Kevin Barrett to debate Steve Alten who thinks we should "cool it" on Israel

“FAIR & BALANCED” with Kevin Barrett
Tuesday Hear a Live Interview with Novelist & Screenwriter Steve Alten, author of the 911 truth thriller The Shell Game
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Steve Alten wants me to cool it on Israel, and will tell me so!! Steve Alten is the New York Times bestselling author of the 9/11 truth thriller The Shell Game which recently came out in a newly rewritten, updated, paperback edition. (Buy it! Pass it around!) Edit: Why support such a LIHOPpy work of fiction? He’s also an American Jew, a moderate supporter of Israel (who dislikes extremists like Netanyahu), and now a critic of my recent attempts to explain to Americans how things look to most Muslims around the world.
After my talk “A Muslim View of 9/11 Truth” at the We Demand Transparency conference last Saturday in New York City, Steve and I got into a fairly raucous debate. Actually Steve was the raucous one, but don’t tell him I said that ; ) In my talk, I had argued that most Muslims:
*Think 9/11 was part of an ongoing war on Islam;
*Think the main battlefront of that war is the Zionist settler-colonial occupation of Palestine, which has been a Muslim-ruled holy land for more than 1300 years, except for a few brief, bloody Crusader interludes, including the current one;
* Think a major motive of 9/11 was to bring the US into a long-term war against Israel’s enemies — namely, the whole Muslim world — in a desperate attempt to lengthen Israel’s otherwise short shelf-life. Hence the tendency of Muslims to highlight the evidence of Israeli involvement as discussed by such researchers as Justin Raimondo (The Terror Enigma), Christopher Bollyn and Michael Andregg .
What Steve objected to most of all was my saying that most Muslims think that pro-Israel Jews dominate the American mainstream media, with predictable consequences for coverage of the Israeli-Palestine conflict. I cited evidence of Jewish overrepresentation in the mainstream media, including a chart showing that in 2003 four-and-a-half of the five mega-media-conglomerates had Jewish CEOs (maybe-Jew and arch-Zionist Rupert Murdoch being the one-half). More evidence here. And still more in Phillip Weiss’s wonderful piece “Do Jews Dominate in American Media? And So What If We Do?”
Steve thinks I’m wrong about most of this, and that expressing anti-Zionism and/or focusing on the Israeli 9/11 angle is bad for the 9/11 truth movement, and for me. He’ll try to convince me.
salaam/shalom
Kevin Barrett
http://www.truthjihad.com
Author, Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters:
Deadline for emailed questions is 9pm Pacific Time, Monday, September 14th. Not all emailed questions will be answered on the air.
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yay, thanks for posting, Keenan
i love this show. noliesradio rocks.
Holy crap...
That was not a fair fight. Kevin was way too lenient with Alten. I encourage people to listen to this -- it really needs to be deconstructed.
i agree, Cass
but KB got some intense points in towards the end.
and...Alten said in the beginning " you sound like Fox news" before the interview even started! lol. Kevin is anything but Foxoid. that's exactly it, he let Alten get away with so much, he let him out on a long rope, and Alten eventually hung himself.
KB was polite. Alten was ad hominem ad nauseum...you, you, you, you, you
UNSUBSCRIBE
me from KB NOW
Okay, but you should listen to it.
Paraphrasing:
SA: "I am not a Zionist."
KB: You don't support a Jewish state in Palestine?"
SA: "Of course, but that doesn't make me a Zionist."
... and...
SA: "Why have you cherry-picked only the Jewish names from the list of large media conglomerate CEOs? Most companies have lots of CEOs."
Alten said this...
Alten" You brought in the age old Palestinian verses Israeli conflict into the argument, and it has no place in the argument."
When the "dancing" Israelis were pulled over in their van with "explosives" and videos of the towers being hit (by both planes) they are reported to have told the police who pulled them over. "You're enemies are our enemies. The Palestinian terrorists" as they tried to blame the Palestinians for what just happened.
So Steve, KB didn't do that... the Dancing Israelis did.
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
ya, great point!
i wish i were in NYC for all of this to catch the backdrop.. maybe the speeches are up somewhere. did you hear how nice KB was to SA in the introduction, thanking him for bringing 911 truth more to the fore?
but let's face it, anyone who is listening to KB at this point is going ..New York Times, what the Fk?
age-old conflict?
60 years is not age-old. and Alten is acting like you can support an apartheid state built on stolen land in Palestine without being a Zionist (supporter of an apartheid state built on stolen land in Palestine) funny that! the disservice being done by KB is in his pretending that Alten is a legitimate contributor to the truth movement with whom KB just disagrees on a few points. Like Sander Hicks. The best thing to be done with those people is summed up as "if you don't have anything bad to say about them, then don't say anything at all"
actually Gretavo, it wasn't bad...
He wasn't as harsh on Alten's crap that I would have been, but he did ok.
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
Steve Alten... what a joke...
His main point, aside from trying everything he can think of to talk over KB as much as possible, is to try and keep pressing the "it's dangerous for Israel" button.
Well, yeah. If the average American found out that the CIA and MI6 and the Mossad, working on behalf of their respective banker/governments, attacked us on 9/11 to justify their imperialist neoliberal agenda of world domination, YES STEVE that COULD be bad for the neoliberal Likud Party agenda in Palestine as well...
my favorite part so far is when Alten accused KB of "cherry picking" the Jewish names of the CEOs of the major media conglomerates and KB suggests his listeners check to see if there are more than one CEO... Alten says... "Well so what if they are all Jewish?"
heehee what a prick
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
And Alten showed his ass on this one...
Alten:"I mean 15 of the 19 hijackers were Muslim..."
KB: "Oh, whoa... you don't think there were actually hijackers do you?'
Alten: "Well, somebody took over the cockpits"
LIHOP/anti-Muslim spin, all the way...
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
Thanks for putting this up, Keenan
Obviously I listened to the whole thing. And it was good. A good interview. It really exposed Alten, I think. Especially his crap about Iran's WMDs... and his lack of knowledge about the "1000s of years of conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis"... a good interview. I'm glad I listened to it.
"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK
KB did the world a great
KB did the world a great service by holding this interview. But I wish he would drop supporting the efforts of Steve Alten for 9-11 truth. Alten is disinfo worming his way into 9-11 truth only to protect the Zionist perps that did 9-11 (Just like jon Gold). Why can't KB figure and point that out.
yep, and anyone who calls him out
will be accused of doing it because ALten (like Gold) identifies as Jewish (however little they may actually believe in the almighty YHWH and his real estate deals with people he choo-choo choosed in the desrt thousands of years ago...) Good time to plug the works of Israel Shahak, who is Jewish, Israeli, secular, and does not tolerate Zionist BS. Or Joel Kovel, who is Jewish, American, secular and doesn't tolerate Zionist BS. Or David Cole, who is Jewish, American, secular, and didn't tolerate Zionist BS until Zionists beat him and threatened his life. Or the new book (coming out in October in English) The Invention of the Jewish people by secular Israeli Professor Shlomo Sand. I'm so sorry not to live up to some people's expectations of me (frothing at the mouth jew-hater), but by golly there sure are a lot of righteous anti-Zionist Jews around to love and support!
good to be reminded
of this list.
Family Guy scolds DRG for...
... referencing Bollyn in DRG's latest essay re WTC7.
http://911blogger.com/node/21332#comment-216870
Barrett interviews Jerry Mazza
9/19 Truth Jihad radio show, guests Jerry Mazza (onlinejournal.com truther) & Russ Baker (separately). Barrett & Mazza discuss zionism & 911, and Barrett's interview with Steve Alten The Good Looking Guy whose heart was impaled with a stake when truthers didn't buy more Shill Game. Jump to 40:00 for the top of the Barrett/Mazza discussion about the Alten interview. Haven't listened to the Baker part yet.
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Truth-Jihad-32k-091909.mp3
Here's the most recent from Mazza, 9/23
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