Why Are Fake Truthers So Insistent on Claiming that AA77 Hit the Pentagon?

For a long time, I've wrestled with possible scenarios based on semi-cooperative, semi-rival factions behind 9/11 which might be glimpsed, a la Plato's cave, in fake truther factions. Truthers who would aggressively argue for CD at the WTC but equally aggressively argue for AA77 at the Pentagon might represent one of these factions. Now that the OCT 2.0 seems just about ready to roll out (maybe the beta version) -- that al Qaeda blew up the Towers -- it's a real anti-climax. Al Qaeda certainly didn't blow up that wedge of the Pentagon.

Jim Hoffman is the central focus of the Truth Faction that demands compliance with the OCT of Flight 77.

Hoffman's controlled demolition theory at the WTC is now completely based on the 'nanothermite' paper; before it was 'thermate' before that 'thermite'... but ALWAYS it centered around ANYTHING but looking at conventional explosives, and it ALWAYS looked to explain the "iron rich spheres" as residual thermite, rather than the missing 23,000 HDLA steel trusses that they really are.

I wonder how long it will be before Jones and Harrit "break" the BIG NEWS that Iran has secretly been developing "nanothermite"? Ah, just a guess...

Why is maintaining the control demolition wasn't accomplished using conventional high explosives so crucial? Because as long as they can keep us debating trivial, unprovable matters in the context of circumstantial evidence, the Truth Movement will remain toothless.

Circumstantial evidence about "why the planes could hit the Pentagon in the first place" is pointless...

There are a thousand reasons to justify "why" that could happen... in the end, were we to actually get anywhere after years and years of debate, what would happen?

A fall guy would be chosen and hung out to dry. "It's HIS fault" "He messed up"... and there we would be.. starting at the beginning all over again.

Now, you prove that the buildings were rigged by a conventional demolition team prior to the planes hitting the towers and guess what? You have prior knowledge, treason, and instant suspects (the same people who cleaned up the site)...

Now, you prove something ELSE hit that Pentagon, and BINGO... military/government complicity, treason (again), and obviously you have suspects (Rumsfeld, Zacheim, Cheney).

Suspects always lead to investigations and those lead to deals and those lead to more suspects higher up the food chain.

"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK

I agree with casseia. I can just see the CD of WTC becoming too mainstream... say the 10th anniversary, thousands of people at GZ, over 1,000 a's and e's on Gage's petition... it the dam will burst there.
Even though it seems silly to us, they juuuust miiight be able, for the truly stupid and fearful ones, to spin the CD of the towers as "al qaeda did it."

I could just imagine Katie Couric, crossing her legs in that demure fashion, under her $10,000 dress, saying into the camera: "The 9/11 Commission is re-opening its investigation into the attacks upon the heel of this tenth anniversary. Now that it has become obvious that indeed explosive devices were used to assist the planes in bringing down the buildings, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton are spearheading the next wing of the investigation in an attempt to discover how the 19 hijackers were able to bypass security in the buildings in the days leading up to the hijackings."

 But there is NO WAY IN HELL they can spin explosives at the Pentagon as being al Qaeda.
That being said, I don't think much of the public would buy the al Qaeda blew up the towers myth either. Once you realize the towers were demolished with explosives, it's impossible to avoid realizing that white men in suits and ties did it.

That is rather obvious, I think. No plane at the Pentagon means inside job from beginning to end with military involvement and everything. It utterly destroy the incompetence and LIHOP theories. And if the pentagon attack was faked it is safe to assume that the entire 9/11 attack was faked.

But I have another question from what I read here and elsewhere lately: Why Are Some Fake Truthers So Insistent that the WTC should have been tested for CONVENTIONAL explosives?

Is the Thermite vs. Conventional explosives the new attempt to divide and the disrupt the Truth Movement?

Evidence of thermite (or thermate or super-thermite or nano-thermite) is evidence of controlled demolition. Period.

There is no other possible reason why thermite would have be found in the area where 3 sky scrappers collapsed vertically and symmetrically in less than 10 seconds each.

Lets remind ourselves of what thermite is: It is a chemical mixture which when ignited reacts to burn at about 2000°c which permits it to cut through steel very rapidly and is therefore used in the demolition of steel structures -like the twin towers. For those who don't remember: go back watch 9/11 mysteries.

So isn't it odd that as the evidence of the use of thermite becomes more and more established and precise, some people suddenly claim that evidence of thermite (which cuts trhough steel) is no good and that conventional explosives (which doesn't cut through steel) would be a much better piece of evidence?

Is it because "Al Qaeda"/muslim terrorists are known to have some expertise in conventional explosives like car bombs etc and it would therefore -should the CD knowledge become mainstream- be comparatively more plausible to accuse them of the rigging of the buildings with some kind of IED whereas the use of highly sophisticated nano-thermite is clearly beyond the capability of frustrated, uneducated Arabs?

Can anyone believe for longer than a split second that evidence of conventional explosives would lead to an INVESTIGATION because IT IS THE LAW and that that investigation if it did take place would lead to the REAL CULPRITS?

Just asking. Thank you.

apparently someone wants people to think that "no plane at the Pentagon" is, like "missiles at the wtc", an attempt to hide the "real" smoking gun which is "no plane in Shanksville." SIGH.

Prof Jones has mentioned "taggants" several times. Once in an email exchange with me, and again in the email he posted up on Blogger.

His conclusions about taggants are mistaken.

Identification Taggants aren't placed in explosives so you can test to see if explosives were used after the explosion. That is not how they discover whether or not an explosive was used.

Identification Taggants in post explosion investigation are merely used to try and determine the MANUFACTURER and the LOT NUMBER of the specific explosive. That way they can trace down who bought the stuff.

"Detection taggants" are like perfumes. They give of gasses that bomb sniffing dogs can detect. The idea there is to allow "sniffer machines" and dogs to detect the bomb on the terrorist before he gets into where-ever he is going.

But even investigative taggants primarily DON'T exist in premanufactured mining/demo grade explosives...

Do you know why?

"Whilst detection taggants are universally used, this is not the case with identification taggants; in particular there are arguments that there may be minimal benefit in practice to law enforcement agencies compared to the cost to industry of the taggant."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taggant

You see, the idea of taggants was a good idea that came straight from the forensic explosive investigation field... but along the political path, someone, somewhere decided it would cost INDUSTRY too much money... and guess what?

End result? there ARE NO TAGGANTS in det cord...

let me repeat that... there ARE NO TAGGANTS in det cord.

there are no "taggants" in linear shaped charges either, for that matter.

But even if there were, you DON'T use taggants to determine if explosives were used... you simply use them (were they included) trace who made it and who that lot was sold to.

TWA Flight 800 sat in salt water for, what, months? They were still able to detect trace residual explosive signatures of... PETN and RDX in the wreckage...

We can still test people's samples they scooped up that day or the next...

"The future is not inherited, it is achieved." JFK

They are working over time trying to confuse people and cast doubt. We strictly focus on the Pentagon, is there any other reason why we were so successful in our efforts? Is there any other reason why we should be focused on and attacked relentlessly?

We represent a serious SNAFU in their containing of the event. That is why Arabesque, Victronix, Hoffman have been dispatched.

You can tell by the trends that they are trying to stop it from spreading within the movement. This seems to be key. They thought the movement was dying out. The last thing they need is people being rejuvenated and chanting "what about the north side?"..."Arrest Lloyde England!"

Russell Pickering My PENTAGON

Submitted by shure on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:15pm