Gretavo, in answer to your question re: what Russian MiGs might accomplish –

Lazlo Toth's picture

Gretavo, in answer to your question re: what Russian MiGs might accomplish – I would have to give you the same answer that British PM Neville Chamberlain got when he asked his counselors what could possibly be gained by attacking Nazi Germany with the Royal Air Force, and that answer is: to defend the civilized world against an aggressive militaristic tyranny which WILL NOT STOP until it is ‘taken out’ by a united force of arms. I think it is fairly crystal clear by now, sixty years later, even to those who are not familiar with all of the historical intricacies of how the modern state of Israel came to be, that this polity now stands fully naked and unashamed before the eyes of humanity as the planet’s numero uno arrogant outlaw state; a lying, racist apartheid terror state; and serial killing, psycho-sociopathic blood-sucking parasite upon the entire world.

It is one of those little discussed, Nature Channel biological facts, that the blood-sucking leech, even in the interests of its own preservation, does not know when to stop sucking on its host. Because of this peculiar characteristic, it will eventually, in its insatiable hunger and lust, consume so much blood that its body eventually explodes from the severe excess of its intake.

The modern “state” of Israel is now the greatest force of evil and depravity on the planet today (cf. its child sex slavery rings, etc., etc.). It is an “entity” which cannot be trusted for a single damn minute—EVERY word from that government (and its supporters around the globe) is, and has been, a complete LIE—and it understands one thing, and one thing only, the Language of Military Force and Terrorist Fear. Israel is the new, global “Nazi threat” of the 21st century, and the sooner the world removes its Zio-media-brainwashed head from out of its ass and comes to grip with this highly unpleasant fact, the better off this world will be. There is most definitely a global ‘War on Terror’ that needs to be waged, but the Arabs and the Persians are not the “terrorists.” O Highly Naive America, on September 11, 2001 you were brutally attacked by your treacherous ally Israel and its evil servants lodged, mole-like, inside your very House. The Enemy is now firmly inside the gates and sitting in the seats of political and financial power (cf. Rahmbo EmanuHell). You have let the wise and prescient words of your founding fathers and patriotic generals go unheeded. The carpetbaggers and moneychangers have taken you from the inside. This ‘Israel’ is no one’s friend or ally, except for the Shaitan himself. They are “THE ENEMY,” and THEY ARE INSIDE OUR GOVERNMENTS (see also: the militant stance of the now fully awakened people of Iceland, whose criminal Zionist “First Lady” has already dashed off to the Mafioso shelter of Israhell).

And Casseia, in this hopeful aside and wishful comment of mine regarding Russian MiG fighter jets coming to save the day for the long-suffering people of Palestine, I hope that you do not think that I am personally “threatening the Jooz.” This whole situation, as you have noticed from the recent, horrific photographic and film footage, is much larger than the words being typed on my little powerless keyboard. It is Vladimir Putin and the Russian military who have recently set up high-tech, lethal, and fully loaded Russian military bases to the west of Israel (in Libya) and to the north of Israel (in Syria) in the event of Israel’s bombing of Iran. It has been publicly reported in Pravda and other Russian media outlets, as well as in the Iranian media, that IF Israel bombs Iran over their nuclear electrical power plant program, Russia will step in from the west and from the north to TAKE OUT THE STATE OF ISRAHELL once and for all (as in, “off-the-map” style). Haifa, Tel Aviv, and Herzliya, etc. will go total disappearo. This little cancerous tumor in the Middle East will be fully excised for the good of the majority residents on this planet. The strategic positioning of these two Russian military bases in the Middle East is no idle, politically angry blogger-type “threat.” This is 100%, on the ground, in the neighborhood, “real-world” history in the making. Of course, the psycho nutfucks who run the state of Israhell, and the Satanic rabbis who egg them ever onward to the edge of history’s final cliff, will not ask the Israeli people’s permission to play this ultimately fatal game of Russian roulette, no pun intended. They didn’t ask the Jews of Europe the first time around when they picadored Hitler and the German people into the World Zionist Organization’s “happy concentration camper” plan either. Nor did the Haganah ask the prior permission of the 252 Rumanian and Hungarian Jews they murdered (trying to blame it on the British) when they blew up the immigration ship S.S. Patria in Haifa’s harbour on November 25, 1940.

And Richard (supah beautiful write-up, btw), I hope that what you say about Lev Leviev and Vladimir Putin being friends is a piece of mistaken information. That would be a real blow to global freedom, because I am well aware of who Lev Leviev is, and forgive my employment of controversial terms from the German language, but Leviev is 100% pure, by strict definition, untermensch criminal filth.

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2008/09/thank-god-lev-leviev-is-n...

I find it quite difficult to believe that an Orthodox Russian Christian like Putin would be good buddies in any way shape or form with Zionist Mafia trash like Leviev. Putin, perhaps, I hope, is merely following the old maxim of ‘keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer’.

Although I appreciate your incomprehensible saintliness, Richard, when you wish no suffering upon the likes of Zippy ‘the pinhead’ Livni, Benny Nut-and-yahoo, and the two Ehuds (Olmert and Barack), but they shall suffer greatly nonetheless, despite your saintly compassionate wishes, for the inescapable judgment of G-d and history await them, no matter what you or they may hope for, or believe. They act like drunken gamblers, believing that this short, mundane existence is all that there is. I think they will, in the end, be sorely disappointed at their frivolous and foolish gamble.

On your mentioning the belief that no super heroes will arrive to “save the day,” I would have to respectfully disagree with you on that. The good people of this planet are all super heroes, and WE WILL “SAVE THE DAY.” I think you greatly underestimate the potential of a united, awakened humanity and the FINAL moral outrage of the American people against the Zio-banksters who have stolen their futures, for they are a people and a nation forged by the sacrifices of the world’s first Democratic and Armed Revolution against Tyranny. I assure you that the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting deer, at least according to American Constitutional scholars.

Sadly, morally and historically, it has come down to this: “You are either with Humanity, or you are with the Zionists.” There is no middle ground left, for that is all gone now; recently carpet-bombed by the cowardly dweebs of the IAF, who will soon be drugging themselves into smoke-hazy forgetfulness of their crimes on a fun-filled charas (hashish) vacation to India.

9/11 was their official declaration of war against the American people and the Gaza Holocaust is their official declaration of war against Humanity. We must now ask of our friends, neighbors, local media personalities, and government representatives which side they have decided to join – that of Evil, or that of Good. Yes, after Gaza, everything has once again returned to a shade of stark black, or transcendent white. After the Gaza Holocaust, everything is different, and much more defined around the edges, and all the way into the middle as well.

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E Vero's picture

I'm so confused

Interesting post, Laz. I agree that the world should not show mercy to these dogs. But what to do about the problem that not all those living in IsraHell are culpable and some living outside IsraHell are?

A week or so ago I posted here someone's comments on another blog about the sordid history of the USA. The post minimized the role of 9/11 in the larger context of world events. I posted it to remind others of the hidden history of vile anglo-american influence. I guess I'm becoming "Chumpskian" in that I don't think that 9/11 is the whole deal. I am _not_ saying that 9/11 is not worth investigating or that Israel had no role in this obvious false-flag attack. But there do seem to be wider forces at work.

Let's not be simplistic: There is a network of criminals who won't disappear even if IsraHell is wiped off the map. I agree that Israel is currently a great place for criminals of a certain strip to run and hide. But, Lazlo, what makes you think you know for sure that obliterating that piece of real estate would do the trick? If Russia did that -- the US would attack Russia, who would then attack the US, etc.

Even if someone (Putin, whoever) successfully took out Israel, there are other suspects waiting in the wings to dominate some other piece of real estate (e.g., India). Let's take a guess are who these powers might be - hmmm, I don't know, what about the horrific role in world wars that the central bankers have? Doesn't that make them suspect? Wouldn't you want to get rid of the Federal Reserve (and indeed all central banks)? And just how would we rid the US of traitors when they are in fact everywhere in our congress, justice dept, state dept, white house, cia/homeland security, etc.? WTF?

Check out this video:
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/khazar-empire-illuminati...

Q: Does this even makes sense about WWIII (toward the end of the video)? That WWIII is in the offing and is designed to pit Zionists against Muslims so that all are killed...makes it sound like larger world forces than Israel are orchestrating events. Or some Khazars are perfectly willing to sacrifice all of IsraeHell in their zeal to gain world hegemony. They never cared about "Zion" any way, I'm sure, except as a vehicle to fulfill their aspirations of world power.

I read this book recently, "Synagogue of Satan" by Andrew Hitchcock. Same stuff all laid out on a time-line, unfortunately, no references. I've met no one else who has or will read it -- including hubby! -- so would love to hear anyone's comments. I put that book down and felt very scared. No one can convince me of the "accidental" theory of history again.

The Thirteenth Tribe was a landslide publication; I read it and then just read this tidbit about it:

"As expected, The Thirteenth Tribe caused a stir when published in 1976, since it demolishes ancient racial and ethnic dogmas…At the height of the controversy in 1983, the lifeless bodies of Arthur Koestler and his wife were found in their London home. Despite significant inconsistencies, the police ruled their death a suicide…"

(I'm sure that that new book by Israeli historian Schlomo Sand will never get published in English. Hopefully someone will translate it from French or Hebrew and post it on the web.)

What I come back to again and again is that it's time for world-wide wake up. If Israelis know what is going on, then perhaps they will overthrow their racist regime and denounce their "good books" as the calls to genocide and world domination that they are.

I know, Richard, you will think my post naive -- there will always be criminals as long as their are human beings who thrive on forming dominance hierarchies. We cannot change human nature. But there has got to be something between "rolling over" (Richard's approach) and killing "them" all (Lazlo's approach). Education is key...but is it enough? Maybe revelation backed by the threat of violence. Showing people that you know what is going on and that you're not going to swallow their shit any more is a great start. But just killing them makes us as bad as them, n'cest pas?

I had this interesting talk with my dad yesterday. He lived through the first great depression and is confronting the second. Do any of you think you would kill to obtain food?
I'm not sure I would, but I've (fortunately) never been that hungry. One foot is out the door, too, but my other foot wants to stay and fight for freedom.

Confused in ny,
E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

Lazlo Toth's picture

Dear Confused in NY:

Howdy and a warm salaam ‘alayki, E-Vero. I’m glad you are still here, hangin’ out on Uncle Gretavo’s Conspiracy Theory Island of the Damned. You sound just as confused as the eponymous patriarch Abraham of Mesopotamia was. This dilemma of the Innocent being punished along with the Wicked in a divinely conceived massacre to purify the world was, as you know, also a subject dealt with by the early authors of the Torah in the ol’ Sodom and Gomorrah Incident.

“Abraham came forward and said, ‘Will You sweep away the innocent along with the guilty? What if there should be fifty innocent within the city; will You then wipe out the place and not forgive it for the sake of the innocent fifty who are in it? Far be it from You to do such a thing, to bring death upon the innocent as well as the guilty, so that innocent and guilty fare alike. Far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal justly?’”
(Genesis 18:23-25)

My humble suggestion: If you are one of the “innocent,” and “the state of Israel” foolishly decides to attack Iran, either by itself, or through its U.S. Master-Blaster proxy army, leave the country, and as G-d and Bob Dylan have sung, DON’T LOOK BACK! As you mentioned, many of the wicked, cowardly puppet masters behind this show are living outside of Israel (by design), and that is why the fight against this criminal cartel has to take the form of a united international effort. Both Christians and Muslims must unite on an international basis to fight against this terrorist enemy that seeks to pit both these parties against each other in a WWIII death match to assure their mutual destruction, which, of course, ultimately benefits this other third party which hides behind the six-pointed star of their own Luciferian imaginations.

And NO, Lazlo’s stance is not “Let’s kill ‘em all,” or “if Israel is carpet-bombed out of existence, the real global menace behind the world’s problems will be solved.” Give me just a tiny bit of credit for not being completely nutzo ignorant. I do have a list of about 2,000 thoroughly demonic entities who, for the good of the planet, really do need to be rounded up, have all of their global assets seized, and be put to work in license plate manufacturing detention centers in the Antarctic, or barring that, just whack ‘em YHWH Soprano style. And there, of course, goes my bid for sainthood and the 2009 Mahatma Gumbhi Peace Award. Oh well, I just got done labeling 300 digital photos of the Gaza Holocaust. I may never fully recover from the gut-wrenching, visual horror of this project. How many blown apart body parts can one man take in a three-day period? The people of Gaza, they have spiritual and moral strength of character and levels of endurance that are now, quite honestly, far beyond my helpless ability to even vaguely conceptualize or comprehend.

Ah yes, you mention the innocent Jews inside the gates of Sodom and Gomorrah:
There have been huge demonstrations across Canada—naturally, unreported by our Izzy Asper-controlled ZioNazi media—where Jews, wholly unaffiliated with Neturei Karta, have been parading HUGE banners saying: Not In Our Name: Jews Against Zionism and the Gaza Holocaust. I have the photos to prove it. There are Khazarian Jews who are completely against the atheistic Zionist land-stealing project, and then there are “good” Khazarian Jews who want to maintain the status quo of their grandparents’ land theft, but along the U.N. decreed demarcation lines of 1967. Both Hamas and Fatah have even agreed to this fait accompli! I personally think that the Jews should leave Palestine altogether, ultimately recognizing that they are not Semitic, nor are they the “people of the Bible,” and that no imaginary Canaanite deity gave ANYBODY any eternal real estate rights in that land whatsoever. Certainly, in the sphere of empirical, real-world history, neither the British, nor the U.N. had any right whatsoever to demarcate anyone’s borders or to simply give the Arab Palestinians’ country away to Polish and Russian Jews whose descendents only converted to Judaism for “business reasons” in the early 9th century C.E., two centuries AFTER Islam had already been established. The Khazarians were essentially worshipping phallic fetishes and stone idols while Islam was sweeping the Near, Middle, and Far East. In other words, the ancestors of Abe Foxhole and Al Dershobitch were still practicing, card-carrying pagans when the entire Middle East had been already been converted to Abrahamic monotheism under Islam for a full two centuries! The whole Zionist project from the get-go has been nothing but a huge fraud and con-job to facilitate the global hegemonic dreams of the Bauerberg (Rothschild) Crime Family. The “Holy Land,” which they have basically turned into a gigantic whorehouse, is simply a nest where the global Jewish Banking Class can run to escape international criminal charges. It is a country having no criminal extradition laws, and one which merely functions as a haven for the demonic and ungodly who cynically wear the Halloween costumes of the ‘Semitic tribes of the Bible’. The real Jewish Rabbis, at the beginning of the 20th century, all considered Theodor Herzl to be the literal incarnation of Satan on earth. Don’t make me bring out the quotes; oh yeah, they’re already on my blog-space here, never mind.

On the topic of Christian Russia and their new dual military footholds in the Middle East, I do not believe for a single moment that Vladimir Putin is under the influence of some type of crazed bloodlust to wipe out Israel, but I will say that without this strategic placement of deterrent Russian military hardware and personnel in the region, Israel might have already struck Iran. The whole underlying major point of my recent comments here has been to point out that if no one has the guts to point some Really Big Guns at the “Neighborhood Bully,” then that bully will just continue to arrogantly act with a sense of untouchable impunity and continue with its program of wanton genocide. After all, flower child Neville Chamberlain did not stop the Nazi aggression in Europe, Churchill did. Although highly unpleasant and a complete, total drag, sometimes history forces you to pull out the “big stick” and use it on the aggressive fuckhead mahfahkz who refuse to listen to reason. I don’t believe that Putin really wants to pull that trigger, but if necessary, he will, as he has plainly stated, and under those circumstances, Israel is gonna get fucked up permanently. It is my prayer that world Jewry will wake the fuck up as to how they’re being manipulated by the same elitists who ultimately had put them into the German detention camps in the first place, and depose that leadership (cf. WZO, AIPAC, ADL, etc.). Ask yourself this: why wasn’t the entire Rothschild family the very first group of Jews to be rounded up by the Gestapo? In fact, the Rothschilds weren’t rounded up by Hitler’s men at all. Hmmm.....

On the double standards of worrying about “the innocent,” how is it that whenever anyone mentions punishing global Zionism and the “Jews” who have supported its crimes for a century now, everyone has to all of a sudden worry about separating the innocent from the guilty? Did the WZO, when they urged the Allies to firebomb Dresden, worry about separating the innocent from the guilty? My Jewish maternal grandmother was born in and grew up in Dresden and survived through that horrific massacre (do see the photos). Did Chaim Weizmann think about her and the other Jews living there in his bloodlust to destroy the innocent German people in Dresden? Did anyone worry about the innocent German farmers who were slaughtered by the Jewish Bolsheviks and their Polish allies in the Danzig corridor in 1939? (cf. the recently discovered mass graves there) Does anyone worry about the innocent Palestinians who have been slowly massacred for 60 fucking years in Palestine? No, only when you mention “the Jews,” does anyone start to worry about separating the innocent wheat from the wicked chaff. The era of Zionist propaganda concerning double standards on GENOCIDE has to end. The era of racist, anti-Semitic faux Jews murdering actual Semitic peoples in the Midddle East under the cover of a concocted non-historical “holocaust,” where photos of murdered Christians from the Ukraine, for example, are placed in Holohoax museums as “murdered Jews” has to come to an end for there to be Peace on this planet. I will not sit by silently on these things for the sake of G-d-damned “Political Correctness,” which is yet another Zionist Bullshit Scheme (ZBS) to protect the real criminals from their very real and historical crimes.

And speaking of criminals, who do you think is running the global Central Banking System, and the media, the universities, the judicial system, the Congress, the Senate, the White House, the Pentagon, etc? You know perfectly well who. You’ve read the forbidden books. Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, et al. explicitly warned us in great detail long, long ago, but no, they’re just a bunch of anti-Semite revolutionary philosophers; we shouldn’t listen to them, and now we are totally and completely fucked without a slingshot between us. What to do? Pray for a miracle and pray that world Jewry removes their brainwashed heads from out of their arse cavities and deposes the incarnate Satanic leadership that has been speaking in their names for, oh several centuries now by my reckoning.

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> Did anyone worry about the

> Did anyone worry about the innocent German farmers who were slaughtered by the Jewish Bolsheviks and their Polish allies in the Danzig corridor in 1939? (cf. the recently discovered mass graves there)

The recently discovered graves are of people killed in 1945 by the Soviet army, not 1939:

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479253,00.html

As the Red Army was advancing in early 1945, the inhabitants of Malbork were ordered to evacuate. Some refused, while others were prevented from doing so by the general chaos of the nearing front.
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There were some massacres committed by the Polish government in the first weeks of WWII, but these recent excavations have nothing to do with that. And of course the Polish government of 1939 was a Right-wing Catholic government which was hostile towards both Jews and Bolsheviks.

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Patrick, glad to see you’re still hovering around here.

And thank you for your clarification of details. Gosh, I was wholly unaware that Poland has been a Catholic country for like, 20,000 years. You seem to have this kind of fly-like mentality that misses all the really important points of a long, detailed comment on current events and only attaches itself to the little turds of nitpicky irrelevant inaccuracies which, on the whole, have nothing much to do with the general, big-picture discussion at hand. Did you attend the same rabbinical school as Mark Regev? Do you have one of those Bolshevik software alert things on your desktop so that when anyone on the internet tubes mentions ‘Trotsky’ or the ‘Red Army’, it alerts you to rush to your laptop? What do you think about the Zionist genocide over the last few decades in Palestine? Have you seen any of the photos or videos coming out of Gaza lately, or don’t you care? I think you need to get a girlfriend, or boyfriend, or a job, or something. Oh yeah, what did you think of that photo gallery of the Bromberg Massacres? Was Hitler and the German kids nailed to their father’s barns just hallucinating, or was that just a very good Photoshop job? Did you know that Stalin was actually a Tahitian Buddhist?

E Vero's picture

are you a pussy, Laz?

Hi Lazlo,
So, is that your answer? Bomb civilians into oblivion? What a super idea -- it's worked so well before! Gee, with that answer, I'm sure war will be a thing of the past.

Not. Dresden was wrong, and so are you on this point.

That being said, I'm glad that Russia has some guns stationed - perhaps you are right, bullies only listen to force. I just don't want the force used.

Yes, I too saw the pictures of the civilians killed - maimed and mutilated, and to what end? Israel lost. I want all those in charge arrested and tried. Yes, I know Israel engages in ex-judicial killings, which is wrong. Yes, I know that "nation" hides a cesspool of banksters, pedophiles, drug-traffickers, etc. Yes, they are pusillanimous bullies. Yes, yes, yes. But we do not have to act like they do.

I personally think a wall should be built around Israel while the trials are going on and the history books are rewritten properly to reveal the damage done by these people. Palestine for Palestinians. Evict the interlopers -- send them back to whatever country their ancestors came from -- Poland, Russia, etc. Some jews came from Palestine, and they can stay.

I also know about the grip on the media, politicians, etc., as evidenced by some comments I wrote (and almost got kicked out for by Gretavo) a while back. I said that I am no longer going to be friends with or tolerate any one who sides with Israel and/or believes the hogwash in the Torah or Talmud. To believe oneself chosen is dangerous. Even the Naturei Karta are dangerous - presumably they would behave similarly to the zionists if only their messiah (whomever they identify) would finally show up.

Penny for your thoughts, back, Laz. It seems every time I respond to someone on this blog, they don't reply (really just Cass and Gretavo), and that makes me think people don't like a good argument. (Or maybe they're pussies!)

E
p.s. here's the material I posted earlier (from a comment on les visible's blog):

'No question that what's going on in the Gaza is a hideous outrage, but I would only rank it #5 on my list of insipid (sic) "Jewish / Zionist Endeavors".

#1 Due to their complete control of Hollywood / TV "programming" (perfect term), tens of millions [Ron: the true number is probably closer to hundreds of millions] daily are subjected to their de-humanizations, violence, sexual perversions, misinformation, and general mindless idiocy - and that is only the content in which you can consciously see and hear. What is far more debilitating to us is their use of subliminal audio / video and a variety of occult symbols and imagery. Ad nauseum.

#2 Due to their complete control of the mainstream media (including publishing), the truth about almost any event either historical or current is nearly impossible to ascertain without much effort and digging in a variety of alternative sources - and then only when you've unplugged to a certain extent and been away from standard education (secondary and post-secondary) for enough time for the brainwashing to have faded a little. Hundreds of millions affected daily.

#3 Due to their nearly complete control of modern medicine (including of course Big Pharma and it's grubby cousin, Big Oil), every natural treatment / protocol / cure is viciously attacked and suppressed at all times, and human disease is not only allowed to continue but is actually accelerated by many means. Toxic drugs, vaccine poisons, research fraud, complete lack of science. This is why so many Jews are doctors, and why the FDA, AMA, and almost all foundations and agencies involved with health care are completely dominated. Hundreds of millions affected. Certain groups (blacks, native Indians, mentally handicapped, gays) actually targeted by genocide programs.

#4 Due to their complete ownership of banking and the physical production of currency and establishment of credit, they have the power to control Kings, Presidents, entire governments, entire countries and have for quite some time now. 99% of the planet is affected by their usury, inflation, debt, variety of Ponzi schemes and outright theft. Wall Street has been their own little Monopoly board since its creation. It is all illusion.

#5 Gaza and the Palestinians.

#6 Mossad and its infiltration into telecommunications and computer software and eavesdropping planet-wide.

#7 Mossad and its various false-flag terrorist operations including its participation in 9/11.

#8 Due to their heavy influence in the judiciary, justice for "outsiders" is nearly completely extinct. All law is actually contract law now, and through the B.A.R. they control (not to mention all the Jewish lawyers and judges) the outcomes of much of it. They even created the corporation that you think is you, probably after some satanic ritual on Jekyl Island back in the day.

#9 Control and domination of corporations that produce stuff that essentially kills us, albeit slowly and after many doctor's visits and a couple of long hospital stays. Even Starbucks would be included here, along with the obvious Big Tabacco, Booze producers, etc.

#10 Systematic gaming and manipulation of sporting events around the World in order to make billions on all the betting markets. Naturally, the commissioners of all 5 Sports Leagues in North America are Jewish, as are over half the owners, as are over 70% of agents, as are over 80% of lawyers and accountants within the sporting realm. Add to this the major hosts like Bob Costas & Al Michaels & Chris Berman, and even almost all the interviewers on the field, some of whom are older women!!! The crooked refs like Tim Donaghy and others... the Black Sox scandal was only when they got caught. All sports are fixed, the degree to which is directly related to how much money rides on the particular game. The fixing doesn't bother me as much as pondering where all that money goes and what it finances / funds. This is a major problem and accounts for a hefty percentage of so-called Black Op money (along with the illicit drug trade and the sex trade of course, both of which are run by the intelligence community / Jews).'

There you have it.
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Lazlo Toth's picture

Hey E V, thanks for your great comments and that Top Ten List,

Hey E V, thanks for your great comments and that Top Ten List, wow! True, true. I saved it to Word. Word.

I don’t seriously advocate the barbarism of carpet-bombing civilians like the Israelis do in their wars against the ‘Amelekites’, but as a public service, bloggers and researchers do have a duty to point out that this whole notion of nuking Persia and starting up “WWIV–the Final Solution,” one which certain people running for the post of Israeli PM entertain within their Zionist mental landscapes, is just comic book insane. Let’s see, who has already pledged military support to Iran if Israel attacks their mutual and valuable trading partner? Oh, why that would be Putin’s Russia and, wait for it, ...Communist CHINA! If you’re Israel, you don’t just nuke Iran, turn around and say you’re sorry, our bad, and then give your middle finger to the world community as you stroll onto the 18th hole. And the Zionists’ threatened, global suicide “Samson Option” thing just shows that they have been watching too many re-runs of Kubrick’s “Dr. Strangelove.” Get out of those think tanks and get some fresh air, fer gosh sakes.

You wrote: “perhaps you are right, bullies only listen to force. I just don't want the force used.”

I don’t want to see any more death and destruction either, but in confronting a bully, if you don’t bring any kind of threat or capability of force to the table, that party will just roll over you and keep on moving. Those are just the hard cold facts of human history and behaviour. I was merely pointing out that what the cycles of history and empire show us is, that if Israel keeps on doing its Sgt. Uri and His Howling Commandos thing, they will reach a place in the road where a single party, or a coalition, will stand up and say no more. Like clockwork, it happens every time, so far as we know from ancient records. The heroes of Zionism and those admired by the founders of Israel are people like Michael Collins and the early IRA, Mussolini, and Bar Kokba, of course. Gandhi and his style does not cut it with these folks at all. Gandhi, in fact, didn’t seem to dig the Zionist tactic of terrorism (car bombings, kidnappings, assassinations, blowing up buildings, the usual) either, at least from what he wrote. Long Live Mahatma Gumbhi!

“Yes, they are pusillanimous bullies. Yes, yes, yes. But we do not have to act like they do.”

I wasn’t implying in any way that “we” should act like the IOF or the IAF, absolutely not. I always remember the woman in Qana, screaming into the camera during the Lebanese Holocaust™ of 2006 – “We will not let you turn us into what you have become!” Somebody with silkscreen skills should make a T-shirt of that. Seriously.

Perhaps we should just try the “Jewish Mother” plan on Israel, where we stop them in their tracks by making them feel guilty and ashamed with INFORMATION and real HISTORY. That’s why they call the research of people such as Germar Rudolf or David Cole “hate speech research,” because the carnies always hate it when their game is blown through too much INFORMATION, which then precipitously causes them to quickly pack up the carnival and leave town.

On my response to your response at this late date and hour, I don’t think it is necessarily a case of people here not liking a good argument because they're “pussies.” Sometimes it can be merely due to extreme busyness with multiple projects, or sometimes writing and posting something, after taking up to 15-20 minutes sometimes to even get on the ol’ WTCD, can be discouraging, and is a project perhaps put off to a period when more time is in one’s possession. I would rather talk than type anyways.

You wrote: “To believe oneself chosen is dangerous.”

Oh yesireebob, correcto on that, and as proof of that truism, I am posting this Al-Ahram Weekly article for your consideration and review in the light of events which have transpired in the Middle East over the last month and a half.

Do Mental Hospitals for the Religiously Insane Exist?*

GENOCIDE ANNOUNCED
By Saleh Al-Naami

Published in the April 10-16, 2008 issue of Egypt’s Al-Ahram Weekly.
Digital text source: http://www.alarabiya.net/views/2008/04/13/48244.html.
Published at alarabiya.net, Sunday, April 13, 2008.

“All of the Palestinians must be killed; men, women, infants, and even their beasts.” This was the religious opinion issued one week ago by Rabbi Yisrael Rosen, director of the Tsomet Institute, a long-established religious institute attended by students and soldiers in the Israeli settlements of the West Bank. In an article published by numerous religious Israeli newspapers two weeks ago and run by the liberal Ha’aretz on 26 March, Rosen asserted that there is evidence in the Torah to justify this stand. Rosen, an authority able to issue religious opinions for Jews, wrote that Palestinians are like the nation of Amalekites that attacked the Israelite tribes on their way to Jerusalem after they had fled from Egypt under the leadership of Moses. He wrote that the Lord sent down in the Torah a ruling that allowed the Jews to kill the Amalekites, and that this ruling is known in Jewish jurisprudence.

Rosen’s article, which created a lot of noise in Israel, included the text of the ruling in the Torah: “Annihilate the Amalekites from the beginning to the end. Kill them and wrest them from their possessions. Show them no mercy. Kill continuously, one after the other. Leave no child, plant, or tree. Kill their beasts, from camels to donkeys.” Rosen adds that the Amalekites are not a particular race or religion, but rather all those who hate the Jews for religious or national motives. Rosen goes as far as saying that the “Amalekites will remain as long as there are Jews. In every age Amalekites will surface from other races to attack the Jews, and thus the war against them must be global.” He urges application of the “Amalekites ruling” and says that the Jews must undertake to implement it in all eras because it is a “divine commandment.”

Rosen does not hesitate to define the “Amalekites of this age” as the Palestinians. He writes, “those who kill students as they recite the Torah, and fire missiles on the city of Siderot, spread terror in the hearts of men and women. Those who dance over blood are the Amalekites, and we must respond with counter-hatred. We must uproot any trace of humanitarianism in dealing with them so that we emerge victorious.”

The true outrage is that most of those authorised to issue Jewish religious opinions support the view of Rabbi Rosen, as confirmed by Ha’aretz newspaper. At the head of those supporting his opinion is Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, the leading religious authority in Israel’s religious national current, and former chief Eastern rabbi for Israel. Rosen’s opinion also has the support of Rabbi Dov Lior, president of the Council of Rabbis of Judea and Samaria (the West Bank), and Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, the chief rabbi of Safed and a candidate for the post of chief rabbi of Israel. A number of political leaders in Israel have also shown enthusiasm for the opinion, including Ori Lubiansky, head of the Jerusalem municipality.

There is no dispute among observers in Israel that the shooting in Jerusalem three weeks ago that killed eight Jewish students in a religious school was pivotal for Jewish authorities issuing religious opinions of a racist, hateful nature. The day following the Jerusalem incident, a number of rabbis led by Daniel Satobsky issued a religious opinion calling on Jewish youth and “all those who believe in the Torah” to take revenge on the Palestinians as hastily as possible. A week following the operation, a group of leading rabbis issued an unprecedented religious opinion permitting the Israeli army to bomb Palestinian civilian areas. The opinion is issued by the “Association of Rabbis of the Land of Israel” and states that Jewish religious law permits the bombing of Palestinian civilian residential areas if they are a source of attacks on Jewish residential areas. It reads, “when the residents of cities bordering settlements and Jewish centres fire shells at Jewish settlements with the aim of death and destruction, the Torah permits for shells to be fired on the sources of firing even if civilian residents are present there.”

The opinion adds that sometimes it is necessary to respond with shelling to sources of fire immediately, without granting the Palestinian public prior warning. A week ago, Rabbi Eliyahu Kinvinsky, the second most senior authority in the Orthodox religious current, issued a religious opinion prohibiting the employment of Arabs, particularly in religious schools. This religious opinion followed another that had been issued by Rabbi Lior prohibiting the employment of Arabs and the renting of residential apartments to them in Jewish neighbourhoods. In order to provide a climate that allows Jewish extremist organisations to continue attacking Palestinian citizens, Rabbi Israel Ariel, one of the most prominent rabbis in the West Bank settlement complex, recently issued a religious opinion prohibiting religious Jews involved in attacks against Palestinians to appear before Israeli civil courts. According to this opinion, they must instead demand to appear before Torah courts that rule by Jewish religious law.

Ha’aretz newspaper noted that what Rabbi Ariel was trying to achieve through this religious opinion has in fact already taken place. The first instance of such a court in Kfar Saba ordered the release of a young Jewish woman called Tsevia Teshrael who attacked a Palestinian farmer in the middle of the West Bank. And there are Jewish religious authorities that glorify killing and praise terrorists, such as Rabbi Yitzhaq Ginsburg, a top rabbi in Israel who published a book entitled Baruch the Hero in memoriam of Baruch Goldstein, who committed the Ibrahimi Mosque massacre in 1994 when he opened fire and killed 29 Palestinians as they were performing the dawn prayer in Hebron in the southern West Bank. Ginsburg considers his act “honourable and glorious.”

The danger of these religious opinions lies in the fact that the religious authorities issuing them have wide respect among religious Jewish youth. And while only 28 per cent of Israel’s population is religious, more than 50 per cent of Israelis define themselves as conservative and grant major significance to opinions issued by Jewish religious authorities. According to a study conducted by the Social Sciences Department of Bar Elon University, more than 90 per cent of those who identify as religious believe that if state laws and government orders are incongruous with the content of religious opinions issued by rabbis, they must overlook the former and act in accordance with the latter.

What grants the racist religious opinions a deeper and far-reaching impact is the fact that for the last decade followers of the Zionist religious current, who form nearly 10 per cent of the population, have been seeking to take control of the army and security institutions. They are doing so through volunteering for service in special combat units. The spokesperson’s office in the Israeli army says that although the percentage of followers of this current is low in the state’s demographic makeup, they form more than 50 per cent of the officers in the Israeli army and more than 60 per cent of its special unit commanders. According to an opinion poll of religious officers and soldiers supervised by the Interdisciplinary Centre Herzliya and published last year, more than 95 per cent of religious soldiers and officers say that they will execute orders from the elected government and their leaders in the army only if they are in harmony with the religious opinions issued by leading rabbis and religious authorities.

Wasil Taha, Arab Knesset member from the Tajammu Party led by Azmi Bishara, says that these religious opinions lead to the committal of crimes. He mentions religious opinions issued by a number of rabbis in mid-1995 that led to the assassination of former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin at that time. “If that’s what happens when religious opinions urge attacks against Jewish leaders such as Rabin, what will the situation be like when they urge attacks against Palestinian leaders and the Palestinian public?” he asks. “We, as Arab leaders, have begun to feel a lack of security following this flood of religious opinions, and we realise that the matter requires a great deal of caution in our movements as we are certain that there are those who seek to implement these opinions,” he told Al-Ahram Weekly.

Taha dismisses those who ask about the role of the government and Israeli political cadre in confronting these extremist religious opinions. “The ministers in the Israeli government and the Knesset members compete to incite against the Palestinian public and don’t hesitate to threaten expulsion of the Palestinians who live on their land in Israel and carry Israeli citizenship outside of Israel’s borders, just as former deputy premier Avigdor Lieberman and representative Evi Etam did,” Taha said. He notes that Palestinian citizens within Israel have begun to take extreme precautionary measures since the issue of these religious opinions, including security measures around mosques and public institutions and informing officials of public demonstrations so that members of Jewish terrorist organisations can be prevented from attacking participants. Taha holds that the sectors of the Palestinian population most likely to be harmed by these religious opinions are those living in the various cities populated by both Jews and Palestinians, such as Haifa, Jaffa, Lod, Ramleh and Jerusalem.

Palestinian writer and researcher Abdul-Hakim Mufid, from the city Um Fahem, holds that the religious opinions of rabbis have gained major significance due to the harmony between official rhetoric and that of the rabbis. Mufid notes that official Israeli establishments have not tried to confront the “fascist” rhetoric expressed in these religious opinions even though they are capable of doing so. “Most of the rabbis who issue tyrannical religious opinions are official employees in state institutions and receive salaries from them. And the state has not held these rabbis accountable or sought to prohibit the issue of such opinions,” he told the Weekly.

Mufid points out that when the official political institution is in a crisis, the Zionist consensus behind these religious opinions grows more intense, and offers as an example the religious opinions relied upon by Rabbi Meir Kahane in the early 1980s to justify his call to forcefully expel the Palestinians. Mufid adds that Israel in practice encourages all those who kill Palestinians, and points to the way that the Israeli government dealt with the recommendations of the Orr Commission that investigated the Israeli police’s killing of 13 Palestinians with Israeli citizenship in October of 2000. The government closed the file even though the commission confirmed that the police had acted aggressively towards the Palestinian citizens. Mufid suggests that what makes the racist rhetoric the rabbis insist upon influential is the silence of leftist and liberal voices, and the lack of any direct mobilisation against it.

* This is the title given to this article by the blog poster, an article by Saleh Al-Naami, originally titled “Genocide Announced.”

E Vero's picture

thanks for your thoughts, Laz

I feel better having read them. I like the "jewish mother" option the best. And I also like the idea of a mental hospital for the religiously insane. Or we could use the regular ones. Or we could use prisons -- aren't limitations on free speech all about curtailing incitement to violence? What else is this speech.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I'd like to pick your (and anyone else out there who is reading - Kate, Juan?) brain about the 7/7 London bombings. I am searching for the very best published book on these attacks. (I can't easily use a dvd or websites, because they appear less credible to my audience.) I've been working very hard on the jewish-mother approach for years, and am about to expand my arsenal to include the 7/7 attacks, the Big H, and a few other gems.

Take care,
E

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naaaaayh!

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