I have apparently been blocked by 911 Blogger

Unless there is some glitch, my account on 911Blogger has been blocked.
"The username Real Truther has not been activated or is blocked."
That's what I get when I try to log in... no message from any admin to explain why this may have happened, either.

My last comment on Blogger
before being blocked (I will start saying banned if I'm not unblocked soon!) was a reply to someone who asked in the nyczeitgeist thread if I really believe in god. Here's my answer to them:
Let me assume you doubt that I do? I've actually thought quite a bit about this and for a long time was quite agnostic in part because of how poorly the concept of god and spirituality generally is approached in society. Who could not be turned off the notion of god by seeing how it is routinely abused and has been since the dawn of civilization? While I don't believe in a personalized god as described in the OT I do believe in a fundamental unity of existence that I think one could think of as god, or maybe "godness". I think that we are each as individuals part of a single whole and that that actually means something and has consequences for how we should approach life, by which I mean our lives, i.e. human life, which is unique on earth and perhaps in the entire universe. I think that our capacity for awareness not just of our individuality which I think is an illusion but of the very existence of ourselves as part of the universe, of something as opposed to nothingness, coupled with our seemingly inherent inability to grasp its fundamental nature except by non-verbal experience and reflection is a great mystery and exploring it is one of the most worthwhile aspects of being alive. I think that throughout history many individuals have lived their lives quite mindfully in the spirit of this quest and I believe that the figure of Jesus could be traced back to such an individual who by virtue of his (or her, you never know!) strength and wisdom and maybe most importantly courage brought the results of this kind of reflection to bear on those around him, on his society and government, because this spirit of oneness compels those who embrace it to manifest the positive, or light, as opposed to the negative, or dark nature of itself. I happen to think that the bible, at least the new testament, needs to be read critically with an eye to filtering out that which was piled on to the original and powerful message that lies at its core. Too many people who believe themselves to be religious or pious do not go beyond the words, which is a shame because I think one of the key messages in the NT is in fact that the holy spirit is to be found within and requires no earthly intermediary. I think the truly revolutionary message of whoever Jesus was has been lost to most, as Jesus most surely believed of his contemporaries who lost touch with the true "godness" by settling instead into a shadow of the true spirit promulgated by priests and other charlatans using the idea of god for their own personal gain. To worship idols like the cross or the crucifixion or the virgin mary or the korasn or the talmud or the star of david--to make the mistake of equating any of these with the true spirit is perhaps the worst sin and biggest folly and that all the greats like Jesus and Buddha were originally saying as much, and because inevitably over time and space the message is corrupted there are endless opportunities to remind people and ourselves of what is truly important and genuine about our spiritual experience as humans.
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
That comment is not there.
Did you check to see that it posted? It was a reply to "inside" on the last page, yes?
i found out i was banned when i tried to submit it
but it was the last time i was able to hit "reply" to any comment there... :(
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
Dude there not letting me
Dude there not letting me log in at 911 blogger fuck em
it's a PURGE!!!
how Stalinist! all hail Chairman DZ!!
Hmmm, maybe I should stage more false flag attacks against 911Blogger users in order to get them to immigrate to wtcdemo's blog! There's a concept that works!
That's right, free speech loving truthers! Escape the persecution of the evil DZ, Reprehensor, GeorgeWashington and Somebigguy cabal!
Come to the promised land of truth and free thinking! A blog without users for users without a blog!
be careful though
pretty soon we will be restricting Annoymice to special "bantustan" like enclaves just for them. I'm sorry if it comes to that, but you know how some Annoymice just can't let us blog in peace. :)
Something's weird over there...
When I click on your user name, I get the "access denied" message, which means your account is indeed blocked.
Another user has been conspicuously absent, although his account is evidently NOT blocked.
Another user?
Casseia, this is Student writing. Presumably it will come out as Anonymouse.
I no longer have enough time during the week to visit 911blogger. I still go to it on the weekends. But since I am not reading stuff all week, I do not feel up on things enough to comment, much.
Was I the user you were referring to? If not, then pardon my barging in here. But if so, the situation has nothing to do with 911B's staff but only with my own life and work needs.
Hi Student,
Yes, I noticed your post at 911b regarding your changed schedule and the fact that you couldn't visit as much. I hope you'll continue to post over there (and here) though -- knowing what you're talking about is not required!
You were not the person I had in mind, actually -- I was pussyfooting around the need to type J-O-N-G-O-L-D, who, by the way, has magically reappeared, bearing a blog about Osama chartering a plane to evacuate relatives in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.
And there are some "new" posters
Who aren't actually new users but who rarely if ever posted before, like "Anonymous".
Oh well, I knew this day would come! It's kind of a relief--now I can say what I really think about some of those people--but who will read it? Sigh...
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
I will!
I hope that is of some consolence, mon frére.
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selbstverständlich, freund!
not sure if i spelled that right but i'm sure du verstehest!
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
Joa!
Fast perfekt, nur eine kleine Korrektur: man sagt für gewöhnlich "mein Freund" -- also immer mit Possessivpronomen.
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ah, danke mein Freund!
i took German for a year and did very poorly... :(
No, that was excellent
spoken like a true beer guzzling Kraut!
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Have you emailed dz or one of the moderators?
I recommend emailing them to ask them if you have indeed been blocked. They are supposed to tell you if you were and provide you the reason.
yep, emailed dz a polite question
and no answer yet...
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
Hi,It's funny but I noticed
Hi,
It's funny but I noticed that this person Jon Gold used to blog constantly. I assumed that he was one of the organizers of the site. Then I got in a disagreement with him -- chiding him on why he stated that he only wants to look for 9/11 perps inside the us gov't. He told me that he wouldn't answer me until I've read all his blogs and postings on some other site (mybbsucks.com), which was 500 posts. I don't have time to read 500 posts, many with dead links, PLUS all his blogs (??) on 911B. (It took him longer to write that directive to me than it would have taken him to answer my question.) Then his 911B page was cut off to me, so I couldn't read his blogs. I asked him, on his next blog, if there was a technical glitch, reminded him of who I was, said I sincerely wanted to read everything he ever wrote, but he never wrote back. And from what I can see, hasn't been around much since.
I assumed when I started out at 9/11 blogger that it was all people interested in the truth, plus a few obvious shills. But I am starting to think that the core people there are against discussing any evidence that points to Israel. It's a major disappointment.
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Wasn't going to say anything about this, but...
So, are you saying that he banned you from the YBBS?
He has been conspicuously absent from 911blogger this week and I actually checked to see whether his account had been blocked. It appears to be in working order. He's actually NOT one of the site admins -- the site belongs to dz, and the other "team members" are Reprehensor, GeorgeWashington, and Somebigguy -- but he is a member of very long standing and a friend of dz's. His disappearance is quite mysterious and I do think it may be associated with RT's misfortune.
Hi Casseia - nice to "meet"
Hi Casseia - nice to "meet" you!
I wasn't blocked from ybbs; I got an "access denied" message when I tried to access Jon's page on 911B. Then it just said "page doesn't exist" or something like that. Then, after a few hours, it was back. But he seemed to vanish like a ghost. (He really protested too much when I just asked a simple question.)
I don't understand what RT said that would have resulted in his banishment. That post about religion was extremely innocuous.
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The click of Jon Gold, John Albanese, and Dem Buce Lee Styles
Yes, that Jon Gold is quite a piece of work. He can really be an ass in how he treats people on Blogger. I got into a brawl with him a few months ago on Blogger over the Pentagon issue. Basically, I couldn't put up with the disinfo crap over the Pentagon anymore - certain people trying to prop up the govt's absurd claim that AA77 hit the Pentagon while trying to attack anybody who disagreed. I ripped his pathetic arguments to shreds and left him bleeding and exposed on the Blogger floor (i.e. most of the other bloggers voted my posts up, and his down after I helped people see through his false arguments). After that, he chilled out over the Pentagon thing.
I noticed that Jon Gold, John Albanese, and Dem Bruce Lee Styles (DBLS) would operate what seemed to be this little click/team that would re-enforce each other and police the discussion away from certain issues, like when people tried to express contrary opinions to the Click's on Patsystan, Zionists, and Pentagon No Plane Theory. Sometimes it got down right creepy, like with the following exchange from last November:
John Albanese:
"Jon Gold
Our opinions and positions on so many issues are so similar - actually identical - that people are going to begin to wonder why they have never seen us in the same room together.
Your analysis of the Pentagon brew-ha-ha is quite lucid."
Jon Gold:
"I told you...
We must share the same brain.
Incidentally...
Abby Scott thought I was you."
Then, some poster suggested "Albanese and Gold need to get a room"
it would make sense that they share the same brain
since both are half wits... sorry couldn't resist. it really is all about the cliques--on 911B and in the world really. it's amazing how much the world resembles one big high school...
So, the logical question to ask is
What kind of clique do you think we are?
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i would suspect that we...
are akin to the people in high school who are picked on by the "popular" ones for being "too smart" or not "cool" enough, or "fags" (whetehr or not we're gay), before we all graduate and go on to do great things while the cool kids end up pumping gas and getting bald and flabby before they hit 30... or guzzling beer in a german pub somewhere... :)
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"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
I think "Joe" might be Jon Gold
He has a few posts up about the families and press for truth. And he's user #40.
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
No....
....I know for a fact that they are two different people.
fair enough
thanks for sharing!
Met Jon At...
I met Jon at the very first and my last PA 9/11 Visibility meeting where we (the entire group) discussed things we wouldn't discuss. Such as...holograms, nukes, no planes, and Israel.
Jon is a pretty cool guy but when I went against his speculation about the ISI / General Mahmood...I was accused of not being a 'real 9/11 truther' and such. Pretty lame considering the ISI scenario holds no water at this point.
yes, very nice
until you disagree with him at which point he turns into Mr. Hyde. That's a classic coercive personality--rewards you for being "good" punishes you for being "bad".
Oh, okay.
That means you happened upon his user page when he WAS blocked (that's happened a couple of times recently, but each time it was temporary.) He has vanished, though -- you're right -- and it's strange, because unlike those of John Albanese, Jon Gold's frequent threats that he is "quitting" 911blogger or the Truth Movement itself never seem to result in an absence of more than a few hours. (Albanese will disappear for months at a time.)
RT's religion post was innocuous, but he was blocked before posting it, so it's not the reason. My guess would be that it is a direct result of posts he made concerning the holocaust. My question is whether there was anything going on behind the scenes...
Nice to meet you, too. I hope you'll customize your avatar!
thanks for your reply...
Why do you suppose he was blocked?
As for my avatar, I don't know how to change it! I hate it! Help me!
He was blocked for being an ass...
Certain topics cause him to blow his top, primarily the Holocaust and Patsystan. He had let loose with a stream of invective in some thread, on a couple of occasions.
As for changing your avatar, you need an image that is no larger than 80 by 80 pixels. Then, if you look at your account/ user profile, you'll find a place where you can upload it. You can ask RT about it -- or I'll try to be more clear tomorrow. Right now I'm hitting the sack :)
Edit: I assumed you were asking about Jon Gold and then I decided you were asking about RT. Then I realized that the two sentences I wrote could probably apply to RT as well -- maybe substituting "Zionism" for "the Holocaust." And RT tends to stay pretty articulate even when bent out of shape -- unlike Albanese, for instance, who was reduced to calling me a "biddy."
Edit edit: I don't know why RT was blocked. He's not an ass.
i'm not sure myself
What I do know is that one of the last times I got into a multi page discussion with Jon Gold we were each asked by dz not to post on each others blogs or comments--to ignore each other in othe words. Then one day JG violated the rule and posted comments on one of my blogs (I had before that posted one comment to one of his blogs by mistake but it was a truly innocuous reply to someone else's comment) basically provoking me into another discussion with him. At that point dz wrote to me (and again he claimed also to JG) to tell me it was unfortunate that JG vilated the rules but that in my subsequent comments to him and one of his buddies (DHS)I was anti-social and as such he was giving me a final warning.
This last dust up in the zeitgeist film post was probably judged to be the last straw, this time with Diamondsarebest, a brand new user, doing the provocation by calling me jew-hater, etc. Is DAB really Jon Gold or John Albanese or DHS? Only the site admins would know, but I think it's possible that certain üsers" are just as much part of the site authority as the "admins" and their job may be to do exactly what was done to me--help the "admins" look like they are being fair and balanced by providing them with the necessary pretext for banning posters of inconvenient truths.
Whatever the case, it seems that one way or another I was going to be banned, and I didn't really care to live there as a second-class citizen so it's all good. I think that it's better to be able to critique what is happening on that site from afar than to have to "watch what I say" and be part of it. I do feel annoyed that I contributed $70 (10%) towards the cost of the dedicated server (that we never got an update on after sending our money anyway).
And yes, to those who don't know, Jon Gold is user #6 or something (I'm 86) and he has been around since the days of the old 911B site. I used to stop by occasionally at the old site and argue with Jon, one time even accusing him of being a shill (it was mutual) because he would insist that building 7 was not a good topic to focus on. I remember saying that I would probably be banned for that and dz replying with a chuckle that I would not be banned but that it was the first time he had ever heard anyone accuse JG of being a shill. Here's what dz wrote to me when I got my "final warning"...
Real Truther,
I have just locked the thread in which you and Gold had your most recent rekindling of your ongoing feud. I understand that he responded to you despite you both having been asked not to by Reprehensor while I was out of town.. obviously there is nothing you can do about that, and while I wish you wouldn't have responded I am not surprised that you felt the need to.
With that said, your comments now to DHS (another member of the site) are disconcerting to me:
I'm glad the desperation factor is kicking in to such an extent that articles like this are being linked to. Need I say more?
don't hold your breath while hoping...
on second thought... :)
DHS is another long-term member of the site who has done a lot for us (as has Jon Gold) - neither of these users deserve the suggestion you make that somehow they are representative of a larger effort to repress whatever "truth" you might believe in. Placing them in this light and making such suggestions does nothing but antagonize and further elicit arguments and feuds. I would appreciate if you would avoid this in the future. Both of these users (and many others) have my respect as they have proven themselves dedicated to the efforts of the larger 9/11 truth movement, and any differences of opinion or misunderstandings should come second to that.
I must clearly state that this is the last warning you will receive before further action is taken - if it is necessary. Please do not put us in this position, if you disagree with someone then vote them down and move on, there is little to be gained in anything more.
(please note that a similar letter is being sent to another user as well..)
Best wishes,
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-dz
To summarize:
You can earn the priviledge to be beyond suspicion by decree. First ten signers-up receive 100 bonus immunity points.
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Here's an interesting response from dz
I had emailed dz asking him about another user who was recently blocked (Fetzer) and asking him what the policy was. In his reply, he basically said that people are banned primarily based on consistently low community ratings. Hmmmmm. I seem to recal that RT's postings mostly received positive ratings.
Here's the email I got from dz:
6/14/07
[Keenan],
There is no hard set policy written up, but it is pretty simple - we review users which receive incredibly poor community ratings, and in extreme instances will block user accounts which fall into a 'troll' category by which all of their posts are consistently voted down, and they use the site only as a method from which to argue with others over differences rather than try to be a part of a larger community focused on our similarities and taking action. It is only in very rare cases that someone would be blocked because of this, but when community feedback is to such a large degree negative we will take action on behalf of the site's community.
p.s. Please forgive me for the delay in my response, I have been without an internet connection at home for about the last 1-2 weeks.
Best wishes,
-dz
what a nice guy
Now that his internet connection is back up I wonder if he will respond to my inquiries!
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
hee hee
you're supposed to hate it--it's meant to discourage anonymous (annoymouse) posts since they are forced to use it. Cass is right--if you click on your user profile link on the left column there should be a place where you can browse for a substitute. OTOH if you tell me what you want as an avatar I could make it and replace it for you, let me know...
Actually, I quite like it
Gets a chuckle out of me every time. Make the "A" a "B" and I might just use it ;-)
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well that would defeat the purpose!
A is for anonymous, annoying, and quite possibly anarchical. not to mention potential asshole, or addled. there IS a way to make a gallery of avatars for people to pick from, but that will have to wait for a rainy weekend I'm afraid, unless some of you "trusted users" want to take on admin duties! judging from y'alls lack of work on the wiki though I'm not going to hold my breath :)
though DHS, if you're reading this, feel free to hold your breath until your friend Jonny wins Mr. Congeniality somewhere!
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
Hm...
I just can't refrain myself from being silly, and I think a silly-wiki would defeat the purpose -- or maybe it might ease people into it? Dunno.
But who doesn't love a silly admin? Or silly avatars?
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you ain't seen nothin yet...
maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it, and by that I mean go crazy on the wiki guys, it can always be edited...
i took a liberty
and changed your avatar... is this one better? :)
really just tell me what you want it to be and I'll make one.
BTW yes, gretavo is RT--I don't mean to deceive anyone, it just happened that way when I was setting up the blog for the first time...
Yes, much better; I love it,
Yes, much better; I love it, thank you.
I figured out that you were he - confusing? Yes. I suspect you are also Lucky Larry and a few other pseudonyms. LL is pretty funny.
I went a way for the weekend; kinda went into withdrawal without my internet connection, in the middle of nowhere. My cell phone wouldn't even work! Panic.
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I was asking about JG
but you're right, I am curious about why RT was blocked, too.
Biddy?? How puerile. And sexist.
Night,
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I assure you...
DHS is no one except me.
All this bickering is quite a turnoff. Couldn't time be used more efficiently?
well DHS, if it's really "you"
no one is more turned off by this aspect of the truth movement than I, believe me. I frankly don't care who is disinfo and who is just an ass because in the end it's not about people it's about facts. And if the "bickering" that plagues 911B causes people to diversify and broaden the movement so much the better. Having been banned from 911B is no biggie. I voluntarily left it in the old (pre-Drupal) days with a message to everyone that effective truthing sometimes meant breaking ties, moving on, and like a good little bee mixing up the pollen/DNA of the movement so as to better fertilize the ground for real effective change. Since as truthers we are by nature reformers, and since the scene at 911B is so ripe for reform, this was perhaps necessary. I look forward to laying outt he case for why specific individuals and agendas seem to be favored on dz's site, and to ensuring that anyone who has been working to subvert the truth is identified and remembered for posterity. 911B now has a big credibility problem and with good reason. May the truthiest truthers win!
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
We are far more effective...
getting off the blog sites and out, in the public eye.
Or we can argue and debate amongst ourselves for the next half a century.
-DHS
i agree wholeheartedly
And I am out every day pretty much, with at the very least my big 911 Truth Now sign on my bag for the world to see. I also do more elaborate installments on weekends which I'll try to get some pics of to show. That said, knowing that some poeple spend a lot of time online trying to affect perceptions there, we have no choice but to keep tabs on and if necessary provide counterpoints to them...
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Real Truther
"Truth will have no gods before it.- The belief in truth begins with the doubt of all truths in which one has previously believed."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)
let's shed some more light on this
dear anonymouse,
no thread for you jerks (it's been deleted)
In this thread you reference a user who was recently blocked from the site, suggesting that perhaps this is the same person that posted this blog entry, I checked that myself before posting this blog entry and would appreciate it if you would contact me in the future if you are concerned of a user using multiple aliases rather than suggest that someone is, especially when the person you referenced was not involved in that thread, and is blocked from the site and unable to defend themselves.
I have had to block 3 accounts now in the last 2 days, something which I never have to do, I would appreciate it if you could help in letting these inner feuds blow over and not post anything which might be inferred as pushing someone else's buttons. If our comments continue to go downhill because of the inner feuds amongst a handful of our users then we will either have to block those users which are at the center of these feuds, or just get rid of comments altogether - which unfortunately appears to be the direction we are heading.
Thanks for your help,
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www.911blogger.com
www.911podcasts.com
get rid of comments!!
and stop with the patronizing warnings, Roger!!
hi rt
A couple of guys hung out on one of my old 911b post and said you got banned. Nice to know you got your own site now.
I can't believe 911b is limiting topics due to sensitivity to one denomination.
Gotta go where the truth is.
Juandelacruz
HAHAHHAHA!!!! yeah rt, we got your back!
im 'inside" at 911b.
boy was i pissed off when i heard (days later) that rt was banned..
about gold, i met gold on the howard stern message board right when it opened.. i went there to spread 911 truth because i knew that there would be tons of people there.. gold was there before me and i saw his posts about 911 and thought that i would post.. this is well over 3 years ago and i used to read the site letsroll911, it was one of the first sites that i started reading so i put a link to it and then gold started calling me a disinfo shill right off... it was unreal!! HAHAH!!!! we did become friends for a while but we would always fight about things like CD and the pentagon but i would just let it blow over..
side note, gold had more people that hated him then liked him by far at the howard board... looking back i see how many people he turned off of 911 truth just by the way he would act.. i mean people hated him big time.. gold would tell people that his research was done in the name of his dead grandpa and people would just rip on he dead gramps.. i have never seen anyone attacked as much as these guys would attack gold.. lol they would cover his pic of his face with all sorts of shit.. i cant help but laugh thinking back but also thinking that that was just what he wanted.. i dont know.. anyways thats where we met DZ, somebigguy and im sure a few more... i really like sbg and hate to think that he is anything but someone that wants the truth to come out... ive never seen him do anything fishy...
back to gold, he used to say something like " anyone that states as fact that anything other than flight 77 hitting the pentagn is hurting the truth movement" then i turned it on him and said that " anyone that says its a fact that fligh77 hit the pentagon is hurting the 911 truth movement" and i think thats when he bann me from his site mybbsuck... boy did i lose sleep over that even though i hadnt posted there in months.. HAHAHHA!!! that was all that he could do...
anyways, i have wondered about gold ever since i met him, he has always rubbed me the wrong way with just about everything he does..
i have to run but ill chime in later.. sorry my writting is so shitty..
thanks for the history!
i suspect we'll all be telling stories like this to our grandkids, and embellishing them for effect. :) "so yeah, remember when we finally stormed the daily kos site and smoked out the last of the gatekeepers? remember the look on Mia Dolan's face? ha! and when Silverstein tried to escape New York dressed as a muslim woman wearing hijab and got caught when someone decided to pull it? made it all worth it!"