Rabbi Claims America Has Been Hijacked

Rabbi Claims America Has Been Hijacked
“America has been hijacked by Zionists. This whole war is to secure the assets of the Israeli occupation. We, as Jews, have an obligation to tell the truth about this war.â€
– Rabbi Chaim Sofer
“A time will come when evil plots will fall apart, and it should be written in history that within this chaos, there were Jews loyal to their faith and to their tradition, and loyal to humanity and justice, and they spoke openly against the mainstream, even though they were labeled self-hating Jews and accused of collaborating with terrorists. We are collaborating with faith, justice and humanity.â€
– Rabbi Chaim Sofer
“It’s against God to be non-compassionate. It says in the Torah you have to emulate God. Just like He’s compassionate, you must be compassionate. All the actions that the Zionists are doing, the oppression of the people, all in the name of Judaism, it’s false.â€
– Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss
“According to the Torah and Jewish faith, the present Palestinian Arab claim to rule in Palestine is right and just. The Zionist claim is wrong and criminal. Our attitude to Israel is that the whole concept is flawed and illegitimate. The Zionist state known as ‘Israel’ is a regime that has no right to exist. Its continuing existence is the underlying cause of the strife in Palestine.â€
– Rabbi Ahron Cohen at Birmingham University on February 26, 2003 speaking to the school’s Palestinian Society
*All quotations from Michelle Goldberg’s March 13, 2003 Salon.com article “Jews Against Israelâ€
A great hoax has long been played upon the American people and their “elected†representatives in the U.S. Congress and Senate with regards to the highly expensive Israel nation-state project. It has been estimated in studies by several anthropologists that eighty to ninety percent of European Ashkenazi Jewry and their American offspring are biologically and genetically neither Semitic ethnically nor racially. If they also happen to support the material state of modern Israel, they are also, according to the writings of Jewish sages, technically not even to be considered Jewish. According to Hebrew scriptures such as the Talmudic tractate Kesubos, the material establishment and support of a Jewish state in the Holy Land by military force and violence is an extreme heresy and a direct rebellion against the God of the Torah, making those who support the modern state of Israel godless heretics and rebels, and thus not Jews at all (cf. above quote from Rabbi Weiss). There were rabbis in the old days who actually wanted to be able to excommunicate the Zionist crowd from the faith of Judaism entirely. Ironically, it is this same Zionist crowd and their ideological descendents who constantly play both the race card of anti-Semitism and the religious bigotry card of anti-Judaism as a tactical method of censoring or shaming any political discussion about the very real and empirical history of genocidal war crimes and severe human rights violations engaged in by the state of Israel and its supporters for nearly SEVENTY YEARS now (see comparative length of Nazi holocaust: 1942-1945, four years). The only real Semitic people involved in this entire scenario are the Arabs, who the Zionists consider to be dogs and racially sub-standard (Zionist math: 100 Arabs = 1 Jew). So here we have a Twilight Zone situation of non-Semitic Europeans under the mistaken historical impression that they are Semites and related to the Semitic tribes of Iron Age Israel-Judah, yet in the modern age, they are employing the race card of anti-Semitism to cover up their own virulent anti-Semitic racism and support for a state which ultimately seeks the Nazi-like extermination of the actual Semitic peoples of the Middle East (with a few million Persians thrown in for spice). Sound insane? It is. Tune in next year. You must understand the beauty of this card trick being played – the people who usually play the anti-Semite card are not in fact Semitic, and the people who play the anti-Judaism card to cover Israel’s crimes, are themselves, according to Hebrew scripture, not really Jews. America is completely being played. Entire media monopolies have been bought and controlled to portray Israel as a helpless state of poor and innocent victims who have been unjustly exiled from their ancient Israelite homeland of 2,000 years ago, when, genetically and historically, the modern Zionists are actually descendents of 8th century CE Turkic converts to Judaism from Southern Russia, i.e. pagans who converted to Judaism and began migrating into central and western Europe roughly 1,200 years ago. They have as much right to the land of Palestine as Sammy Davis, Jr. did when he converted to Judaism back in the ‘60s. Whole media monopolies have been bought and controlled to hide the truth from Americans (and their tax dollars) that Israel is nothing more than a racist colonial power project built through terror, intimidation, political corruption, and violence by men who are neither Semites nor Jews, and whose 20th century paramilitary founding fathers and political mentors were in fact ardent fans of both Mussolini and Hitler; founding fathers who believed in militant nationalism, racism, totalitarianism, monarchical oligarchy, censorship and manipulation of the press, the usage of tactics of terror against civilians, and the deceptive usages of false flag terror operations as legitimate political tools for accomplishing their aims domestically and internationally. The modern state of Israel has nothing to do with Judaism or God, or compassion, or human rights, or democracy. That is all just a big PR spin-job. The Zion crowd now even has Christian-Zionist preacher Pat Hagee saying Jesus is not the Messiah. They be hijackin’ yo religion folks. Hey America. Wake the fuck up. This is all really happening.
In the research I have been doing for part three of my Wired for Terror article (which is continuing despite my heavy, seemingly 24/7 schedule as of the last several weeks) I have been dealing with the biographical histories of Zionist guerilla leaders, like Abba Achimeir of the “maximalist†wing of Vladimir Jabotinsky’s Zionist Revisionism movement. Some of these folks were BIG fans of not only Mussolini and Italian fascism, but they also admired Hitler for his sense of dictatorial power, Aryan racist hypotheses, and strong German nationalism, so much so that they viewed his anti-Semitism as being a necessary, but relatively non-worrisome part of his whole German National Socialist (NAZI) package. These groups like Abba Achimeir’s League of Sicarii and Avraham Stern’s Lohamei Herut Israel (LeHI) hated Zionist socialism, and because of this, they came to admire Hitler and Mussolini for their strong anti-Communist stances. The right-wing Zionist underground’s flirtations with Hitler and Mussolini will be discussed in their historical context, and believe me, as insane as it all sounds, it will make political sense, of course in a kind of crazed, Machiavellian way. “Mainstream†Zionists in Palestine and Europe were for the most part horrified by the actions of the militant underground, but it is, after all, the men from this militant underground that ultimately formed the state, and because of this, it is the Zionist underground which will be discussed in the December installment of my project. Part Three of “Wired for Terror†is going to be REAL interesting. It’s no wonder why they don’t have History Channel specials on this stuff. In part three we are finally going to get into the real meat and potatoes history that fueled the immediate background of events such as 9/11, the 1984 Mossad LIHOP bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, the Israeli attacks on U.S. embassies in Egypt during the Lavon Affair, and all the rest. And yes (to that annonymouse dude who was worried about WWI), we will be discussing the Balfour Declaration, both the myths and the realities. Thanks to Big D, et al for throwing out some comments on this. And no, I never said that the World Zionist Congress started WWI, although Rothschild banking interests were heavily involved in the “Great Game†played by the European powers to bankrupt and control the Ottoman Empire in the 19th century. This “Great Game†however was indeed one of the major underlying factors that led to WWI. If historians or brave souls such as Benjamin Freedman refer to the Zionists, led at the time by Chaim Weizmann, as being responsible for WWI, it is probably because they are referring to the second part of WWI, in 1916, when Germany and Co. offered peace to Britain and Co. out of decency and mercy, with no huge strings attached. It was the idea of - why keep on pounding someone who has already lost the fight? But if England surrendered and the war came to a close, the Ottomans would still be holding Palestine. Not good for Chaim Weizmann and Co. The story of the Zionists using Brandeis and others as influence on Wilson to bring America into the war in exchange for the Balfour letter and a shot at getting Palestine is well documented in detailed biographies, letters, docs, and diaries, etc., and analyzed in mainstream history texts published by major universities. This is not some far-out “crazy conspiracy†cooked up by Benjamin Freedman and a bunch of “self-hating†Jews. I also must emphasize that my long article is primarily concerned with highlighting the means, motives, and opportunity aspects of 9/11 and their various connections to a criminal Zionist minority inside the Israeli and U.S. governments. In short, to answer the naturally incredulous questions – Why would Israel want to pull off an operation like 9/11 and aren’t they our friends? To understand the reasons for many modern events, especially if there is any Israeli connection, it is necessary to understand and be aware of all the little discussed, but highly relevant historical patterns of Zionist operations and the thought processes behind them. History tells us much. The T.V. tells us little. Although the Arab is always portrayed as a terrorist, history tells a very different story than Hollywood does. In the 20th century the original terrorist assassins, kidnappers, bank robbers, hit teams, and building blower-uppers of the Middle East were the members of the Zionist underground in Palestine. Several of these racist thugs and Nazi collaborators became Prime Ministers of Israel, but on CNN you will never hear day in and day out about Zionist terrorists from Tel Aviv or Herzliya. If there is an international Arab terrorist problem now, it is because there was an international Zionist terrorist problem first. Naturally, as an important part of the history of Zionism and the creation of Israel, the Balfour Declaration or Balfour Letter must be discussed, but my article’s main theme or thrust is not primarily concerned with the innumerable details and historical controversies over who caused WWI or WWII, or the details and controversies of the Balfour declaration – a letter which the Zionists held to be a sacred contract that Britain had made with them, and which the Brits just took as a general policy statement, not a contract. It is also interesting to note that in a speech, I believe given in Paris around 1930 or ’32, the Zionist leader Vladimir “Ze’ev†Jabotinsky refers to the Benjamin Freedman-mentioned tit-for-tat arrangement that the Zionists and the Brits had with regard to their enabling the British to finally win WWI. The First World War was America’s first experience as cannon fodder for Zionist aspirations, but as we have seen repeatedly, would not be the last.
I will end here on a positive note and with positive suggestions to remedy the present situation in the Middle East. Hardcore supporters of Israel always hate when Israel is called a Nazi-like terrorist state, or an apartheid regime. Here are my suggestions which I think will help to alleviate from them such unflattering comparisons. They must stop acting like a bunch of jackboot psycho storm-troopers who think they have the right to break seven-year-old Palestinian kids’ arms after emptying half a clip into their parents during an illegal house search. They must stop bulldozing peoples’ homes, orchards, and towns, stop evicting people from their homes and lands, and forcing them to live in concentration, I mean, refugee camps. If they follow these simple moral principles of international decency and conduct, the rest of the world will not look upon Israel as the Neu Reich, or as an international menace to world peace and humanity. If the Zionists stop acting under the influence of the “chosen people†concept and they give up their cherished notions of 19th century social Darwinism, then their completely fantasized racial superiority over the Arab world can no longer be used to legitimize their graduated, step-by-step Holocaust of the Palestinians and Lebanese. Don’t like the apartheid label? Dismantle the apartheid state. Don’t like the Zionazi label? Stop imitating the Gestapo. It’s that simple folks. The innocent, constantly persecuted Jew bit ain’t flyin’ no mo’, not when you can see videos on the web of IDF thugs beating women and kids with the butts of their American-made rifles. If the Zionists are indeed “chosen ones,†then in the end, the Chooser just might turn out to be a deity of great darkness, and the old Zion project might just turn out as the anti-Zionist rabbis of a century ago had predicted – a state that would destroy the soul of Judaism and its people through its material attachment to the power of militarism and conscienceless violence; a state that would become a global factory of anti-Semitism; a state that would kill its own and those of its “allies and friends†to achieve its imperial, totalitarian, and colonial goals; a state formed on the moral power and image of an exaggerated holocaust which now possesses its own very real history of actual Semitic genocide, a history which no one is allowed to mention for fear of being called a racist. But the utility of that card trick has now faded. As mentioned previously – Not Semites, biologically not a ‘race’, not “chosen,†not actually even Jews. American and Canadian soldiers are killing and being killed in the Middle East, the U.S. Constitution has been brutally raped and left for dead, and the U.S. national treasury is being sucked bone dry for a 100 year lie, hoax, and staged con-job. America does not have an Arab terrorist problem. It has an Israeli terrorist problem, and all the sleeper cells are camped out in the nation’s capital. Wrap your minds around this once again for practice – In 1984, according to former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky, as published in his book “By Way of Deception,†Israeli Mossad helped murder nearly 400 Marines in Beirut. The two American embassies blown up in Africa, also a local Mossad station job. The U.S.S. Liberty was attacked by Israel in 1967 and the catalyst for the 100 year War on Terror, the 9/11 operation, was an Israeli job with inside U.S. Neo-con help. Folks! Time to fucking wake up. Weez in big, giant trouble. And as for me being an anti-Semite, ridiculous -- I have lots of Arab friends, and my Jewish friends are actually real Jews, you know – the moral, compassionate kind, the kind who spit on the ground when you mention the name of Ariel Sharon or Larry Silverstein.
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Hi to all
Hi to all – Gretavo, Casseia, Kate O’K, Bruce, Big D, Larry Horse, the Chi-town crowd, the Harvahd crew, Juan, Tahooey, Jpass, Chris, Godsend, Keenan by the Sea, Danse, and all the rest of you good souls who are wanted by the Simon Wiesenthal Center for thought crimes against the State.
As you might have guessed from my lack of communication lately, I have one of those job things, and do not receive professional paid-Blogger style living expenses. I have been away under the heavy workload of end of semester stuff (I need a T.A.), and with my one month research and writing vacation fast approaching, I wanted to say that although I have been el-disappearo lately, blog-wise, I have been checking in, and applaud you all for your work, on the keyboard and on the streets. All of you, your words are important, and they do make a difference. I encountered some excellent writing and thinking being done by RT and Casseia over at TruthAction. Supah! Bruce, I was thinking about you, hoping that all is well with you, and its great to see you back here. The new logo design you did is FUCKING AWESOME. And Gretavo, I know you were just keeding, but I do want that slogan you suggested for the back of my WTC Demo T-shirt –
“Die LIHOP Limited Hang-out Mahfahkaz!â€
-- Nietzsche
I could wear it while caroling door to door in the snow.
“The welfare of my brothers and sisters may God seek at all timesâ€
(from an Aramaic prayer papyrus of 5th century BCE Egypt)
All the best, good heroes and friends,
Lazlo
ha ha ah
and i only read the first P
the best to you tooÂ
the best to you too Lazlo
may this nightmare be over soon, but let the truth movement stay on foreverÂ
oh it is so good, you know..
to hear from Lazlo!
beautiful aramaic prayer, dear brave heart.
mahfahkaz....
muh-uh-fuhkuzzz....
eh hahahah...it is so good to laugh
Rabbi Weiss Tells it how it is
Rabbi Weiss, Outside Annapolis Peace Confab, Rips Zionism
He Knows the truth
I would like to see the Clown Dershowitz Debate Rabbi Weiss
riveting, Rabbi Weiss
these dear people, so brave. so controversial. you know, i just can't believe how i'm thinking these days. everything is so switched around in my head and my heart. 10 years ago i would have thought they were odd, but now i feel akin to them. although i would most likely disagreew ith their views on women's rights (but who knows), we certainly agree about the poor Palestinian people. how beautifully he spoke about the muslim and jewish families watching each others' children, their most precious...how beautiful.
and although i am not as religious and practicing as they, nor even as i used to be in my own Presbyterianism, they make me want to go back to my church and back to God.Â
same with the "far right" NRA types ...not that i would join, but i feel akin to them in their love of freedom, democracy and the American Constitution. And, because of the truth movement.  Alex Jones, We are Change, Truthaction, 911 blogger, 911truth...and of course my dear friends here at WTCDemo.  despite our different cultures and perspectives, we are all brothers and sisters in the truth.
enough from a very sadly sentimental katie this morning... am about to go pay tribute to a friend who passed away...
Let Rabbi Weiss speak at the UN or Columbia University
and if Zionist Columbia University president Bollinger puts on another racist performance like when Ahmedinijad spoke there, or if the Israeli UN delegates interrupt Rabbi Weiss’ speech, just have security go over and Tase the little fuckers. Give ’em a taste of their own medicine, for once. I would love to see the Israeli delegation have to sit and listen to Rabbi Weiss’ entire speech, squirming in their chairs with duct tape over their mouths, as it is broadcast around the world. Wolf Blitzer would have a frickin heart attack. This might be a good scene for a movie I’m working on, “Loose Shekels – Final Cut: The Real 9/11 Story.†If the U.S. ever gets another real president, that chief executive should strip 9/11 operator George Tenet of his congressional medal of freedom and give it to Rabbi Weiss, God bless his absolutely courageous soul.
Yes, the good Rabbi has pretty much said it all. Humanity is blessed by its heroes. The awakening is beginning, and the perps are starting to freak.
Was that God I heard speaking through that little bearded man’s mouth and heart?
Thanks Mouse for posting this!
Rabbi Weiss for President!!
I know, I know, he would never--what a shame. Here we have a man both brilliant, compassionate and courageous--a natural leader, a Jewish MLK. Wow, just wow. May we all carry a little of the Rabbi's spirit with us.
I showed my friend this video
My friend Matt, who up till now knew very little about the true reality of Zionism, watched Rabbi Weiss speaking his courageous truth with his jaw practically to the floor.Â
Good to see you back, too, Laz!
I have to admit I'm being overly quiet lately, because somehow, I feel that anything that needs to be said has already been said. It's mindboggling how transparent this case has actually become, thanks to the massive collective research effort over the last 6 years, isn't it?
Most fortunately, ever more people can see this as the trauma slowly wears off. The times they are changing, and it appears we'll be granted a chance to reshape this world for the better. Who would've thought?
seriously.
I think what we're seeing is what happens when the denial inducing shock and awe wears off. It happened many years ago in a little empire with a vain and gullible emperor, you know. Once the innocent child said out loud the obvious, everyone else quickly snapped out of the spell cast by the incredible sight of their naked potentate.
I would be a little more complacement were it not for the persistence of a clear (to some) effort within the truth movement itself to deliberately mislead people as the truth breaks free and runs rampant across the world. That said, most of the people now waking up are not going to be wasting their time online as much as we do. That is a great thing because offline is where real change can take root in people's consciousness, away from manipulation by the controlled elements of the truth movement.
I keep having interesting conversations here with all kinds of folks--all the signs are there that we are absolutely going nova. I think all truther types should feel proud to have kept the torch burning until now, and in case I haven't said it in the last 30 minutes, I am especially and forever grateful to all of you who contribute your views here and have made this such a rewarding experience. I can't possibly overstate the strength that I've drawn from the sense of community we've seen develop here over the last few months--all of you are bona fide heroes in my book, inspiring examples of passionate, compassionate, courageous, and visionary people of conscience. I have much more hope for humanity today than I ever have, thanks to all of you--let none of us ever again doubt what cooperation between such individuals can accomplish, and may we soon get to the place we all want to be!
Hey Gretavo, so nice to hear your voice again,
And I hope your family is well. Before I even got to your last paragraph I was thinking to myself that I could just reverentially bow down to all of you folks here as heroes who I hold in my heart. We may only form a small truth blogging unit, but we are intense and we are passionate, and we are fully committed to the full truth no matter how disturbing it can sometimes get.
Has it only been since the end of June/beginning of July that we have been meeting in this corner of the blogosphere? I guess it has been so intense that to me it seems like a couple of years. Wow. The beauty of the international web though is that people like us, with all of our cutting edge intellectual intensities, are usually, in our own communities, pretty much alone and completely unaware that people like ourselves even exist in any great numbers at all. If all the folks on this site, say, lived in a single city and formed a single, physical 9/11 truth group, we would be a mental powerhouse and a political activist group truly to be reckoned with. And as I mentioned to Kate in some other recent post of a couple of days ago, special praise goes out to you for providing a 9/11 truth website that is not afraid to discuss the heavier and more controversial aspects of the 9/11 situation along with all of its other relevant and equally controversial ingredients. When the history of the 9/11 Truth Movement gets written by a real historian, you and your website shall have a chapter all to itself.
You're so right, we are winning!
Gretavo, I also have been noticing a huge shift in the consciousness and receptiveness to the truth recently, at least in my part of the world.
wow, i almost missed this post!!!/conversation with marine
that's what i got for jumping onto "comments" instead of "posts" last night.
just completed reading this, Lazlo. Will save and send.
had an interesting exchange with my marine-major, Afghanistan-Iraq-war- veteran nephew the other evening over a large family dinner at his inlaws, over wine..."so, aunt k, you don't believe (incredulously) there are actual muslim jihadis out there who want to attack or have attacked America??"Â
"hmm, maybe, but i think mostly it is false-flag."
"like israel?"
"well, yeah, elements, mossad..."
"but israel is our friend, israel's our friend"
"israel is not our friend (solemnly and seriously slowly shaking my head, with truly the most serious of countenances - i believe there is power in quiet countenances. the rest of the table overheard, got silent, real silent...waiting to see the young, handsome, courageous marine's reaction to his funky but beloved aunt...he's lost best friends to war...and we are so blessed to have him home...i have a lot of nerve involving him in this conflictual conversation...)
 "well, i know there are some powerful lobbies out there, aunt k, you're right about that, who have a lot of control"
"i have no problem with the military, Chris, but i want our military to defend America, not Israel". Conversation ended. I know there was so much more to say, but out of politeness and respect for his wife's family, that was enough.Â
I wonder what he will do next, what he will be thinking, what conversations he might have with other officers, will any of them have influence...that would be my dream. a truther's dream. to have our officers turn on the psychopaths who have infitrated and now wield such power and position in our nation....
Hi Kate
Yesterday we had another coup attempt in the Philippines. Some idealistic soldiers who were undergoing a trial for a previous coup walked out of court with the help of armed accomplices. They holed up in a nearby hotel and asked for people to join them (like in previous revolts). They were fed up with the government which is involved in big time corruption, vote cheating anomalies and suspected of murdering soldiers by sending them into a trap in rebel infested areas. Very few people came so they all got arrested. This was too bad, I think peoplehere in general are fed up with the government as well, but we have been through several changes in government via these revolts, and each time we were betrayed by the new leader.
This all occured a few blocks from my place. Â Â
Whoa -- a few blocks from your place.
Jeebus.Â
yep cass
I live in the center of the business district. I couldn't see the hotel from my place but theres only one building blocking the view from my balcony. It's a big worry coz the snipers used to shoot up surrounding buildings during the previous revolts. This time the rebelling soldiers gave up without fighting after the police drove their armoured cars right into the hotel lobby.
The current government is playing with our system, they had someone lodge a weak impeachment complaint (designed to lose) which would make it legally impossible to file a genuine impeachment complaint for one year. That could be one reason why the soldiers felt their only recourse was to revolt. The only problem with the revolt was they did not provide a viable alternative leader that the people could support. Almost nobody joined them even though the disgust with the administration is heavy in the air. Â
I suspect that your country will face the same problem down the road. Since elections no longer allow for a genuine change, the only way to remove your subverted leaders is through a revolt of some sorts. Â
tough times everywhere
Thanks for sharing the inside dope with us Juan. It may just be that we are (possibly for the best) past the point where armed revolts are realistic ways of effecting change. Indeed they often seem to result in nothing more than a change in despot. Don't underestimate the power of the truth that we wield. With it we will open eyes and minds, but that won't be all, or enough. We must hereafter begin to create an alternative to both regional despotism AND global despotism, based, from what we've learned in our quest, on free and open communication between a global free citizenry. We have a truly unprcedented opportunity to undo so many wrongs and fix so much, if we persevere and if we are determined and believe in our ability to do it. Have patience--real change is slow, and like natural evolution often seems to be at a stand still, especially right before a paradigm shift. For once I think we have a light at the end of this dark tunnel that we can all focus on and together make sure we all reach.
Hey, brother Juan
thank you for sharing. it is truly painful for a people to have to go through this. yes, i understand your fear for the US. stay in touch, take care. k
Rabbis and Jews against Zionism
It's great to see courageous Jews like rabbis Weiss and Sofer speak out against Zionism - and the evil and danger it represents to all humanity, especially Jewry. These rabbis are from a long line of spiritual leaders of Judaism who have resisted Zionism since its devilish inception. The abominations committed daily by the Zionist leaders of the State of Israel are an affront to Yahweh and all humanity. There is great urgency for these enlightened rabbis to get their message to Jewry before HaShem's patience runs out. There are more souls to be harvested for the New Jerusalem.
There are other enlightened Jews who not only see the evil of Zionism but who also SEE! Yahweh Yahushua as the Messiah of Jews and Gentiles. Yahweh will empower them to fulfill the great spiritual destiny of the Jews and His Chosen People on behalf of all humanity! The Holy Spirit will descend on a handful of these anti-Israel Messianic Jews very soon and they will be powerful witnesses to Yahweh's will and His anointed Son - the Holy One of Israel.
There is more on my blog at http://sol-godsend.blogspot.com and on my website at http://novalight.org
The clock of Time is ticking towards its approaching conclusion.
Errrrrr....
The "Jews for Jesus" thing is really offensive to a lot of people -- probably including these rabbis.Â
Offense
Jesus has always been an 'offense' to many (most!) people - dating back to His time on Earth. What else is new? They'll just have to get over it! - you know, 'overcome' their natural tendencies ;)
Know of any anti-Zionist Messianic ex-Rabbis? Bet they're harder to find than hen's teeth! ;)
"I came not to bring peace but a sword"
there are some...
myself included, who think that if the real Jesus existed (and I presume he may well have) that he never claimed to be the messiah of prophecy, that he was essentially an anti-talmudist, a Torah-true Jew, or whatever you will. that he so effectively exposed the corrupt ruling priest families of the Sadducees and Pharisees not just for their perversion of the faith and abuse of the faithful but for their collaboration with the existing dominant military empire of the time. such a powerful and liberating message had to be pre-empted from spreading in any effective form and so the movement was infiltrated by a number of charlatans and pretenders who diluted it with mumbo-jumbo culminating in the council of Nice which established the official dogma for what became the catholic church.Â
Your opinion is of course welcome here, GS, but I have to say that I consider anyone who believes that Jesus claimed to be the messiah to be the victim of a millenia-old hoax, one that is antithetical to true Christian and Jewish morality as spelled out in the ten commandments and SOME of the "new testament". much of the rest of the Torah is in fact also similarly forged (I believe) which is why you see the inherent contradictions between the commandments and the stories of Yaweh supposedly enjoining his devotees to slaughter their enemies. resolving these and other contradictions is in fact what Talmudism is all about. A genuinely moral person can suss out the true moral code that is the invaluable kernel of all religious traditions, whereas weak-spirited people are easy prey for false prophets and manipulators of any and all stripes--right now that is, sadly, the majority of people who consider themselves religious.
Say:
Are you the same "GodSend" oftentimes commenting on & around www.smokingmirrors.blogspot.com?
Shouldn't this be considered spam?
Godsend, I'd say that you've crossed the line into spamming this site. We are not interested in your religious mumbo jumbo you are trying to sell. Please take it outside. Thanks.
Mods: Perhaps we should set a clear line for religious spam?
Well, the way I see it...
Are you really anonymous or did you forget to sign in?
I find it irritating and offensive, but I'm willing to do the "free speech thing" since he's a registered member.
It's certainly not representative of my opinions or (necessarily) anyone else's on the board.
opinions
Glad to see that you're open-minded and willing to listen to other opinions. Who knows, your opinions might change - if you allow yourself to become familiar with the Truth which can make you free.
spamming and selling
Perhaps you would prefer me to 'copy and paste' my entire website into a comment here!?
Nothing I have to offer is 'For Sale'
Nor is it 'religious mumbo jumbo'. You are obviously not familiar with Truth
- the Truth that can make you free!
Finally, speak for yourself - not for anyone else! (unless you have been elected spokesperson by popular acclaim or secret ballot)
he drew a circle
that kept me out, (kept me out, kept me out...)
heretic reble,
a thing to flout;
but love and i had the wit to win!!!!
we drew a circle that
took him in!!!
He drew a cross
which invited all in, invited all in.
But I decided to stay in my circle of illusion -
And died therein.
Hi Lazlo, When Kate
Hi Lazlo, When Kate related her conversations with a Marine and after I read your post again, my interest in Ostrovsky's account of Mossad involvement in the bombing of the Beirut barracks was piqued. I found this article on a website which relates the event from Ostrovsky's viewpoint although I cannot vouch for its faithfulness to Ovstrovsky's book.
http://ariwatch.com/OurAlly/BeirutBombing.htm
...Now some further background. For some time Israel had imposed a huge import tax on merchandise
coming from Lebanon, which naturally resulted in smuggling to evade it.
The goods were smuggled by cars and trucks modified for hidden storage.
The Mossad station in Beirut had a certain informant who knew people
working at a local garage which specialized in such modifications. Thus
the Mossad occasionally obtained a good description of a vehicle that
they could pass on to Israeli border guards, foiling many smuggling
attempts.
Back to our story. In the summer of 1983 this informant tells the Mossad that
Shi’ite Muslims are refitting a large Mercedes-Benz truck with
extra-large hidden storage areas for holding bombs. Again quoting Mr.
Ostrovsky:
The blast and crushing debris kills 220 Marines, 18 Navy personnel, and 3
Army soldiers, 241 in all, most sleeping in their cots at the time. (70
men are injured. The Lebanese janitor for the building is killed.) It
is the highest single-day death toll for American soldiers since the
Vietnam Tet offensive.
A few minutes later another truck smashes into the French compound two
miles away, killing 58 French soldiers. Mr. Ostrovsky continues:
ARI says: “Israel is our ally in the Middle East.â€
This is our ally?
Hi Juan, thanks for posting the Beirut story
As I remember, that is pretty much how Victor Ostrovsky tells it in his book. With allies like these, who needs enemies, as the saying goes. There are also other versions out there as well, ones which describe it not so much as a LIHOP situation, but as a Mossad-engineered attack in order to drive the Marines out of Beirut so that the Israelis could continue with their war crimes against the Lebanese without the watchful, witnessing eyes of American soldiers. Either way, not a pretty tale at all, which brings up the perennial question of why the American taxpayers are allowing their government to shell out up to $18 billion (total) a year to a country that attacks us. When another country repeatedly attacks you, steals your money, and kills your soldiers, aren’t you supposed to send your air force over there to pound them into submission? Isn’t that how it usually works?
Thanks for all of your street-level news from the other side of the world, and I am so sorry to hear that your country is STILL being controlled by militant despots and crooks, and American spooks. We commoners are all in this together, fighting against a corrupt and conscienceless minority. Have courage, my brother. The tide is about to change. Jesus, Gandhi, and General Ernesto Che Guevara are coming back, and they’re going to stomp on all of these cockroaches.
sums it up bootifully
Nazism = National Socialism = (ethnic) Nationalism and Socialism combined = ethnic cleansing (by murder and/or deportation) =Â Israeli Zionism (Period)
It's an ugly and disturbing fact. It is a worldview shattering truth for many. Denying it will only prolong the misery of millions of people. Those who have manipulated world events to produce the above (and other complementary) ideologies represent a destructive living force to this day, one that draws in fanatical adherents as well as selfish opportunists and delusional dupes. I was once one myself (most of us I think were, most people still are.)
We are engaged in a noble struggle for the soul of humanity--the future is ours, but only if we want and take it back.