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PollCan Maduro get a fair trial from Alvin Hellerstein? Of course, Judge Hellerstein is a jurist with integrity. 0% No, Judge Hellerstein works on behalf of the Zionist deep state. 0% Whether he does or not is irrelevant, Maduro is part of the op. 0% He will be bribed into pleading guilty to something minor. 100% Other (specify in comments.) 0% Total votes: 1
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$263,625
is my current high score... i have to go through it again trying to minimize my use of thermi--er, dynamite...
$268,408
I think I got all but the last two with one stick of dynamite, after many tries of course...
9/11 Jenga
couple short & fun youtubes, "Jenga" is a real game, for those unaware, pretty fun.
"9/11 Jenga"
"I'm a Truther... I'm a Republocrat"
Greenspan
Do you think your chosen user image is a little much?
Considering that the topic of 9/11 is shifting towards Israel and considering wtcdemolition.com is accused of having anti-Semitic leanings...it seems a little irresponsible to have an image like that.
What's the point of the image anyway?
What's the point of the image anyway?
The Greenspan image, which I lifted from this old Mike Whitney article btw, is symbolic of THE ROOT of the fine mess the world is in: The global fractional-reserve-fiat-currency usury empire presently enslaving humanity, thought by most truth-seekers to emanate from the Rothschild family banking dynasty. The Federal Reserve, which Sir Greenspan represented for so long of course, is the global usury empire's US outpost. Say what you will about Icke; I think he nailed it big time with this, The Elephant In The Room...
"[...] Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at 'manipulating Jews', but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds. [...more]"
I appreciate your concern, I'm guessing mainly about seeing a photoshopped "6-fingered Jew" in the image (here's a specimen of the original). The six fingers to me makes light of the farce of watching "officials" sing & dance about how "sound" our global money/banking system is, when in fact it's demonstrably the most destructive, oppressive, war-mongering wealth-transfer/usury mechanism the world has ever known-- and that usury mechanism controlled by "The Money Powers", is currently in its endgame of bankrupting & enslaving humanity-- by design. It's the driving force behind the "Zionist political movement" which counts WTCD among its critics. Israel is the post-WW2 sovereign base of operations of the Rothschild global usury empire; Zionism is the usury empire's global political force.
Review the 47 minute animated "Money As Debt" for a great layman's primer on money, and the global usury empire controlling it. Launch it fullscreen and be ready to pause it as necessary to carefully read the historic quotes which scroll past periodically, as they go past a little quickly, considering how deeply telling they are.
Hey, I have an idea...
Clearly, at least one person here finds your avatar misleading and offensive -- and I'm not too fond of it either. Bear in mind that MANY people will see the avatar and never read the explanation -- why not, as a show of good faith, choose something else?
Good Guess
"I'm guessing mainly about seeing a photoshopped "6-fingered Jew" in the image"
Good guess. It reminds me of this:
Would you mind changing it? I think it's pretty irresponsible and makes the site look bad. I'm sure many visitors to wtcdemolition.com would perceive the image as I have.
also reminds me of this...
and these: http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37009&start=0
You know what's really sad? That we worry so much (rightly) about a Greenspan with six fingers avatar, but no one thinks twice about this kind of stuff. Or, say, that a huge mass murder is perpetrated in order to frame Muslims and Arabs.
DANGER: MAJOR U.S. SEAPORTS TURNED OVER TO JEWISH COMPANY
just making a point... :)
Un-Sheath Your Ban Hammer
PatColo,
Your second link goes to http://www.dejanlucic.net/Dejan%20Lucic-linkovi.htm and if one were to click on "links" we find a whole slew of goofy shit about secret societies, the knights templar, Nostradomus,...and even "Jew Watch News".
oy vey...
PatColo, when you wrote to confirm your registration, you used the term zio-shill, which sent up a small red flag for me, which is why I wrote back to you including:
"Just one request--please keep in mind when posting that while the site is 100% committed to exposing the evils of Zionism, we frown on the kind of anti-Zionism represented by sites like Prothink, which (intentionally or not) too often blur the line between anti-Zionism and what most people (myself included) would consider real "Jew-hatred", something I personally suspect to be a deliberate tactic to support Zionism by associating critiques of it with bigotry. Sometimes that may mean that we have to err on the side of caution when expressing ourselves, to make sure that our words can't be misconstrued or used by our critics to distort our message."
You seem not to have read that, or understood it. So, thanks for playing. And say hi to your handlers!
no soup for me :(
Hi RT, Cass,
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oy vey...
Submitted by gretavo on Thu, 2010-01-21 21:10.
PatColo, when you wrote to confirm your registration, you used the term zio-shill, which sent up a small red flag for me, which is why I wrote back to you including:
"Just one request--please keep in mind when posting that while the site is 100% committed to exposing the evils of Zionism, we frown on the kind of anti-Zionism represented by sites like Prothink, which (intentionally or not) too often blur the line between anti-Zionism and what most people (myself included) would consider real "Jew-hatred", something I personally suspect to be a deliberate tactic to support Zionism by associating critiques of it with bigotry. Sometimes that may mean that we have to err on the side of caution when expressing ourselves, to make sure that our words can't be misconstrued or used by our critics to distort our message."
You seem not to have read that, or understood it. So, thanks for playing. And say hi to your handlers!
I'd barely got done changing my avatar to the standard greenspan pic out of respect for Jpass/Cass' expressed concerns, and I'm banned? "zio-shill" simply means fake truthers IE shills, who wish to steer the movement towards a zionist-friendly limited hangout LIHOP version of "911 Truth". I dont get how it's offensive, or deserving of the hair trigger ban?! Now I'm reminded of what I said at GIM a couple years back, you guys don't trust anybody!
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Un-Sheath Your Ban Hammer
Submitted by Jpass on Thu, 2010-01-21 20:49.
PatColo,
Your second link goes to http://www.dejanlucic.net/Dejan%20Lucic-linkovi.htm and if one were to click on "links" we find a whole slew of goofy shit about secret societies, the knights templar, Nostradomus,...and even "Jew Watch News".
I didn't realize I had to vet every link off of the article which merely maps the Rothschild dynasty. Would linking it to a scroogle "Rothschild" search be neutral enough? Exactly where should a well-intentioned Rothschild FYI link point, so not to offend anyone, anywhere? I'm reminded of how DRG gets whipped by 911 Family Guy (a nickname I coined in a long-ago annoymouse post btw, and RT loved and ran with) for merely citing Bollyn in a footnote, ?!?
"say hi to your handlers", pfff. Say hi to the reason WTCD's hyper-boutique "message" is evidently doomed to stay that way... no coaching/counseling, just "NO SOUP FOR YOU!"
I'll try to submit the above to the thread in question, but otherwise... carry on... -PatColo
dude... out of courtesy
I've posted your comment. Some points... You changed an avatar that was sketchy because it seems to scream "look, a Jew!" by removing the extra finger. Guess what? It's still sketchy. You have been here all of 8 hours and have already managed to plug Alex Jones, David Icke, Jeff Rense, and some weird Serbian guy whose Facebook page shows him holding up a gun. I am so very sorry, honestly, if I've misjudged you and instead of being a disinfo agent here to disrupt you are just a dense, well-meaning clod. If that is indeed the case, then use this as a learning experience to help you understand just how annoying having to babysit adults who still don't understand how the disinfo game is played.
Excuse me. Are you the judean people's front?
Fuck off! We're the people's front of judea!
Preemptive sorry for saying jeho...uh..judea, especially knowing it could lead to misperceptions among the more sensitive of the countless readers here. Also, the honorable Mr. Greenspan first and foremost represents jewish identity, not private central banking schemes, so no one dare accusingly pointing in merely his general direction.
Seriously, what is this, a game of Paranoia? I'd suggest chilling the f out.
[if you want to sign a name, real or not, to a comment please register and/or log in... -gReT]
I'd like to chill the f out...
but it's hard to when on the one hand you're trying to fill a void by providing a positive, non-bigoted or kooky forum for discussion of Zionism and 9/11 all the while dishonest so-called truthers seize any opportunity to smear you as a bigot for doing it. it's really not that hard to use common sense here--if you're linking to a site that is at all questionable because you think a particular article is worth reading, the least you can do is acknowledge the fact. if you don't, then you are making yourself look very much like a disruptor of the kind we're tired of dealing with here. when I approve someone's account and ask the user explicitly to be mindful of the need to be sensitive to the "smear-potential" of their posts and they proceed to choose an avatar that is bound to be interpreted (fairly or not) as a reference to "evil-money-Jews" while at the same time linking to a site that is not only bizarre but that has the aroma of "jew-hatred", I reserve the right as the bearer of most of the brunt of the unfair criticism directed at this blog to show my disapproval by blocking their account. i wish i didn't have to make these judgment calls but i do, given the climate of disinfo that everyone knows exists.
Careless people have lost the benefit of the doubt
This goes not only for the most recent ban-ee but some others in the history of the site. When the site owner has specifically requested that care be taken to avoid the appearance of bigotry or (in a separate case) that care be taken to avoid the appearance of advocacy of violence and the poster does it anyway, that person is either deliberately disruptive or just fucking rude and I for one am sick of trying to parse the difference.
Also, when you join a site, it's good to ease in gently. Let people get to know you before you start posting links to problematic sites or choosing questionable avatars.
Kthxbai.
Hey there, it was me
I just wasn't logged in before typing the reply and was too lazy to login and c/p. Anyway, I'll just try to explain my reason for being contrarian even though I know the policies:
Personally, I see the taboo surrounding and sparking this very discussion preeminent in several domains vital to the entire quest for truth and justice, making it so central as turn unconditional control over it ("fairly or not") to the accusers a certain recipe for defeat.
Maybe I'm already too blind or biased to spot it, but was there really anything racist in what PatColo said? You know, definitely racist, not just possibly according to imagination or the spanish inquisition reincarnated? Could it be that you're alienating people with merely a bit of righteous anger inside (and I count myself and Lazlo Toth among them) by trying to appease those whose tactics have already subdued the media, or governments?
Just my perspective...
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a valid perspective...
...and a tough question, but however imperfect i may be in divining intent i'm afraid i have to try, and not let situations drag out. in other words i admit that its not as much the content itself as my perception of the attitude of the person posting it.
See?
Good on you for doing, perception is nigh everything. Wouldn't being repelled by it even latently validate a smear? Would you worry if wtcd could potentially be smeared as, dunno...homophile secessionists?
I'd again like to stress that I don't see any way around reclaiming the territory you know which smears protect. The good news is that they do wear off when overemployed, especially when wielded against the fully innocent.
No?
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i'll be frank, bruce...
I believe that understanding the history of Zionism, including its craven efforts at social engineering, which include the trumped up holocaust narrative, is important to understanding 9/11 in its proper context. From the idea of a galvanizing tragedy used to manipulate vast populations to the legislation of thought becoming acceptable as a result, it is of the greatest importance. It is as important if not more so for those who identify as Jewsih themselves to see this reality as it is for those of us who do not identify as Jewish, but who sympathize as a result of our experience with 9/11 with those who have been living out the manufactured Zionist (and yes, before Zionism it was orthodox--as opposed to reform--Judaism) "us-against-them" worldview. Those whose behavior might be used to call into question this site's sincerity in the above regard are liabilities I simply can't afford.
Agreed.
Still, I didn't see any us-vs.-them, especially not of the us-vs.-the-juice variety, in what the banees (sic?) said. Ok, I don't know about dicktater, but find it hard to imagine from all I've seen.
If our jewish fellows of the working class should constantly throw themselves into the same drawer with the zionists, could any of us help? Their sensitivities should at least not keep us from pointing out the facts, some of which being that yes, the mossad seems to have had one or more hands in 9/1, the media basically is zionist dominated as is big finance and thus big politics. Now, of course we should be clear that this != "it's all the juice fault!" and I was under the impression that we were.
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The image of Greenspan and
The image of Greenspan and linking to goofy shit that refers users to "Jew watch" is enough for me. Regardless of the intentions, it's freaking irresponsible. Considering the topic of this website and 911 Truth in general, I think the decision was a good and an easy one to make.
I agree on "jew watch"
irresponsible at best and racist at worst. However, Greenspan ,former prime PR officer of the Fed after all, deserves all the attention he can get, even though the institution behind him does all the more so.
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righteous anger is wonderful
and believe me I have my share. but as important as having that passion is having the ability to channel it in positive wasy, as opposed to in ways that can be turned against us. i accept and am taking to heart the criticism from those who think my banning of PatColo was too hasty. Or Lazlo and Dicktater for that matter. I should hope that banning Killtown at least is something we might all agree on? In the other 3 cases it wasn't, as I said, just the content, but the fact that in each case I went out of my way to ask people to be mindful of certain sensibilities and based on the response I got I felt I couldn't trust the person. I did not feel good about having to do it to people who had been around and contributed as much as Lazlo and Dicktater, which may be why I reacted so swiftly in the case of PatColo.
What, dicktater is banned, too?
Jeez, drop that ban hammer, would you? NO...I meant on the ground. Agreed on Killtown though, as far as memory serves he associated with the Fetzerwoods.
Know what, I could imagine L&D ignored your requests for the same reasons I spoke up, but of course, I cannot know for sure. Yes, people show some (acquired and mostly ignorant) sensitivities to certain buzzwords, resulting in turmoil whenever someone criticizes certain key components of organized society associated or associable with those buzzwords, the myth of 9/11 being one of those. I believe this (imo) mostly pavlovian response constitutes the main defense perimeter of a lot of what we're up against, and I don't think that observing and respecting it will get anything done. Feel free to disagree.
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dicktater went on a "birther" rampage
where pretty much everything he posted was about the "fact" that Obama was not a U.S. citizen--right before and after his election, and as the mainstream media were making every effort to link "truthers" and "birthers". he subsequently to being banned here resurfaced at truthaction where he has obligingly refrained from any birther postings. i've really not felt the need since to second guess that decision...
tazed & dazed,
incidentally, we agreed on the prothink thing.
tazed & dazed, PatColo
maybe TOO "clever"?
I can appreciate the effort to make funny videos that get people thinking, but they're a tad smarmy for my taste, also they plug Infowars (Alex Jones) which is one huge red flag afaic...
Oh FFS
For fuck's sake -- I finally watched the "I'm a Republocrat" video and IT WAS, IMPOSSIBLY, WORSE THAN I EXPECTED!!!!1!!11 Who in god's name is that supposed to appeal to -- fourteen year old boys? Seriously, I'm Q-tipping the barf from my keyboard right now.
here's my guess...
it's supposed to appeal to the kind of jackasses Infowars appeals to?
"Hi, I'm a hot but ignorant slut"
"But the smell of your patchouli and your scrawny physique make me want to let you fuck me with your big conspiracy theory."
Really, really appealing (and not a turn-off at all) to people like me.
OTOH, the Jenga video was pretty good.
Jenga
I wanted to say I liked the Jenga Vid but did not dare to say...
Have been catching up with so much history here from wtcd archives and have to say I am well impressed with all of your perspectives.
Tho one day I might come back to Gretavo with an argument why change is more valuable than truth. How many Christians died eaten alive by lions believing that one? -but who knows, that was probably another myth , not that I really care - oh Fuck! you have to be so careful what you say here!
you should dare to say!
AA, disagreeing with anyone including myself about the merit of something is not going to get anyone banned. there's a big difference between that and the things people have done to get banned from WTCD!
Thanks for concern, but was
Thanks for concern, but was more a failed attempt at satire than serious.
the jenga video has merit
the idea that something made of wood should, instead of collapsing from gravity, turn into sawdust, was first used afaik by the great and brilliant Judy Wood. now yes, don't tell me, I should chill out and let Judy be--after all, do I really know for a fact that her steel dustification theory was a deliberate ploy to make 911 truth look bad? for that matter, I should really lay off Jesse Ventura and his Conspiracy Theory teevee show because hey, he's doing the best he can, and we don't want to create a culture of fear where famous people are afraid to produce 9/11 themed shows because they'll be slammed if they don't live up to our absurdly high standards for credibility here!
Surprise! PatColo dissing us at WTCD's personal psyop...
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6164&start=30&sid=2d37c7af4...
He's whining to them that we're hypocrites for complaining about people getting banned from 911blogger when WTCD bans good folk like him for violating our groupthink standards. Given that truthaction is a major source of the unfounded allegations of jew-hatred levelled against WTCD and that PatColo was banned for linking to sites and having an avatar that could easily be construed (I hesitate to say MISconstrued) as being "Jew-hatey", his reception there, so far cordial, should be interesting. Does anyone want to bet that that was his whole plan all along? To get himself banned in order to do just this?
excerpt, emphasis added...
"PC Paranoids @ WTCDemolition.com Jump The Shark, Ban Their Own Annoymouse"
If I were to make a new thread on this, that would be the title. However, the story I'm posting to share here is small beans in the scheme of the TM, not worth a thread. It's only peripherally related to this thread, in that this thread comes up in a wtcdemolition.com site:truthaction.org scroogle search thanks to WTCD being mentioned herein; and by fantastic coincidence, the "Truther vs. Republocrat" video also happens to play a small peripheral role in this story,
The jist is, exposing a chasm between rhetoric & behavior at WTCD, as it pertains to controlled dialog & censored voices who, even momentarily/inadvertently, stray outside the "invisible security parameters" enforced by the inner clique there.
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It's an exciting time in the 911TM right now, ae911truth at 1017 A&E signatories, the frauds among us being exposed & discarded as dead weight by the honest majority, and TM scrutiny increasingly pointing in the directions best supported by the evidence. The skeptical inner-TM perspective which has been WTCD's niche for ~3 years has been to the [honest] TM's benefit. Unfortunately, they remain tainted by their penchant for groupthink & gratuitous personal attacks upon undeserving others in the TM, and this "ball of hate" energy just beneath the surface there will keep a cap on their growth & effectiveness in winning/keeping supporters and thus in reaching more of the public.