and what about the Christians of the Near East?

kate of the kiosk's picture

happened upon this: 

 

"...We have received far more support and comfort from the Hezbollah in Lebanon than from our fellow Christians in the West,” remarked one Christian Palestinian refugee in Damascus. “I want to know, why don’t the Christians in the West do anything to help us? Are the teachings of Jesus nothing but empty slogans to them?”

This is a justified and important question, but the answer is not straightforward. The Catholic Church has, in fact, long argued for an end to the Israeli occupation and for improvement of the Palestinians’ situation. The leaders of the Eastern Orthodox churches have taken similar, often more strongly worded positions. Likewise, many Lutheran and Calvinist churches run organizations and programs that seek to ease the suffering of the Palestinians and draw attention to the injustices with which they are faced. Usually working within strictly religious frames of reference, however, their impact on the political situation has been minimal.

This political limitation has not applied to those parts of the Evangelical movement that have adopted Zionism as a core element of their religious doctrine. Christian Zionists in the U.S. are currently organized in an alliance with the pro-Israel lobby and the neoconservative elements of the Republican Party,....."

http://www.amconmag.com/2004_05_24/article.html

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gretavo's picture

problem is...

that "end the occupation" is a limited hangout of sorts. it means usually leave the west bank and gaza. it legitimizes the existence of some kind of exclusively "Jewish" (but not really) state that was formed in a wholly inappropriate and unjust manner. I'm much more keen on Neturei Karta's view on the subject which is that we should hope and pray for the peaceful dismantlement of the Zionist state.

Lazlo Toth's picture

The Eastern Church, John Adams, & Rabbi W.

Just another potpourri commentary...

Often, Christians in the West fail to appreciate that Christianity started off as an “Eastern religion.” The history of the Syriac and Mesopotamian churches is a fascinating study well worth undertaking, and some of the Syriac/Aramaic liturgy and mystical poetry is quite beautiful and elevating. On the subject of Western Christianity taking on Zionist apartheid, the Presbyterian churches of Canada, last time I heard, are still maintaining an Israeli boycott and portfolio divestment program. I suppose this is all like small butterflies flapping their wings, hoping to create a storm, but everything counts, as we know from fractal mathematics. There is a verse I remember reading in the Qur’an which gives hope to the righteous by saying that even if you fight the forces of evil and injustice, but do not seem to be winning, “the G-d” (al-Lah) sees your noble efforts and takes note of them. On the other side of the coin, The G-d also takes note of the acts of the wicked and gives them all the rope they want, by which they shall hang themselves in the end. The wicked do their works, and seeing that no Higher Power stops them, they fall prey to the Grand Illusion that there will be no reckoning, and that they shall answer for nothing after death. That is the trick behind the most seamless of illusions. The Great Spirit wants to see if you will do good just for the sake of doing good, hence the illusion that there is no G-d or post-mortem reckoning. The wicked think they are pretty damn slick, but there is One who is oh so much slicker than they. “All around the universe, from coast to coast, (S)He’s slicker than most, slicker than most.”

Hey Kate, I am so glad you got to see the John Adams movie. Yes, it is quite excellent. It also drove home the point, which I found very sad, that to work for a cause far greater your own self entails a lot of personal sacrifice. John Adams had to sacrifice himself for the revolution and leave aside, for so many years, the normal life of family, friends, and living a peaceful agrarian existence. This is an aspect of the American Founding Fathers that no one ever thinks about. That is why a revolution is called a “struggle.” You must fight the external, stronger, better-equipped forces arrayed against you, as well as the weakness, laziness, and fears within. It is sad to sometimes see that foreigners often revere and appreciate the revolutionary founders of America more than the Americans do. Hopefully there will be a revolution of reassessment and revived appreciation. In order to win, the NWO must break down your patriotism and national pride. Don’t give in and don’t give up. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Concerning the Neturei Karta vision, unfortunately, the “peaceful dismantlement of the state of Israhell is also a pipe dream and ain’t gonna happen. Nice idea though. A state possessing 150-400 nuclear warheads and supported by the unlimited funds of the global central banking system is not going to go quietly into that good night. G-d sees the noble works of Rabbi Weiss and his crew anyway you shake it. And G-d Bless Real Truther!