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Credibility Ratings - Rate the 9/11 Truth Personalities in Order of Credibility |
PollCan Maduro get a fair trial from Alvin Hellerstein? Of course, Judge Hellerstein is a jurist with integrity. 0% No, Judge Hellerstein works on behalf of the Zionist deep state. 0% Whether he does or not is irrelevant, Maduro is part of the op. 0% He will be bribed into pleading guilty to something minor. 100% Other (specify in comments.) 0% Total votes: 1
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let me know if I missed anyone!
and i'll add them
I started doing this...
and realized that it's a lot more complicated than a linear scale.Â
sort of but I think numbers will compensate
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way to complicated, imo.
i started it too, but when i got to the point of having to re-scale all the ones i did cause i forgot that other one, i just gave up.
yeah it was tough...
the way to do it i think is to go through the list each time and pick the most credible remaining, not try to go randomly...
hmmm, i already voted but
hmmm, i already voted but the selections got switched around. now 911truth.org and Alex Jones are the same choice?
you're looking at the results i think
they're tied... i think you can cancel your vote and redo it if you want to go back and change...
yep, my fault, it was the
yep, my fault, it was the results i was looking at.
i'm surprised PDS is doing so well...
isn't he kind of softcore on 9/11 truth? have i misjudged him?
Well, a very close reading of his new book
would be an interesting project. I read "The Road to 9/11" with a pencil in hand and did a lot of underlining (it's part of my "process") and took special care to mark passages that I thought could be read either as supporting the arab/muslim myth or leaving space for the reader to reject it. His explanation of the "deep political' decision making clusterfucks that got us into this mess complement my growing sense that multiple players with multiple, overlapping agendas pulled it off.
But you see my major hedge:Â he either appears softcore or merely creates a textual space for his reader to be hardcore -- he is not overtly hardcore EVER and that is why he got published by a mainstream academic press.Â
whoa, Jonny Gold has surged!
More credible than We Are Change? Who knew!!
foul!
clearly the point totals are rigged around here like they are on blogger :-)
we are fair and balanced
I'm pretty sure anyone, even annoymice, can vote so this is list is definitive. thanks kate for the suggestions... I did forget Bollyn. Dewdney barely registers on my radar but i suppose if you vouch for him... Rense isn't much of a truther himself is he? Now, I don't know if I can add people and not screw up the existing votes, and also it's hard enough with 21 to perform the ranking, so maybe next time? :)
haha, i was just joking
haha, i was just joking because Jon was getting voted down like crazy over at blogger a couple weeks back and flipped out and blamed point manipulation. Rense doesnt have any credibility, i'll read his site for fun sometimes, thats about it.(though to be fair ive found some interesting stuff on his site in the past that has checked out). hes sort of like Tom Flocco or Wayne Madsen, interesting to read but should always be taken with a grain of salt.
I should add...
And Cass or Tahooey can confirm... I set the votes to be secret so even we admin 'types can't see who voted how, so if you really want to support Jonny, don't feel inhibited!
Complex for an indecisive sort such as myself,
but where's my man, Christopher Bollyn?
Jeff Rense? does he rate?
Thierry?
Physics911 with Dewdney, et. al.
Lazlo Toth?
"but where's my man, Christopher Bollyn?"
"but where's my man, Christopher Bollyn?"
Here?
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/318#comment-3200
After having glanced at some
After having glanced at some of the other posts on here about Bollyn I'll have to read more of his work. The brief time I've spent reading any of his stuff has left me interested in what he has to say. He hasn't used any propaganda techniques that I have seen. He was flamed big time over at 911blogger which was something that caught my attention and I wouldn't have read anything about him if it weren't for that. Could someone post a few links of his most pertinent info to date? I caught the bit on the major drug ties. Major black market sales are supposed to net about 10% of the world money transactions every year. Silly prohibition #2!
well, whadya know..thanks dicktator!
not sure about the monetary angle of this.....but, the research is riveting.
i just wish he would be more discriminating in differentiating "jews" and "zionists"! this one fault has turned many off to his otherwise incredible research. in my opinion
Great Minds
The other voters are on my wavelength. Definitely Steven Jones/Ryan/Griffin/Gage are the big four. Everyone in the top 10 is mainly positive and credible. Dylan/Loose Change is appropriately sitting on the fence between helpful and not helpful with the median score of 11th place. And the bottom 10 have well earned their disrepute.
Another way to rate the credibility of truthers: by category.
I woke up this a.m. thinking about how to sort out these people, so thought i would pass it by:
Only 5 categories, thus there could be more than one in each. I find it easier to think in these terms. (and I thought only men compartmentalize?)
1. First Rate: Intellecutal integrity a must. Research is spot-on, informative and courageous - not afraid of controversy and conflict.
2. Second Rate: Gets the publicity, reaches the newbies, asks the right questions, spurs further investigation. May be controversial.
3. Third Rate: Wishy-washy, mediocre. Avoids the controversial, plays it totally safe.
4. Fourth Rate:Â Has used disinfo. Fallen-from-grace truthers, but not quite 5th rate.
5. Fifth Rate: Beware of their MO. Deception-Disinfo/shills.
What about Kevin?
Hey Kate,
rating methods
hey there, Alek.
Yeah, you got a point about folks falling through cracks. feel free to tweak these categories.
 the way i see it, it's about "personalities" in 9/11 truth movement, so even though Sofia is not a top notch intellectual researcher, she definitely has gotten the message out there with a very good DVD. Give her a 2.
Kevin B? i like Kevin Barrett - especially how he bravely, but courageously confronted Amy Goodman, despite being put down. given him a 2 for me. i'm more forgiving, i guess...
it's really what you as an individual believe, anyway, when you vote on these things.
now how to set this up...hmm. will have to get back, or be my guest!
good suggestions all around
And I was just kidding when I said to Chris this list was definitive! When the question is raised (as Arabesque recently did) of who you can trust, I think it's important for us to reflect on credibility and how we can determine it. I am a big believer in "truth in numbers", that added together, all of our opinions and gut feelings carry a lot more weight--the signal to noise ratio goes way up, if you will. It may not mean much that one person is 8 and the other 9, but the difference between 1 and 20 is of course pretty significant, and this only with 10 voters. I magine if we had some similar system used nationwide, with lots and lots of users. If we've gotten people to think about who they trust/believe and why we've done our bit for now--baby steps to freedom! :)
I encourage other users to make their own polls, multiple choice questions, etc. It's all in "the droop!"
tweaked up version..
still have to develop into poll format. later, kater