Bollyn on Mukasey nomination

kate of the kiosk's picture

http://islamic-intelligence.blogspot.com/2007/09/bush-nominates-zionist-jewish-judge.html

i am so disgusted by this nomination.  part of the plan to implant giuliani as president.

welcome in the new american fasciozionist regime.  wake up people!

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casseia's picture

Thanks, Kate

This article is interesting but also is an example of why people are skeptical of Bollyn.  It is very disturbing to me to see figures like Mukasey and Lieberman connected on the basis of their shared identity as "Orthodox Jews."  Their religion is not the problem, as we know -- there are Orthodox Jews who are anti-Zionists and certainly many, many Orthodox Jews who are apolitical.  When Bollyn carelessly conflates Jewish identity with Zionist identity, he is undermining the work of all of us here.  (And actually I'm not convinced it is not knowing and deliberate on his part.)

kate of the kiosk's picture

Hey Cass, point taken

i have tried to reply 3-4 times but keep getting internal server error - what a waste of time!

Big_D's picture

I see what you're saying, Cass.

And I agree we're already dealing with a volatile enough subject in Zionism. Though personally I believe religion poisons the mind & spirit. And let's face it, orthodox Judaism isn't that far removed from Zionism. Just as Islamic teachings aren't that far removed from radical Islam.

While I applaud those religious 'folk (whatever religion they inherit at birth.) that try to take the good from their religion, there still remaining in their religious text are the excuses to commit untold atrocities.

After all, why does Israel supposedly have the right to exist? 'Cause the real estate broker in the sky promised the Jews this land. They're 'Gods chosen people', give me a break, I thought we were past the dark ages when religion ruled the land.

Then you find out the founder of Zionism was an Athiest that devised a way to manipulate religion for the benefit of a few and I have to think, "what's new?". I think most religious leaders & zealots don't believe what they preach, but the Sheeple do, and that's all that matters.

Sorry if I seem to be ranting, I just think a world without religious dogma would be a much better place.

gretavo's picture

amen, big_D, amen

you nailed it

Lazlo Toth's picture

Real Rabbis Hate Zionism

Actually, real Orthodox Judaism, from the 1898 publication of Theodor Herzl’s “Der Judenstaat” onwards, has been consistently and vehemently opposed to the heretical, secular idea of establishing a Zionist state and army. In the second part of my article I am going to be dealing with this very real and historic fight that the orthodox rabbis of the late 19th century and early 20th century had with Herzl and his Zionist movement - a movement that the rabbis of the time considered “a cancer upon the Jewish people” and the “work of Satan.” They considered Hitler’s rounding up of the Jews as “fifth column” political detainees to be God’s punishment for the sin of Zionism. They consider the Zionists to be the modern-day “worshippers of the Golden Calf.” They consider the Zionists to be the real enemies of the Jewish people and Zionism to be the primary cause of all anti-Semitism in the 20th century. They consider the term “secular or non-practising Jew” to be complete nonsense. If you are secular and non-practising, you cannot call yourself a Jew, for Judaism is a faith, not a race, and not an ethnicity - at least, according to the Torah and certain “tractates” of the Talmud, but the Zionists spit upon the words of God and the sages of the faith. Nobody knows about this historic debate that occurred within the Jewish community, because, as Rabbi Dovid Yisrael Weiss has mentioned in a letter I will be citing from later, “the real voice of Judaism has never been allowed to speak through the American Zionist-controlled Media.” You also never hear the voices of orthodox rabbis complaining about the “the American Zionist-controlled Media,” but now, thanks to the Free Press of the Internet, you do. The real rabbis of Judaism make a large and pronounced distinction between the ancient faith of Judaism and the heretical, modern concocted ideology of deceit and cynical manipulation known as Zionism.

As Big D has correctly mentioned, and this is also confirmed and revealed by Herzl himself in his original Zionist manifesto -- the Zionist movement consciously, as a tactic, exploited the religious simplicity and notion of the average Jew in order to acquire and build their secular state and future empire. The poor and desperate Jews of Eastern Europe, with their simple faiths, were to go to Palestine and build the infrastructure of the state, after which the wealthier Jews of Europe would then cruise in comfort into a pre-fab Jewish State built for them by the desperate and gullible.

It is also from the angry correspondence of orthodox rabbis of WWII Europe that we learn about the treacherous Zionist-Nazi alliances and backroom deals used to create the impression of a “Holocaust” so that the Zionist organizations will have the leverage power of “guilt” at the post-war table when the conquered territories are divided up. The Zionist movement, and Herzl himself, also built their case for a Jewish State through the exploitation of the culturally ingrained, cultivated, and unifying power of the “us against the World” notion. This idea, of course, is a common psychological reaction that would be quite natural for any minority group of persecuted or oppressed people to have, but amongst all the many persecuted and oppressed peoples of history, the Jews have elevated this notion to one possessing an almost emotional cult-like status, replete with its own body of borrowed and re-worked Near Eastern mythology and quasi-historic narrations, wherein the tribes of Israel are exaggeratedly portrayed as either “victim like no other” or “hero like no other.” How do we know that the Israelite tribes are the chosen people of the only true god YHWH, (a deity found btw in the Ugaritic texts of polytheistic Canaanite mythology)? The Israelite scribes who wrote the books of the Hebrew “Tanakh” (the Hebrew Bible) told us so. How do we know that this formerly Canaanite deity officially awarded the land of Canaan to this nomadic tribal confederation from the east? Again, the Israelite scribes who wrote the books of the Hebrew “Tanakh” told us so. This is, of course, extremely flimsy evidence upon which to violently enforce real estate hegemony over someone else’s farmlands in the modern world of rational, myth-free legal systems, but I guess, even in this time of “modern scientific man,” ancient folktales written down by anonymous authors die hard. Lord Arthur Balfour certainly got suckered in by this idea in 1917.

Tahooey's picture

"I think most religious

"I think most religious leaders & zealots don't believe what they preach, but the Sheeple do, and that's all that matters."

 that's why sometimes i think the world needs a new religion based more on science, truth, peace, justice, honesty...  if the sheeple aren't smart enough to think for themselves, maybe we'll never have a better world without a better religion (if there possibly is such a thing as a "good" religion?)?

the human collective soul is sick and needs some spiritual healing.

u know there are scientific studies of reincarnation?  Check out Jim Tucker "Life Before Life" - this stuff is documented and totally unbelievable (unless or until you accept that reincarnation is possible).  You may come away with a whole new outlook on life.  I know I did.

Annoymouse's picture

Careless journalism

I have also seen other cases of poor analysis by Bollyn on his other articles. For the same reason, I wonder whether he is a disinfo agent or just plain careless.

He does give much attention to the Zionists even at times when nobody seems to be focusing on them.

juandelacruz

kate of the kiosk's picture

jewish zionists as opposed to

christian or muslim zionists, perhaps? cryptozionists? in fact, aside from my jewish friends, most of the christian people i know - whether they be family, associates, friends - believe we should support the state of Israel before any muslim nation/people. and all those sheeple who read and watch MSM unfortunately think the same. perhaps chris is trying to differentiate here.

as a matter of fact, everywhere i turn in my 9/11 research, jewish zionists have been turning up in key power positions -within security companies ICTS/Huntleigh, System Planning Corp, FTS,  Mr. Netanyahu and friends, Mr. Zelikow and friends, Mr. Dov Zakheim and friends, Silverstein, Lowy, Eisenberg, the Kagan family, The Podhoretzes (lots of in-the-family alliances), the Chertoffs, the Harels, the Atzmons......care to add? and yet the sheeple are still thinking it was the muslims, it was the muslims, of course it had to be those evil muslims!

Lazlo will put this all together, i have faith.

In the meantime, my new religion is the "Truth & Justice" religion. anybody can join, no matter what faith background!