The Last Shout

dicktater's picture

Will it be?

The Last Shout
By Michael James in Germany
11-29-8
http://rense.com/general84/last.htm

It came to me as something of a surprise to learn that the German authorities and their Zionist puppet masters allowed me to remain online until Monday, December 1. So much so, that I could not resist writing one final article, one final shout aimed at the Zionist-Bolshevik takeover of the world we, as children of my generation, once knew as fertile soil for dissent and freedom.

America has just elected an avowed Marxist, aligned with the principles of British Fabianism, to be their president for at least the next four years. McCain would have been no different; for the Zionists and the State of Israel, who control America, stacked their cards to ensure for themselves a satisfactory outcome either way.

We in the European Soviet Union have become accustomed to the gradualism of a Jewish-Freemasonic dominated socialist bureaucracy that stifles freedom of speech and imprisons truth tellers as a matter of course under various strictures aimed at those brave enough to challenge historical orthodoxy and the Zionist manipulation of the usurious banking and financial system. On account of our weakness and cowardice to resist the encroachments upon our liberties, we are now easy prey for the Satanic elites who govern us by decree from Brussels.

At a whim, they haul us before their judicial synagogues in the same fashion as the Spanish Inquisition. No jury. No admissible defence. No escape from Gulag Europa. Case closed.

Now Americans must suffer the same plight. The corporate fascist enabling laws, most of which took shape under executive orders issued by the Clinton and Bush administrations, are now the purloin of the international socialist Obama government. It is my suspicion that the CFR and the Bilderberg cliques have determined that Obama will be a two-term president; and under his auspices Americans will be left disarmed, without any freedom of speech and devoid of the civil liberties they enjoyed prior to the treasonous Bush junta.

It is hardly a surprise to me that Obama has chosen former Clinton insiders, Zionist communitarians, treacherous Israeli dual-citizens and "Common Purpose" advocates as his main advisors. It was a done deal months before his (s)election. Once again, Americans have foolishly allowed themselves to be ensnared by the serpentine hypnotic trance of the City of London and its Zionist overlords.

The new American president may well be the "Black Pope" of which Nostradamus spoke, for the aforesaid recognised no higher authority than the Father of Rome; and America has, by its own volition and servitude to the parasitic Zionist entity, inherited every aspect of the empire that never died but was torn apart by civil war and internal strife. This curse has now been passed to the United States, which will soon experience nothing but disunity, repression, martial law, secession and massive suffering on a scale far surpassing that of the Great Depression.

I am simply an ordinary Englishman living in Germany under the shadow of a plastic Zionist dictatorship and the prospect of arrest and imprisonment due to the opinions I have published over the past few years. Yet I care deeply for my fellow ancestral Europeans in America, for they were always our last hope: comprising the great Alamo of resistance against global Jewish-Zionist tyranny and its much-heralded communist Noahide laws for the Goyim.

Now the Alamo has fallen, and with it nary a chance that the world can be truly free again.

And so the burden of responsibility for the future of our children and our grandchildren lies upon the shoulders of brave individuals in place of steadfast, free and independent nation states. You know who you are, and the decision to do the right thing is yours and yours alone. Nobody will help you. Like me, you're a lone wolf pining for freedom. Look to no leaders, for there are none; and those who pose as such are merely tools of the state.

These are the days of which the great prophets and seers of all religions spoke. These are not the End of Times, but the beginning of a leaderless resistance: the turning of the tide.

In the early hours of Monday morning, the parasitic Zionists will cut me off from the rest of the world by word and mouth, and I must trust that my letters pass untrammelled through the hands of the German Zionist police state, which has unerringly and successfully connived at depriving me of my income.

But I shall continue to fight to the bitter end, for this is my Alamo. They cannot and will not ever break my spirit. I shall never accept defeat, go down on my knees and lick the boots of the financial and political Master Race. I am, and shall always remain, a defiantly freeborn Englishman.

I refuse to be a slave to those who have torn our world asunder and who have despoiled our culture, our values and our noble heritage with their insane decadence and sneering disrespect.

And you? Will you go gently into the night?

It's your shout.
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Mike James, an
Englishman, is a former freelance journalist resident in Germany since 1992 with additional long-haul stays in East Africa, Poland and Switzerland.

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casseia's picture

This is Michael "I like the word 'hook-nosed'" James

who will be offline because he can no longer afford internet access. In the absence of more evidence that would show that he has been directly deprived of income by the "Zionist/Bilderberger/CFR/Avowed Marxist" world overlords, I'm unimpressed.

I really don't care to read anything more about this guy on this site. The last time he came up, it was in regard to the arrest of (blanking on first name) Toben and a number of us remarked at how interesting it is that an Australian can be arrested at Heathrow on behalf of the German government and yet someone like James, who foams at the mouth with crap about noses, Satan, Nostradamus, and Obama's "avowed Marxism" (I *wish* -- that would at least constitute some actual CHANGE) can live undisturbed in Germany itself. Perhaps because he's controlled opposition -- or in this case, controlled nutjobbery?

dicktater's picture

Please clarify

"I really don't care to read anything more about this guy on this site."

Does this mean "DO NOT POST ANYTHING AT ALL IN REGARD TO MICHAEL JAMES ON THIS SITE!"?

Or does it mean that you will no longer read anything in regard to Michael James?

If the former, perhaps you should create a list of sites, groups, individuals, etc. that are considered by you to be verbotten here. There may be quite a few though, if you start fishing here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=%22Michael+Jame...

However, there seems to be room on the right side, if you're of a mind.

Would that include sites that do allow discussion and republish his articles, too (see above)?

If it means the latter, uh, OK. Then don't.

I find it odd that someone who might be controlled oposition would be denied access to an outlet where such could possibly be of most effect. I don't think that James has lived in Germany undisturbed. I fould it curious that he could address the issue of the u-no-wut-ocaust in a way that seemd to stymie German prosecutors who were disturbing him. I believe, though i'm not positive, that I first read about this here:

http://gnosticliberationfront.com/game_over.htm

" Obama's "avowed Marxism" (I *wish* -- that would at least constitute some actual CHANGE)"

Careful with yer wishes. You might just get something like what you wish for.

"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
~~ attributed to Senator Everett Dirksen

casseia's picture

It means what I said...

My personal preference is that people do not post additional material BY Michael James here -- I don't want to read it, and I don't want its presence here to be construed as endorsement. I think the guy makes serious Holocaust revisionists look bad -- crazy, hateful -- and I think that he is tolerated in Germany precisely for that reason. Also, the way this article is framed is completely misleading -- as far as I can see, there is no "crackdown" on James; he simply can't afford internet access anymore.

We haven't done content-based censorship at WTCD so far and I don't really want to start. However, as far as I'm concerned, material about James is not welcome, and at the very least, rather than just reposting his material you should add some commentary of your own so we know why you think it is worthy of our consideration.

gretavo's picture

frankly...

I don't think we need to make this an issue of censorship. I would say a couple of things about this. Dicktater would do better to give some kind of intro to place his desire to repost this article in some context. Casseia could maybe provide a link to wherever Michael James expresses his approval for the term "hooknose" in reference to Jews.

As for the article itself it's really pretty crappy--James is like an even more over the top Alex Jones. All this CFR Bilderberg Black Pope Obama the Marxist crap is just that--crap. If James is not a Zionist agent himself then he may as well get on the payroll because he does a great job for them and it does seem like maybe he could use the cash.

So I'm left wondering, Dicktater, if you think James is on to something with his Obamarx, etc. spiel. See, we do like provocative here, but we don't like disinfo. And this Michael James feller sure is blurring that line. If and when we post stuff that does that we absolutely have a responsibility to post it in a manner that does not leave open the possibility of the site being tainted by the appearance of carelessly spreading disinfo.

casseia's picture

It came up here several weeks ago

when Frederick Toben was detained. Here's part of what James wrote:

The fact that the Jewish population exploded by an incredible 1.3 million between 1937 and 1947 is something willingly admitted by the Jewish Bureau of Statistics and the Red Cross, but cannily overlooked by hooked-nosed historians with their beady snouts in the trough of high finance. Not even Churchill, a half-Jew, mentioned this so-called "atrocious crime" against his own people.

Guess why? It never happened. The fact is, if you were a Jew during the Second World War (which was only an extension of the first world war in which International World Jewry declared "Germany Must Perish!"), you probably never had it so good. Certainly you were not amongst the 60 million European Christians who slaughtered themselves in an intractable bloodbath to fatten out your investments war dividends on Wall Street.

The guy is a fucking halfwit. This kind of crap gives a reasonable basis for condemning Holocaust "denial" because in his case that's just what it is -- stubborn ideological denial of the suffering of others.

Here's the rest of the article
http://www.rense.com/general83/extra.htm

It includes one other use of "hook-nosed" as well as this lucid analysis (sic):

The Jews are playing twisted chess with us. We can play three- dimensional chess. They get lost somewhere in the forth dimension and blame it on our ignorance. Funny thing is, they can't play fifth-dimensional chess. I can. They can't. In anger, they tip the table. They're not as smart as they think.

dicktater's picture

on James

"So I'm left wondering, Dicktater, if you think James is on to something with his Obamarx, etc. spiel. See, we do like provocative here, but we don't like disinfo. And this Michael James feller sure is blurring that line. If and when we post stuff that does that we absolutely have a responsibility to post it in a manner that does not leave open the possibility of the site being tainted by the appearance of carelessly spreading disinfo."

As far as Obama is concerned, just about everything he has done so far gives me the willies. It's really is looking like the only real CHANGE taking place is in his personage occupying the oval office. All the while, the rest of the administration is nothing more than the same criminal cabal that has been around for fucking forever playing musical chairs, running the same three-card monte games. Where it will lead, who the fuck knows. But, it reaks of fascism from where I sit.

Just who the fuck is Barak H. Obama anyway? He seems to have also had other names during his rather mysterious life.

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Written by the author of the legendary 1992 expose of Bush the elder, this book works from a New Deal point of view. Obama is exposed as a foundation operative and agent of Wall Street finance capital, controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, and Goldman Sachs. Obama's mother was an official of the Ford Foundation, the World Bank, and US AID. By all indications, Obama was identified for future political use by Brzezinski at Columbia in 1981-1983, during Obama's secret lost years. Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund, and the Annenberg Foundation. A community organizer is a poverty pimp, a cynical opportunist who uses suffering people as a political commodity. The foundation strategy is divide and conquer, pitting blacks and against whites against Hispanics against Asians - to prevent any challenge to Wall Street. Racist provocateurs like Wright and Pfleger, along with Weatherman terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn - Obama's best friends - are cast in this mold. Rezko, Auchi, and Al-Sammarae represent the cesspool of Chicago graft and corruption in which Obama cavorts. Schooled in Nietzsche and Fanon, Obama qualifies as a postmodern fascist. An Obama administration would strive for brutal economic sacrifice and austerity to finance Wall Street bailouts, and for imperialist confrontation with Russia and China.

Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography (Kindle Edition)
by Webster Griffin Tarpley
http://www.amazon.com/Barack-H-Obama-Unauthorized-Biography/dp/B001M5TTV...

Why is there even an issue over his birth. If he was born in Hawaii and there is proof that only he could authorize to be released, why hasn't he done so? When government serpents, whose official duty includes ensuring that candidates meet qualifications for the office sought, refer to legitimate questions about Obama's being qualified with the hackneyed "conspiracy theories" squawk, I feel like somebody might really be on to something.

POLARIK'S FINAL REPORT: OBAMA'S 'BORN' CONSPIRACY - Forged Images, Phony Photos, and Felony Fraud
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/obama_government/news...

Mr. Obama: Don't Miss Next Week's Chicago Tribune
http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2008-11-28.htm

The American People Demand to Know: WHO SENT YOU???
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/obama_government/news...

Why is it that so many of our representatives, whose only legitimate duty is to protect and defend our Rights, seem to be on the hyperspace, warp-drive track to destroying them. I have seen now that there is constitutional question regarding Clinton's eligibility for the office of SOS.

Is Clinton barred from State job?
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/is_clinton_barred_f...

I hope that there is something to this because I dislike the baggage she carries. And, I dislike her husband Bill, too. Too much makes it look like the supreme Court monkees are going to be involved again in a really big way. It tastes like stale fried chicken from 2000, only different. It's theatre gone from bad to worse.

The painting of Obama as some kind of new FDR makes me wretch. FDR confiscated gold. He played a part in keeping us involved in the perpetual manufactured wars of Europe. I can see the handwriting on the wall for gun and gold confiscation here as some of the the unpopular measures of which Biden spoke. I worry that an imploding economy will give Obama the ability to employ legions of new government goons. I see hate speech legislation sailing through CONgress in another attack on our Right to freedom of speech, which does not include a responsibility to ensure that someone's feelings aren't hurt. With the exception of atheism, the Right to freedom of religious choice will be further attacked. Freedom of the press will be under assault as the mainstream media loses further control of its propaganda machine. The indications of more, larger, protracted wars on the other side of the globe under an Obama admin are as glaringly obvious as spray paint vandalism on a blank wall. I cannot see Obama encouraging his cronies in CONgress to repeal the obnoxious legislation from which they appear to derive any form of legitimacy to act unconstitutionally because it's power that they worship and I can't see how he is any fucking different.

I would think that the lessons from 2000 forward would cause all of us to at least sleep with one eye open and one hand on the grip of something deadly. I don't know anything about Black Popes but, to deny that the CFR and Bilderberg wield significant influence in government and not to our benefit is lunacy.

As far as James being a Zionist agent, hell if I know. Do you know for sure? Are you aware of any others whose opinion you respect having expressed similar suspicions? Since he seems to be relatively unknown here until recently, wouldn't others, perhaps Ingrid Zundel or Brother Nathanael Kapner possibly have already raised the red flag? I'm not defending the guy. I'm just curious about him. I'm sick of political correctness. And, I get tired of people wanting to shut the door to discourse, regardless of the issue, because of gut feelings or that I am somehow supposed to know all of the verbotten persons, sites, topics, keywords what have you that others have found objectionable. This happens all too often for me when just trying to discuss the importance of understanding the lies of 9/11 with people who really are smart enough to see through the lies just refuse to open their eyes.

Toben being detained in England reminded me of the first James article that I read. I'm still curious why James hasn't received similar treatment by German prosecutors. I'm curious in the same way that I am when I hear of people in any part of the freedom/liberty movement not being run over by the federal freight train when others are still getting crushed. It is still here:

http://gnosticliberationfront.com/game_over.htm

Despite his release in England, Toben is still a hunted man. Ted Pike has an interesting take on where the grotesquely overly-aggressive German prosecutors will likely try and reach in the future. Read it here and take from it what you will:

"Andreas Grossman, the Mannheim prosecutor who put Toben's reductionist friends, Ernst Zundel and Germar Rudolph, in prison says, "England will not extradite him, but we will continue to attempt to have him arrested in other countries." (Associated Press, "Germany Pursues Arrest of Well-known Holocaust Denier Set Free by UK Court," 24/11/2008)"

"Since Germany also attempted to deport Toben for "anti-Semitism," it is likely Germany might also demand extradition of those who criticize matters Jewish.

Could Germany Come for You?"

http://www.rense.com/general84/zin.htm

Maybe there's something wrong with me but, I just don't like thought police.

When the Jews first came for ....
By Michael James in Germany
http://gnosticliberationfront.com/when_the_jews_first_came_for.htm

"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
~~ attributed to Senator Everett Dirksen

gretavo's picture

so you don't think it's a problem

that the guy refers to Jews as hooknosed and beady snouted?

this is not about not hurting people's feelings per se. this is about making legitimate issues look bad by association with stupid shit. if you can't see the problem with that and you think that it's all about controlling what you think then I suggest you find another place to think because while there is no list of things verboten here there is certainly an expectation that people will not post things that play right into the hands of those they purport to oppose.

casseia's picture

The issue here is not Frederick Toben and not Obama

but Michael James. The reason I infer for James not having been prosecuted by the German government is that he has untreated psychiatric problems. Now, prior to getting all PC (ironically) about mental illness/difference, consider the following kind of thing that he mixes in with his "critique" of the Holocaust narrative:

http://gnosticliberationfront.com/jews_run_scared_of_mike_james.htm

If they really want to know just how crazy I am, I must also fess-up to a midlife crisis. I’m a divorced 48-year-old desperately in love with the daughter I never had. Her name is "Billie". I met a young lady recently who told me she wouldn’t mind cooperating with me in an intimate manner to bring forth “Billie”, but now I have cold feet. I would really love to meet “Billie” one day and teach her everything I know, and learn much more from her besides. I yearn for this unborn daughter of mine but I have serious doubts about her prospective mother, and I wouldn’t want her to grow up in the European Union of Soviet Zionist States.

From the same essay:

Do you know what they were? Paxil (Paroxetine). Never heard of this garbage ever before in my life. I was online for 24-hours-straight trying to figure out what was going on inside of my head. I did not know who the hell the I was. I did not even know I had started to drink again. They put me on this pharmaceutical trip, and I went wheeling from one bar to another and my guess is I drank the whole of Bad Homburg dry.

I have no real, quality spectacles anymore. I smashed them by falling over simply because some girl said, “Hi, Mikey.” I just span around and my face hit the concrete. I had been off the booze for three days and eventually flushed those tablets down the toilet after four weeks. I can’t even remember whether this “Hi, Mikey” happened to me here in Burgholzhausen, Bad Homburg, Switzerland, Berlin or even in Shanghai City. Could have been anywhere. Really. Name that planet.

I purchased two pairs of replacement spectacles at Woolworths, and I have to keep swapping them out because I get a headache after each shift. I can neither read nor write for more than ten minutes without losing vision. I’ve always had migraines, but now they’re worse than ever before. I now have a tremor in my right hand and it shows no sign of abating. That Paxil was designed to destroy my brain cells.

Now, it's not like someone with chronic depression can't be an astute historian, political scientist, writer, yadda yadda yadda -- because someone like that certainly CAN be, but not while untreated depression, especially in combination with alcoholism, is running his/her life. Treatment doesn't have to be pharmaceutical, although, as I've mentioned here before, I personally find an SSRI (in my case Zoloft) to be not a Bilderberger/Soviet/Jewish tool of brain cell destruction, but a helpful tool in managing my own brain chemistry. James seems to be one of those people who not only reserves the right to be crazy and self-destructive, but wants to be very public about it, in a manner that can't help but discredit his already-unpopular political views.

I just can't see any possible benefit in re-posting the work of this guy while he's busy being an unapologetic public nutjob.

gretavo's picture

"I just don't like thought police."

Neither do I. Nor do I like racist and insane people, or those who act like them, or those who pretend to think it's a matter of "thought policing" to expect that contributors to a blog site use a modicum of good judgement when posting. Since you clearly have a problem with this, I have suspended your account. Sorry it had to come to this but we're obviously not on the same page.

E Vero's picture

Dickater

Hi G,
Wow, look what happens when I go away for a few days - D got the boot.

Cannot D get a warning? LT got a warning when he actually _wrote_ (not merely posted someone else's) incendiary remarks.

Is he gone for good? If so, then that's too bad, because I think he posted a lot of helpful stuff, too.

E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

casseia's picture

Hey E,

We had a kind of ongoing dialog with dtater and he seemed unwilling to consider our concerns -- and was in fact rather derisive with the "thought police" business. This didn't just happen out of the blue. I think it takes a pretty persistent unresponsiveness to get gret to this point.

Moreover -- and this is addressed to everyone who posts here -- you are responsible for what you post EVEN or maybe ESPECIALLY if it is a re-post. That doesn't mean controversial material is off-limits -- it means it needs to be thoughtfully framed by a member of OUR community here and potentially offensive aspects considered and weighed against material that is thought-provoking and worth considering. Think of it as "idea hygiene." Just as you wouldn't sneeze into someone's face, it's pretty rude to thoughtlessly re-broadcast memes without bothering to consider whether they might be disinfo. If there's value in something controversial, then frame it that way and point it out.

(And I know that I established to my own satisfaction that there is little to nothing of value in the work of James -- nor did dtater make any argument that there was when challenged. Instead, he trotted out the "thought police" cop-out. No pun intended.)

E Vero's picture

yes and no

Hi Cass,
I can understand where you are coming from -- I recall reading James's stuff back when he was posted the last time. The business about "Billie" and his drunken/prescription pill wanderings are indeed very odd. And James's "hook-nose" statement is truly awful. And it does appear that D simply did not respond when you and Gret asked him to respond about that "hook-nose" comment.

But I can also understand where D is coming from. Yes, he should have presented this article with some context first. But as far as I can see, D did go back and try to say what he saw that _was_ valuable in this current James's piece - the part about Obama. D did state that he is pretty confident that James is not a disinfo agent, too. And I didn't think he was necessarily calling you guys "thought police," - it came up in context of Tobin. Maybe I should look at that part again.

For me, it looks like the heart of the problem here is that D just refused to disavow James's other inflammatory writings in presenting what he thought was valuable about this one piece he just posted. That is an interesting question - can we focus on one thing someone writes independent of their entire body of work? Do we have to be responsible for everything else someone writes? So if someone does a lot of good stuff but has one bad thing, we cannot refer to the good stuff? Sometimes we won't know that there is anything bad out there. In this case, D probably knew about James - and you reminded him anyway, so if didn't remember initially, he soon did.

I guess what bothers me is that D was dropped without a warning that the matter was serious enough for him to be dropped. Maybe he got busy with a fire and couldn't get back to you right away (after initially posting that big explanation about Obama)? Is there any appeal process?

I recall that this happened to me once when I was citing something that Eric Hufschmidt said. I would need a month off work dedicated solely to reading EH's site in order to know everything he wrote there, plus I'd have to read all his books. Maybe if I'd said, "Hey, I know this guy is a little wacky, but this part over here that he says about 'issue X' makes sense." Is that what you're looking for?

I'm just trying to sort things out. Thanks for listening.

E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

gretavo's picture

it wasn't just this one thing

I have been asking people for a while to try to be more responsible about what they post here. We have all been at this long enough to know that when you post something by someone you should know who that person is and where they are coming from and if necessary issue a disclaimer when you post it. If you fail to do this for whatever reason and people call you out on it you should do what most normal people would do and say "whoa I didn't realize what a kook this person is, thanks for pointing that out--I can see why we shhould be careful" and not sarcastically go on about being thought policed. The same thing happened when Killtown claimed that we were thought policing for not welcoming no-planes hit the towers nonsense here. Well if that is thought policing then call me officer gret because i don't intend to stop doing it. And that goes for those who advocate violence or provide opportunities for the site to be smeared by acting as if someone like Michael James deserves to have his rants taken at face value.

E Vero's picture

I've really been used to

I've really been used to thinking of Dtater as one of "us" on the side of truth, on our little "island," so I'm having a hard time putting him into this box of someone who'd support "disinfo agents, etc." Is there no way for him to now make amends?

E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

gulu's picture

Is there a re-education camp we can send dictater?

I like a lot of what dictater posts but I can see where Gret has a point.No need to post bigoted stuff here without some explanation for the need or to call out were the writer would be wrong.Many people,myself included,cut our 9/11 teeth on Hufshmid but I wouldnt reference him now unless he came out with something totally new and revealing about 9/11.I hope tater promises to be good and rejoins the blogs.This small room is even smaller whithout him.

gretavo's picture

look folks, it's not the end of the world nor the end of dtater

for all we know he is still posting as one of the rest of us (cue creepy music) or will be back under a new name. i don't really have a problem with either scenario and it's not like i know who he is in real life. it's just that the dicktater persona, however prolific he was and however much he was considered part of the wtcd community, was being problematic. anyone who feels like i was a jerk to do this has every right to feel that way. all i would say is try to understand that it's not easy making these decisions and if you want to know just how hard it is to maintain a useful and productive forum, try it! ultimately this site is as much about quality information as it is about community. focusing too much on valuing every member of the community as friends detracts from quality control--anyone who has tried to work in an activist groups probably knows how that feeling of unity and camraderie is exploited as a method of control--unwise compromises are sold as ways to "keep the peace". unfortunately we can choose to be effective activists or really nice and forgiving people, but we can't choose both. if i have misjudged or treated dicktater unfairly that is my problem--9/11 truth will march on and so will dicktater, on any number of other sites.