Just Another Day in the SLC of Ziostan

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Just Another Day in the SLC of Ziostan


The Wall of Hate (Excellent Video!)


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E Vero's picture

Good vids, esp the last one

Thanks for posting these, Lazlo.
E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

Lazlo Toth's picture

Mr. Baraka Hussayn Obama, TEAR DOWN THIS GOD-DAMNED FUCKING WALL

Mr. Baraka Hussayn Obama, TEAR DOWN THIS GOD-DAMNED FUCKING WALL!!!

It is just another Zionist con game and illusion, this idea that these folks must never be threatened with the language of historical truth and historical reality, and the promises of international retribution and violence; that such language only strengthens their sicko cause; that anti-Khazarism only gives them more fuel to justify their demonic works of evil, causing them to coagulate and further unite against the non-Zionist global community. The fear of G-d needs to be re-installed in their hearts, and the rage of G-d against the crimes of Zionism is expressed in the anger of the hearts of the enlightened and the compassionate. The completely deluded Jewish community is very proud of its stance for justice in the American civil rights movement, yet is somehow completely blind to their abject and completely disgusting hypocrisy regarding their support for the systematic genocide of, and assault against, an entire race of people – the (actually) Semitic Arabs. These anti-Semite “Pseudojudeans,” to use Liberal White Boy’s excellently coined term, need to wake the fuck up to the fact that the entire globe is now completely cognizant of the con-job that they have been running now for nearly a century. The jig is up. [Laz, will you can the threats of violence whether or not they are intended as figures of speech? -- c455] The three-card Monty game is now over, and they need to adjust to the New Reality, or basically lose everything, as in EVERYTHING. And I say this as a friend. It is something called “tough love.”

Realistic threats of annihilation and complete historical exposure have a wonderful effect upon the concentration of the mind with regards to getting your shit together for survival purposes. Israel—the Nazi terror state of our time—needs to realize that the whole world is watching their every fucking move with blood boiling anger, rage, and molten disgust (perhaps they have never heard of YouTube or the Ted Stevens Memorial internet tubes). As I mentioned at the end of “Wired for Terror,” Part One, way back in August of 2007 – just one more false flag op against America, and son, you are going to go down so fucking fast and so fucking hard that your head will be spinning faster than the CERN atomic accelerator. [Threatening anyone with a holocaust is fucked up. -- c455] There is still a tiny window of opportunity for survival though, and if their intelligence is as highly developed as their media claims it is, they will now quickly remove their heads from their arrogant anal canals and begin to walk the path of morality and truth, as was continually and highly recommended by the Prophets of their adopted scriptures. The Prophet Isaiah was not an angry anti-Semite. He was an historian warning his people on behalf of the Great Spirit – He who tortures shall also one day be tortured as well. Circumcise your ears and your hearts.

[Laz, I have great respect and appreciation for your work, but the continuing threats of violence when you have specifically been asked to refrain is a problem. -- c455]

casseia's picture

Khazars...

as far as I'm concerned, have as much right to be Jews as anyone. What NO ONE has is the right to sweep into a country, seize and ethnically cleanse it. That would be equally true if the people who did it were in fact the genetic legacy of common ancestors -- ie, if the people you identify as Khazar converts were actually Semites who had been off doing the disapora thing for 2000 years.

Lazlo Toth's picture

C-455 (if that is your real name), regarding threats of violence

Casseia, I don’t need to, and am not threatening anyone with violence. I am warning against it. We have been living in—as far as recorded (i.e. written) history is concerned—a 5,000 year continuum of violence. Gandhi was a complete, one time only, exception to the rule. I only wish that you would ask the Israeli-Nazis to can their 78 years of continuous and ACTUAL violence, racist hatred, and unpunished genocide against the real Semitic peoples of the Near and Middle East. You should write to Benjamin Netanyahu and ask him to stop the genocide. You should get mad at him for viciously butchering 3,000 New Yorkers on 9/11 and laughing about it afterwards. Don’t get mad at me. I’m just a messenger (and a piano player). You seem to be very concerned with mere words, but seem not so very concerned with the actual unfolding, REAL-WORLD events of history. If you lived in Gaza for the past 60 years instead of Granola Bar Oregon, you would be singing a whole different tune, believe me. People don’t seem to react to anything unless it affects them directly, up close and personal. Didn’t you see the face of that little Palestinian child as those unter-mensch IDF fucks demolished his home and burned his father’s olive grove down? My 24/7/365 anger and absolute grief about this situation is the result of empathy and compassion. It is perhaps easy for you to not get angry, to be all intellectually cool, “non-violent,” and detached. None of this directly affects you or your family in the least bit (at least not now). I happen to have friends and relatives who live in downtown Tehran. They are living in the fucking center of an Israeli nuke target. Put yourself in their shoes for just one moment. Imagine what it must be like to go to sleep in Tehran every night knowing that the Zionazis want to waste your country for absolutely no reason at all. As you said, threatening anyone with a “holocaust” is fucked up, but what is even more fucked up is actually doing a “holocaust,” as it is being done before your very eyes in the Middle East by the Eastern European descendents of the Khazarian tribes. I am not threatening the Zionist state of “Israel” with a holocaust. I am warning them, as is Vladimir Putin (in a VERY SERIOUS WAY), that if they continue down the path they walk on, there will be, as the sun rises regularly every day, a REAL Holocaust visited upon IsraHell. Was the Prophet Jeremiah a “Jew hater” because he warned the Judeans that G-d would smite them mightily for their crimes and arrogance? He was sent as a “warner,” and they stoned him in the streets of Jerusalem for his warnings. I never said that the Khazars did not have the right to be “Jews.” I said that they did not have the “right” to violently seize the lands of the actual descendants of the Semitic tribes of the Middle East. Thank you for listening, and now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

casseia's picture

>crunch crunch<

"You seem to be very concerned with mere words, but seem not so very concerned with the actual unfolding, REAL-WORLD events of history. If you lived in Gaza for the past 60 years instead of Granola Bar Oregon, you would be singing a whole different tune, believe me."

That's just a big leap of illogic. If I thought you spouting a bunch of testosterone-poisoned crap at this site had any real chance of protecting anyone in Gaza or Tehran, *then* we would have this discussion.

kate of the kiosk's picture

uh, where's the threats of violence?

It is just another Zionist con game and illusion, this idea that these folks must never be threatened with the language of historical truth and historical reality, and the promises of international retribution and violence; that such language only strengthens their sicko cause; that anti-Khazarism only gives them more fuel to justify their demonic works of evil, causing them to coagulate and further unite against the non-Zionist global community. The fear of G-d needs to be re-installed in their hearts, and the rage of G-d against the crimes of Zionism is expressed in the anger of the hearts of the enlightened and the compassionate. The completely deluded Jewish community is very proud of its stance for justice in the American civil rights movement, yet is somehow completely blind to their abject and completely disgusting hypocrisy regarding their support for the systematic genocide of, and assault against, an entire race of people – the (actually) Semitic Arabs. These anti-Semite “Pseudojudeans,” to use Liberal White Boy’s excellently coined term, need to wake the fuck up to the fact that the entire globe is now completely cognizant of the con-job that they have been running now for nearly a century. The jig is up. [Laz, will you can the threats of violence whether or not they are intended as figures of speech? -- c455] The three-card Monty game is now over, and they need to adjust to the New Reality, or basically lose everything, as in EVERYTHING. And I say this as a friend. It is something called “tough love.”

kate of the kiosk's picture

excellent, yes, and why the fuck is that

The completely deluded Jewish community is very proud of its stance for justice in the American civil rights movement, yet is somehow completely blind to their abject and completely disgusting hypocrisy regarding their support for the systematic genocide of, and assault against, an entire race of people – the (actually) Semitic Arabs.

kate of the kiosk's picture

sorry, but as synchronicity would have it

as i have been reading this blog exchange today, i just concomitantly totally lost my best Jewish friends - an Isreali and her pro-Isreali husband. he was the one who was calling palestinians "pigs, swine, devils" etc. at a party in mixed company.  the email exchange was quite painful.

 

thanks for the bulldozers, Lazlo.

kate of the kiosk's picture

ah, would this be it?

Realistic threats of annihilation and complete historical exposure have a wonderful effect upon the concentration of the mind with regards to getting your shit together for survival purposes.

casseia's picture

Hi Kate and Laz

I removed two sentences from Laz's comment and replaced them with bolded remarks. Laz knows what I took out and I have a copy of it, so gretavo, who owns the site and bears the legal responsibility, can restore the post to its original form if he wishes.

Laz, you know gretavo *just asked you* to tone down the rhetoric. My opinion is that if your anger is at a level that makes it impossible for your to respect his request, you might want to take a break from posting for a few days.

Part of my concern stems from the fact that at the time I was reading the original post, we had four "guests" viewing the site -- guests who may not have had the background information to understand Laz's righteous anger but who would be quite capable of taking screen shots of some shit that looked really bad, imo.

gretavo's picture

the overheated rhetoric has to stop

I've been in contact with Casseia and am aware of what she removed from Lazlo's post. And I am happy that she removed it. It's striking to me that after asking nicely that we not use language that constitutes threats of violence, however veiled, Lazlo seems to have seen that as an invitation to up the ante.

Lazlo: I echo Cass and others' admiration for your historical work and indeed for your passion. That said I am going to ask you one last time to tone down that passion if and when it induces you to make inflammatory statements. Please do not lightly dismiss this request. We value your participation here but we can't be checking the site 24/7 for commentary that glorifies violence and force in a way that flies in the face of our desire for peace and understanding through the discussion of difficult truths.

To everyone else: I realize that different people see things differently and that one person's violent rant is another person's righteous sermon but please understand that in the end I am personally accountable for the content of this forum and while I absolutely hate "playing cop" there are certain lines that I simply cannot allow to be crossed and to have people tip toe up to them as if to test those lines is something I don't appreciate in a partner in struggle. This was never meant to be a militant web site and if that's what you're lookling for please look elsewhere. After my banning from 911blogger for simply discussing in a civil manner topics that they deemed off-limits Casseia and others reached out to support the need for a forum that encouraged free inquiry--not one that served as an outlet for anger, however justified. That gesture meant the world to me and to this day while Cass and I disagree on some things I have an innate trust of her judgement, not surprisingly all the more when it happens to coincide with my own.

I know that most of us here value the sense of community that has developed over time and I sincerely hope that the result of this most recent kerfuffle will be to bear out the strength of that community under trying circumstances. If instead the result is to cement disagreement on principles then as sad as it would be the best thing might be for folks to move on. That is what happened to me with 911Blogger and it was on the whole a good thing for all involved and for the movement generally. This need not happen in a spirit of enmity--we should be able as a society of fellows and equals to make grown up decisions about our activism.

One last time I ask that everyone please check as much of their anger, however righteous, at the door so that we might all rise above the spirit of hatred and destruction that we all profess to be against.

Lazlo Toth's picture

I’m sorry Gretavo and will be a good boy from now on.

I still do not retract any of my statements about ,or feelings of extreme disgust for, Israel’s plans to nuke several American cities to start up their “Final Solution to the Arab Problem.” And when I mentioned yesterday that I was emailing President Vladimir Putin to congratulate him on his setting up naval bases in Syria and Libya in order to send a firm message to the little rogue terror nation of Israel, I was not joking. Here is the link to his personal website in English if you would also like to contact him with your thoughts on 9/11 and other matters. He reads and writes English, and the website is in English.

http://premier.gov.ru/eng

Again, I do sincerely apologize for causing you grief, and swear to publicly (internet-wise) keep my passions in check for the good of WTCD. As my saintly wife is always telling me, “hate the sin, not the sinner.”

gretavo's picture

thanks Laz

As we've discussed before, one of the good things of community is that we can act as checks and balances for one another. Believe you me that I've been where you are in terms of anger and frustration and that I know how absurd it seems at times to feel that one owes anything in terms of moderation or deferrence to those who commit atrocities or enable them to be committed. But it's not about them, it's about us and whether we want to allow our souls to be dragged into the fire by and along with those who are already damned--not necessarily by god but by their own doing. It is a similar issue to that of the genuine suicide bomber (if they even exist) who thinks that their supreme sacrifice translates into as devastating a blow against their enemies as it does against their martyred self. It does not. Understandable as it is that a desperate situation makes a desperate act tempting to those who have literally nothing to lose, it cannot be stressed enough that true sacrifice involves NOT necessarilydoing the things that seem most natural and just to us at any given moment. Maybe we *are* foolish to think that a Gandhi like approach is in order at this point in "the game". I honestly don't know the answer to that but I do know that I will never cease to encourage those around me to err with me on the side of hope and peace. this doesn't mean silencing ourselves--not at all. it does mean though that sometimes we will need to choose our words carefully. i thank you for your understanding and I'm sorry that we even have to make this an issue but the way things are I really can't see this any other way. thanks again for all the wisdom and insight you've shared with us all here, and please do continue to share.

E Vero's picture

just to chime in

I know that there are people watching our site - hoping to get some truth or else hoping to attack us. In either case, we do well to mind our p's and q's, like Casseia said. I would hate to lose this site for some silly reason like them thinking that Lazlo was actually inciting violence. He's just stating a fact and that it will be well deserved. In the written medium, however, it is easy to misread that as incitement.

That said, I'm riled up, too. When I finally got my courage up, everything would pour out of my mouth, which was just too much for people. The groundwork must be laid first. I think I've learned to state the facts and let people draw their own conclusions. If they tell me to back off on 9/11, then I retreat and retrench, reconnecting on whatever it is we do agree on (the Palestinians, Rachel Corrie, the Fed, etc.). I figure that sooner or later, they'll be ready to know more, and I'd rather be known as the calm but consistent voice of the minority (whom they will then seek out) than to try to make all my points in one sitting and not rest until they agree with me. I've much to learn about persuasion - I'm certainly no salesperson - but I'm getting there.

The hard part is that WE are all pretty much familiar with the arguments, know each other mostly, and can assume that each other means well, etc. and want to move on toward action, but no one else reading the site will have that goodwill our statements can be used against us and/or the site and/or Gretavo who owns the site.

I hope this makes sense; I've got kids crawling all over me, and am having a hard time making my points coherent.

LT, I'm sorry to hear about your family and friends in Tehran.

E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

kate of the kiosk's picture

well said, E Vero

and, Dear Lazlo,  as much as i find your posts extremely informative and almost indispensible,  i shall, at this point in time, weigh in on the side of the edit judgments by Cass and Gret. they have, after all, come closer to putting their reputations on the line, with true names to view, having appeared on Kevin Barrett's show, etc. Dedicated RealTruther Gretavo stands out in front of Harvard almost every day, for Christ's sake, at lunch hour in plain site/sight! and even posts his true name on The Crimson from time to time.

Lazlo Toth, you are an enigma regarding your nym-identity, your reasons for which, explained in former posts, I will continue to respect, by all means. However, you do have the luxury of emoting  in a more "free-form" manner on your posts. 

thinking in the framework of the WTCD site running a campaign for truth, and the image that must at times almost awkwardyly accompany this campaign,  i was struck by a taped snip on tv, just minutes ago, regarding Obama's Rev Wright : "It's not God Bless America...it's God Damn America!" sure gave me pause.  even though we understand the emotion behind his fury, some may not and may thus miss out on the true salvation of  911 truth and justice.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

E Vero's picture

well said, Kate!

I didn't know that Cass & Gretavo have used their real names in connection with 9/11 truth...that does put a different spin on things. And you're right about G being front and center at Harvard every day. -E

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

gretavo's picture

very eloquent, EV!

I'm right there with you. I too have had to lear a lot about persuasion, about patience, and about peace--not just in the world but in my self. You all are a lifeline like no other and rest assured that we are doing the right thing and that just by trying our best we win--every day.

E Vero's picture

I wrote to Putin!

Here's what I wrote:
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Dear Mr Putin,
Thank you for providing this forum to write to you. It is a refreshing change from how business is conducted in these United States.

I'm a US citizen, but I'm writing to you as one citizen of the world to another: Please help humanity by doing what you can to reveal the truth about this nonsensical war on terror (more like 'war of terror') as well as its phony roots in the US government's account of the events of Sept 11, 2001.

I'm not sure what concrete steps you can take but I'd like to tell you that a lot of us are looking to you for leadership. You did a terrific job quelling that farcical Georgian attack. You have helped your country purge itself of both oligarchs and central banks, no small feat. You appear to be the last bulwark against the world hegemony of the fascist US/UK/Israel alliance.

We who are about to die, salute you! (Please check out wtcdemolition.com.)

Respectfully,
E Vero

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

gretavo's picture

ha! thanks for the plug, EV!

and thanks to all yall for understanding that we're not just being dainty with regard the tone on the site...

Lazlo Toth's picture

And a positive healing conversation arose from the ashes...

Sometimes little family arguments and crises can be blessings in disguise, and in this case, with the discussion that has ensued here, we are all just a bit more enlightened. I know I have benefited from this. I am not a hater, nor by nature, even an angry person, and in this regard, I will say that discovering the truth about 9/11 and the political/historical context it is situated in, basically ruined my happy, peaceful, artistically and intellectually creative life. Once I decide to sacrifice myself to a worthy cause, however, I will not give up until the job is done.

Although I hate “hating” and it is painful to be consumed with anger (even the righteous kind), I cannot stand people getting away with murder, thievery and oppression, and then just coming back to the scene of the crime to arrogantly laugh in the faces of the victims. People like Douglas Feith and William Kristol, who have that smirky little look on their demonic faces all the time, with the “we know that you know that we did it, but you can’t touch us,” shit just make me absolutely sick. I really hate bullies (thus my EXTREME dislike for the IDF), and remember when I was in Junior High watching this one kid just bully other kids for a whole year until I just had it with him (I have a very long fuse). One day I just said to myself that this kid had to stop his constant shit, and if no one was going to take him on, I would. I walked over to the baseball diamond, grabbed a metal bat, chased him down, and broke both his fucking legs. This was actually the only incidence of violence I have ever been involved with, but as I broke his legs with the bat, I gave him a little lecture as to why I was doing this. The teachers actually supported me. They all thought he was a little prick too. He never bullied anyone again, and if he tried to retaliate against me, I had a whole armada of students behind me ready to go against him and his little crew any time they wanted to push it. They never did. Unfortunately, there are belligerent people out there who just refuse to listen to words of diplomacy and negotiation, and for them, the language of the stick is the only thing they seem to understand.

I thank you all for being so understanding with me lately. I feel like I am suffering some kind of battle fatigue or post-traumatic stress syndrome. As I mentioned, I have now completed my research journey into the history of Zionist terrorism in British Mandate Palestine, and must tell you that when I study history, I don’t just intellectually read about it on the printed page, I actually enter into this kind of empathetic time machine-like perception of the events I am studying. I can feel the history I am studying. I am not just reading about the Irgun terrorists kidnapping two British sergeants and hanging them in a warehouse. I am IN the warehouse watching it happen, and hearing these two young men plead for mercy. I am not just reading the speech printed on a page, I am sitting among the British members of parliament hearing the angry words of Churchill over the Zionist murder of his dearest friend Lord Moyne, and suggesting that perhaps it is high time that His Majesty’s Government CANCEL the entire Zionist national project. I am in the gallery standing and applauding, and saying, “Hear, hear! Take a match and burn the entire accursed Balfour Declaration!” The Zionists all cry foul, and we tell them right back, “tough fucking shit, you wankers!” Can we even appreciate the anger of the British government and people when, for the cause of Zionism, their countrymen and economy have been utterly ruined by two back-to-back world wars, and WHILE the British are fighting Nazi Germany, the Zionist underground in Palestine is attempting to make alliances with fucking Hitler and Mussolini against the British while these terrorist thugs shoot British cops down in the streets of Jerusalem? At the same time that David Ben-Gurion is making nice with the British and telling them he is totally against the “terrorist underground” and all that they do and stand for, he and the Jewish Agency (as the British found out through seized documents) are covertly directing and funding the very same “terrorist underground.” Then when the British MPs declare that these people are lying snakes and NEVER EVER to be trusted for even one god-damned second, the Jewish Agency comes out with the old, “Oh you’re just a bunch of “anti-Semitic racists,” when in reality, these folks are not a “race,” not “Semitic,” nor are they even Jews, according to their own adopted scriptures. The Khazars adopted Judaism FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES! They didn’t give a rat’s ass for the spiritual teachings of the actual religion. This is the history THEY don’t want you to know, and for very, very good reasons, as you might imagine.

In short, because of the way I study history, using “the empathetic time machine method™, I feel like I have been personally hanging out with some of the most violent, devious, and crazy terrorist groups ever to hit the Middle East—highly intelligent, organized, and motivated - yes, but also completely evil and deluded at the same time. And I have been hanging out with these folks in the IZL and LeHI now for a solid year. I will admit to you now openly, that it has definitely taken a toll on my otherwise fairly peaceful consciousness. I have been looking right into the face of Satan himself, and having to listen to all of his fucking non-stop crap, on and on and on.

We are basically living in a seemingly unlimited sea of lies. At every turn, all the people and institutions we were taught to trust and depend on for help and support have turned out to be manned by liars and con-artists, from top to bottom. In this way, we are all suffering the high degree of stress that comes from constant assaults on one’s psyche. Being constantly lied to from all directions is a form of intense “intellectual violence.” To look out on the world now and to think that everything in it is just complete 100% lying horseshit will eventually take a heavy psychological/spiritual toll on even the strongest. What is the tagline of that new Hollywood movie – “Trust no one. Deceive everyone.” Now there is one totally fucked up town for ya. What kind of culture are we building here anyway? Answer: the Weimar sewer culture of the 1920s.

Thanks EV for sending your great email to President Putin. I sent him a lot of real 9/11 Truth stuff and also recommended that he visit the ol’ WTCD. Our Russian subscribership could be picking up a bit. Putin actually goes out on the street all the time and just starts up one-on-one conversations with the Russian people. They just absolutely love him over there (no national debt, UN security council member with full veto powers, and control of at least as much oil as the entire Arab world – the Israelis are completely powerless to threaten him, and that really, really bugs them). Because of this, and Christian Russia’s two new Middle East naval bases, I was talking to an old friend in Tehran recently, Ali Reza (a very funny guy, btw), and he happily told me that the Iranian people are not too worried anymore about the insane Israelis nuking their country. One crazy trigger-happy move out of the Knesset against ANYONE in the Middle East, and Russia will move from “Check” to “Checkmate.” The Isro-Nazis really completely blew it with their little adventure in Georgia. They became blinded by their own bullying arrogance, awakened a sleeping bear, and thus we have a new sheriff in the Middle Eastern balance of power.

gretavo's picture

dude...

as someone who has never so much as been in a fist fight in his life your story about the breaking a bullies legs is a tad disturbing. my advice as a friend would be to relax as you best know how and at least *try* to have faith in your fellow humans to eventually do the right thing. otherwise you are letting your enemy destroy you from within and we can't have that now, can we.

bruce1337's picture

I can really relate to Laz

You get to a point where all that pent up anger -- and I believe there is a righteous kind -- needs to be unleashed. The alternative would be to swallow it, which would probably turn out as healthy as swallowing a hand grendade, and thus, doing it verbally instead of physically can only be a good thing, in my book.

Sure, one might enter what some call "hate speech" territory -- I'd call them PC wankers, though, and PC is nothing less than censorship.
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kate of the kiosk's picture

Satan's nonstop crap and little red pills

thanks for explaining and emoting, dear friend, Laz.  I knew you would.  I can empathize with your Empathetic Time-Machine Method. your frustration and anger is superseding mine right now, but I do go there quite frequently.

your opinions and research posts affect me deeply.  the language of the stick.. i am so befuddled with this these days. And, thought i took the little red pill a while back, but it seems to require chronic administration long-term hopefully on a tapering dose.

i recall bringing you over from 911blogger. You are a hero and are so deserving of love and support. you know, reality=Satan/reality=the goodness of God.  foul stench of 911 truth research/stop-and-smell-the-roses. simple but true.  if you could put the essence of your research into the composition of a song or poem, would the world then listen? of course, we would! we would!

thanks for writing to Putin, Laz, E V and Gret, all.  he is really quite incredibly cool.  

blessings, Lazlo, for being human and for being one of the saints.

 

 

 

kate of the kiosk's picture

come to think of it, i do have a big-stick story

once upon a time a long ago...in my C&W days. I was performing in a dive; and of course we had to wait to start playin until the strippers were done at the bar.

some bikers (no offense intended but tatoos, naked chests, chains - you get the picture)  had cruised in, very trashed. one kept coming up to me trying to grab my mic. i was standing on about a 2-foot tall stage with a 5-piece band behind me...pedal steel, drums, you name it. took a look around and saw that it would have been quite difficult and probably quite bloody if any of my dudes were gonna handle this, so bein that i was wearing my brandy new Frye boots, i hauled off 'nkicked the dude smack in the gut real hard and knocked him back a few staggering paces. now, ya know here he was either gonna come back at me (and by that time the band would be prepared for this, ya betchya!) or slink into a corner. he fell smack down on his knees and begged forgiveness. "hey man, i'm sorry, i'm sorry! man!"  yeah, man my ass.

sorry, Gandhi

so who's next? iz next?

juandelacruz's picture

hi kate, I never thought

hi kate,

I never thought you were the type to get that physical on some biker dudes. But I guess when push comes to shove, you gotta do what you gotta do. Hat's off for handling that situation quick and decisively.

On the whole I support Gret's stance to keep this site a peace zone of sorts. Advocating violence, even for good intentions is quite easily misinterpreted by others not in the circle and is also a vulnerability that may be exploited by our enemies. Remember that someone has already exclaimed that 9-11 truthers are potential terrorists.

I do see a time however when someone has to take the conspirator's guns away, and I haven't quite figured out who would. Ultimately it's the US President who holds the guns, but it seems every US President in recent times is one of "them". In Lazlo's case, having relatives in harms way makes it even more urgent that those guns be taken away asap.

If US soldiers were only more human with any empathy rather than career centered idiots, they should really put their guns down and go on a sit down strike the next time they are assigned a perverse mission such as to strike Iran or detain 9-11 truthers in concentration camps. I am not yet sure if they would be swayed by truth vs chain of command and camaraderie.

I hope they had learned something after Iraq and Afghanistan but I think most of them really are stupid idiots still.

gretavo's picture

Obama deserves the benefit of the doubt

a grace period of sorts for him to show where he stands on the truth. it doesn't mean he has to come right out with it, we'll have to see by the things he says and does whether he closes or opens doors. right now the best thing for 9/11 truth is to ride the tide of change that people clearly want, whether or not they are overly optimistic about Obama. whatever his stance on 9/11 the fact is that he is the first black american president and as I said in a previous post that is something that means a lot to me. steady as she goes, truth crew!

juandelacruz's picture

Aye Capatain

I am happy that Obama got elected. Congrats on your new President! May he be more caring of the innocent people under US boots and less vulnerable to the influence of the Zionist mafia.

juandelacruz's picture

Hi Kate, After thinking

Hi Kate,

After thinking about it, I am really happy now that the US electorate has shown overwhelmingly that they want Bush and his people out of Gov't. That means less Neocons in positions of power (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Just think about it, with less Neocons, there would be less partners in crime for the Zionist mafia. Effectively that means less guns for the perps and more speed bumps for their plans.

Congrats and thank you to the US voters for this change. I as an outsider really appreciate that there is desire to correct some wrongs of the past (even w/o counting 9-11).

kate of the kiosk's picture

a period of grace

yes...kennedyesque stuff is swirling

E Vero's picture

Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!

This song keeps going through my mind...

Now the real work begins:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/With-Hope-Restored-Now-th-by-Anthony-Wa...

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"It is difficult to get the news from poems yet men die miserably every day for lack of what is found there."

--William Carlos Williams (from the poem 'From')

dicktater's picture

Dang! Treatment fails.

SF Sewage Plant Won't Bear Bush Name

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) ― San Francisco voters have turned down the chance to rename a local sewage plant after President Bush.

Voters rejected Proposition R, a lighthearted attempt to memorialize the outgoing president at the Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant.

The measure's supporters say calling it the George W. Bush Sewage Plant would have been a fitting tribute to the 43rd president. They blamed Bush for a long list of national woes from the Iraq war to the slumping economy.

Some critics had pointed out the name switch would have been unfair—to the hard-working sewage plant.

"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
~~ attributed to Senator Everett Dirksen

gulu's picture

Pepsi wins!!

Out with the old coke.Pepsi is much better.I do wish Obama the best but Im skeptical of any real change.

juandelacruz's picture

yup, though I think Obama

yup, though I think Obama aint a full conspiracy partner like I imagine Cheney was, he does not strike me as a principled person who will pursue the truth even if he found out about 9-11. Who are we kidding here, he knows by now, but he won't talk. Though I give him the benefit of the doubt that he won't facilitate or actively support future false flag ops to engange in more wars, I still think he will preserve the cover up of the truth behind 9-11. He does not look like he has the courage to expose the Zionists or whoever the 9-11 conspirator are.

I applaud his stated aim to take US troops out of Iraq, and I think he will do what he can not to get into a war with Iran for Israel. His stance to increase troop presence in Afghanistan is a give away however that he is still partly corrupted already. He has some good in him, maybe even a lot, but not the sweeping change required catch the damn 9-11 perps.

I expect the 9-11 plotters to lie low and go to a hide mode. Obama will probably help them in this respect.

gretavo's picture

i'm not so sure...

"Who are we kidding here, he knows by now, but he won't talk."

There are some people who must know or suspect something without question. there are others who may genuinely just not have given it enough thought or attention. We tend to think that everyone, especially in government, must be aware of what the truth is, that the OCT is a sham. I'm consistently surprised at what I consider some people's genuine surprise and ignorance on the issue. I may be wrong, but we should be careful not to dismiss out of hand the possibility, however slim, that any given person is genuinely in the dark. There are degrees of anti-truthness after all, including passively ignoring the issue and actively working to sabotage our efforts. Our campaign needs to take those differences into account, imo.