Good find Reprehensor.
I haven’t read much into Hopsicker or Emory.
What do you know about them and their take on 9.11?
It is interesting to hear their take on the other elements of 9.11 that I have never even heard of.

_ I avoided criticizing his 9/11 research until I had read “Crossing the Rubicon” which, if it’s not the worst book I’ve ever read, it’s tied for worst_

ouch.

“Hopsicker: And the whole point of that conference was to pump up Mike Ruppert. Who was the main speaker, like, the two nights and one day I was there. And Mike Ruppert is the biggest charlatan I’ve ever come across. Mike Ruppert took all of the attention associated with questioning about 9/11 a couple years after the attack, and delivered nothing… a 600 page door-stop. Peak Oil! Peak Oil!”

When will people understand that Ruppert is a Sep11 gatekeeper and a complete useless fucktard.

“Mike Ruppert took all of the attention associated with questioning about 9/11 a couple years after the attack, and delivered nothing… a 600 page door-stop. Peak Oil! Peak Oil!”

Exactly and before he wrote “Crossing the Rubicon” he said on his website that anyone who questioned the offical version of Sep11 was a “Conspiracy nut” and “Should just shut the fuck up”, until of course his handlers figured out that his Sep11 stance hampered his spreading of the Peak Oil gospel. Then when the first big conference about Sep11 came up he used his position as keynote speaker not to delve into Sep11 but to entirely push his Peak Oil theory. I dont understand why anyone even listens to his pathetic lying ass.

Yeah, the 9/11 BS movement has absolutely worked as a very effective element of coverup

word.

“September 11th and not mentioning the Muslim Brotherhood, is precisely the same as writing a 600 plus page book about WWII and not mentioning the Nazis”

Seeing that the Muslim Brotherhood was created and run by British Intelligence as a tool to control and stagnate the advancement of Arab countries Im not sure what point they are trying to make, unless its that it was the British that were behind Sep11.

Peak Oil — a hyped-out distraction when it comes to 9/11. I won’t even go there. Every time I look at the “symptoms”, I see politics and lies.

Muslim Brotherhood — a very important organization to study. Wombat’s description is pretty good. There’s all sorts of stuff out there tying the Muslim Brotherhood and Middle Eastern jihadis in general directly to London and UK intelligence. Peter Dale Scott and Sander Hicks have both written some cool stuff about the situation.

Adnan Khashoggi — an extremely important figure to study, when it comes to intelligence matters in the last 3 decades. Khashoggi, according to PD Scott, is part of a powerful billionaire’s club that controls a great deal of the world’s drug traffic, not to mention illegal arms sales. Calling them the Meta-Drug Group, Scott claims he has information that they were involved in the Russian version of 9/11. The Group interacts with Western intelligence (CIA) and possibly even Russian intel. Having a lot of money, goons, and elite contacts throughout the world, the Group is basically outside the law and able to set up events, on behalf of others, that could change the world.

I respect Hopsicker’s opinions. As for my opinions on 9/11,

1. I’m not sure if demolition occurred at the trade center buildings, but I’m open to update. Let’s just say, it’s a thing I’m still looking into, because there’s a lot of controversy and gov’t cover-up/disinfo regarding the buildings.
2. I believe Flight 77 probably did crash into the Pentagon and the government is encouraging theories that say otherwise.
3. I have no idea if the 4 planes flew via remote control. Some evidence/testimony suggests some hijackers could have done it. Others suggest they couldn’t.
4. Flight 93 seems like a distraction, regardless of what happened to it.
5. I don’t believe that Israelis were behind this tragedy. Such a claim is protective disinfo.
6. I’m sure elites in the USGov let it all happen, at a number of levels. FBI, INS, NORAD, CIA, etc..
7. I think some of the screechier conspiratorial theories are disinformation.

“ but most of its major tenets, such as controlled demolition of the World Trade Center, and a cruise missile hit the Pentagon,”

smear smear smear, what I dont’ get is hopsicker Wrote for FTW. Why is he getting all hateful of Ruppert now?

“When will people understand that Ruppert is a Sep11 gatekeeper and a complete useless fucktard.”
I don’t see how he is a gatekeeper. The only conclusion he pushes on you is peak oil. Everything else you can decide for yourself from the evidence.

“Exactly and before he wrote “Crossing the Rubicon” he said on his website that anyone who questioned the offical version of Sep11 was a “Conspiracy nut” and “Should just shut the fuck up”, until of course his handlers figured out that his Sep11 stance hampered his spreading of the Peak Oil gospel. Then when the first big conference about Sep11 came up he used his position as keynote speaker not to delve into Sep11 but to entirely push his Peak Oil theory. I dont understand why anyone even listens to his pathetic lying ass.”

-How does this take out his credibility on 911? 911 is his cash cow, that is how he gets the word out, so if he handles it well, more people will hear his “peak oil gospel”.

If anything this line of reasoning makes him more credible.

RUPPERT DOES NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT
NOT

NOT

MAKE CLAIMS OF CONTROLLED DEMOLITION AND CRUISE MISSILES HITTING THE PENTAGON.

hopsicker’s conversation is half truths twisted.

I do find the ommission of the muslim brotherhood disturbing, but he addressed a vast breadth of issues. One cannot scold him because he left that out. It is “opening up a can of worms” to bring up the nazi/muslim brotherhood links.

Robert Baer says (in frontpage mag[of course a superpatriot right wing source{which for some reason is the only citations you can find on the muslim brotherhood/nazi connection}]).
you should google: “muslim brotherhood” and “nazi” and “banna”
link

“Yeah, the 9/11 BS movement has absolutely worked as a very effective element of coverup”
sensibilly sez: “word.”

Dude sensiblly just because it attaches negative connotations to a specific sect of the 9/11 truth movement doesn’t mean you should agree with it. You basically just conceded that the attacks were carried out by nazis and synarchist bankers, and the neo-cons are patsies.

“And the point of that was, to make the government’s story look good. Because you have on the one end, people talking about “Well, it really didn’t happen, it was a hologram”, uhm, “There weren’t any hijackers on the planes, apparently people’s throats were getting cut by remote control”, and you compare that ridiculous crap with the government’s story, and the government’s story looks good!”

-strawman

claiming Peak oil is BS in the same smear!!!

So he must know how much oil is left in saudi arabia!

“but most of its major tenets, such as controlled demolition of the World Trade Center, and a cruise missile hit the Pentagon, are physically impossible”

How? Hard, but hardly impossible!

I dont know what Hopsicker is pissed off about. Him getting to little stage light?
Ruppert not collaborating with him? I dont know!

I have a creeping feeling Hopsicker is a FBI creation. I think a lot of his work rings true but is planted halftruths.

Peak Oil has a great deal to do with US foreign interest due to the Petro Dollar set up. It puts pressure on the aspiring superstates like China and Russia to 1: control the energy industry and 2: to stop trading in dollars to weaken US economy.

Call it whatever you want but oil and the world dollar reserve are still the issues.

hobo2alpha,

Emory believes that indeed a vast conspiracy exists, and that it consists of an “Underground Reich” that is the hidden hand behind 9/11 and some other terror incidents. I have to admit that I have learned some things from listening to Emory’s program… this list of PDFs is a remarkable resource. I’m paraphrasing, but Emory has said, roughly; “Imagine if Adolf Hitler was the President of the United States when September 11th happened..” and that sums up how he views things, more or less.

However, it should be noted that Emory bought the Iraq WMD fiasco hook, line and sinker. If you have the intestinal fortitude to wade through the archives, you’ll see what I mean. It makes for interesting background noise at work.

Here’s Alex Constantine’s not-so-pleasant take on Emory. I don’t know if his stance has changed on this.

Hopsicker is the only on-the-ground researcher cataloging the history of Mohamed Atta in Florida. His research has led him to conclude that the FBI is engaged in a massive cover-up down there, and that the FBI’s timeline regarding Atta is seriously flawed. Because he is the only person with his nose-to-the-ground in Florida, he is a primary citation for many 9/11 researchers.

The indications are (relying on Hopsicker’s research) that Atta and co were drug runners. Al-Cokeda, if you will.

This does suggest a relationship to PDScott’s notion of Deep Politics, and by throwing Khashoggi’s name in the ring, it opens up a much wider tableau.

Of course the relationship between the Mujahadin, CIA, ISI, and Afghanistan’s opium crop is nothing to sneeze at, and perhaps Florida is a manifestation of that.

A majority of the alleged hijackers (1) came into the United States through the US Consulate in Jeddah, a place that the former chief of the visa section there describes as a virtual CIA visa-mill for mujahadin, “What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA.” Link

So, the CIA knew exactly who these guys were and what they were all about. The DIA clearly tracked them via ABLE DANGER. Now Hopsicker has shown that the FBI is obfuscating, telling lies, covering something up. Add Nafeez Ahmed’s research into the mix, and it can be logically inferred that;

[Al-Qaeda] has no existence as an independent concrete entity. It designates a highly developed category of Western covert operations designed to secure destabilization through the creation, multiplication, mobilization, and manipulation of disparate mujahideen groups. The evidence suggests that this was certainly the case on 9-11. Link.

With the CIA as the tie that binds.

But citizenspook got me thinking. Barrie Zwicker got me thinking even more. Then I learned about the Alinsky Method.

Now re-read the main blog entry.

(To be fair, here is Hopsicker’s other work to date on “COINTELPRO 9.11” for consideration, chronologically;)

COINTELPRO 9.11 – Peak Oil & ‘The Level Above Saudi’

(Note that in this first article, he links to Fintan Dunne’s BreakForNews website, here he riots in tact! The irony is too great, even for me.)

COINTELPRO 9.11 – John Gray and Saudi Genesis

COINTELPRO 9.11 pt III: Khashoggi, Cults, Cover-ups & Mars & Venus Doing Lunch

COINTELPRO 9.11: San Diego Witness Death Threat

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1. PDF, 4mb: http://www.9-