As if this wasn't part of the plan all along...
one of the long term goals of the 911 planners?
U.S. checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa
From Haaretz.com via Rawstory;
The United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem.
The Prime Minister's Office, which views the pipeline to Haifa as a "bonus" the U.S. could give to Israel in return for its unequivocal support for the American-led campaign in Iraq... more (full article via Rawstory)
meanwhile, this is going on... the people whom the public believes the troops went over to "liberate" being terrorized day and night by the same troops, who themselves appear to be victims of a massive game of misinformation and suspect techniques. does it ever change? will it ever change?
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OT OT Kevin Barrett
Can we get a dialog going about the credibility status of Kevin Barrett? (IE maybe a new blog)
Tonight's WTPRN show he has on Von Kliest. After Barrett's vouching for the excellence of "911 Ripple Effect", they quickly get into the FLASH and the POD. I watched a half hour of this "ripple effect" crap and it starts out with the flash/pod noise, bolstered by clips of Barrett and Jim Marrs vouching for what serious questions they are. I'm still listening to the MP3 of KB's latest show at http://mp3.wtprn.com/Barrett07.html
Barrett continues to share a time slot with uncle fetzer on GCN. A couple weeks ago, he had on 2 no-planers, Reynolds & Rick Ratjer. I seldom hear KB's GCN show so I don't know what kind of shills he gives a platform to there. I recall the video of the AZ conference which uncle space-beams tried to co-opt with his BS; Barrett was there playing the diplomat, saying all sides should be heard, tolerance, yada yada.
It's disturbing coz I've always admired Barrett's rhetorical skill and humor. But facts are facts: the guy's been giving voice/credibility to alot of blatant shills who seek to discredit the movement and/or get them chasing their tails with these highly interpretive/speculative/road-to-nowhere theories which are easy to ridicule & marginalize the movement with. These are the fruits which Barrett has born lately, and a case could be made that he's a "proxy" disinfo shill...
Separately-- this guy at radio4all.net, username \\WTC7//, posts alot of Truth Radio shows each week... with commercial breaks edited out. Here's a search for his recent mp3 audio posts, http://tinyurl.com/3det92
mm hm
and remember, just like Uncle Fetz he achieved a lot of notoriety courtesy of? Hannity and Colmes, a dynamic duo in their own right! I have liked KB for a while, but indeed he has become a bit suspect in large part because of the Fetz Connection...
at first i thought you meant
at first i thought you meant Kevin Ryan. (I really appreciated his recent participation in documenting the false assumptions and faulty science utilized by NIST.) As far as I can tell he is totally legit and right on the money.
Barrett seems sincere but a bit wacky to me, but I still liked hearing it said on TV, even if it's only a limited hangout for the purpose of discrediting. The truth will shine through to those that seek it, and he may have stimulated many to seek. At some points, any press is good press. Haven't heard his show but I imagine running a radio show:
. you need content and it's easier to get wackos to come on for free than legitimate researchers, and
. it's not a bad idea to present as much information as possible and let the listeners decide what's legit. of course if they ONLY ever present the wacky stuff, that's a huge disservice to the listeners.
Just got done listening to
Just got done listening to Cosmos' TRR show on WTPRN, http://mp3.wtprn.com/TRR07.html
In the last segment, they got into disinfo shills, and it appeared they were talking about Barrett without saying his name. Cosmos vented about his perception that there are those who are easy to spot as disinfo, but then there seem to be others who maintain an image as balanced and diplomatic, and don't explicitly embrace the poison pill theories, but what they DO is keep the disinfo shills in the game, giving them continued voice, platform etc. And Cosmos mentioned that at some point it's likely that these un-named "facilitator" types will "flip" and come out supporting the BS theories. Pretty sure they're talking Barrett, or maybe I'm flattering myself having just posted these observations about Barrett earlier today. If KB flips, our speculation will be vindicated.
One of the things which built KB's credibility for me was, he allegedly wrote in an email to Dylan Avery some "off color" remarks about the holocaust, namely:
"As a rational person who is not a specialist in the subject of WWII, but who has studied the history of Zionist Big Lies vis-a-vis Palestine, I cannot possibly dismiss the arguments of people like Green, Irving, and even Zundel. And even if the 6-million-deliberately-murdered-for-purely-ethnic-reasons figure is correct--which it very well may be; I have grown agnostic on that after studying the Big Lies of Zionism-- I would still have to characterize the Holocaust as it is taught in the US as a hideously destructive myth." -Kevin Barrett
This can be seen posted by Avery in this older LC forum thread,
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3620
But I've also heard KB make zionist-critical remarks on his various radio shows in the past.
Kevin Barrett critical of Zionism
Yeah, so so. I think he is right on about the holocaust, whether accurate or not, being used as a convenient myth (myths don't necessarily have to be false, or 100% false). Problem with Kevin is that he is easy for people to point at and say well yeah, he's a total Islamophile--look at his book--Truth Jihad! I know that it's a perfectly appropriate title, and you all might, but many Americans will say, well duh, this guy is totally biased and a bit loopy to boot. And he may well pull an Uncle Fetzer, or even an Uncle Shayler (let's hope for his own sake he doesn't pull an Uncle Icke!) at some point. I have to say I have long admired Kevin's intelligence and good cheer but this isn't Love Connection--let's be careful. Kudos to Cosmos for raising the issue and apparently doing so tactfully.
great find, T
thanks for posting this. yep, no surprise here! it's amazing how we are able to force poor Israel into taking so much money from us and now to refine our Iraqi oil for us. how much more abuse can they take from us before they say "no, America! we will no longer do your bidding as your proxy in the midle east!" i dunno, maybe Chomsky can tell us what could possibly be in it for Israel... :D