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is it time for reform yet?

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Submitted by gretavo on Sat, 2007-11-03 15:28.

3rd party

3-Reform Delegation to Congress

 

REFORM MONEY

REFORM MEDIA

REFORM GOVERNMENT

 

Haven't we had enough already?

Forget Spare Change

Forget Loose Change

It's time for Real Change

WE CAN DO IT!

 REALLY!

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Reform implies that the system is salvageable

Submitted by Keenan on Sat, 2007-11-03 18:28.

I'd say that at this point the system is so rotten and infested with layer upon layer of disease and sham intentions, that the only real way out is to start over. The US is too big to be democratic country, anyway. Break it up into pieces, let people form their own regional governments. Let's start with a general strike. People need to at least stop paying their federal income taxes and stop buying oil. Shut the whole system down while organizing into small economic units based on an exchange and trade economy where we learn to grow our own food and provide our basic necessities. That will probably require some of the population to move out of big cities, decentralizing in general.


How do we get there? I dunno, but if we don't move in that direction I don't think our prospects for survival are too great. Perhaps things have to get much worse before people can wake up out of their stuppor and understand that they are living in a make believe reality. A full blown economic collapse would help shake things up pretty good, and is probably an inevitability.

But none of this matters if we don't figure out how to GET THE PSYCHOPATHS OUT OF POWER AND KEEP THEM OUT OF POWER. I guess that's the crux of the matter. Until we get leaders who actually have consciences, rather than leaders who view the masses as lunch, then we will just continue being eaten for lunch.
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Hi,  Just to put in some

Submitted by juandelacruz on Sun, 2007-11-04 02:30.

Hi,  Just to put in some positive examples of reform:

Argentina seems to have broken through and defied the international financial system.  It's people were so satisfied with the reforms that they voted for the wife of the incumbent president.

Venezuela also took a big step in breaking its previous relationship with the US and may have survived attempts by the CIA to replace its current government.  They have  a ways to go but at least took a big positive step in getting president Chavez who was from outside the usual political elite.

Both cases relied on elections (good for them).

Now for the negative case:  The Philippines has been changing administrations through elections and revolt within the last 20+ years.  In every change, the next administration was corrupt as well.  The parties that are capable of attaining power are almost self selectively corrupt.  The potentially clean parties never had a chance, machinery wise, during elections. 

Despite the corrupt administrations, people are adapting and improving their economic standing.  A big contribution comes from Filipinos working outside the country and remiting foreign currency.  Attempts at reform are almost grassroots in nature.  We have election watchers at the lowest level who are exposing irregularities at the cost of their lives.  We also had a recently elected Governor (a priest who ran against a powerful dynasty) who exposed bribery in the presidential palace.   I know that real reform will come our way one of these days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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