Jews Declaring Independence From Israel - Thank G-d!!

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http://www.alternet.org/story/62618/

 

For American Jews, Dissent Against Israel Has Become Mainstream

By Tony Karon, Tomdispatch.com. Posted September 15, 2007.

The exceedingly narrow range of "correct opinion" on Israel for American Jews isn't holding together like it used to. Is a Jewish glasnost coming to America?

First, a confession: It may tell me that I hate myself, but I can't help loving Masada2000, the website maintained by militant right-wing Zionist followers of Rabbi Meir Kahane. The reason I love it is its D.I.R.T. list -- that's "Dense anti-Israel Repugnant Traitors" (also published as the S.H.I.T. list of "Self-Hating and Israel-Threatening" Jews). And that's not because I get a bigger entry than -- staying in the Ks -- Henry Kissinger, Michael Kinsley, Naomi Klein, or Ted Koppel. The Kahanists are a pretty flaky lot, counting everyone from Woody Allen to present Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on their list of Jewish traitors. But the habit of branding Jewish dissidents -- those of us who reject the nationalist notion that as Jews, our fate is tied to that of Israel, or the idea that our people's historic suffering somehow exempts Israel from moral reproach for its abuses against others -- as "self-haters" is not unfamiliar to me.

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Big_D's picture

Kissinger on the S.H.I.T list?!?!

On the same list as Finkelstein? I'm at a loss for words.

Tahooey's picture

thanks for the link

Enjoyed the article - I think this concept needs constant exposure:

"Rosenfeld is suggesting that, to take an honest look at either the occupation or the events of 1948,
as so many Israeli writers, journalists, and politicians have done, is
to "delegitimize" Israel and promote anti-Semitism."

looking back it's odd to think that this road is a direct
continuation of the 9/11 truth highway... but i didn't take any exits, and here i am...

Lazlo Toth's picture

Hello to all the WTCD castaways, guests, and hall monitors,

This is just to let you know that I have completed gathering all the Many Pieces of info for the second part of “Wired for Terror” and am presently fitting them all together [with cited references]. Wow, by the time we get through this and the final parts of the article, we will all have a pretty solid understanding of what is going on in the present zeitgeist by seeing historically how it all developed and what the underlying ideologies and psychological underpinnings are. And yes, at the root of these many events over the last century is an ideology called Zionism. To understand 9/11, and all that has come before it, we must understand what Zionism is, what its serious conflicts with Judaism are, and the history of its ever-evolving militant path of violence, deceit, and fascism that it has traveled since the 1930s, affecting the century of history that we think we know, but do not.

Beginning with an analysis of the foundational and seminal work of Zionism – “Der Judenstaat” – the 1898 dream of Theodor Herzl for a utopian, socialist Jewish state built in a “barren, depopulated land” which was to be freely given to the “Jewish people” by a European power, this text reveals to us all the seeds and roots behind the ideas and actions of much of what we have seen so far. The patterns of the past reveal the underpinnings of the patterns seen in the present. When all the pieces of the puzzle are scattered, it is quite hard to see the picture, but when the puzzle is all put together, it is very amazing and horribly confirming. This is as much of an amazing journey for me as it will be for you to get to read all of these things, which are usually never assembled together side-by-side, in one place. I am doing all of this so you don’t have to.

Warm regards to all,

Lazlo

gretavo's picture

im on tthe can

:D :D blogging from my archos 704... this shit rocks... literally!

larry horse's picture

lazlo is goin down in the new history books

i'll believe in anything, and you'll believe in anything. y'all are so much cooler than i could have imagined/////////////

Annoymouse's picture

dude easy on the slash

you are tripping out, too much LSD horse man...

larry horse's picture

the horse is all-natural

the chemicals have been left for you. ingest, digest, or fuck them all.  your choice.  your march.

Real Truther's picture

dude, some of your posts...

n/t Tongue out

kate of the kiosk's picture

ralph, can you hear me?

ralph, can you hear me?

kate of the kiosk's picture

ralph, can you hear me?

ralph, can you hear me?

gretavo's picture

ralph isn't here

is he?

kate of the kiosk's picture

no

as far is i know, but i invited him to join in. that line i believe he uses from timothy leary on his shows.. and that's as far as i'm going, darlin

kate of the kiosk's picture

so we don't have to

and, in my case, might not be capable of assembling in an appropriate manner. you're the dude, Laz.

hey, by the way, do you think Christopher Bollyn is an anti-semite? or is the jury still out?

warmest regards to you and yours,

Katie 

 

kate of the kiosk's picture

oops, didn't check what Laz had to say under the bollyn thread

back later

Tahooey's picture

"so we don't have to"

i was thinking the exact same thing: "so we don't have to" - no - because somebody has to!

I thank you for it and who knows, with any luck hopefully one day our great great grandchildren may thank for you for it too, the way we look back on Thomas Paine's "common sense" now!