Iraq War Vets And Resisters Know 9/11 Was Inside Job and Need Our Help - Watch this video
He asks, to paraphrase, "if you all know 9/11 was an inside job, why are you still paying your taxes and not stopping this war machine?" There are 10,000 AWOL US soldiers in the US who refuse to continue the lie.
Facing the prospect of a second deployment to Iraq, Darrell Anderson deserted and fled to Canada, where he joined the War Resisters Support Campaign and became a vocal anti-war activist in Toronto. On September 24, 2006, Anderson told reporters he had decided to return to the US to face military authorities. After returning to the US and surrendering himself to US authorities, he received a less-than-honorable discharge from the Army, but did't receive a prison sentence or face a court martial under the terms of his surrender.
From CBC News, September 28, 2006: Anderson is quoted as saying, "I'm very critical of Canada. They're in Afghanistan doing the same things. The war on terror is all part of the wrong war.
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"desert storm guys became terrorists"?
I think he needs to keep doing his research. Also, that thing about not paying taxes, etc. is a current shill talking point.... they want to make it seem like if you know 9/11 was BS then you should be getting yourself landed in jail for one reason or another... check this out:
Sean replied to you: Greta
you are the classic narcissitic personality unable to accept
responsibility. You PAY TAXES AND ARE RESPONSBILE FOR THE ACTIONS OF
THOSE YOU ARE PAYING FOR. You dont have to pay taxes, you can vote with
your feet as you did the day you were protesting. You can
emigrate...You see A TRUE BELIEF COSTS YOU. If you believe that the US
is immoral for its support of wars in AFghanistan and Iraq and that the
US govt was behind 911, the only MORAL choices are to leave teh country
and/or lead the revolution.
YOU HAVE THIS IDEA THAT YOU ARE THE MORAL ARBITER OF THE WORLD, THAT
YOU HAVE THE MORAL ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. I will give you a clue
sister, you do not have that insight according to me. I believe in just
war doctrine (look it up, it will blow your mind)...Saddam Hussien was
almost the definition of evil...if you do not believe so, you are
ignorant beyond words...there was easily a moral imperative to take him
and his sadistic sons out....was it done correctly, did it cause more
damage than was necessary? Of COURSE IT DID, due to the Ivy League
idiots in charge.... not much different then McNamara and his crew of
arrogant ass kissing ignorant IVY league yahoos..sound familiar....maybe
you went to school with their kids...
BUT OF COURSE, THE PERSON WHO DOES NOT WANT TO RISK, HOW DID YOU SAY
IT 'we will go to prison and lose our freedom and livelihoods"
actually believes in something that is worth a risk like that? I know
people like that....around them everyday...they are called Soldiers....
Hmmm what would you give you up for such a big belief of yours"
Your slam against soldiers with the Nurnberg quote is noted...but here
is a clue miss might lose your livelihood...Soldiers sign a blank check
with their lives to a belief...something you cannot fathom...that belief
is in a document, an idea it is for the overall good of a Democratic
govt governed by the RULE OF LAW...they even trust all those Ivy League
judges...you would those Soldiers stupid or suckers (just like your
elders from the 60s and 70s) but at least they are willing to put their
ass on teh line for their belief...YOU might lose your job...yea, you
have a belief that you are willing to sacrifice for...Ha
You could have taken a case to court and said the law was
illegal....but you did not...you could have done the same with your so
called ideas about 911...but you did not...yet Soldiers field an Army
that goes where it is told by a democratically elected govt ruled by
law...obviously you do not believe that or you would have started your
court case, with every last dime you had to take your case to the courts
and prove that your view is correct...and then once YOU PROVE IN A
COURT OF LAW THAT THE WAR WAS ILLEGAL AND IMMORAL, you could go after
those soldiers you so RESPECT for war crimes based on the Nurnberg
trials...
And YOU ARE NOT UNDER DURESS TO PAY TAXES. You have an easy MORAL
CHOICE if you actually had a belief, like those Soldiers do...like
Soldiers that you sent to war with your money, of whom I know a couple
who have died over there and more that have been wounded...your choice
is to stop paying taxes....but if this place is so Immoral, then your
choice is to leave and not pay for this unambiguous horror in your
opinion...but hey, if it was a real belief, which for you it is
obviously not, you would sacrifice for it like those Soldiers do for
their beliefs.
Never tell me you respect Soldiers after that Nurnberg statement. I will call you out for your lie.
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In other comments he was suggesting that if I believe in my "9/11 conspiracy theories" I should be arming myself per the 2nd amendment. Keep an eye on the talking points, folks, they tell us a lot about how the PTB are trying to manage this....
Nope, that is not what he said
"they want to make it seem like if you know 9/11 was BS then you should be getting yourself landed in jail for one reason or another."
No, that is not what people are saying. Find a way to make a living without paying federal income taxes. No one is saying you should go to jail. I have managed to not pay federal income taxes for 10 years because I have not had a reportable income over the tax threshold for that period of time. I do things more creatively. Yes, I have had to give up some conveniences, but I have everything I need. Think outside the box and be creative. That's what people are saying. But seriously, why feed the war machine? Because you can't think of any creative ways not to? Because it is inconvenient? Well, there is a moral dilemma, there, if you KNOW your taxes are being used to fund these atrocities. Do you disagree?
As far as the line, "desert storm guys became terrorists", Darrell Anderson is using that in the Orwellian way that the PTB and media define resisters as terrorists. It does not mean that Anderson thinks they are terrorists. If you listen to the context, he explains that the resisters are not terrorists, they are people with sandals who are killing American soldiers whose kids or other family members were killed by American soldiers.
C'mon Gretavo, I know you are a devil's advocate and uber-skeptic, but I think you're being a bit overly nitpicky here. This guy never said anything along the lines of you should go to jail or arm yourself with guns and violently resist - that is a straw man argument. If you really think this is the "PTB managing this" then you are being a bit paranoid/overly defensive. The guy has a powerful message and is helping people to understand all of the Orwellian discourse, etc. The context should be clear enough when you listen to the whole speech.
But then again...
maybe if a million of us were willing to go to jail, we could stop the war. I don't know what the answer is. But I do know that many people who are "anti-war" should be willing to perhaps do a little more sacrificing than they have been doing so far. During the Vietnam war, it seems that people were willing to do more personal sacrifices to stop the war.
yep, sure could get a lot of truthing done from jail
People who went to jail in protest of Vietnam could be sure that millions of people who were NOT in jail would continue the struggle. If sincere 9/11 activists are duped into wasting time getting themselves arrested as if that is going to get any attention these days that would be just fine with the 9/11 perps. Why do you think Jon Gold made a big show of his bogus civil disobedience? Because emulating Cindy Sheehan would make the 9/11 truth movement as successful and well-respected as she is, i.e. not at all.
you missed the point
When millions of people are WILLING to go to jail, we can stop this. There is no way they can process a million people into jail. We would clog up the system. Obviously we are not there yet. If only a few hundred or thousand people are willing to go to jail it probably won't work. It's about large scale civil disobedience, which has been used for civil rights and anti war and other social justice movements in the past.
Obviously, Jon Gold's little publicity stunt didn't do shit, other than make him seem important. Not the same, at all.
I did not say that 9/11 activists "should be duped into wasting time getting themselves arrested". Rather, I was referring to the 100 million or so of Americans who claim to be anti-war. If even a small fraction of them were willing to do large scale civil disobedience, as was done in the 60s and 70s, then I think we would be MUCH MUCH further along in ending the war.
It's about ending the war. 9/11 truth is just a means to an end. One of many that need to be done.
Do you really think that all of the historical non-violent civil disobedience throughout history, in which large numbers of people were willing to put their bodies on the line for a cause and even go to jail (with large numbers of their brothers and sisters) did not accomplish anything?
you're wrong keenan
"I also knew about the desert storm guys who became terrorists--but all of a sudden in Kentucky because it was some BROWN people, people in Kentucky were lookin at me like I was a terrorist"
He's obviously comparing the white desert storm veteran McVeigh with the brown alleged 9/11 terrorists, making the point that people weren't suspicious of all white people after OKC, but that he felt suspicion as a not so white white person in Kentucky after 9/11. This talk was given at the Chandler conference in Arizona in 2007, which was a controlled op from beginning to end, with Fetzer, YT, Jon Gold, Tarpley, fake Nazi-truther Eric Williams and lord knows how many other agents in attendance.
Seems bizarre for you to be posting this years-old clip at around the same time some trolls have been hitting me with arguments that sound suspiciously like what this guy was saying.
I concede that I misunderstood the reference to McVeigh
But it seems most likely that he is aware of the fact that most of the so-called terrorist attacks are fake at this point and he seemed to be making many references to Orwellian definitions of "terrorists". One person's freedom fighter and resister is another person's terrorist. That sort of thing.
But you are still wrong in attempting to use the straw man argument that he is telling the American people to pick up guns and violently resist, or to go to jail by not paying taxes. If you can't see the difference between what this guy is saying and that troll that you quoted, then I don't know what to say. You really see nothing of value in his message and discussion of the situation in Iraq, and with veterans and war resisters? Really?
sure, he makes some valid points
but I'm left wondering after watching this video whether this guy is either underinformed or... what. and I don't like being told by anyone that I or anyone else is somehow not committed to doing the best we can for the cause of 9/11 truth because we do not take the road that others feel is the only morally correct one. the things that worked in the 1960s do not really work anymore. 9/11 is not the Vietnam War. and most people who were "active" in the 60s ended up giving it all up and becoming useless followers of the "mainstream" left. if "dropping out", or getting off the grid or whatever makes you the best advocate for 9/11 truth that you can be then great, I'm happy for you and wish you luck supporting our shared cause. and I do apologize for saying that your posting this now was suspicious--that wasn't called for. but you should know by now that I look at anything posted here with an eye to sussing out credibility, and to me this guy is if not suspect then just not very good on the subject of 9/11. Has he done anything related to 9/11 since this event in 2007? Has he made his specific views on 9/11 any more clear?
As long as the war machine stays fully funded, how do you expect
anything to change? At this point our political system is a joke. Our elections are fixed and democracy has been sold to the highest bidder. The only thing left to me seems to be to either do civil disobedience en masse or to boycot the system that funds the war machine. I'm not questioning anybody's commitment here and you have made much more effort and spent more time trying to do outreach, etc., than most people who claim to be activists have done. The question is what if this is not enough? What do we do next?
The US is a plutocracy. So far the PTB just mock us and laugh at us. People can piss and moan all they want about the war, about environmental destruction, about the corruption, the loss of our civil liberties, the unjust economic system, etc., but at this point what do the elites care? We piss and moan while they keep collecting our tax money and their corporate monopolies keep taking our money and laughing all the way to the bank. Literally. How is this going to change anything?
The only think left at this point is to use the numbers game to our advantage. There are more of us than them. We, the people can shut down this system overnight if people were willing to act in solidarity and stop funding this genocidal system.
Seriously, how are you expecting anything to change otherwise at this point if there is not some sort of boycott of the US war machine? I just don't see anything else working at this point. Iraqis, Afghanis, Palestinians, etc., are not able to really effect the US regime, but we who are US citizens and live within its borders and enjoy the relatively privileged standard of living (compared with most of the world) are the ones who have the most capacity and leverage to effect change. What would Iraqis, etc., tell us Americans if they could speak to us directly? Would it be reasonable to ask the American people to make perhaps one twentieth of the personal sacrifice as they have had to make in order to try to stop the war? What about one hundredth? How much effort or personal sacrifice is called for for those Americans who are consciously aware of how their tax dollars that they willingly fork over are used to keep this genocidal machine going?
100% agree
All the truth wont matter if there is nobody willing to lose their job or take a pay cut or lose advertising dollars to oppose the PTB. At some point someone for truth has to effect substantial change. Right now, the perps hold all the cards, they control US nuclear weapons. They can end the world as we know it if nobody takes away the keys from their hands.
My secret fear is that enough US soldiers already know 9-11 truth, and if not that, certainly that the Iraq war is not justified. But all of them are more concerned about making their next paycheck. With the US economy down, getting a job in the military is the only option for some. This is a vicious cycle unless it is broken by concerted action.
What is the US doing in Iraq upto now, and why are there new recruits still showing up for deployment in Iraq. This is a total sham maintained by exploiting human nature, but it is extremely effective and its consequences are sadly horrendous on Iraq
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i think tarpley talks a lot of sense, and not just on 911. he called out the faction years ago after the 'loose nukes' affair..
http://911blogger.com/node/22146
putting him in the same list as yt and gold is bizarre to me.. why do you think he's an op?