Anyone Doubt Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen, and Barbara Walters (The View) are Out to Harm the Cause of 9/11 Truth?
And over at 9/11 Blogger they don't seem to have a problem with it, other than Jon Gold complaining about AJ pimping his website... Nothing about the obvious attempt to link 9/11 truth with AJ's BS and some Mel Gibsonesque anti-Jewish innuendo from Sheen. "Oo he said WTC7!" they say. Now that I have pointed this out they will surely say something more on topic right?
Charlie Sheen Regrets Comments Interpreted as 'Borderline Anti-Semitic'
2:48 AM 3/1/2011 by THR staff
The troubled star drew criticism from the Anti-Defamation League for remarks made in a radio interview last week.
Charlie Sheen said he regrets making comments about Two and a Half Men co-creator Chuck Lorre that the Anti-Defamation League called "at best bizarre, and at worst, borderline anti-Semitism."
Last week in a radio interview, Sheen called Lorre "Chaim Levine."
"By invoking television producer Chuck Lorre’s Jewish name in the context of an angry tirade against him, Charlie Sheen left the impression that another reason for his dislike of Mr. Lorre is his Jewishness," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter.
During an appearance on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight on Monday, Morgan asked Sheen if he regretted his words.
"Well, yes, I do, I regret it in a way that I didn't even think about it," Sheen said. "I should have thought about it. Stupid, stupid move."
He said he would apologize to Lorre if given the opportunity and went on to explain his mindset at the time.
"I thought the rules had been established," Sheen said. "He calls me Carlos Estevez a lot, which is my real name, and then I saw the other name on his vanity card, and I said it, and the world just started burning down around me."
And does he have any regrets about his recent behavior?
"Maybe I should have been a little quieter, a little softer. But look what happens when you when decide to blaze a trail, you find out that those that can't stand the heat around them, they don't really have the guts to survive, you know?"
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and not surprisingly...
The two most negative comments (but not mentioning the anti-Jewish undertone of Sheen's interview with AJ) are from True Factioners Gold and "President Ford". Their criticism is supposed to signal that they are the "good guys" on 911blogger, who don't stand for "conspiracy theorists" like AJ.
No one at Blogger addresses his yelling, ranting .....
... demeanor. No one mentions Charlie's discussion of his "love violently and hate violently" statement nor his admission that he is proud of smoking "7gram rocks" of crack all at once.
Charley Sheen couldn't have an in depth discussion of the facts surrounding 9/11 if you offered him a pound of crack after a week-long binge.
Now that he is facing the most celebrated crash and burn in recent history, he knows his future holds nothing but an endless parade of spots on reality shows with his fellow washed-up has-beens, with him as the biggest loser of them all... and that knowledge is driving Charlie batshit crazy. He's a f-in high-school drop-out who's only claim to fame is that his father was in Apocalypse Now. He was handed the keys to the kingdom and has been given one break after the other after the other... and he blew it.
"winning!"
Do you know how much time the average young black man would have been looking at if the cops had found him with a crack-rock the size of your fist like Charlie was busted with? and how many priors does Charley have?
Instead of facing that jail-time, Charlie is on an ABC interview? This country is fucked. Period.
Of course AJ is going to have Charlie on every chance he gets. He doesn't care what it does to our image, or his for that matter... his concern is advertising and page views. That's all he cares about, all he ever cared about. So yeah, he went out there and ranted to make us look like idiots.
ABC damn sure wouldn't put David Ray Griffin on or David Chandler for that matter. So to answer your question, I have no doubt about it anymore... and for that matter, I have no doubt about Blogger either. Their megaphonies ranting support for AJ is as obvious as their hit-piece on DRG was.
Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth. JFK
Charlie Sheen couldn't
Charley Sheen couldn't have an in depth discussion of the facts surrounding 9/11 if you offered him a pound of crack after a week-long binge.
ialmao~ good one, Willy, as is your summation.
very quotable. Sheen seems to have undergone a jekyll and hyde.
doubting thomas, er dennis, here
gretavo, can you be more specific? you say that there is an “obvious attempt to link 9/11 truth with AJ's BS and some Mel Gibsonesque anti-Jewish innuendo from Sheen.” to me, it is not obvious. i acknowledge that intent may be there, but i don’t see that intent has been proven. can you pls discuss what makes the attempt so obvious to you?
this is what is obvious to me: aj is a media personality who rants and rages, incites and preys on fear, engages in crazed antics, etc. etc. and because he is a self-described “9/11 truther” who has spoken out for 9/11 truth, the crazed behavior and 9/11 truth become linked. not good for 9/11 truth, to be sure. but where is the intent to harm the cause of 9/11 Truth?
sheen is a troubled actor (see willy's earlier post for details) who appears to be in the middle of some kind of meltdown. because sheen has supported 9/11 truth in the past, again the negative connection is made, this time between a multi-millionaire with serious mental problems and 9/11 truth. again, not good for 9/11 truth, but where is the intent to harm 9/11 truth?
that being said, i would point out that if a construction worker drops a brick from the 99th floor onto the head of a pedestrian below, the damage to the pedestrian's skull would be the same whether or not the brick was dropped intentionally. so health-wise, intentionality doesn’t matter much to the victim (here, 9/11 truth by analogy).
but intent would matter if the construction worker were to be tried for murder or attmpeted murder. in that instance, it would be necessary for the prosecutor (you here) to prove intent. which is why i ask, where is the intent “to link 9/11 truth with AJ's BS and some Mel Gibsonesque anti-Jewish innuendo from Sheen?”
barbara walters is among msm hacks who are not to be trusted, to be sure, but again, how do you deduce her intent to harm 9/11 truth?
in sum, i guess the question becomes, would you allow for the possibility that the accused are not "Out to Harm the Cause of 9/11 Truth," but are doing so unwittingly?
would I allow...
...for the possibility? In general yes. With AJ, Sheen, Ventura, the View and a lot of others, no. I've observed their behavior long enough to not give them any benefit of the doubt. There are very few things in life that we act on based on 100% certified knowledge. Most of our lives we make judgment calls and see how they go, and over time learn to trust our judgment (or not, as the case may be). We may also come to trust other people's judgment calls, or not. If we were already at the point of trying these people as accessories to the cover-up then of course they should be considered innocent until proven guilty and be afforded every legal right they have under the law. We are not at that stage however, we are in the process of trying to unravel the tangled web of deceit that is 9/11 in its essence. It makes sense to me to err on the side of assuming intentionality in this process--not doing so is what causes lots of people to believe, to use just one example, in the incompetence theory of 9/11 because as I've seen oft-remarked "never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence" or some such. Never? Nonsense. I know what kind of world we live in and the kind of people who inhabit it.
ok, thanks...noted
re: “It makes sense to me to err on the side of assuming intentionality in this process.”
for the record, i try to not assume anything (except when testing hypotheses). not always successful.
re: “I've seen oft-remarked ‘never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence’ or some such. Never? Nonsense.”
agreed. better to analyze the evidence in terms of all possibilities, and see where each leads.
I tend to doubt
Alex Jones is. Charlie Sheen too, though he seems open to blackmail.
Anyway, it sounded like the audience were cheering Jones, while Walters, Goldberg, Nazi Girl and the other one appeared exasperated.
Back at Blogger, Jon Gold has taken up your challenge and posted up a list of 'BS', all of which I disagree with him about, or don't care about.
Good Morning America Interviews Bigamist Sheen
Ah, the tenth anniversary must be close!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFGqXIUPU
Sheen openly says he's Jewish
"Charlie Sheen Remembers That He's Actually Jewish on 'Access Hollywood Live' " (1 min)
infowars today
I quite enjoyed their anti-royal wedding rant, but today's 9/11 section seemed a bit extreme..
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Usually they throw some CD stuff in there for 'balance', you know?
Apparently TA lackeys jimd3100 and shure are moderators at Jones' 'Prison Planet' forum, in addition to spamming various other forums on a daily basis.
Thanks for info on jimd3100
Thanks for info on jimd3100 as moderator at Prison Planet forum. Quite early on, it did not seem that Prison Planet and 9-11blogger/TA were related or operating in concert. Now it becomes more apparent that these wacky, half truth half poison disinfo sites are a network. All possibly playing their bit even though from the outside they seem to contradict each other at times.
ostensible diversity
masking actual uniformity... shure is a mod at Prison planet? why would that not surprise me?