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Israeli Army Too Tired for Another War
Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:14:31 GMT
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=68516§ionid=351020202
A former Israeli commander says the army has not been prepared enough for another war after it faced an “embarrassing†defeat in Lebanon.
Major General (res.) Moshe Ivri-Sukenik, who resigned as commander of the Israel Defense Forces' Northern Corps earlier this year, strongly criticized the Israeli offensive into Lebanon, Ha’aretz reported.
He also described the results of the 33-day Lebanon war as “embarrassing†and said “It will take time for the IDF to recover from the wounds of the war.â€
Israel experienced a crushing defeat after it launched the military strike in southern Lebanon in July 2006. A report by an Israeli fact-finding committee also revealed that the war was nothing but a defeat for the regime.
Brave Members of the Israeli Navy Take on Unarmed Fishermen
As long as Israel’s cowardly Pussy Army (the IPA) is able to take on little kids, the elderly, school girls returning home from classes, fishermen, human rights workers, or prisoners bound in handcuffs, they are big brave and powerful men, but as soon as they take on an army of real men like Hizb-allah or the Russian army who fire real bullets, these little pussy dweebs go running for the skirts of their Jewish mamas. Through false-flag attacks on their American and British allies (on U.S. and U.K. soil, and in Iraq) they have tricked American kids into fighting their wars in the Middle East ever since 2001, and American kids having been fighting there year after year ever since, but these Zio-dweebs are still psychologically recovering from fighting a 33 day war in Lebanon two years ago! This all just goes to prove that you can have the most expensive, well equipped army in the world, but if it is staffed by cowards and pussies, it cannot possibly win a single battle ever (see their latest failure in Georgia). All the money in the world cannot buy bravery or masculinity.
Call your Congressman or Congresswoman now and tell them NO MORE U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY SHOULD BE FURTHER WASTED ON THIS PSYCHO TERROR STATE! “Not one more nickel!â€
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I agree IDF soldiers are sadistic yet craven bullies . . .
but, Laz, is there a way to describe men as cowards without invoking the use of female genitalia?
Actually, if you think about swear words, they either have religious overtones (profanity or blasphemy), like "goddamn it," "go to hell"; sexual overtones (obscenity), like "fuck you"; bodily-waste overtones (vulgarities), as in calling someone an "asshole" or "full of shit"; or just plain focus on female body parts (cunt, pussy), behavior (whore, bitch), or parentage somehow implicating "bad" women (son of a bitch, bastard). Now, if like me you're an atheist, then profanities really lose their sting, so you must search that much harder for other ways to express yourself. If you take women out of the equation, this limits your expletive range even further, pretty much down to the bodily waste category. There are however a few male terms that don't implicate women, so, perhaps, if female terms must be used, maybe you could mix it up a bit by inserting some male derogatory terms, like "dick" or something to do with sperm or ejaculate. Just a suggestion; your writing is otherwise very beautiful.
E
Laz is lucky that Cass...
...our resident feminazi is on a deep cover truthing mission in gay Paree, otherwise he might be on the receiving end of a PC smackdown... :)
this PC business
hehehe . . . PC smackdown, that's funny. I go back and forth on this; I should be tough enough not to be hurt by this sort of thing. Reacting to mere words as if they have magical power is deeply superstitious, but then I get mad, too, because these IDF creeps are the lowest form of life. The worst thing one can think of to call them is pussies? Are pussies that bad?? It just irks me.
E
On Profanity and the IDF
Sorry E about my uncouth, politically incorrect potty mouth, but those faux Jew Nazi boys just provoke the very root of my anger and wrath. There is nothing that gets me madder than an arrogant bully picking on helpless people, and I have now seen so much footage of these animalistic monsters in action now, that when I saw the video of the cowardly Coast Guard of this little illegitimate pariah state firing on fishermen and international aid workers, I just flipped out and became exceedingly enraged. And they think it’s all just a big fkn joke that they can fire on civilians (like that family picnicking on the beach in Gaza) with absolutely no national or international repercussions whatsoever. In the many human rights reports and psychological reports I’ve read where some of these “soldiers†are interviewed about their experiences in the Occupied Territories, many have reported that when they enter the OT, they become essentially like gods, and can do just about anything they want. They become judge, jury, and executioner, a situation in which they can fulfill all their sadistic supremacist power fantasies. And I could tell you stories that would bring your blood to its absolute boiling point.
They want it both ways. For the purposes of collecting massive amounts of foreign aid and free military hardware, they want to maintain the eternal poor victim ‘why does everyone always hate us?’ image, but at the same time they run a country that puts any real or imagined Nazi brutality to absolute shame. The whole period of the German Reich rounding up Jews as “treasonous, fifth column enemies of the State,†and their being placed in work camps as a result, lasted from the beginning of 1942 to mid 1945 (3 ½ years) – big frickin’ deal, and the deaths due to starvation in those camps at the end of the war were due to the allied carpet bombing of all supply routes and transportation infrastructure, not because the Nazis were trying to systematically “exterminate†them with lice spray. The reality of this whole scenario is described in great detail in the multi-volume Red Cross reports published in Geneva. The Palestinian Holocaust, however, (which is actually demonstrably real) has been going on now for over 60 years! And no one, as in nobody, says a damn thing! Where is bonehead Bono and all the bleeding heart Hollywood liberals on this? Where are Sean Penn and Tim Robbins on this? Their voices are completely 100% silent because they are cowards and hypocrites of the absolute highest order. They only speak out when it is fashionably approved and safe to do so. Ooo, Sean Penn is speaking out against the war. No guts or bravery needed there. Tim Robbins says Bush and Cheney are evil and stupid. Big deal, so does the rest of global humanity. How about protesting against Apartheid Israhell, Timmy, Susie, and Sean? How about telling that “country†not to kill anymore American civilians and soldiers in terror operations designed to make it look like Muslims are attacking us?
Have you heard that Sir Paul “how do you sleep?†McCartney is playing a big gig this month in Tel Aviv? He actually said, “I’ve heard so many great things about Israel, and I can’t wait to see it.†Just goes to prove that you can be a billionaire and still be a complete idiot. No wonder I always hated the crappy bubblegum Muzak tunes he always pumped out. John and George were the real geniuses in that group. I hope he sings “I am the idiot, goo goo ga jewâ€
I’ll just very clearly lay it all out, as if you didn’t know already from my writings – I fucking hate the racist apartheid state of Israel with all my heart and soul! These people are not Jews, and neither are they Semites. No deity gave them any real estate, nor are they a “chosen†people superior to the rest of humanity. Their whole schtick is built upon fables and fairytales, and their power derives from lording it over the Gentiles due to their having convinced these good, but gullible people, that these Hebrew fairytales are equivalent to real historical events. Their mythology is all borrowed from the earlier civilizations of Egypt and Mesopotamia, and even their god YHWH was appropriated from the Canaanite pantheon. The members of the leadership of Zion are nothing but lying con-artists, thieves, and murderers, and I am, of course, NOT referring here to ALL Jews. My mother is Jewish (although like Brother Nathaniel Kapner, she is a practicing Christian) and she thinks the whole thing is a con game as well (cf. my essay published here at WTCD on the magical Kabalistic ‘six million’ number).
On the profanity issue, one of my childhood heroes was the comedian Lenny Bruce (George Carlin’s guru), and one of his favourite subjects of satirical and social discourse was the usage of language, particularly the usage of profanity to not only shock, but to get one’s point across in a more powerful way by challenging the audience’s preconceived notions about not only language, but things in general – politics, religion, social taboos, etc. In fact, this whole left-wing, Jewish liberal, language police thing we now call “political correctness†is EXACTLY what he was constantly challenging. “Political correctness†is just another control mechanism scam, and I for one, probably due to Lenny’s influence, refuse to buy into it and play along with the rest of “the crowd.â€
In the context of an angry political diatribe on a blog, the employment of “profanity,†or what is relatively and arbitrarily decided upon to be “profane†by the invisible social arbiters of “good taste,†is also a bit of a literary steam valve for people like myself. For example, academics are not allowed (EVER) to write like Henry Miller in his “Tropic of Cancer†or William Burroughs in “Naked Lunch.†In academic papers or in a class lecture, I am constantly restrained within very strict parameters of language usage and mode of presentation. I do find the replacement of the perfectly good word “hell†with “heck†to be just downright silly, and when I use the phrase “god-damned,†I actually do try to consciously use it to mean just what it says, as in the “god-damned state of Israhell,†for it is my strong belief that this country, due to its lengthy history of abject hypocrisy and outrageous crimes against humanity, is in fact damned by God - that is if you believe in the existence of a moral deity of some sort who shall call you to account in some karmic manner in the end, which I do. As far as the usage of the word “pussy†referring to a coward or bully, I honestly have never thought about it as referring to a woman’s vagina, and I sincerely was not trying to offend yours. In terms of bullies, or cowardice vs. the bravery of a noble warrior (such as Saladin or Richard the Lionheart), I was thinking more in terms of a strong and noble lion as opposed to that of a cub or a little weak “pussy.†I wasn’t trying to offend women, nor was I trying to imply that the bullies of the IDF are or have vaginas, although there certainly are women in the IDF. I was trying to imply that, by their actions in Palestine, Lebanon, and now Georgia, that they are like “paper tigers,†or “pussies.†When an army is accustomed to proving how powerful and manly they are by beating up, torturing, and killing in target practice little kids, the elderly, and schoolgirls, when they finally do meet an army of brave fighters seasoned in real combat, such a “pussy†army will ALWAYS end up running from the battlefield in defeat. Anyone can beat up a bound prisoner. Torturing prisoners to prove your manhood is just about the most pathetic thing on earth. Anyways, having said all this, I will attempt to curb my licentious language a bit in the future so as not to offend the visitors and blog members of this site, although calling a bully and a coward a “dickhead†rather than a “pussy†lays out, imho, the wrong imagery or analogy in this particular case.
Ciao,
Lazlo T.
Ciao my friend, Laz
Hi Laz,
Thanks for your reply. You did really lay it all out, and I appreciate that. I appreciate and believe that you intended no harm to pussies in general or mine in particular. (I will stop cringing now.) I forgot about Lions vs. little cubs (pussies). I feel like a PC-idiot and I hate that!
Anyway, it's hard to comprehend how horrible these people are -- they are like virtuosos of evil. I heard, unconfirmed, that they even have travel tours incorporating the opportunity to witness Palestinian prisoners being tortured or shot: Private viewing cubicles, complete with kleenex so as they watch people being maimed or killed they can shoot their loads, too, if you know what I mean. It's hard to wrap my head around such evil. I wouldn't be surprised if I hear next that they were EATING Palestinians. And thank you for putting it into perspective vis-a-vis the Holohoax. Sixty years of occupation and genocide vs. three years of labor camps culminating in starvation conditions for some -- there is just no comparison.
By the way, something has been bothering me for some time, and I need to 'fess up. I'm not really Jewish as first reported on 911b. I lied to make my anti-Israeli points more palatable. I had however for years felt a strong affinity to the Jewish faith, due to mentors and friends of mine, and would have converted if it weren't for my atheism. I always wanted to be a secular, cultural jew, because I admired so many parts about their culture. The weird part is that I chose my profession in large part because of the supposed injustice of the holocaust. Now I'm really at loose ends in a way, but then not really, because the social problems I seek to understand are still happening, just different people are involved. Prejudice is still happening but the antagonists have changed. So here I am an avowed lover of many Jews who has to at the same time acknowledge this horrid side that seems to confirm a lot of what Hitler said. After all, jews were involved in hogtying Germany financially after WWI and also mightily implicated in the Bolshevik Revolution and communist movements worldwide. I can't believe I'm even typing this - even 3 years ago, I'd label myself a skinhead!
BTW, I swear in class sometimes, just to make a point, as you are saying Bruce advocated. One of my mentors used to do the same thing, and I picked it up from him. Right now, I sort of don't care if I'm fired anyway. My research alone (on 911 as well as other cultural myths) may be enough to put me on probation; I just hope it's with pay...
Off topic a bit: The weird thing about McCartney - you noticed accurately that his musical contribution is dwarfed by John/George's post-Beatle oevre. The band breaks up, M forms his own, and "Wings" pumps out nothing but bubble-gum pop. Interesting, E. Hufschmidt (persona non grata on this site) has some interesting ideas about how the real McCartney died and was replaced by a dummy to save the quid potentially lost by breaking up the band due to M's death. Sounds weird, I know, but you've got to look at the pics of M's eyes pre and post car accident. Very different, very weird. (I even think he's right about the Appollo Moon Hoax, but I knew about that prior to looking at his site.)
I'm going to read some of these downloaded books that Gretavo helped me find (Finkelstein's, plus others on the H-o-Hoax). I hope that all this info comes out some day, but I fear that ordinary Jews will end up paying the price, and the resulting pograms will be used to justify the next militaristic buildup. ('See we were right, we need our own homeland, so now let's takeover NJ.') Still, I'm not brave enough to talk to any of my jewish friends about this stuff. It's just so threatening. Even the topic of 9/11 is just so verboten, just because someone once poisoned the well by claiming that "jews did 9/l1."
That's also why this book is important, because if Jews aren't a people or a race or even semitic, then criticizing the state of Israel cannot be construed as racist behavior. It's true - if any other country were doing this stuff - we'd call it Apartheid, we'd see the evil right in front of us.
E
hard not to agree with you Laz
after watching those vids one really has to search hard for words to describe these degenerates. what is worst is that when you meet an Israeli who happens to be in the US, studying, spying, working illegaly, or a combination thereof, it's that stupid "joie de vivre" act they put on, like we are supposed to think what amazing humans they are for being so joyful in the face of SO much htred directed against them, hatred they have never done ANYthing to deserve. Oh no, it's "we Israelis yearn to live in peace blabla". EVEN worse is the Jewish American Zionists who let themselves be bribed with a free Birthright (Brainwash) Israel trip into becoming little Zionazi apologists by freakin' profession. "Well, I've BEEN to Israhell and everyone was so joyful even thoughn they live in constant fear of attacks by brutal Palestinian and Islamic terorrists. It's the only democracy in the entire middle east you know. Bla bla bla." Ugh.
not offended by profanity - no PC here when
more vitally important issues are at stake. Lazlo, fire away!
i hear you about the Lenny Bruce and the use of the profane for effect, and the toll of academic rigor on your freedom of expression.
on the other hand, i find it quite amusing that there really is no profane term alluding to men that most men would really find insulting - dickhead, prick, bastard, sonofabitch...eh..
coward?
maybe.
thank you, again, for your compassion for and defense of our dear Palestinian brothers and sisters.
it has been an issue of anger and sorrow for me for most of my life - ever since i first learned of and witnessed their plight while living in Beirut as a child in the 60s.Â
so you fear an attack on israel by iran, russia...Â
blessings to you and yours, Lazlo
ah, a voice of sanity
good to be reminded what that sounds like. well, in defense of the blog, I think the sentiment behind it is not that Israelis don't fire real bullets but that they are too much in the habit of fighting people who don't. i don't think it can be denied that our friend "Lazlo Toth" here sometimes goes over the top in his rhetoric, granted. i also have to say that it is not necessarily a bad thing to vent anger once in a while--we kid around and have fun here as a matter of course but in the real world people are being systematicaly brutalized and actually truly in a sense exterminated while people generally are either kept in the dark about the situation or told that there is nothing wrong. i wonder if you watched the video embedded in the blog. i ask because i had a similar reaction to yours until i finally did and only then felt compelled to respond to the content as opposed to the clearly politically incorrect style. what struck me particularly (since I'm a sucker for puns and the like) was the juxtaposition of "Terror" and "error". In other words, when any violence is commited against Israelis it is "Terror" whereas when the Israelis commit violent acts they are always "regrettably" in "error". And that isn't even taking into consideration that some of the "Terror" committed against Israelis may even be false flag terror committed by the Israelis themselves. So, while the better angels of my nature certainly agree with you, Scrubby, I can't deny feeling a certain level of anger in a "good versus evil" way. That isn't to excuse vitriolic outbursts, but by way of acknowledging once in a while the visceral reaction that the current level of deceit and injustice gives rise to in me. It is worth acknowledging it because if we who are simply aware of but not directly affected by the situation feel this way, how must those who daily experience its effects feel, especially given what we know to be the overwhelming silence of the majority?
Sorry to disturb you Scrubby, but
I find a world completely silent in the face of 60 + years of unpunished, and for the most part, unspoken of, real genocide and crimes against humanity much more disturbing than mere angry words emitting from a computer keyboard typed in response to that genocide and those human rights crimes. And yes, I am very angry and very disturbed about this constant double standard and abject hypocrisy by know-nothing liberals in the face of it all. I have been watching the very real daily genocidal horrors and human rights crimes committed by the illegitimate Jewish apartheid state against the indigenous and rightful inhabitants of Palestine ever since 1968, and have been waiting for the world to speak out and do something. You quite obviously have no historical understanding or perception of what has been going on there, and this, of course, is not your fault entirely, as you are the victim of a lying Jewish controlled media empire whose goal is to obscure the facts on the ground regarding these ongoing, decade after decade series of crimes.
Multi-million dollar Holocaust museums are built with taxpayer funds to commemorate a mere 3 ½ year imprisonment of a people whose leadership in 1933 openly declared war against not only the government of Germany, but the German people themselves. In these so-called “extermination†camps—according to the records of the Italian, French, and British Red Cross, and the Soviet records from KGB archives turned over to Elizabeth Dole by Mikhail Gorbachev in 1991, as well as captured German documents and records—between 282,077 and 373,468 people died from natural causes, the typhus epidemics that swept southern Russia and Eastern Europe in 1944, and starvation from the allied bombing of supply routes to the camps. Among these detention camp fatalities, between 211,558 and 280,101 were Jews. If these camps were actually “extermination†or “death†camps, how come 3.5 million living Jews are now, and have been, collecting Holocaust reparations? Were the Germans really that inefficient? The six million deaths of Jews in German concentration camps is a complete fraud, as both the documents and the forensic examinations have shown. The one million deaths by ‘exposure’ of German POWs in “Eisenhower’s Outdoor Death Camps,†however, are very real, yet instead of also being brought to Nuremberg as a war criminal, Eisenhower got to become president. The reason I bring up the actual number of Jewish fatalities in German detention camps and point out their mere 3 ½ year incarceration in those camps is because we are taught to weep grievously and eternally for the injustices done against innocent Jews in WWII, yet when these same Jews commit a far greater Holocaust for a far greater length of time against the Palestinians and the greater Arab world in the name of that Holocaust fraud, we are taught to remain silent about it and look the other way. Do you know how many Iraqi and Afghan civilians are now dead from this Zionist provoked fake “War on Terror� (~ TWO MILLION)
Do I think the Jewish State of Israel has the right to exist as a Jews-only state? Absolutely not – not on religious grounds, not on genetic or ethnic grounds, not on legal grounds, moral grounds, or any other grounds. Zionism is also yet another fraud. We have been lied to our entire lives. The non-Semitic Zionists are the real anti-Semites, and the Palestinians are the real Semitic people in this whole equation, and that land (the whole of it) legally, morally, and spiritually belongs to them, but they have been forcibly driven from their farms, villages, and towns. Their assets and properties have been seized at gun point by people who are neither Semitic, nor in fact Jewish. The whole “Jewish state of Israel,†like the “Holocaust†which helped to justify it, are complete frauds. The whole world has been suckered into a very dangerous con game which is now about to blow up on itself.
You object to my calling the IDF cowards and bullies for preying daily upon innocent, unarmed civilians for over a 60 year period, and you object to my calling the soldiers of Hizb-allah real men because your Jewish media has completely brainwashed you into thinking that Hizb-allah, and indeed all Arabs are “terrorists,†and that the IDF soldiers are just poor, innocent Jews protecting “their homeland†against these evil crazy Arabs, when in fact, if you educate yourself on the history and reality of this situation, you will find just the opposite to be true. In the Qur’an it is expressly forbidden to attack and oppress unarmed civilians in a war (especially women, children, and the elderly), and the Islamic fighters who battle against Khazarian colonialism in the Middle East indeed follow these precepts of war, as did the great Islamic General, Saladin (Salah al-Din) during the days of the Crusades. The IDF, as you may see for yourself from literally thousands of hours of video footage, follow no such principles. In fact they take great perverse and sadistic pleasure from using civilians, often women and children, as targets and human shields, and they take great pleasure from humiliating and torturing unarmed civilians in their jails and prison camps. In this way, they are bullies and they truly are cowards who follow no civilized principles of combat whatsoever. Israel is a state that has only absolute contempt for the rule of international law and principles of morality, yet their media wants you to believe that they are helpless victims under constant terrorist attack from wild, unprincipled Arab animals. This is why Usama bin Ladin told the world on 9/13 that he was not behind the 9/11 operations, as such an attack upon innocent civilians is completely against the Qur’anic principles of combat, but of course, the Americans do not know these things at all. Mossad blows up your embassies in Africa, kills your Marines in Beirut, and attacks your cities, yet you still think that Israel is your friend and ally, and you fork over all your money to them. How the Zionazis laugh at the stupid, gullible Goyim sheeple. Time for Americans to remove their collective head from inside the ol’ anal cavity, eh?
The Zionists are foreigners and are oppressors carrying out a multi-decade plan of systematic genocide against the Arab peoples, and the Palestinians have every moral right under Heaven to take their lands back by force if necessary and to protect their people from this foreign occupation. The Hizb-allah also have every right to protect their land (Lebanon) from these genocidal monsters and invaders. Are you at all aware of what Israel has been doing in Lebanon over these many years? Do you not know about the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camp massacres carried out under the direction of Israel? Did you not see the Israeli massacres in Qana just two years ago? You should stop weeping for the oppressors and start crying for the victims of this illegitimate Khazarian colonial project. Are you not disturbed or the least bit angry and outraged that Israel has launched about a dozen false flag attacks against America and Britain since 1954? On 9/11 and 7/7, you and your countrymen were not attacked by Arab terrorists, of this I can assure you.
Regarding Gandhian principles of non-violence, I would like to remind you that Gandhi was “fighting†the British. The British are a whole other different animal than these lawless, Zionist white supremacist militants. The British, at least for the most part, during their colonial period had some respect for international laws and codes of moral behaviour, while the Zionists on the other hand feel themselves above ALL laws and principles of normal morality, which only apply to the despised and lesser human entities known as the Goyim.
Regarding the headline I attached to the videos I posted, you need to read a bit more carefully. I said “Wipe the Terror State of Israel Off the Face of the Earth!†Your knee-jerk reaction was similar to that of most TV-fed people who heard the Khomeini statement in which he prayed that the Zionist regime of Israel vanish from the pages of time. Neither he nor I are advocating the destruction of the land or the people who live there, for there are many wonderful and innocent people who reside there (Shlomo Sand for example, and friends of mine), and no one is advocating, as the Zionists actually in fact do, the wiping out of a people or a land. How come you do not cry, or are not disturbed in any way that the “terror regime of Israel†(again, please pay attention to the subtle particularities of the language used in the sentence) advocates on an almost daily basis the nuking of Iran and the slaughtering of the Persian people? Are you not outraged in any way that the Zionist regime has always advocated, right from the start, the eventual genocide of ALL Arabs, who they consider to be animals? Hitler did not have a “Final Solution,†while the Zionist regime, in fact, does. What do you think the so-called “War on Terror†is all about? It is about directing Arab oil via pipeline to Israel AND the genocidal decimation of the Arab and Persian peoples. By attacking America on 9/11 and tricking young American soldiers into doing their genocidal dirty work for them, they get to kill two birds with one stone and keep their hands free of blood at the same time, so as to maintain their precious and highly utilitarian eternal victim status. Such a deal! That is also why they want America to bomb Iran. You die for it, pay for it, and then take the blame for it. Is this not a diabolical and ingeniously devised plan hatched within the inner sanctum of the Biblically described “Synagogue of Satan�
Oh yes, the Israelis certainly do fire “real bullets.†I was simply pointing out that they prefer firing them against people who can’t fire back on them, but when in Lebanon or in Georgia they faced a real army who also fires “real bullets,†they have a tendency to run for the hills because they are not accustomed to taking on real armies and real soldiers, only unarmed civilians. Would they have been such arrogant smirking little bullies if those Palestinian fisherman had rocket launchers and gatling guns on their boats? Probably not. These IDF military advisors in Iraq, for the purpose of inflaming the Americans against the Iraqis, also enjoy snipering and murdering U.S. soldiers from afar, as reported by many GIs in Iraq. Google it! They also enjoy laying Israeli made IEDs in the road in order to blow up U.S. and British troop transports. I hate to say this, but Israel is an international menace and is in fact the true enemy of every civilized nation on earth. 9/11 and all the rest of their false flag ops against America should at least prove that to you.
Let me ask you a simple question along the lines of “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.†If what Israel has done to the Palestinian people on a daily basis since 1947 was done to your people for that same length of time, wouldn’t you be just a bit angry, and wouldn’t you want to fight? If I bulldozed your home into the ground with your grandparents inside, ripped up your ancestral orchards, and made you and your family live in a tent for the rest of your life, wouldn’t you be just a bit angry, and wouldn’t you want to fight? In defense of your family and your country in the face of a real attacker and a real oppressor, are you a man or a mouse? And btw, both Gandhi and Nehru were quite anti-Zionist in their outlook, and both condemned Israel.
For the good of the world, the terror state of racist apartheid Israel needs to be dismantled. The rabbis of Neturei Karta pray for a peaceful dismantlement, but most people feel that this is highly utopian and most unrealistic. I do not like to see the deaths and suffering of any innocent people, Jew or Muslim, but I’m afraid that this terror state will be dismantled by military violence either by Russia or Iran, or both at the same time, and the time for that occurrence is drawing very near. Israel is now engaged in a game of Russian roulette that they have no realistic hope of surviving, yet they continue on their insane path to extinction. You cannot act in the fashion of Israel forever and expect no consequences to be visited upon you because of those actions. The Israelis have brutally demolished the homes of thousands of people, and I’m very afraid that now the moment has come when the Israelis shall see their own homes and cities demolished. Sorry I could not bring you any cheerier news of the world today. My heart is not filled with hatred. It is filled with anguish and compassion, and that is why I become so angry about these injustices. I hope you will try to understand the reality of this very horrible situation. Whatever you or I may write, feel or think, there is nothing that either of us can do to stop this now, for the fates have sealed what is about to happen next. Peace.
Rah-rah, Laz. (Now you have one 'cheerleader'.)
So scrubby's comment is no longer completely of the mark. You took the words right out of my mouth. I find apathy (and PC bullshit) much more offensive than anything you've said.
Peace be with you my Scrubby brother
Scrubby,
I don’t want to offend you or fight with you because I like you. Besides, there are way too many other people to fight with who really need to be fought. I know that you are on the cutting edge of political understanding, otherwise you wouldn’t hang here. I spent a lot of time during the last couple of days (time which I can no longer afford due to the beginning of another academic season, and I must also get back to my “Wired for Terror†project, as well as a non-political research project I’m actually getting paid for) trying to make myself perfectly and unambiguously clear about the things I have written and why I wrote them. It seems however, and I guess this is due to the subjectivity of language coupled with high emotion, that you have misinterpreted or misunderstood nearly everything I have written here. None of this has anything to do with macho-ness or “my gun is bigger than yours,†nor is it about hatred of “Jews†or “you’re either with my anger or you’re with the Zionists.†I also do not recommend sticking a gun in your pants for obvious safety reasons, and as far as pissing people off (watch that profanity!), this entire website and every comment and article on it pisses off not only the Fascist PTB, but the various “leaders†of the mainstream 9/11 half-truth movement as well. We have managed to piss off just about everybody in every camp, from Mike Delaney to Alex Jones to Allan Giles and Jon Gold. Everybody hates us (well maybe not Professor Barrett), and I’m sure that I do not have a very large and friendly fan base out there either. I know Gretavo doesn’t either. ;)
In hindsight, I also was not directing my vitriol directly at you personally, although it did appear that way. It just really ticks me off when every time someone directs a load of anger at the monstrous actions of Israel (the polity), the subject of Jew hatred comes up and everyone always retorts, “so, you don’t accept Israel’s right to exist?,†etc., etc. No one ever asks them, “so, you don’t think the Palestinians and the Arabs and the Persians have the right to exist?†And what, other than the fable of “the Exodus,†gives these Turkic Ashkenazim faux Jews the idea that they have the right to emigrate to Palestine, brutalize its inhabitants, and steal their land? At this point, I am so tired of “Israel,†its lies, its crimes, its arrogant supremacist attitudes, and its hypocritical double standards, but doubly tired at those (and I’m not referring to you) who defend it, or feel it is inappropriate or unjustified to direct molten hot rage at it with all the profanity that one can muster. A country that behaves like Israel, which has been the violent aggressor and oppressor since Day One should be prepared to accept whatever hatred and violence comes its way. If they don’t like it, then they should start behaving like civilized human beings, and stop trying to alter the reality of their crimes by covering them over with more lying public relations campaigns. At this stage in history, PR ain’t gonna help the situation a bit. A serial killer who hires a PR firm to make things better is just laughably sad and ridiculous.
And as far as macho-ness goes, all I was trying to point out was that an army which is accustomed to bullying at will a civilian population will be unable to fight another army on the ground, any army. All bullies are cowards, and their actions merely demonstrate how truly psychologically fucked up these folks really are. For example, if your idea of combat and military dominance is measured by how hard you can punch your little sister in the arm, and then you go and try to take on Jesse Ventura one on one, you will be surprised at how fast you will get your ass kicked. Punch, counter-punch, and ... fight over, 1, 2, and 3. This, in a nutshell, is the situation with the IDF. The IDF is also an army that morally fights on the wrong side of things. The whole country of Israel exists on the wrong side of the track, and on the wrong side of History. God also hates an arrogant bully, and Israel is about to get its lights punched out. Although in the beginning of the Gospels the figure of Yeshua (Jesus) comes as a messenger of peace, forgiveness, and love, and at his crucifixion his blood falls upon the robes of his tormentors, at the time of the End, however, he is depicted as riding on a white horse and carrying a large sword, and at that time the blood of the tormentors of humanity fall upon his robes as he slays them. The meek shall inherit the earth, but only after the wicked and the haughty have been crushed and turned back into dust. I grew up as a peace and love flower child with Donovan records, and all the rest, and there is a time for peace and love, and non-violence, but now, I’m afraid is not that time. You cannot make peace with a demon who will not put his sword down. The demon must be slain for peace to reign. It is the way of the world and always has been. This time shall be no different. Gandhi ji is also coming back and this time he’s armed to the teeth. No more “Mr. Nice Guy.†Namaste, time to die motherfucker... Oh shit, I broke my no profanity vow. Oh well, there’s always next time. Sorry.
what there is to learn...
I'm going to try not to lecture or moralize here... but! But... what can we learn from this? I don't think it makes sense or is even right to deny the anger that rightfully exists against those who commit atrocities systematically. It is especially important not to trivialize the anger of those most directly affected. Where we are on much slippier territory is when we as would be activists and world changers allow ourselves the luxury of indulging in that anger. Especially those of us who already are pushing buttons that in themselves are powerful and unsettling. There's some Jewish saying here (rabbinic, I think) about pushing away with one hand and drawing in with the other, i.e. use the stick AND the carrot. Maybe I'm trying too hard to find a middle ground here. But part of me is totally with Scrubby in feeling that Laz has on occasion (this one in particular) stepped over some lines. At the same time, there's something (maybe dangerously) appealing about having to "hold someone back" just to show that you mean business. But then maybe feeling that way is a side effect of not seeing as much progress as we would like to. I dunno. I also think that casting Russia as noble is problematic. It just doesn't seem likely to me that, however right they may be when opposing one or another things that the US or Israel do, theirs is a distinctly good government. Behaving better than some? SSure, for now, and only so far as I know. But I personally would rather not take sides...