The Big Anti-Semitism Con Game

The only thing I think you people ignore is a book called the Talmud and its influence on Jews against Zionism.
As concerned people we should try to expose that book to the Jewish people and ask them if they really believe in that anti everything book.
Jews against Zionism have a devotion to that book, and it makes me wonder.

[c455 says: This is right on the publish/don't publish line. Evidently, I can't repeat often enough that ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS CONTAIN SOME BULLSHIT, and we need to judge people on their behavior and the way they practice their religions rather than making assumptions about their relationship to said bullshit. Check out the "Malleus Maleficarum" for a stunning example of Christian bullshit -- which led to mass murders of marginalized people in Christian Europe. Do I think all Christians subscribe to that material? Of course not.]

> the Khazarian conversion that some people swear is yet another invention of anti-semites

It's not an invention of "anti-semites," but it is a false theory promoted by Arthur Koestler. Koestler tried to weave an argument to the effect that the majority of Jews in the world today are Khazarian descendants. That can be rejected on both genetic and historical grounds. The real Khazarians were Turko-Asiatic and would have been readily distinguishable from Europeans, much as blacks and whites are distinguishable. Jewish communities grew rather prominent in England starting from the Norman Conquest in the 11th century and were eventually driven into exile in the 13 century. Similar exiles occurred in Spain and Portugal a few centuries later. All available accounts point to the fact the Jewish populations in these countries looked very much like the other natives, and this fueled the tensions because of the thought that a self-seeking Jew might be able to look like anyone else. If all of these inhabitants were reall descendants of 9th century Khazarians then things would not have occurred this way. Apart from that, genetic tests have verified common traits between Palestinians and Jews living elsewhere. Ashkenazi Jews have been traced to a group of about 4 women as common ancestors, all on the basis of common genetic traits. That's another reason why the Khazarian model would be unworkable when applied to the Jews who achieved prominence in Britain between the 11th and 13 centuries. All available data shows that, while a steady trickle of intermarriage between Jew and non-Jew has continued across the millenia, the strongest pressures exist for Jews to [reproduce] with other Jews. It would require a very ra[id inter-marriage rate for an almost wholly Turko-Asiatic populace to [produce] enough European-looking Jews as to be able to blend in among the English as they did. "Crypto-Jew" is a concept from the Spanish Inquisition which only makes sense for a Jewish population which does not have readily identifiable physical characteristics, as pure Turko-Asiatics would.

> the important role played by Russian Jews in the overthrow of the Tsars and the rise of the communist state

Who on earth has ever doubted that fact? What is a Right-wing myth is the fable that the revolution was engineered from abroad and that the Whites were somehow representative of "native" Russians. It's well-documented that the Whites were despised by the majority of Russians who consistently sought for a revolutionary outcome of some type. As intellectuals Jews were more likely to gravitate towards the revolutionary movement in Russia, simply because under a Christian monarchy like Czarist Russia there other better opportunities available to educated Gentiles. The majority of the people who carried out the Russian revolution were uneducated Gentiles. Their role was central, but not as many of them were likely to rise quickly to an administrative role as was an educated Jew who supported the revolution.

> and how that role transmuted almost directly into militant zionism

This is a good example of the errors which a religious ideologue (which is what Jews against Zionism are) can easily make. One could just as easily argue that Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton are responsible for the rise of the Holocaust industry. It was the scientific revolution started by these men which broke the power of the Christian aristocracy that once ruled Europe and hence made the rise of Jews possible. From the point of view of Jews Against Zionism, all influences which moved Jews away from the Torah are to be amalgamated together insofar as any atheistic influence undermines the religion.

There were a lot of different types of atheistic movements which sprang up in eastern Europe in the 19th century as people wanted to get away from a crappy lifestyle which the Torah and related religious texts had imposed on them. Religious Jews used to segregate themselves off into ghettoes where people were known to defecate in the streets (this observation was reported by US army officers in the early 1920s while aid was being administered to Poland). The old brand of Torah-lifestyle created enormous pressures for young Jews to seek a way out of this. Liberalism, a variety of brands of Leftism which included Marxism, and Zionism, were all part of this attempt to get out of the old ghetto life. But other than such a generic pattern of breaking from away from an anachronistic way of life, there isn't much of a connection to be drawn between Zionism and the other modes atheistic thought which grew in this time-period.

Jews Against Zionism has a tendency to overstate the role of "atheism" as an influence which moves people away from their brand of True Torah Judaism. Go back and review the cases of Jews in Spain, England or Portugal in the events surrounding their exiles. None of these groups of Jews driven into exile could be classed as "atheistic," since atheism as a view of the world didn't really come into being until Isaac Newton & Co. launched the scientific revolution. But the majority of prominent members of those exiled Jewish communties were very different from Jews Against Zionism. Here again JAZ is amalgamted all forms of Judaims which do not fit with their view of the Torah into a common whole with "atheism," much as they amalgamate different forms of atheistic ideology together (e.g. Marxism and Zionism).

It's an interesting phenomenon to see some anti-Zionist groups of Jews gaining wider publicity. But one should remain wary of how such a religious outlook can distort the presentation of key historical events.

[c455 says: please do not use the word "breed" to refer to human beings.]

and being informed on these things does take a lot of study and hard mental work. Understanding history is oftentimes difficult and labourious, but in the end, is well worth the trouble. It can also be extremely enlightening, and that is probably why we engage in such studies. I appreciate and congratulate you on the intellectual efforts you have exerted in these areas of study so that you might educate your fellow citizens on these little discussed and often wholly misunderstood, yet important subjects.

I also have tread a similar path of inquiry and research, a path I had no idea I would even travel down, and one from which I thought, in moments of weakness, it might be wise to reverse directions on. Back in early 2003, my son started sending me articles about 9/11 research that were being published in alternative newspapers, and we went from the notions of 9/11 as U.S. foreign policy “blowback” to “Bush knocked down the towers” to uh oh, it looks like Israel is involved in this, to oh my God, Israel and the neo-cons inside the USG actually pulled this whole thing off to frame the Islamic Middle East and start WWIII. Of course, in order to understand 9/11 in its proper framework, without succumbing to the simplistic notion of “the Jews did 9/11,” I began a complicated assessment of histories and ideologies which were completely outside of my normal fields of research and intellectual activity. So now it became a matter of understanding what Zionism, as opposed to Judaism, was and understanding the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, and the detailed history of Zionist terrorism, patterns of behaviour and ideological development, and all the rest. Of course, I am very much like you, in that if someone says don’t read that book, don’t research that taboo topic, or don’t talk to such and such person, I will immediately try to find out why such prohibitions are being pushed on me. I’m one of those people who just have to find out for myself what is going on. This, of course, brought me to the subject of Ernst Zundel and the taboo of Holocaust revisionist history, which led to more “uh oh moments” (that is an excellent article btw by Barbara Kulaszka which someone posted here). I am also one of those folks who likes to know the truth, no matter how disturbing. I would rather understand the ugly truth than live in a pink cotton candy illusion of lies. I hate being manipulated or conned through lack of knowledge, and hate being lied to about things which are vital to understand. This is why I am spending my free, fun down time, spare time, vacation time, putting together this “Wired for Terror” project. It is very complicated and subtle, but someone has to do it, so I guess I volunteered for the project. I began thinking that Zionism and Zionists were one big happy, homogeneous ideological group, and in the process of study, found out that it is way more subtle and complicated. For example, aside from the usual left-wing, right-wing divisions of Labour Zionism and Revisionist Zionism, there are left-wing, right-wing divisions right down to the farthest, most militant groups of the right-wing itself. The “mainstream” right-wing Revisionist movement considered the Irgun, or IZL, to be too extreme, and then the IZL considered the LeHI, or Stern Gang, to be even more extreme right-wing than they were, but then even within this most extreme militant group, the LeHI, there were “moderate” and “extremist” divisions, which I will be discussing in PART THREE. It is like one of those multi-layered Russian dolls. Of course, why worry about, or concern ourselves with those long-gone, in the past terrorists and Judeo-Fascist extremists, for the State of Israel was ultimately founded by “mainstream,” pro-British moderates like David Ben Gurion and Chaim Weizmann. Unfortunately, the extremists and “the crazies” gradually made a big comeback and ideologically triumphed over the moderates, which brings us back full circle to modern 21st century Israel, the reasons for the intifada, and the 9/11-war on terror thingie. Who would have known that to understand 9/11 would require understanding the connections between Theodor Herzl’s “Der Judenstaat,” the Balfour Declaration, WWI, WWII, the holocaust, the Hebrew underground in Palestine, etc., etc.?

On the whole Khazarian “controversy,” our earliest source on this story of King Bulan and his people converting to Judaism c. 740 CE comes from the renowned 12th century Jewish philosopher and poet Judah Halevi, who described the whole conversion narrative in his work Sefer ha-Kuzari (The Book of the Kuzari [Khazars]), which was translated into English by H. Hirschfeld in 1945. There is also the Arthur Koestler book on this subject, The Thirteenth Tribe. Hasdai ibn Shaprut supposedly conducted a correspondence in Hebrew with the Khazar king, Joseph. In the 11th century, the Duke of Kiev conquered the Khazar kingdom in southern Russia, and the people, who were now practicing Jews for some 300 years, began a real Jewish Exodus into eastern, and eventually, western Europe. Hungarian Catholic history also speaks of the Khazars, whom Catholics were forbidden to marry. This is not myth or “anti-Semitic” history. This is actually real history. Just because we were not taught this history in high school doesn’t mean it did not happen. On the other hand, sometimes it seems that most of the history we were taught in high school either did not happen, or we were given a highly circumscribed version of things which did occur.

On the subject of the Talmud, if you really want to see what is contained in it (the Babylonian Talmud, as opposed to the Jerusalem Talmud), most of which has nothing to do with the four or five “anti-Goyim” injunctions it has become infamous for among online bloggers who have never read it, you may read the whole thing (all 30 volumes) in English ONLINE at this URL:

http://www.ziopedia.org/books/judaism/the_babylonian_talmud_%28complete_...

If you like reading lots and lots of detailed, nitpicky rules and regulations about stuff no one in the modern world really gives a damn about, then this is the multi-volume set for you. Good bedtime reading for the chronic insomniac. I would rather read Jack Kerouac any day.