"Nafeez Ahmed is a Genuine (sic) Muslim"
As someone (edit: Keenan!) predicted, Cass and RT's appearance on Kevin Barrett's show last week was finally incorporated into the 10+ page thread "Kevin Barrett Promoting Disinfo Fest 2007" (or something) thread over at truthaction.org. (An alternative title I considered for this blog is "Slow on the Uptake".) I'll have more to add later, but for now I just wanted to point out this supremely bigoted comment from user chrisc over there:
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chrisc
Joined: 25 Sep 2007
Posts: 664
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: What a load of shite Reply with quote
Arabesque wrote:
claiming that Barrett was banned for being a "Muslim" is slander.
Yeah, it's total nonsense, Reprehensor has probably posted more content from Nafeez Ahmed (a genuine muslim) on the site than anyone, eg:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2966
http://www.911blogger.com/node/9801
http://www.911blogger.com/node/3225
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Note to chrisc: religion is a system of beliefs and spiritual practice, not a genetically determined characteristic like, say, skin color. Islam, Christianity, Buddhism and other religions provide a basis for conversion (known to Muslims as reversion) and their own standards for determining who a "real (blank)" is. Clearly, you have Ahmed's identity as a person of color mixed up with his religion (and frankly, I'm not even sure that he identifies as a Muslim although I suspect he does). One might even say this is a conflation of the two identities that stems from an unconscious racism.
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Nice catch. yea...
I think that was me who predicted you two would make it to the Slow On The Uptake...er...Kevin Barret Promoting Disinfo Fest 2007 thread. Again, they dishonestly pretend that merely mentioning a name or theory is the same thing as giving fair treatment to said name or theory within open discussions (of which are increasingly anything but open) on these 9/11 forums. Like Jon Gold saying, "Hey, we talk about controlled demolition all the time on 911Blogger, so you can't say that we censor anything about controlled demolition here!"
Wow, we're such a pointless distraction
and waste of time that they just can't shut up about us over there. And no, calling people racist is NOT libel or slander. However, suggesting that I was involved in making weird psy-op videos attacking myself when I did not, is libelous. That's because there is an objective standard to determine whether it is true or not (either I was involved or I was not and your "opinion" is secondary or irrelevant) whereas we can argue all day about whether someone's actions constitute racism.
And again, we see the recurring motif of disagreeing with Jon Gold and/or being critical of him when you were at one time his friend is "stabbing him in the back." FYI, I disagree with and am critical of my very best friends all the time -- for me, permission to do that is one of the most important parts of friendship.
911blogger does not ban people for being muslims...
They ban people for not hating muslims (and arabs) enough to continue to accuse them of crimes they did not commit. If you don't want to accuse them you must still refrain from defending them from those who do like Jon Gold, who has been YouTubing up a storm with all kinds of baseless charges against Saudis, Pakistanis, and African Americans. He thanks Justin Martell the Fourteenth, founder of the defunct Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth for his help on his latest hate screed veiled as "9/11 truth". These are the new Nazis, weaving intricate conspiracy myths to defame an entire group of people who have already been maliciously targeted and continue to be murdered in great numbers. None of this is libel, these are facts. There are people on 911Blogger who have no interest in the truth, only in damage control and deflecting suspicion from the real perpetrators.
that little crowd is becoming quite the circus!
Arabesque, Jon Gold, JohnA(lbanese), Col. Jenny Sparks, DemBruceLeeStyles... combined I would guess they could correctly spell maybe 8 out of every 10 words they write and MAYBE successfully set the time on a VCR. None of them has contributed anything worth squat, except to the effort to hold everyone back from the real truth. Promoting anti-Arab and muslim LIHOP theories with absolutely no new or convincing evidence since the pork chop wire transfer, continuing to stress the importance of warnings of things that didn't happen (arab muslim hijackings), promoting ridiculous "buy 20 copies of a piece of crap paperback that promotes LIHOP" scampaigns, blathering about insane and obviously wrong "truthers" like Nico Haupt and his no-planers, encouraging people to waste time engaging and responding to dishonest "debunkers", conducting drunken internet interviews, producing and promoting the crappiest of crappy films like Everyboddy's Gotta Learn LIHOP, posturing as "feel good" supporters of families and first responders--my god this could go on and on. Recognizing their dwindling credibility they resort to the very libel they accuse others of, saying literally that we here admire Hitler and the Nazis and are trying to improve his image and a slew of other cheap gimmicks. If they still think anyone actually respects or believes them it is undoubtedly because everyone now knows that disagreeing with them gets you banned from any sites where they ply their disinformation trade. They have been totally exposed, though, and have been reduced to griping out loud about the people they had to kick off their fake sites, all the while trying desperately to compensate for all the holes we've poked in their charade by following up every criticism of ours with something--anything--they can point to later as proof that we are wrong. I know very well that they read everything we write here and that the fact that we have and will continue to out them is something that they simply don't have the talent or ability to deal with. These are the dregs of the cover-up that we are dealing with here... Behold them in all their pathetic glory!
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&start=225
What was it Neitzschi said?
Something like - Real Truther's lie only to themselves, Liars lie not only to themselves, but to others as well. (paraphrasing big-time.)