How Do You Respond To LIHOP?

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A wave of LIHOP is coming. More and more people are waking up to 9/11 Truth. They are having trouble getting beyond this idea that the "Muslim Threat" and it's officially defined relationship to the 9/11/2001 attacks are purely mythical and part of the deception that occurred on 9/11/2001.

The following is an exchange between myself (JESSE), a Fox News Junky (BART), and an open-minded lefty (MARY).

BART sent out an e-mail to his list of about 20 or 30 buddies, including me, talking about:
"Oliver North For President" Ollie North knew about Bin Laden about 15 years ago!!! Only if we would have listened to Ollie! Oh...and Obama sucks!!!"

That's pretty much how all of Barts e-mail newsletters go.

During this exchange, the only other person who ever responds to these e-mails besides myself, beat me to the punch. MARY is pretty sharp and quickly pointed out why Oliver North might not be the best pick for president. I decided to responded to the 'Bin Laden threat' part of BART's original e-mail.

I didn't include the entire exchange. The main subject is the LIHOP response from MARY. So the reason I post this is because I'm curious how others respond to LIHOP.

BART,
You might also be interested in 9/11 Truth.
Here, start with the FBI and it's number 2 most wanted criminal, Usama Bin Laden.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
Why don't they mention 9/11/2001 on that wanted page? I'll tell you why. Because, they don't have evidence that he was involved. It's, quite literally, a myth. That's why Kaleid Sheik Mohamed was captured, tortured and eventually confessed to being the real '911 Master Mind'. Too bad the CIA accidentally destroyed the video taped torture...I mean interrogation and confession of this guy...

Those planes were most likely controlled by some sort of remote controlled / remote guidance system. As someone who has been investigating these attacks since 2001, I am sure 9/11 was a deception meant to blame 'Muslims' in general in order to justify the invasion of the Middle East which has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people so far.

The over-all deception is much bigger then I think you realize.
Again, the media is poison. But, FOX news is absolutely insidious and poisonous beyond belief. If you stopped watching that crap your level of anger directed at your perceived enemies would decrease because those at Fox News like Glenn Beck are just stirring the pot and getting people fired up.
Jesse

To Which Mary Replied:
BART,
Even if you don't believe that the planes were flown by remote and like I do, actually believe that there were 19 Arab hijackers from allied states (15 Saudis, 2 Egyptians, an Algerian, and a Lebanese), there are still some very serious questions that the government does not answer.
#1 Egyptian intelligence warned the US around September 5 that an impending attack was going to be executed on New York City in the coming days.
#2 Israeli intelligence warned the US a couple of days later that an impending attack was going to be executed on New York City in the coming days.
#3 NORAD was conducting a simulation where airplanes are hijacked and used as weapons on the morning of Sept 11, 2001.
#4 It was automatic protocol that in the event of a hijacking Air Force fighters would intercept and follow such a plane to ensure that it was not used as a weapon. That morning only two jets were scrambled to intercept the four hijacked planes. Both left Virginia over the Atlantic as if on their way to Spain (very much the wrong direction).
#5 The passengers on the fourth flight did not successfully take out their own plane. That is made up. There was resistance on the part of the passengers, but it was either shot down or the hijackers took it out themselves.
#6 Building #7 was blown up by us. It was not damaged seriously enough to collapse on its own and the owner himself announced that it was "pulled."
#7 There is also evidence that bombs were placed inside the WTC, suggesting that we helped it come down or that the terrorists were way more amazing than seems likely.
In any case it is clear that we knew that the attack was coming and did nothing to prevent. We may have even made it worse. It was the best thing that could have happened to the Bush administration.
MARY
To Which I Replied:
MARY,
A response.
First, I don't necessarily disagree that there were 19 Arabs who helped hijack those planes. Now I want to make a few comments to your list of 911 oddities.

  1. Egyptian intelligence warned the US

    I view this 'warning' as part of a patsy cover-story creation.

  2. Israeli intelligence warned the US

    Again, this is the creation of a patsy cover story. And it also should be pointed at that on 9/11/2001 five Israelis were detained while watching the towers collapse. The lady who called 9/11 said they were celebrating. These guys worked at "Urban Moving Systems" which was run by Dominique Sutter, who fled to Israel when the FBI started investigating "Urban Moving Systems" after 9/11/2001. The detained Israelis were held for 71 days and eventually put on a plane back to Israel.
    It should also be noted that Zaid Jarah, one of the alleged 911 hijackers, had a cousin who was apparently an Israeli spy.
    Ziad Jarrah
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziad_Jarrah
    Ali al-Jarrah
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/world/middleeast/19lebanon.html?_r=3&h...

  3. NORAD was conducting a simulation where airplanes are hijacked and used as weapons on the morning of Sept 11, 2001.

    Yup, a few different exercises including one that simulated planes crashing into a CIA / NRO building in Arlington, VA, another in NYC involving bio terrorism that started Sept. 10, Operation Norther Vigilance was set up to monitor a Russian military exercise that was scheduled for 9/10/2001 - 9/14/2001. NORAD sent fighters, to be stationed in Alaska until the end of the exercise, to monitor the mission from strategic positions.
    NORAD Maintains Northern Vigilance
    http://www.norad.mil/News/2001/090901.html
    When the FAA reported one of the hijackings and requested jets be scrambled, one NORAD official responded with:
    "Is this real world or an exercise?"
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/18/politics/18minutes.html

  4. in relation to the lack of scrambled jets:

    see operation northern vig. noted above

  5. in relation to the story that the plane was 'over taken' by passengers

    I view this as a deception probably to cover a shoot down of the plane that crashed at Shanksville, PA

  6. WTC 7 Was Blown Up

    MARY is referring to WTC 7, the third skyscraper that collapsed on 9/11/2001 which was NOT hit by a plane. This 47 story steel framed building collapsed on itself and was destroyed in seconds. The BBC and CNN actually reported that this building fell 20 minutes before it even collapsed!

  7. There is also evidence that bombs were placed inside the WTC, suggesting that we helped it come down or that the terrorists were way more amazing than seems likely.

    I think 'helped it come down' should be changed to 'made it come down'.

In conclusion, I think that your position of "let it happen on purpose" is no different then "make it happen on purpose". My conclusion of 'remote controlled planes' is my own theory based on that fact that this operation needed those planes to hit their targets with as much certainty as possible. Otherwise, there would be no diversion and those buildings would be sitting there with live explosives placed through out. This diversion would not be left up to pilots who we know were not skilled enough to fly a cesna.