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Douglas Feith - War criminal on the run

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Submitted by dicktater on Tue, 2008-09-30 04:02.

Oozing with the anger we all feel inside. 

WeAreChange confronts Douglas Feith on War Crimes 


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gretavo's picture

blah - who is this nut?

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2008-09-30 12:06.

Doug Feith may be guilty as hell but this confrontation doesn't help our cause. The dude is out of control, screaming, etc. This is why I don't trust Luke Rudkowski, Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, Infowars, WeAreChange, or any other fake truthers. They are trying to affect the public's perception of who WE are and what WE do. They make us look like idiots to anyone who doesn't feel like looking into the facts. And who would after seeing this display? This is pure fake truth crap, imo.

That anger is not MY anger, that anger is a fake truth trademark. I haven't very angry at all since I realized that we have won and that it's just a matter of time now before everyone realizes it.

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kate of the kiosk's picture

perhaps, the angry mob mentality, and he should at least have

Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Tue, 2008-09-30 12:38.

figured out how to pronounce his name. but i struggle with this, as I can  personally relate to his anger...in fact,  don't know what I would have done if i were there, and wish there had been more voices haranging in public poor little beleageured mr feith. 

did you hear that idiot countering the accusations with "but read Popular Mechanics, read Popular Mechanics!"

puke

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gretavo's picture

i did hear that

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2008-09-30 14:18.

popular mechanics guy--indeed PLEASE read popular mechanics (we link to it in Featured Content) and judge for yourself whether they truly explain away all of the "conspiracy theorists'" concerns.

i can also relate to the guy's anger but that doesn't excuse actions that hurt the movement. if you can't manage your anger you are not going to be helping any cause that you claim to support.

it is also clear to me that the fake truth movement is encouraging obnoxious outbursts and an overall threatening stance in order to pave the way for the manufactured perception of 9/11 truthers as unstable, dangerous fools.

this is Nietzsche's "perfidious harm" maxim in effect and people like me have to deal with the consequences by having our efforts at calm rational outreach cast in a bad light from the outset. stunts like this are simply delaying our victory over public ignorance and misunderstanding.

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Lazlo Toth's picture

I completely support you Uncle Gret in all your comments here,

Submitted by Lazlo Toth on Tue, 2008-09-30 23:08.

And commend you for your vision and understanding of things. On many occasions I have watched these We Are Change encounters, and I either cringe, or yell at the guy in the video to ask a more pertinent, closer to the truth-target kind of question. Yelling like a lunatic about the CFR and the ‘Rockefeller Conspiracy’, and then throwing in “9/11 is an inside job” goes against many fundamental rules of Sun Tzu’s “Art of War.” You must know when to give your opponent “a way out” of a single battle in order to win a longer, and larger war. If you corner an opponent, there can be no real dialogue. When you encounter someone like a Feith, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Zelikow, et al., you need to ask more engaging questions, and come with more to the point information. You need to employ disarming conversational tactics and techniques like professional investigators use. I must say that our old friend Shumonik (-) has had some excellent “We Are Change” style encounters out in L.A., and he may be one of the only people on 9/11B, since we all bailed out who even mentions ICTS Intl., or knows what it is. We will take any kind of information victory possible, and I give credit where credit is due. He spoke before the L.A. City Council, but, as would be expected with a Zionista Mayor who wants to play “the game,” Menachem Atzmon’s ICTS Intl. got a big LAX security contract. Remind me not to fly to Los Angeles for a very long time.

Thanks again, G.

Remain calm. Be patient. Control your senses and your emotions (practice). Ask compelling questions backed by tight information. Be a warrior with vision. Trust in TrueRealityâ„¢.

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kate of the kiosk's picture

support to ole Uncle Gret

Submitted by kate of the kiosk on Wed, 2008-10-01 12:12.

as do i, Lazlo.  regarding that particular Feith vs. Kelly encounter, i would hope that if Kelly had employed, as you say "disarming convesational tactics and techniques like professional investigators use" that their dialogue would have been apparent and audible to more of those present than would an intimate conversation between Feith and Kelly. some measured intensity called for?

but the conversation about controlling the tongue and one's anger deserves attention, always.  The anger that motivated the Newark riots of the 60s was understandable, but the manner in which it was expressed distorted their cause.

and, regarding "don't know what I would do",  i stand corrected. Certainly have been present at more than a fair share of "peaceful" street vigils, candlelit and all, which would turn supernasty with some on our side yelling angry retorts and calling names when provoked by those on the other side or passers-by giving us the finger and name-calling. I always showed restraint.

I have been reading the Popular Mechanics explanations, and they are absolutely ludicrous! thanks for linking on this site.

hey, young spud just saw Cake in Rochester at the Armory! she and her buds had VIP transport, seats, and treatment, complements of UR !

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gretavo's picture

sorry for being cranky...

Submitted by gretavo on Wed, 2008-10-01 14:28.

especially towards dicktater whose posts were mainly involved in my rant. it's not you, DT, it's me. Well, it's not really me either, it's the fakers everywhere. Others may well disagree but I am convinced that there is a very clear campaign afoot to define us and what we do as truthers, that is very similar to the way that the antiwar movement allowed itself to be defined, to the detriment of all.

While I agree, for example, that the Denver cops' union t-shirt is horribly inappropriate, I think that we can't ignore the fact that it is in direct response (as we can see by the "68" with th eline through it) to the "Recreate 68" provocation campaign headed up by the 9/11 truth denying fake left.

In other words, it seems that while marginalizing truthers with displays of obnoxious behavior, the 9/11 perps and their apologists are also trying to drive deep wedges between the 9/11 truth ignorant public. By getting all the people who still cling to the official fairy tale to fight each other about stupid shit they hope to divide Americans in perpetuity along illusory political lines. We need only look at the rejection of the Wall Street Bailout of 2008 bill by a coalition of republicans and democrats to see what the fake shit is all about. Those who voted for the bailout are the "Corrupt Party" and those who did not are the "Slightly More Principled Party". If these two parties weren't otherwise pretending to be red and blue partisans on secondary issues like abortion and gay marriage, this country might actually manage to fix some its problems.

Instead the efforts continue within and without the 9/11 truth movement to make everyone hate each other, to delude everyone into thinking that they are always right and those who disagree are always wrong. You're either with Limbaugh and O'Reilly or you're with Maddow and Olbermann and Maher. Or you aspire to "non-partisanship" and stick to Brokaw and Couric. Guess what? All of them are on the same side, and they play their fans for chumps day in day out for whatever it is they get out of it--money, fame, drugs, sex, whatever.

9/11 Truth is a real problem for the fakers because one thing it is not is fake. There may be fake truthers, but the paradigm shift is absolutely real, as are our facts. Thus we have truthers slammed as being right wingers (thanks Alex Jones!) or as Bush-hating blame-America-firsters (thanks Sander Hicks!) But the ranks of critical thinkers, those who are neither playing a fake role nor following someone who does are growing, which is why I mostly try to laugh at the charades going on aboard the sinking ship of fraud. But now and then I can't contain my disgust at this incredibly cynical and disgusting behavior on the part of so many liars, sorry.

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gretavo's picture

sorry, had to edit the title

Submitted by gretavo on Tue, 2008-09-30 14:29.

I don't think there's much question that the man is a war criminal since it would seem that he is quite guilty of fomenting an illegal war through deception. To call someone a murderer though implies that they actually killed someone directly and no one to my knowledge has ever credibly suggested that is the case with Feith.

People may also notice that some blog posts will be taken off the front page (they will still show up in your personal blog page.) I don't mean to be a tyrant about it but I'm going to try to keep the front page as free as possible of stuff that seems not to have that much to do with 9/11, or that becomes repetitive...

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