A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon

It's good to take a break from 9/11 once and a while, so here for your pleasure is a short intermission, presenting the movie "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon".
Actually, it's not just a break from 9/11, I actually find it relevant to 9/11 in that there definitely are similarities between the two conspiracies: 1) the massive scale of the conspiracy 2) the Huge Historical Lie involved 3) the ramifications
watch A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon
After watching this video, I doubt anyone would not have at least a sliver of doubt about the official truth of the moon landings, IMHO.
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....4)some of the same
....4)some of the same players apparently involved (Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeld.....)
The dark side of the moon:
The dark side of the moon:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=2304895215368202642&ei=ygSHSqepB4...
...which is a concise version of the french film: Opération Lune (with interviews of Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Haig and many others in English):
http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=op%C3%A9ration+lune&hl=de&client=fi...
Interestingly enough this film has been violently smeared on French TV by the historian Alexander Adler who also happen to be a notorious -and shameless- Zionist propagandist specialized on the "holocaust".
It's a mocumentary, not a
It's a mocumentary, not a documentary.
That's right...
...and Capricorn One http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-364883774856478814 is definitely a fiction. However they both offer very clear evidence.
A real documentary would have no chance of being aired so clever film makers present the evidence under the guise of parody.
dark side/flag
wow, STanley in England, how well this could all tie in together.
some thought about the flag waving bit, has been occupying my little mind. Most debunkers say that it was waving because it was being handled, therefore, shaken; and they do admit that a rod was placed across the top to keep it in flying position. It was supposedly made out of a nylon material, and the wrinkles in the material were from being folded which would not unwrinkle in 1/6 earth's gravity. However, if it were so light to begin with, being made of nylon, and with so much less gravity on the moon, would the flag not even need a horizontal rod to keep it from collapsing? the rod made it look like there was no gravity. i'm stuck.
And the point is to have a doubt
rather than flat-out disbelieve. If you aren't looking back and critically re-assessing every major "myth" of the 20th century (and earlier) then you've missed the central lesson of 9/11.
debunker site regarding belts and more
http://www.clavius.org/envrad.html
the jury is out, imo
so, there were 6 Apollo missions - 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, with 13 being aborted (great film by the way). Could these all have been staged? had not even thought to question moon landings until just recently.
my personal jury has only one or two holdouts...
interesting question kate--i think that if they faked one, faking more would have been progressively easier, not more difficult. just think about it for a second, that all those trips to the moon happened in a span of about 3 years, that they all happened under Nixon, that they all happened in the worst years of the Vietnam War, that no one has ever done since, that the people (NASA) who say they did it in 69 say they can't do it again until 2028 and beyond, that many of the records ended up being lost--the whole thing is just so problematic that I'm surprised more people don't have doubts--but I understand why, it's the psychological effects, that are similar to those at work in 9/11 truth denial. it "just couldn't be". "someone would have spilled the beans". "I can't possibly have been so stupid". et cetera. Now, I know I wasn't being stupid when I had no doubts, I just wasn't thinking critically--I was trusting. I no longer trust "conventional wisdom" as I used to--i'll decide what i find likely and unlikely and will not be bullied into believing I believe something if i don't really believe it, nor will I be shamed into keeping silent about my skepticism about anything. beliefs that depend on that kind of self-censorship based on fear of public shame or of offending certain groups are beliefs that beg crticial inquiry, imo.
thanks, Gretavo
it's new research for me. are you going to pursue the dosimeter readings issue?
i posted on FB regarding the moon hoax last evening and was baraged and beaten down (well, not really, not more than expected). I just do not want to jeopardize my 911 truthing reputation with moon hoax material unless it's really quite solid, or at least "the right stuff". However, as you say, the Apollo mission appears to fit right in with the mindfuck MOs of other demented and deviant perpetrators.
i think the key is not to claim more knowledge than we have
of course people will react strongly against anything that lies outside their "normal" worldview, and that can indeed be a problem when trying to open their minds to other difficult subjects. i think that's why people like Eric Hufschmid, who I don't think is sincere, lump everything together--they know that that will maximize the chances of its being dismissed out of hand, i.e. without investigation. i was pretty sure 9/11 was a lie when i came across Hufschmid's site, so it wasn't hard for me to then believe that there were other issues that merited similar skepticism. someday i hope someone decides to go beyond the simplistic "paranoid personality type" explanation to find out why some people are more open to evidence of wrongdoing than others...
are these data public?
from the clavius site, referring to radiation:
"So then was it measured on Apollo?
Yes. Each astronaut wore a personal dosimeter. The accumulated dose for each astronaut was regularly reported to Mission Control over the radio. "
I'd like to see exactly what was measured, when, and where!
Health threat from cosmic rays
So, apparently the moon missions weren't long enough for cosmic rays (never mind the van allen belts which are only part of the issue) to be a factor. But nowhere does there seem to be any mention of actual quantitative analysis of the Apollo astronauts "personal Dosimeters". Sounds like a crock to me!
Health threat from cosmic rays
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The health threat from cosmic rays is the danger posed by cosmic rays generated by the Sun and other stars to astronauts on interplanetary missions. Cosmic rays consists of high energy protons and other nuclei. They are one of the most important barriers standing in the way of plans for interplanetary travel by crewed spacecraft.[1]
Contents [hide]
1 The deep-space radiation environment
2 Effects
3 Mitigation
3.1 Shielding
3.2 Drugs
3.3 Timing of missions
4 See also
5 Notes
6 References
7 External links
[edit] The deep-space radiation environment
The radiation environment of deep space is very different from that on the earth's surface or in low earth orbit, due to the much larger flux of high-energy galactic cosmic rays (GCRs), along with radiation from solar proton events and the radiation belts.
Life on the earth's surface is protected from galactic cosmic rays by a number of factors:
The earth's atmosphere is opaque to primary cosmic rays with energies below about 1 GeV, so only secondary radiation can reach the surface. The secondary radiation is also attentuated by absorption in the atmosphere, as well as by radioactive decay in flight of some particles, such as muons. Particles entering from a direction close to the horizon are especially attenuated.
Shielding by the bulk of the planet itself cuts the flux by a factor of two.
Except for the very highest energy galactic cosmic rays, the radius of gyration in the earth's magnetic field is small enough to ensure that they are deflected away from Earth ("geomagnetic shielding");
The sun's magnetic field has a similar effect, tending to exclude galactic cosmic rays from the plane of the ecliptic in the inner solar system.
As a result the energy input of GCRs to the atmosphere is negligible — about 10?9 of solar radiation - roughly the same as starlight.[2]
Of the above four factors, all but the first one apply to low earth orbit craft, such as the International Space Station. Therefore, the only astronauts who have ever been exposed to a significant radiation flux from galactic cosmic rays are those in the Apollo program. Since the durations of the Apollo missions were days rather than years, the doses involved were small compared to what would occur, for example, on a crewed mission to Mars.
[edit] Effects
Like other ionizing radiation, high-energy cosmic rays can damage DNA, increasing the risk of cancer, cataracts, neurological disorders, and non-cancer mortality risks.[3]
The Apollo astronauts reported seeing flashes in their eyeballs, which may have been galactic cosmic rays, and there is some speculation that they may have experienced a higher incidence of cancer. However, the duration of the longest Apollo flights was less than two weeks, limiting the maximum exposure. There were only 24 such astronauts, making statistical analysis of the effects nearly impossible.
The health threat depends on the flux, energy spectrum, and nuclear composition of the rays. The flux and energy spectrum depend on a variety of factors: short-term solar weather, long-term trends (such as an apparent increase since the 1950s[4]), and position in the sun's magnetic field. These factors are incompletely understood. The Mars Radiation Environment Experiment (MARIE) was launched in 2001 in order to collect more data. Estimates are that humans unshielded in interplanetary space would receive annually roughly 400 to 900 milli-Sieverts (mSv) (compared to 2.4 mSv on Earth) and that a Mars mission (12 months in flight and 18 months on Mars) might expose shielded astronauts to ~500 to 1000 mSv.[4] These doses approach the 1 to 4 Sv career limits advised by the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements for Low Earth orbit activities.
The quantitative biological effects of cosmic rays are poorly known, and are the subject of ongoing research. Several experiments, both in space and on Earth, are being carried out to evaluate the exact degree of danger. Experiments at Brookhaven National Laboratory's Booster accelerator revealed that the biological damage due to a given exposure is actually about half what was previously estimated: specifically, it turns out that low energy protons cause more damage than high energy ones. This is explained by the fact that slower particles have more time to interact with molecules in the body.
[edit] Mitigation
[edit] Shielding
Material shielding may be partially effective against galactic cosmic rays in certain energy ranges, but may actually make the problem worse for some of the higher energy rays, because more shielding causes an increased amount of secondary radiation. The aluminum walls of the ISS, for example, are believed to have a net beneficial effect. In interplanetary space, however, it is believed that aluminum shielding would have a negative net effect.[5]
Several strategies are being studied for ameliorating the effects of this radiation hazard for planned human interplanetary spaceflight:
Spacecraft can be constructed out of hydrogen-rich plastics, rather than aluminum.[6]
Material shielding has been considered. Liquid hydrogen, which would be brought along as fuel in any case, tends to give relatively good shielding, while producing relatively low levels of secondary radiation. Therefore, the fuel could be placed so as to act as a form of shielding around the crew. Water, which is necessary to sustain life, could also contribute to shielding.[7]
Electromagnetic fields may also be a possibility.[5]
None of these strategies currently provides a method of protection that would be known to be sufficient, while using known engineering principles and conforming to likely limitations on the mass of the payload. The required amount of material shielding would be too heavy to be lifted into space. Electromagnetic shielding has a number of problems: (1) the fields act in opposite directions on positively and negatively charged particles, so shielding that excludes positively charged galactic cosmic rays will tend to attract negative ions; (2) a very large power supply would be required in order to run the electrostatic and magnetostatic generators, and superconducting materials might have to be used for magnetic coils; (3) the possible field patterns might tend to dump charged particles into one area of the spacecraft. Part of the uncertainty is that the effect of human exposure to galactic cosmic rays is poorly known in quantitative terms. NASA has a Space Radiation Shielding Program to study the problem.
[edit] Drugs
Another line of research is the development of drugs that mimic and/or enhance the body's natural capacity to repair damage caused by radiation. Some of the drugs that are being considered are retinoids, which are vitamins with antioxidant properties, and molecules that retard cell division, giving the body time to fix damage before harmful mutations can be duplicated.
[edit] Timing of missions
Due to the potential negative effects of astronaut exposure to cosmic rays, solar activity may play a role in future space travel via the Forbush decrease effect. Coronal mass ejections (CMEs) can temporarily lower the local cosmic ray levels, and radiation from CMEs is easier to shield against than cosmic rays.
[edit] See also
Space portal
Space weather
[edit] Notes
this paper from NASA doesn't mention the word Apollo :)
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/spacenews/factsheets/pdfs/radiation.pdf
Surely they are ignoring a trove of data on the amount of radiation measured by the Apollo astronauts personal dosimeters! Do we need to file a FOIA request for this data? :)