Thierry Meyssan on French television, March 2002

casseia's picture

I had never seen this guy speak prior to this video -- far from being a "missile struck the Pentagon" obsessive, he appears more interested in pointing out the obvious problems with the official version of Pentagon events. (He may have subsequently become more convinced of a missile.) This is worth checking out even if you don't speak French, just to get a sense of the guy's demeanor.

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dicktater's picture

Well, they seem to be French,

judging from the outrageous accents, at least. But, where are their silly mustaches?

Seriously, I wish that I knew someone who could translate. I just can't seem to work in a crash couse in conversational French at this time. Why isn't there a consumer version of babelfishAV (googlefish?) yet? I'll bet the NSA has their own version.

"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
~~ attributed to Senator Everett Dirksen

casseia's picture

Yes, I concur

They do indeed seem to be French.

The funny mustache is on the guy over on this thread, Jean Marie Bigard:

http://www.wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1804

gretavo's picture

no wine, no cheese, and no baguettes or croissants...

I am not so sure they are french, C455...

casseia's picture

No berets, either, come to think of it...

I guess the jury's still out.

bruce1337's picture

On a related note

I'm opposed to further use of the term "military-industrial complex" because it omits "financial", and thus reeks of classic misdirection.
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kate of the kiosk's picture

does seem a bit lacking, i agree.

and do headings like high-tech research, IT, aerospace come under military-industrial complex?

and commodities, energy resources (oil) under financial?..

 

juandelacruz's picture

The only caveat to financial

The only caveat to financial elite is that it is just as or even more vague than military-industrial complex. Arms manufacturers have at least a common interest in wars and preparations for such. The financial elite can be any banker with diverse interests and varying degrees of involvement in the conspiracies that we are interested in. I wish we could narrow down the term financial elite to those predators linked to 9-11 and other manipulations that betray the public. On the whole however, I agree that the real head of this networks are probably 'financial elites', and the arms and industrial manufacturers and heads of states/political elites are just their valuable but in the end disposable minions.

kate of the kiosk's picture

cabal: The Global Dominance Group or GDG

as per Dr. Peter Philips

was listening to a lecture of his last night...he used the term
GLOBAL DOMINANCE GROUP in connection with 9/11. will try to find the feed link to the lecture.

he names names, including AIPAC, but not quite heavy-handedly.

bruce1337's picture

Global Dominance Group -- fits the bill

If only it were a bit more compact...
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gretavo's picture

how about

the gaea dominMatrix ?

bruce1337's picture

I'm sure they would like that!

I however believe it shouldn't have more than...say 3 syllables. Like ma-fi-a, or ne-o-con. I would use "elite", but I believe it conveys merit -- something the neofeudalist swine are quite short of.
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Mime 11's picture

i was going to suggest neofeudalist

but it has tols of silly labels. besides when americans hear "feud" they think of the game show Family Feud which has little to do feudalism.

NB feud stops making sense if you write read or say it repeatedly

bruce1337's picture

The post-royals maybe?

Guess that won't resonate with the average joe, either. Oh well, I gotta catch some sleep now!
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bruce1337's picture

It's truly Orwellian.

Lacking the proper words to articulate the situation accurately, falling back on vague terms like "them" -- that kind of communicative impotence was the stated purpose of doublespeak, wasn't it?

I've switched to speaking of "the cabal", receiving a lot of frowns in the process, but it's still better than "them" -- the nameless shall be named, after all.

Let's put our minds to finding the right word!
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juandelacruz's picture

If we can even name what we

If we can even name what we are up against, I think it would go a long way to fighting it.

casseia's picture

What about Peter Dale Scott's term "deep state"?

It has to be understood that not all parts of the Deep State are state per se (in the usual way state is understood as government.) Meh... I'm not convincing myself entirely.

gretavo's picture

"Deep State" sounds dirty

And frankly I'm shocked at my association of Peter Dale Scott with pornographic innuendo.

dicktater's picture

Creechtures?

mmmm.... a better name for the MICMF mofos?

I'm kinda partial to "creechtures."

Reference the Andy Griffith Show.

When Mrs. Wiley called Ernest T. Bass a creature, he responded:

"Creechture?! Who you callin' a creechture?!"

Sadly, I can't find a sound file. Here's the best I can do. Enjoy!


clicky, clicky:

http://www.barbneal.com/wav/andy/ernest.wav

If you've never seen the episode in which Mrs. Wiley tries to teach Ernest T. Bass some manners, you haven't lived.

"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
~~ attributed to Senator Everett Dirksen

gretavo's picture

a few notes on the Meyssan show

1) as founder of the Voltaire Network, apparently Meyssan was in the habit pre-9/11 of accusing Opus Dei and the National Front. Opus Dei is the "secret elite ruling society" of Roman Catholicism--in theory anyway the sworn enemies of the "secret elite ruling society" of the world's Jews. To this he adds with 9/11 the US elite and military industrial complex. I may have misunderstood but this seems to be what the moderator says.

2) Meyssan uses a Tom Horan (AP) photo and points to the wrong part of the pic. The actual entry point is on the right of the pic, behind the fence that was erected to guard the impact zone (presumably). This confused me until recently I made sure to determine for sure what that pic shows, since it is useful in online discussions.

3) the USA today liar (cruise missile with wings) is right there with Harley Guy as a prime suspect of conspiracy to cover-up.

4) If this is from 2002 in March how is it that they have the four frames released by the Pentagon--didn't those come out much later?

5) Meyssan says the department of defense said the crumpled piece of metal outside the Pentagon is not part of the plane? (a bit before 12:00)

6) The dude at the end says essentially he's not sure but it does sound interesting and that it's important because they are the only country asking these questions. Remember that France in 2002 was public enemy number one (freedom fries, etc.) according to the manufactured public narrative.

7) what show is this, what network, and who owns it?

7) there would seem to be more following this clip--where it at?

casseia's picture

Deuxieme partie

gretavo's picture

follow the yellow brick road

and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! you know, I think I know where the mythical island of misfit castaway toys we call home is located! Click your heels three times while repeating "there's no place like truth..."


gretavo's picture

no attention! there is no man there!