Gates: Troops could go to Pakistan

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/01/24/us.pakistan/index.html
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Gates says the U.S. is willing to send troops into Pakistan
Move would depend on approval of the Pakistani government
Cricket legend turned politician Imran Khan describes proposal as "a disaster"
The U.S. provides Pakistan with military aid worth $750 million
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said Thursday that the United States is "ready, able and willing" to send troops to Pakistan if the government of the South Asian nation is interested.
U.S. military officials have told CNN that commanders are reviewing a classified planning order that could result in troops going to Pakistan for training purposes if Pakistan's government approves.
The announcement comes as Pakistan's government faces what Gates called increased efforts by al Qaeda.
Musharraf and other Pakistani leaders, however, have repeatedly said it is their military -- not that of the United States -- that will fight elements of al Qaeda and the Taliban that are believed to live and train in the mountainous region of Pakistan that borders Afghanistan.
"It's obviously been a subject of ongoing dialogue," Gates said. "Pakistan is a sovereign country; they clearly have the right to decide whether or not forces from another country are going to operate on their soil.
"We will continue the dialogue, but we would not do anything without their approval."
Analysts say the visible presence of U.S. troops -- particularly a large ground force -- could provoke anti-American sentiment among many Pakistanis.
"The presence of U.S. forces in Pakistan would be hugely inflammatory for the rest of the country and probably would destabilize Pakistan in a more serious way than it is right now," said Frederick Barton of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank. "So, clearly, training is the best thing we can do."
Pakistani opposition leader Imran Khan, in comments to CNN International, predicted that a heavy U.S. military presence in the tribal areas along the Pakistan-Afghan border would make the situation worse, not better.
"If the U.S. sends its troops into the tribal areas, it will be a bigger quagmire than Iraq," said Khan, a former cricket star seeking the nation's presidency. "It will be the biggest disaster U.S. could commit."
Khan, who is harshly critical of Musharraf, said the president has "finally" begun engaging tribal leaders in the area in an attempt to isolate al Qaeda and other terror groups -- an effort he says a U.S. presence would harm.
"Winning the tribal people over to your side is not (done) by using helicopter gunships and bombing the villages where innocent people are dying ... you're actually pushing them in the other direction," Khan said. "People who understand the tribal area would never think of such a policy."
Gates said that if a training plan went through, it likely would involve "a very small number" of U.S. troops.
The cost of any new training program would be in addition to the $750 million in security and economic aide the United States provides to the country.
Pakistan is considered an ally in the war against al Qaeda and the Taliban, despite concerns among some about Musharraf's humanitarian record and level of dedication to stamping out extremists.
Musharraf placed the country under a six-week state of emergency late last year, during which he ousted most of the Supreme Court justices who had been expected to nullify his recent election victory on constitutional grounds. A former leader of Pakistan's military, Musharraf seized power in a bloodless coup in 1999.
Gates said al Qaeda has increased its activity in Pakistan and begun partnering with other extremist groups in the nation -- a situation that threatens not just the country or region, but the whole world.
"It would be unreasonable to assume that all of the planning they're doing is focused strictly on Pakistan," he said. "I think that it's a continued threat to Europe as well as to us."
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I think that whenever US
I think that whenever US forces get in contact with that of third world countries, a situation is created where the local soldiers and officers may be coopted or recruited by the US. Most third world countries have soldiers that are poorly paid and equipped due to measly budgets, a consequence of poor economies. They are impressed by the high tech equipment and skills of the US soldiers. Given this situation, I think some of the local soldiers forget their loyalty to their country and become easy prey to recruitment by US intel.
It's done here, too.
Through the militarization of police by the gifting of death toys and other eVil gadgets is how they have co-opted local law enforcement and turned them against us. Complimented with a certain amount of brainwashing, selective recruiting of bullies and goons, and false-flag attacks against police, of course.
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Really sorry this is all
Really sorry this is all happening. I hope you regain your democracy soon.
In one of the local forums I have been active with, I just got threats of bodily injury from moderators who were not pleased when I posted artcles about Nixon and Kissinger caught on tape discussing the overthrow of Allende in Chile. It turns out a lot of the moderators in that Filipino forum were of Filipino ancestry but ex US military servicemen and currrently US citizens who do not like anything bad about the US Govt. being mentioned in the forum. It did not matter to them that my post was straight up cut and paste from HuffPost and New York Times.
I could not understand how a Filipino (even if he only used to be one) could be defending the US for secretly taking out a third world country's elected leader and replacing him with military dictators. The mods were so brainwashed they consider the Nixon-Kissinger expose an unproven conspiracy.
Such mindless morons policing everybody else was so painful to watch.
Sadly, it is closer to democracy where we are heading.
This was supposed to be a Constitutional Republic where the Rights of the individual came above all else. Not a democracy, which is just mob rule, tyranny of the masses where individuals have no rights whatsoever.
It was supposed to be a nation of rule by written law, law written in a form that the common man could read and understand. Law that clearly defined and limited the scope and power of government.
It has become a nation of rule by men at their whim. That is the very definition of tyranny. And since these men can manipulate and mind control the the majority, however it might resemble democracy, it is just an illusion. A programmed, robotic, tyrannical democracy.
A nightmare.
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Though human noses have an impressive 5 million olfactory cells with which to smell, sheepdogs have 220 million, enabling them to smell 44 times better than men.
Dirty Wars in Latin America?
Is the US Restarting Dirty Wars in Latin America?
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/4-ilea-is-the-us-res...
US military and police training budgets in Central and South America is on a rebound. When will the madness end?
Never ended
As far as I'm concerned, these projects never ended. They only went more or less covert. They're probably cover, in part, for drug smuggling operations. So, they never really could end because the money is just too good.
At the same time, they are probably using trainees as a human cannon fodder resource pool for wars of aggression against other nations and against us here in the states.
I'm now heard that of up to 315,000 foreign troops are currently bivouacked inside the US. Maybe that's why there is "The McDonaldization of Prisons", in addition to all the other similar cozy weirdness being constructed.
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Though human noses have an impressive 5 million olfactory cells with which to smell, sheepdogs have 220 million, enabling them to smell 44 times better than men.
Oh, come on!
Controlled mass media, political pseudo-opposition & election fraud ≠democracy.
It might be a matter of faith, but I believe that if "the mob" relied on trustworthy sources of information and was given real choices for representatives (or, better yet, participated in direct democracy now more feasible than ever before), "mob rule" wouldn't be a bad thing. But maybe I'm just not elitist enough ;-)
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