entities of 9/11 truth media/internet presence seems to be following this pattern.
Some who complain of the "divisive" labels LIHOP/MIHOP argue that there is not much difference between the two, that the most important thing is that people unify around the demand for a new investigation and to hold any criminal elements within the government (and any external governments/groups) to account and then worry about the specifics of what happened later, and that specific theories of what exactly happened are not important, or are too controversial, or too difficult for the average American to grasp, or that we should "first focus on getting people to LIHOP and then they will move to MIHOP if that is what is needed, don't worry". I strongly disagree for the following reasons:
1) Most people I've met in the truth movement, including myself, were "woken up" after discovering the full, shocking truth of the "False Flag" aspect of 9/11, not by the circumstantial, speculative theories about possible foreknowledge, alleged (unproveable) wire transfers between Pakistan and Atta, suspicious behavior of NORAD in "allowing" the "alleged" hijacked planes to reach their targets unmolested which may or may not have included an explicit stand down order, etc., which seems to point to some people inside government looking the other way but who exactly, and how high up?
2) Most of the LIHOP evidence is speculative and "sure seems suspicious" but is inconclusive about whether or not 9/11 was an "inside job", whereas the MIHOP type of evidence tends to be more concrete, physical, "smoking gun" type of evidence that points more directly to the fact that it had to be an inside job, and that most of the mass murder of the ~3000 Americans was actually done by at least some elements on the inside.
3) LIHOP leaves in place the most grotesqe and monstrous deception of the whole 9/11 operation - the Myth of the Evil Muslim Terrorists, and therefore underpins the whole "War on Terror". Not exposing this myth does little to eliminate the justifications for the current and forthcoming wars, because "even if we stirred them up on purpose, there's still those threatening dangerous terrorists to deal with".
4) Too many LIHOPers are not keeping their end of the bargain, i.e., "Just worry about getting people to LIHOP and then they can move to MIHOP". Coincidently, some of the most vocal LIHOPers in this regard are also trying to downplay or discredit the most concrete physical evidence, including the missing Boeing at the Pentagon and the WTC demolition evidence, as well as evidence that would dispute that hijackers were at the controls of the alleged 4 aircraft, etc.
By definition, False Flag would exclude the possibiliy of a LIHOP explanation of 9/11. Either you agree that 9/11 was a false flag attack, or you are a LIHOPer, but you can't be both.
(I'm out of time but am posting what I have so far)
Comments?
Thank you Keenan
for your well-stated and important piece of writing and analysis. My friend was jumping up and down screaming, “YES!†You should post this up at 9/11 Blogger today, challenge the gatekeepers, and see how long they leave it up for. I have no further comments at the moment, except to say that in a succinct way, you have pretty much summed up the situation accurately.
We should change our political tagline to: “9/11 was an Outside Israeli Job with Inside Neo-Con Help.†That, unfortunately, is the 9/11 truth that even the “truth movement†doesn’t want to talk about. Israeli military intelligence lives in a high-tech world. They don’t need no steenking hijackers.
For the good of our nations and our planet, it is high time to give up our wimpy fears of being called anti-Semites and self-hating Jews, especially by people who aren’t even Semitic or Jewish. Doesn’t genocide against the Arabs qualify as anti-Semitism of the worst sort? Germans who criticized Hitler were also called self-hating Germans. Thank you again for your writing and your help in the fight to save our countries.
All the best to you and yours,
Lazlo
slogan
[quote=Lazlo Toth]We should change our political tagline to: “9/11 was an Outside Israeli Job with Inside Neo-Con Help.†That, unfortunately, is the 9/11 truth that even the “truth movement†doesn’t want to talk about. Israeli military intelligence lives in a high-tech world. They don’t need no steenking hijackers.[/quote]
That is the shortest, complete statement of 9-11 truth for me. I just think it would offend honest Israelis who are not part of the plot. How about: 9/11 was an Israeli-Zionist Job with Inside Neo-Con Help.
Sorry for belaboring this short slogan thing but I want to use it as my sig on several non truther forums
slogan
i posted that comment above
Gatekeeping vs Full Truthing
Hi Lazlo, welcome back to the ship of Blogger castaways. Thanks for the kind words. Coming from someone who gifts us with such consistently brilliant writings, it is quite a compliment.
I've been boycotting 911blogger ever since the coup by the Gatekeeper Thought Police last summer, but perhaps its time to start submitting there again. After I do a final draft, I may make an attempt to post this article there and see what happens. Perhaps I will submit it as part of a proposal to replace LIHOP/MIHOP which has become so disliked and argueably muddled and useless, with terms that spell out more explicitly the real dichotomy in the movement that I am addressing.
And, thanks everyone for the comments. Keep them coming. I'd really like to flush out this issue and write a more lengthy article, because it is high time we start taking the offensive with this huge problem developing in the 9/11 truth movement, and we need to work together to come up with some effective weapons to deal with it.
I do think the "Left-Gatekeeper" media paradigm is a good metaphore to use and is understood by most people in the movement. What we are talking about is basically: Gatekeeping vs Full Truthing, or the Limited Hangout vs the Entire Truth, or the Controlled Truth vs the Real Truth, something along those lines. I know that most of those who are solidly in the "LIHOP" camp will object to this, but logically I think we can make a solid case for it. It is our task to show that our logic trumps their logic. People who would wind up in the "9/11 Gatekeeper" group will most likely object that it is a negative term. But, it is better in my view to call them a gatekeeper than calling them "shills" or "limited hangout" types, etc., because we really can't know for sure in most cases why people are engaging in gatekeeping, and that frees us from having to ascribe a motive. Not all journalists who work in the "Left Gatekeeper" media are conscious mis/dis-information agents. Some are just dupes, etc. They are still serving as gatekeepers, nonetheless. So, I think using words that speak to the function people are serving, rather than their motives, is ultimately more useful and possibly less divisive.
“9/11 was an Outside Israeli Job with Inside Neo-Con Help.â€
 He he he, I like it. We could also say something like "9/11 was an Inside Job by the Neo-Con American Regime with their Israeli Regime partners."
Since the Bush Neo-Con regime is joined at the hip with the Israeli regime, in that the exact same people (5 of which hold DUEL ISRAELI CITIZENSHIP) are running the foreign policy of both nations, means that you can't even put a cigarette paper in between the US and Israeli regimes. Maybe they should be considered the same entity. Although, I do think it is possible that not all of the planning was done by the American Neo-Cons, and there could have been a double-cross aspect to the operation by Mossad as insurance against the possibility that some other competing interests might complicate the complete loyalty of the American side of things.
function vs motives/neocons/A Mighty Heart
may be difficult to separate function and motive but interesting proposal.
More than half of American neoconservatives are jewish zionists and thus most likely dual nationals. Neocon as a term has been the most "polite" way to refer to the group who are most likely responsible for the planning and execution of 9/11.
speaking of dual nationals. i watched "A Mighty Heart" last evening. Anybody seen? the Marianna Pearl story of what happened in Karachi to WSJ journalist D. Pearl.
is there a final take from the truth movement on Pearl? Couple of interesting tidbits in the film: About 1/4 way through, there is a scene where Pearl is finally in conversation with his last-minute much-sought-after-but-dangerous contact in-the-know.."Bin Laden did not do 9/11. it was the mossad. the mossad are the only ones capable of such an operation. are you a christian?" "no, i'm a jew."Â
also the last living statement pre beheading by "3 men who spoke arabic" was interesting regarding there being a street in Israel's town of Bene Barak which is named after his great grandfather who was one of the founders of the town[7].Â
so, was Pearl an American Jewish journalist/humanist who happened to have a great grandfather who founded a town in israel, or was he an American-Israeli zionist journalist, or was he a mossad agent?Â
was he executed by angry muslim pakistani jihadis because their terms were not met for release of pakistani prisoners in Guantanamo? or was he executed by mossad agents who spoke arabic to prevent the release/leak of 9/11 truth?
he was a dead man either way
this is kate
Hey Keenan, speaking of the double-cross aspects of this,
One of the most interesting parts of the relationship between the Bush administration and the Israeli Likudniks is the international country and family alliances that have been uncomfortably formed for various personal and strategic interests. According to former ISI chief General Hamid Gul, the Zionist power structure wanted Gore to win the 2000 election, but the Bushes stole the election in defiance of them. This pissed them off, and may factor into several surprise elements of the 9/11 attacks, including the baffling “Angel is next†communication to Air Force One. They perhaps wanted to demonstrate to Bush who was really in control. Through software engineering, Israeli military intelligence has full backdoor access to most, if not all, U.S. government computers, including the Pentagon’s, as well as full U.S. telephone access through Amdocs, Inc. Cheney, a long-time AIPAC ass-kisser, may also be acting in some sort of Zionist handler function over Dubya on behalf of Israel. In this power family showdown, it looks like the Israelis won early.
The Zionists (American or Israeli) don’t like the Bush family’s chummy relationship with the Saudi royal family or the Bin Ladens either. They are also well aware of Prescott Bush’s intimate business relationship to Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen; their group funding of the rise of the Nazi party; and the American corporate usage (Bush’s Union Bank etc.) of Auschwitz as a slave labor camp (all documented in the National Archives at the University of Maryland btw). Then we have the Bush oil crowd’s Caspian pipeline project through Afghanistan that the Taliban reneged on. This pipeline of pure cash, to reach Karachi and the Arabian Sea for international oil shipments, is where Musharraf and the ISI fit in. Pakistan, it would seem, agreed to support the al-Qaeda, terrorist hijacker back-story of 9/11 which shields Israeli complicity and leads investigators (like those in the 9/11 “truth†movement) down the false breadcrumb trail to the little crazy town of Jihadi-ville, and in return, Bushco would grant to the Pakistanis the economic benefits from the Caspian pipeline reaching a Pakistani port.
Attacking Afghanistan first was another thing, it seems, Bush did to piss off the Israelis. They wanted him to hit Iraq right away. 9/11 may have been the case of a single false flag operation with two quasi-conflicting agendas by two groups of perpetrators in an uneasy alliance. The big question now, is whether Israeli operatives and their moles, still lodged in every high-level nook and cranny of the U.S. government, will attack America again to fire up the public to support the nuking of Iran. And if they attack the U.S. again, will Americans finally wake up and begin to tally up the number of murderous attacks that Israel has launched against American citizens and U.S. soldiers since the mid 1950s? Will America choose a president who will take on the fifth-columnists within the government and say “No More!†to Israel?
This blowing up of things and blaming it on the Arabs is an old Israeli trick the Zionist underground began developing back in the 1940s. It seems a great many people still fall for this old deception however. Even the Urban Moving system guys were calling in fake reports of Arabs in “sheikh costumes†mixing chemicals by the airport on the afternoon of 9/11. When Menachem Begin and his crew bombed the King David Hotel, the bombers were dressed in Palestinian garb. This is an old and trusty trick. The Zionists are nothing but liars and con-artists. Let them wail on about everybody being an anti-Semite. It is time to open up the eyes of America. If Hitler called you an anti-Teutonic racist, would you refrain from criticizing the Nazis? Hell no. It is not about race or religion. It is about the criminality of national treason and mass murder. Israeli Zionism is the real enemy of the Jews. Through 9/11, a small minority of insane Zionist fanatics have unnecessarily put into jeopardy innocent Jewish people who were as surprised and shocked by 9/11 as everyone else. It is time for the governments of the world to tell Israel NO! NO MORE!
You look at the modus operandi of the 9/11 attacks and the particular people involved at the highest levels, and this operation has Israeli fingerprints all over it. How come no one in the “truth†movement wants to do any research into Lewis Eisenberg (a high level player in this) and his usage of the NY Port Authority as a front for Mossad demolition teams operating at night within the towers? Why does no one want to discuss the Port Authority elevator shaft projects at the CORE OF THE BUILDINGS? Why are these topics never brought up at 9/11 Blogger or TruthAction.org? Gatekeepers, that’s why. CD leads to Israel and Arab hijackers lead away from Israel and give legitimacy to their fake War on Terror, which is now using the U.S. and Canadian military to carry out the long-planned Israeli genocide of the Arab and Persian worlds. The job of the Fake 9/11 Truth Movement is to keep the bogus breadcrumb trail going towards the Pakistan, jihadi Muslim Arab direction at all times, and at all costs. If that fails, direct the trail toward the Bushes, who are also patsies in a really surreal kind of way, not that I am trying to let Bush off. Oh yes, they are up to their eyeballs in this, but the so-called LIHOP scenario also may be part of some type of Israeli blackmail operation, of which they are quite fond. They would love to blame it all on the Arabs and/or the Bush family. On Sumner Redstone’s Comedy Central, what do we find? We have Jon Stewart with Neo-con guests and constant Bush bashing. This is part of Chomsky’s faux democracy concept where the edges of the allowed discussion are always circumscribed, yet the distance of the “kept boundaries†gives the impression of free speech. Going from Bush bashing to honest discussions of AIPAC and Israeli espionage in the U.S. is not allowed on any network because the owners set the boundaries of discussion, and Israel is off-limits, but Bush is not. Perhaps they are still pissed off about his two stolen elections?
It would also help the 9/11 truth discussion if the “truthers†were a bit more aware of the documented alliance situation between Israel, Turkey, Jordan, and India. India and Israel work together based on the old “enemy of my enemy is my friend†notion. The Times of India is now a basic conduit for anything Indian intelligence wants to leak at the behest of Israeli intelligence to damage the Pakistanis, cf. $100,000 of cocaine-stripper money wired to the 9/11 patsies for their services in playing their roles as Arab flight students and “suicide hijackers.†The Times of India is about as reliable as the New York Times or Washington Post. Now stories are coming out in the European press (cf. ICH) about the secret CIA-Mossad prison camps in JORDAN! (cf. above-mentioned allied quartet) Anyways, there is a lot more to 9/11 than meets the eye, and websites like 9/11 Blogger certainly ain’t talkin’ about it. Why? Because it is not part of their mission statement or job description. They are like the Amy Goodmans of the 9/11 “truth†movement. We can’t talk about who actually pulled off 9/11 because we’re afraid of being called anti-Semites by Semite wannabes. Gimme a break. The survival of the U.S.A. as a constitutional democracy is on the line, and everyone is worried about our fucking PR image? Jeez. Patrick Henry must be rolling in his grave. Dov Zakheim lifts $2.3 trillion from the Pentagon, and no one says a damn thing. Wow!
"Why are these topics never
"Why are these topics never brought up at 9/11 Blogger or TruthAction.org?"
I bring up the issue of Israeli involvement all the time, both on blogger and truthaction. Truthaction is primarily about 911 truth activism, with most of the sub-forums devoted to that end; the general forum (like all "general forums") is a mixed bag. Only one or two Johnny-come-lately's over there dispute the idea that CD is a foregone conclusion. It is a logical fallacy (not to mention irresponsible) to blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few. If you're interested in seeing more material on Israeli involvement at truthaction I would suggest signing up there and posting something. I for one would enjoy a debate on the subject.
Hi Danse,
Hi Danse,
I dare say wtcdemolition.com now has the best insights and discussions going on the deeper parts of the conspiracy, namely who did it. The sad part is that this distinction was gained not out of its own aspirations alone but rather because the other sites seem to control the dialogue away from this topic. Almost all the people here came from 911blogger but were turned off by the policing and/or lack of material and discussions on this aspect of 9-11.
Perhaps some people honestly choose not to go out on a limb on limited evidence, but that would leave us all at the mercy of the conspirators who make it their SOP not to reveal information about themselves. Lazlo and the other truthers here and in other sites (like the article of Dr. Albert D. Pastore) have shown how far you can go with information that is already in the public sphere to define which groups if not quite the particular individuals who are responsible for 9-11.
Hey Juan, I recall talking
Hey Juan,
I recall talking to you on blogger a few months ago about false flag operations in the Philippines, specifically "Operation Greenbase," which apparently involved the staging of bombings on the island of Mindanao in order to justify an increased US presence in your country. There was a small mutiny of junior officers of the Philippine Army in Manilla, in the summer of 2003, where small fish accused their military brass and the Arroyo government of conspiring with the United States for these ends.  An alleged spook named Michael Meiring was caught up in the affair (blew his legs off while trying to cook a bomb) and was thence whisked away by the FBI.Â
This latter story -- along with countless other false flag operations -- shows that the nouveau "strategy of tension" known as Al-Qaeda is not a purely Israeli phenomenon.    Â
My opinion is that we see a confluence of interests in which Israel is merely one player -- albeit a very important player.Â
I agree that the issue of Mossad is marginalized on 911blogger in favor of "safer" stories pointing to Patsyian etc (at least in terms of what appears on the front page). This does not, however, extend to truthaction.org, and the intimation of censorship there is extremely irresponsible. So far as I'm aware, the only reason people have gotten banned at truthaction is for pimping silly ideas about "space beams" etc. and for engaging in ad-hominem attacks.Â
I do NOT think that 911 was an "outside job" with neocon help; I think it was an inside job with Israeli help.  At this point, as Keenan points out, the difference is almost negligible.  Israel and the US are like a pair of deformed twins joined at the hip. But America has been an imperial power for far longer than Israel, and I'm willing to bet that Andrew Marshall considers oil at least as important as Eretz Yisrael.Â
I would much rather a civilized debate occur on this subject than people pigeonholing sites according to whim. Think Israel is neglected at truthaction or some other site? Sign up and make your case.Â
Im very sorry if I had been
Im very sorry if I had been loose in implying that truthaction.org is controlled or censored regarding Zionist/Israeli involvement. It was actually from your post here that I got that impression but I only mentioned 911blogger which I am quite sure does that. Now I see that you only wanted to encourage more people to post over there to debate the Zionist involvement case.
I do not think I am the best person to go on that site to make the case for Zionist involvement. I am hardly an activist (unless you consider US bases in my country) and will hold no credibility there. I do go on none 9-11 forums where I try to get people interested in the topic.
I tend to think that the US actors of the 9-11 conspiracy were much more involved rather than late comers on whom the surprise was sprung
by the Israeli participants (as Gen Gul implies). Cheney seems to have been actively involved as the events unfolded on that day if the full implications of what Norman Minetta's testimony is believed in.
I really appreciate what you posted regarding Meiring at 911B. That information was rather hard to come by and very few people here know or suspect that the US was very possibly involved in the bombings that were blamed on the Abu Sayyaf, an Islamic militant group that is classified more as criminal bandits rather than rebels and linked to Al Quaeda. More recently the bombings has moved to the capital region where I live. One of the malls I frequent blew up. There was a rather lame attempt to blame an Islamic
group which nobody believed. Then it was blamed on methane gas from the water disposal system. The Australian federal police, the US FBI and an Israeli security consultant (would you believe that) all backed up the government's methane/industrial accident story. We are waiting for the final police report to come out so we can tear it apart. The final report has been delayed for several weeks already and in the meantime Congress had a bombing and a coup was attempted practically at my doorstep.
Sorry Juan,
Sorry Juan,
that bit about "censorship" was not directed at you. I'm very heartened to see that the truth about 911 and false flag operations in general has spread to the Phillippines. Your country is an essential outpost for US imperialism; the day that you kick the US out once and for all will be glorious indeed :)
"a single false flag operation with two
"a single false flag operation with two quasi-conflicting agendas by two groups of perpetrators in an uneasy alliance."
Personally
I've no problems with the terms but thats speaking as a less than sophisticated MIHOPPER, a status that applies to the majority of the movement. Its the easiest path to find and show others to.
Those who draw lines in the sand are those who would complain of them I reckon and the organised minority shouldnt be the political majority. I crave unity but not with condition. It's all or nothing and LIHOP will slowly and painfully achieve the latter.
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Good blog! I agree very much that the LIHOP/MIHOP terms are problematic.
Their original meanings, for one, are. As it has been said many times. Its not either or. The black+white way of looking at it leaves a lot to be desired.
Its that black+white thing (Bush vs BinLaden) that even - in some way- helps the official myth.
As you said, it seems nowadays these terms sort of changed meaning. Makes it even more problematic, imo. Its now an insider thing, only long-time truthers know the 'true' meaning, which - in todays talks - seems more as Keenan describes with the 2 groups.
This is total crap, imo. But i know its hard to quit using them.
But i think we should. "Gatekeepers" is problematic in that it implies negative goals. Which might not be the case. We don't want to piss the honest 'LIHOPERS' off.
2 Dimensions to the 9/11 Gatekeeping problem
Very good points. The 9/11 Gatekeeping problem covers up 2 major areas of 9/11 truth:
1 - exposing of the falsity of the fake Muslim Terrorists part of the OCT - the False Flag, fake Hijacker component
2 - exposing of a critical sub-group of the Real Terrorists behind the 9/11 operation - the Zionist and Israeli (Mossad) component, the exposure of which may be even more dangerous to the perpetrators than the exposure of the more apparently obvious Bush administraton sub-group
This illustrates one of the main problems with the LIHOP/MIHOP terminology. Exposure of the fake terrorist component doesn't necessarily lead to exposure of the real (or complete) terrorist network. The "Either Bush or Bin Laden" dichotomy is obviously not acceptable. That just opens the door for Hillary (or whoever is selected to be our next pup...er...president) to play musicle chairs and leave the real terrorist network untouched.
It would seem that those 2 cover-up functions are beiing performed most vigerously by the "LIHOP" advocates, but even a few MIHOP or False Flag advocates appear to be serving as gatekeepers on the second point (again, not necessarily consciously). Uncovering the first part automatically leads, in most American minds, to obvious complicity by elements within the US government spread across several agencies, but not so obvious complicity by close US allies, such as Israel and Britain, except to those who are already aware of the Zionist control of key agencies/power centers in the US.
That begs a few questions:
A) Should the battle against the gatekeepers tackle both dimensions at once, or should it be a 2-step process?
B) Do we even need to worry so much about the second dimension - the Zionist/Mossad component right now? Or is exposing the first dimension the most critical step (and less touchy of a subject for most people), which will then more easily lead to the exposure of the second dimension as people delve more deeply into who controls the US government and media, etc.? Could it be that after people are safely woken up to the False Flag aspect, they will then more easily be able to break through their life-long programming about the issues of Zionism and Israel to then be exposed to the truth about the (whole) real terrorist network?
Personally, I did not understand the extent of Zionist control and influence in the US when I was first woken up to the false flag reality of 9/11. 9/11 opened the flood gates for my mind to then delve deeper into researching the "man behind the curtain". So, my knowledge of the whole Zionism thing is fairly recent. I've only been onto it for only about a year or so.
Hi Keenan, I think the
Hi Keenan,
I think the point you made about Hillary or some other aipac shill becoming president makes it important to expose the Zionist angle in the conspiracy as early as possible. The truth movement should not allow its own people to be pulled into some lihop heaven and die happy thinking the conspiracy is closed.Â
The Oklahoma City bombing shows how well a conspiracy can present a patsie, get a conviction and execution all within the legal bounds of the justice system. Unfortunately that is quite convincing to the majority.
witting and unwitting mindsets
thank you, Keenan,  for elucidation on what might be construed as a murky matter.
aside from the fear of being labeled an AS, most of the Bs have been wittingly and unwittingly brainwashed so heavily over decades that they can no longer make the switch in their hearts and minds. thus, they buy into the Evil Muslim Myth - the majority of Palestinians/Muslims/Arabs/Middle Easterners are bad, and the majority of Isaelis are heros, deserved of great respect and honor for building a modern nation full of hopes and dreams out of their extreme suffering and victimized past. I can't count the times that when in conversation with supposedly liberal, intellectual, artistic Democrats, they will vilify the muslims and glorify the israelis.  this has irked me for years i think mostly because of a peculiar and positive experience of having lived in the ME as an impressionable youth. i had already been "seeded", so to speak,  with a different perspective...Hey, I first saw "Lawrence of Arabia" in Beirut. The arabs were my heros!
On the other hand, I have also taken some pleasure in boasting around more "prejudiced" circles of my cool jewish and israeli friends. Proud to have overcome or to not have succumbed to outdated "waspy" distrust and thus ostracization of jews from friend and family circles.
your point is well taken about the path to 9/11 truth by way of the shocking nature of the false flag attack. It was that way for me, in part, but also a powerful affirmation of what I had long suspected...
blessings. k
come to think of it...
(please excuse the self analysis), there were hundreds of other American kids who most probably did not come away from living in the ME with the same respect and appreciation.
just checking in...
Hey 9/11 truth world! Just back from a trip on family business that has been weighing on me for a few weeks now. I'm back with a new 'tude and perspective and will look for some time soon to get up to speed on this and other posts, in particular to continue to deal with the fallout of what I realize and admit has been some overly strident attitude on my part that in particular (and most unintentionally) ended up casting YT/Cosmos in a light that is neither deserved or accurate. Thanks to many friends for helping me to work through this and see the error (one of them anyway) of my ways. I do hope that we can use this experience to figure out ways to deal with certain challenges that the movement faces that are more contructive than those that some of us succumb to out of frustration or whatever else. Anyway, gotta get ready for the daily grind, so more later. ... hope all are well!
welcome back, Gretavo!
you were missed!
and, thank you for www.wtcdemolition.com
it's really a super site with lots of good blog fod! i was just perusing the "maps" yesterday, way cool. greetings to friends and fellow truthers across the globe!
Great to hear, RT. Look
Great to hear, RT. Look forward to future posts :)