Abe Foxman, Holocaustâ„¢ Denier

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August 27 2007
Abe Foxman's Genocide Denial Roadshow, Part 2
ADL's Foxman's Forges Impossible Alliance of Armenians, Turks and Boston-Area Jews
By JOHN V. WALSH
Last week CounterPunch was the only national outlet, to the best of our knowledge, to report the disturbances caused in the Boston suburb of Watertown over denial of the Armenian genocide by the national Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and its director, Abe Foxman. The brouhaha was set off by an investigation into Watertown's participation in "No Place for Hate," an "anti-bigotry" program of uncertain origin. Mirabile dictu, the program turned out to be sponsored by the national ADL which denies that the massacre of 1.5 million Armenians at the hands of the Turks from 1915 to 1923 amounted to a genocide. This was quite disconcerting to the town mothers and fathers since Watertown boasts an Armenian-American population in excess of 8000. The town council met to consider the program and the local director of ADL, one Andrew Tarsey, showed up to implore them not to withdraw from the program. Met with boos and hisses by the duly assembled Watertown citizenry, Tarsey beat a hasty retreat from the Council chambers. The Watertown mothers and fathers then unanimously voted to drop the ADL program.
The next day Tarsey, now in full rout, reversed his position, labeling the killing of 1.5 million Armenians a genocide after all. Problem is that this local ADL position contradicts the position of national ADL headed by Abe Foxman, which persists in denying the Armenian genocide. Foxman's solution  fire local ADL leader Tarsey. And for good measure, he labeled the Watertown position as "bigoted," thus playing the "race card." Obviously the Watertownians must be anti-Semites, a charge Foxman cannot resist, if they will not sponsor an ADL program. However, in a challenge to Foxman, the local ADL and Jewish establishment, seeing their credibility slip sliding away here in the Athens of America, decided to affirm the Armenian genocide.
But the House of Reps. in US Congress has a resolution pending with 227 co-sponsors (a clear majority) recognizing the Armenian genocide, much to the consternation of Turkey, an ally of Israel's and also an avid buyer of Israeli arms and an ally of the U.S. So what was Foxman to do? Like Solomon, Foxman opted for a split decision, but unlike Solomon, Foxman has tried to execute it. He said in Boston that he has reversed his decision and the ADL now considers the Armenian massacre "tantamount to genocide." ("Tantamount"?) But in Washington national ADL will continue to oppose the Congressional resolution, recognizing the Armenian genocide. So in Boston the massacre of Armenians is genocide but in Washington it is not. What the status will be in NYC or Baltimore, Foxman has yet to decide.
The Armenians, both locally and nationally, will have none of this. They want the ADL to support the Congressional resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide or else stand accused as genocide deniers. So now both the Armenians and the local Boston ADL are at odds with Foxman and national ADL.
Enter the Turks. They too have denounced Foxman for admitting genocide in Boston even if he has not done so in Washington. And they are angry about it. Foxman laid his original genocide denial at the feet of the Turks, saying he feared for the safety of Jewish Turks if he crossed the Turks. Friday the Turkish Foreign Ministry responded, "The Jewish community in Turkey is part of our society, and its members do not have any reason to worry." Clearly the Turks do not like Foxman's accusations of anti-Semitism, any more than the Watertownians did. The Turks then one-upped Foxman, claiming that his Boston recognition of the Armenian genocide denies the special nature of the Holocaust. "We consider the statement of the ADL as an injustice to the unique character of the Holocaust, as well as to the memories of its victims," the Turkish Foreign Ministry in Washington said in a statement. "We expect it to be rectified." There you have it, Abe Foxman, Holocaust denier! So Foxman now has accomplished what has eluded diplomats for nearly a century, bringing Armenians and Turks together  in this case in opposition to national ADL. And he has even brought down a Turkish charge against his own proper respect for the Holocaust!
Foxman of course is little more than an intellectual bully, sliming with charges of anti-Semitism whomever dares challenge the policies of Isreal. But his defamatory, anti-defamation league is in trouble. Foxman's actions now put the fabled and hitherto invincible Isreali Lobby on the line. The Turks certainly must have thought that the Lobby could "deliver" Congress on genocide denial, and Foxman's ADL is a key component of that Lobby. The Turks have already complained to Israel about the ADL's Boston-Washington split decision. This is very important to them, having hired both Dick Gephardt, former House Majority Leader and Bob Livingston (Remember him?) former Speaker of the House at considerable cost to get Congress on their side. So the battle lines are drawn. CounterPunch will keep you posted.
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Have you read this book?
http://www.jewishracism.com/JewishGenocide.htm
I ran across this a few month's back. I asked if you had read it & had an opinion. I figured you didn't since I didn't get a reply. So far I've read the first two chapters. I'm currently reading five different books, a few you recommended. (Almost finished with 'Jewish History, Jewish Religion'. An excellent read btw, thanks for recommending it.) It will put this ongoing attempt at suppressing the truth of the Armenian genocide, and the problems it would create, in context.
I'm reading JHJR too --
almost done, with Open Secrets ready to go in the basket by my bed. This guy is fantastic reading for those troubled by goy guilt. And not to pull a gretavo or anything, but isn't it a little weird that he died "unexpectedly" in the summer before 9/11? (Like, dude, let's just get him out of the way and that's one less thing to worry about.)
hey all, glad you're enjoying shahak!
Cass, you would probably LOVE Joel Kovel's Overcoming Zionism... As for Shahak dying mysteriously, I guess I did find it suspicious now that you mention it. But hey, didn't Primo Levi only allegedly commit suicide? I think it is thought he may have been thrown off the veranda as opposed to jumping... Can I just say how much I LOVE LIFE and how I WOULD NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT COMMITING SUICIDE? Just sayin', you know...
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Powell's is very cool. I can take my chances and assume that the inventory reflected here is up-to-the minute and head to the Burnside store to mingle with hipsters and snag the one remaining copy, or I can order it online and have it sent to the Hawthorne store -- in my nabe -- and go pick it up there. End commercial
My point actually was that no one has commented on this book yet, and if you comment you get a chance to win! Something! But you do have to register.
Overcoming Zionism at Powells
twenty seven bucks???
Yikes! Cass, I can mail it to you, then you can mail it to someone else at WTCD... we could start a book circle and save lots of dough! A virtual public library a la netflix! netboox!! Oh smack! I mean Netbooxâ„¢ it's MINE MINE MINE!!!!!
Are you serious?
This is a great idea -- I would definitely do this, but I wonder if other users (and you) are too paranoid about mailing addresses. (I mean, not like we're going to post them online or anything, but some people...)
well...
we wouldn't make them public of course, and you only need to give your address to one person in the chain...
sorry if I missed the original question BigD
I thought it was fantastic, yes. It's amazing how complex Judaism actually is what with the "unified front" provided in the media. Apparently even more complex than Shahak lets on... Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed is a huge tome that has a lot of food for thought. Reed is slightly controversial but not enough to forsake reading COZ, which is an incredibly dense epic history of Zionism.
The book begins with an explanation of the role that the tribe of Judah (one of the 12 tribes of Israel) played in introducing the notion of racial exclusivity into the older monotheistic tradition that forms the core of the Torah, the 10 commandment type stuff that Reed says was seen as universal (i.e. not only for their benefit) by the 10 northern tribes of Israelites. Apparently those tribes all integrated themselves into the world around them and thus "died" to the Judah, though some of their prophets apparently made it into the Torah so that one finds a tension between the older universalist vision of a loving god and the Judah-inspired view of a vengeful jealous and race-conscious god.
So the name Israel according to Reed is almost like an inside joke because the Judeans were actually rejected by their fellow Hebrews in the north, the Israelites. I'm still pretty confused, but it prompted me to buy an annotated 5 Books of Moses to see for myself what the heck is going on!
And that's not even STARTING with the Talmud, or I should say the commentary collectively know as the Talmud. Both the Palestinian and Babylonian collections. Oy vey, I can see why most Jews go secular, or at least Reform... :)
No problem.
I knew the subject would arise again & this story is the perfect segue.
So, It appears that the American Turkish Council (ATC)...
is a spin off of AIPAC and is nothing more than a covert illegal arms dealing, Military-Industrial-Congressional lobby.
This rabbit hole is getting deep fast.
http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Have_Turkish_Agents_Penetrat...
"Ryland: The ATC is basically a mini–AIPAC – in fact it was established using the AIPAC model, I believe. It had the same people on the board, common members etc. It is basically the Turkish version of AIPAC, the Israeli lobby group. The ATC is basically, as Sibel says “an association in name and in charter only, the reality is that it and other affiliated associations are the U.S. government, lobbyists, foreign agents, and Military Industrial Complex.â€
So the members include people like the CEO of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, Northrup Grumman, and Boeing, I presume (I’m not sure). So it’s basically a lobbying group for the Military Industrial Complex."
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/02/28/luke-ryland/