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Chris's picture

who is this? pretty good

who is this? pretty good stuff. i pretty much cant stand rap at this point except for Immortal Technique and Nas. its all empty, popped out crap now. by the way Lazlo, I gave my mom a copy of your "Wired for Terror" piece and she was blown away. said she finally understands what happened on 9/11. make a movie already man,we need it! haha

gretavo's picture

agreed, great video, but...

apparently the guy that made it is a Prothinker who posted on the video on youtube that he wishes he hadn't included the anti-Zionist Jews because according to him they are a distraction and a controlled opposition. Now I'm sure there is a grain of truth to that but at the same time I don't see it as a reason to dismiss them. We may not like the Talmud and the racism in it, but like every religion there are associated texts that modern practitioners don't necessarily take seriously. And when you have modern practitioners who are sane enough to speak out against Zionism, I think you can cut them some slack and not condemn them for what those tradiotional texts say. Like it or not, all of these religions are here to stay and we are best off trying to encourage them to see their traditions through a more enlightened lens than telling them that they believe a bunch of crap. Ultimately people who devote themselves to spiritual pursuits no matter how strange to us are not going to be anywhere near as dangerous to others as people who don't believe in anything themselves but are happy to manipulate those who do into hating each other so that they can promote profitable wars. The Prothinkers need to temper their enthusiasm for anti-Zionism with some appreciation for the real complexities inherent in Judaism, and not be the anti-Jewish equivalent of the promoters of Islamophobia. I say this in the full knowledge that Prothink is one of the few sites that link to this site and that we routinely get a few hits from their site, which I certainly don't have a problem with. If they simply start soundling like Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmid then knwoingly or not they too will be "controlled opposition" in effect if not intent.

Chris's picture

i certaintly dont dismiss

i certaintly dont dismiss or condemn them, but as you say its a fine line when it comes to controlled opposition. a certain credibilty has to be built up for it to be effective. like with anything in this line of activism/research etc. you have to take everything with a grain of salt. i dont know what it says about me, but just like in my personal life i pretty much dont trust anybody,haha. but i do take issue with one thing you said as an agnostic, and one who finds that "spiritual" people throughout history have proven to be quite dangerous themselves. im not sure if being spiritual makes one more or less dangerous.

gretavo's picture

oh, but the artist, I dunno--Khanverse?

n/t

Jpass's picture

prothink racist trash...

Prothink.org
The form and art of usery, of which the Jewish community are so professional at, that is not Zionism."

It gets better.

Prothink.org
"The fact that the community (Jews) have been kicked out of countries hundreds of times...that's not Zionism."

This guy is a dipshit. I posted this video a month or more ago and still...prothink.org pops-up at wtcdemolition.com.

If Israel were involved in the attacks of 9/11...would there not be an operation to discredit those places like WTCDemolition.org who focus on that part of the investigation? Would not the idea be to paint any opposition as racist Jew haters?

I know some might say that I'm overly sensitive here. That the video only mentioned Prothink.org at the end and that the video was what is important. Bullshit.

Prothink.org is racist trash. If the maker of this video can't see that...then...well it says a lot about the maker of the video.

Has the creator of this video listened to the prothink.org 'founder' preach the real truth about the Jews? No...not Zionists...but the sneaky Jewish community at large.

According to prothink.org, the sneaky Jews have been kicked out of countries hundreds of times...it must mean something is inherently wrong with this kaniving community right?

What alarms me is not that prothink.org exists. More alarming is that someone who has apparently put in tons of 9/11 related research (Lazlo Toth) and seems to be a quite respected poster here at WtCDemolition.com, would post a video that pushes prothink.org.

Listen to this f#@$ing moron...and notice his sarcastic 'i'm not racist' disclaimer a few minutes in.


Jpass's picture

Prothinktown? lol

"We've put a plan together...and we're looking for a few good men. We've obtained property at a presently undisclosed location and are working to create an off the grid community."

Apparently they have plenty of females and need males for heavy lifting and manual labor activities and to protect the community (from sneaky jew infiltration?).

Go to the youtube.com page and get a kick out of all the 'ready n' willin' comments. Hahaha...can you imagine...joining a prothink.org cult-compound after seeing a youtube vid. of some secret shadow patriot guy...


gretavo's picture

excellent, thanks for sharing!

I hate cults and anyone who believes that these folks really do have a surplus of women should know that I have a few very sexy blonde bridges for sale. That's another thing you are never going to see at WTCD--a call to form any kind of group or association--WTF? You wanna go off to who knows where with who knows who to do who knows what? And then end up in some bizarre Waco situation where you will be used to set an example of who knows what? GTF outta here. All of this survivalist and off the grid crap is such an obvious ploy to get credulous people who might otherwise contribute to cleaning up society to go hide from everyone and be manipulated to serve an agenda probably the opposite of everything they think they support. All part of the act, all part of the show, all playing at many many theatres near you. prothink is probably funded indirectly by the ADL.

EDIT: What does this have to do with Prothink actually? Do they welcome holocaust revisionists in their community? I'm confused... :(

Tim Russet's picture

yo, Neo!

Where can I find me one of those potato-washing monkeys? I'm starting to decompose and, well, let's just say my aroma alone is enough to push an entire small town off the grid...

Tim Russet's picture

holy crap! bring ammunition and women!

OK JPass, this is not Prothinktown, this is Alex Jonestown....


gretavo's picture

yes Jpass, I agree

Which is why after seeing the prothink endorsement at the end and then looking at the comment that the guy who edited the video left on his own youtube page I thought I smelled some of the good ol Nietzschean perfidious harm from deliberate defense with faulty arguments and said so. And I will do the same anytime I see Prothink's (or for that matter people like Alex Jones') stuff on the blog. That's not to say that I am going to tell people not to post stuff that they think is worth reading. That would defeat the purpose of engaging in public discussion over what we agree and disagree with and why, what we find objectionable, unhelpful, or even willfully deceitful. this all goes back to the main problem and source of all of the extremism running amok. The undeniable fact that moderate voices are routinely censored because the powers that be like to divide before they try to conquer. I think people should see what's out there in order to see not just a possible way in which people are deceived into division but also as a display of what many people do in fact sincerely find compelling, so that we can understand why they find it compelling and perhaps help others understand why the game of censorship is so dangerous. Whether the prothink "leaders" are sincere or not, surely some of their enthusiasts are, and we need to show them that there is a better way to be anti-Zionist and even critical of Judaism and other religions when it is appropriate.

casseia's picture

I agree, and I don't think you're overly sensitive.

Note that *we* don't link to *them* -- they link to us, and it would be nice if some judaeophobes stumbled over here and ran smack into non-racist anti-Zionism. For that reason, I don't think a video that mentions Prothink should be here without a disclaimer from the poster.

People who are hung up on the Talmud need to get out and make some Jewish friends in real life. I'd venture to say that you would be hard-pressed to find anyone (outside an ultra-orthodox community) who ever spits when passing a Gentile cemetery or thinks about not shoving a goy into a well but, otoh, not feeling obligated to fish one out. There is deeply bizarre crap in ALL organized religions -- how people live and practice their religion is much more instructive than looking for crazy shit. (For example, Paul seemed to be basically opposed to sex for everyone -- "it's better to marry than to burn" -- and in Theravada Buddhism, an ordained nun of sixty years standing must bow to a monk who has been ordained for only one day -- yadda yadda ad infinitum.)

gretavo's picture

perfectly stated C455!

That is exactly the right attitude. Religions are weird to those who are not "of the faith". For better or worse tradition is important to religious folks and that means not burning religious texts that are outdated or bizarre. Does that mean that we must absolutely accept anything done in the name of religion? Of course not. For every Rabbi Weiss who will go to his grave begging the world to just let Jews, Muslims, and Christians share the land they consider sacred in peace tehre is a Rabbi Kahane who will inspire loonies like Baruch Goldstein to go shoot up a mosque. And so it goes for every other religion.

Understanding this and putting it into practice is one of the sine qua nons of effective anti-Zionism. if you fall into the Hufschmid, Daryl Bradford Smith, Prothink, Jewatch, etc. trap you are HELPING Zionism, not helpng to bring about a peaceful resolution to the mayhem it has to date created.

This brings me to an interesting observation which is that we should make a distinction between big Z Zionism and little z zionism. Zionism with a capital Z is the political program, not very Jewish at all, that has been used by Europeans to continue their domination of a strategically important region. Zionism with a little z, or zionism, can be understood as the idea that one's group aspires to be delivered by God to a "promised land" be that an actual parcel of land or a spiritual state of well being. It need not (and frankly is best off not) involving military conquest or violence of any kind. And ideally such zionisms would be open to anyone committed to the practices of the faith and not just to a select group based on their race. Of course those are just my opinions but the point is that the word zionism itself need not be a dirty word, and we should have room in our minds and our hearts for a gentle zionism that respects any and all Jews' desire to spend time, their whole lives if they desire, in the land they consider holy. But the same must hold true for muslims, christians, and everyone else.

I promise not to make a habit of quoting Jesus, but didn't he answer when asked why he consorted with sinners, in so many words, that it was they who had most need of his message? And speaking of Jesus, can we also apply our principles to those who think that since most Americans are christians that christians are by definition oppressors and deserve to be mocked and ridiculed and say that that is unhelpful at the evry least? And that films like Jesus Camp that are made to encourage people to mock and belittle people for their faith should also be criticized?

Do people still have to have it spelled out to them that all of these things are being done to divide people of faith, i.e. people who are susceptible to arguments based on ultimate principles that they must abide by if they are to avoid damnation? As freethinkers, should we abandon those people (and by extension ourselves) to the inevitable result of this truly evil effort to kep humanity at each others' throats forever?

gulu's picture

Another Catchy One

Although not a rap fan I am a fan of The Coup.Remember these guys were the ones who shorly befor 9/11 had an album cover depicting the trade centers blowing up.Their Kill My Landlord album is a classic.Sorry but my computer skills are just slightly better than my humble avatars so check this link www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUDGxdeICw Espcially like the verse-Patience is not a virtue(I aint waitin)-Turn the shit over like Bush did a boat load of Hatians.

kate of the kiosk's picture

The Coup vid


gulu's picture

Thanks Kate

One day I will figure out html.Maybe I will break down and call a plumber and have him show me how to work these tubes.

Mossadmed Atta's picture

a tip on embedding, Mr. Gulu

I am just a pseudo hijacker, but I do know a little something. Your problem might be that you have rich text enabled. If you do, make sure it is disabled before you paste the embed code from the you tube...

Annoymouse's picture

I like the Coup musically but...

Where's their 9/11 truth song, huh? Also, are they saying Mau Mau in this song? Someone once recommended Tom Wolfe's Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers as an interesting critique of the sixties and seventies activist culture...

gulu's picture

Crossover

While I agree there is no 9/11 truth to this vid there is a cross over here.A lying,sub human group that keeps masses of people under their thumb and a people that reject it.A government thats supposedly here to protect and serve its people but instead eats its own for their lust for power and money.Thats were I can relate to The Coup.A lot of Reggae does the same for me.9/11 was the awakening for a lot of people of our time to the truth.While I dont care for most Rap/Hip hop with their misogyny,gangsterism,ect.
I do understand it.Although voilence is not my bag I realize that it is almost certainly inevitable to wrest the power from the current Collection of thieves and murders now running the show. I can relate also to the lines
(They never pass me, no one to go and tail bro
trying to kill the movement with the new cointelpro)
Leaders they killed, if I said it, it would threaten em
They only see my back because I’m three steps ahead of em
We’re not fallin in the slot you slated- we realize that our power’s nickel-plated)--There is a somewhat romantic feel to the proles storming the castle with their torches and pitch forks.Or nickle plated guns.Wheather you agree with it or not that sentiment is out there and they are on our side.

petros's picture

Thanks, and the Lyrics

Thanks, all, for identifying that there's racist
overtones mixed in with very good critique of Zionism in the
video. Regular contributors to this site can help the Truth
movement a lot to become empowered and achieve better clarity, by sorting out the jew-hating memes we encounter from
the anti-Zionist elements that we should be supporting.

I especialy appaud and embrace the statement above by Casseia:

"I don't think a video that mentions Prothink should be here without a disclaimer from the poster." And we should apply that to all similar sources.

The lyrics to the song contain jew-hating meme "gems" such as:

"...they boning little boys claiming your morals are gone"'

"...jewish bankers fully funded hitler
German war machine the price enormous"

"...Mastered lies
convinced the ottoman sultan to kill Armenians in the Balkans"

"...see, the young turks that revolted were crypto jews"

The lyrics are below, you can see all that for yourselves. I say we should always publish
disclaimers and critiques, and help our communities sort out the
jew-hating crap from the precious and insightful analysis and
information that make opposition and resistance to Zionism stronger.


Petros
petros@cyprus-org.net

________

KayfaHolocaust Lyrics

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=34285029...

"Let's not try to marginalize this message by pointing out that I use
'jew' alot, if you know me and have heard me or read me, you know I
maintain the dichotomy..."

KAYFAHOLOCAUST

(Chorus) What is ya'll waiting for, maybe a nuclear war

They hate when we tell the truth, but Allah's heaven so the hell with you

So save the mazel tov, It's Kayfaholocaust (x2)

They bombed they own King David hotel in 1946

But now the poor youth are fighting for the rich?

congress, Sold they souls, spare slaves

2 trillion plus rabbis zakhiem's remote controlled airplanes?

Don't add up to bin laden and a war on Islam

they boning little boys claiming your morals are gone

When they carpet bomb we gotta talk truth to power

Siliverstein should get the guillotine since he blew the towers

Lies don't last it's time for action, can't lose this hour,

fruit is elusive but the future we choose is ours

Think they 'll stop islam cuz the prophets gone

but they mess up like Banu Qurayzah picking Saad Bin Mas

Invented modern terror with the haganah

The jewish holocaust was one of many ya'll made profits off

Norman finklesteins holocaust industry

Forced to live in peace ya'll would rot physically

(chorus)

Listen guys, the historical picture you been shown is,

Vicious lies, so just go read hitlers jewish soldiers

Sure they suffered injustice amongst other mixups

But guess what, jewish bankers fully funded hitler

German war machine the price enormous

You need Zyclon B the Warburg fortune and IG Farben

Exiled, as traitors the lesson Europe learned

Why you think zionazis got slaps on the wrist at nurembourg?

Histories mysteries you assess differently

67 is a lesson bombed the USS Liberty

Talking about 'oh yea we just made a mistake'

While forcing the Egyptians to dig their own graves

Face to face you gotta be silent,

Cuz ya'll too pussy to murder the prophet and used Pontius pilate

Think you chosen you not, roastin ya'll into kosher kabobs

For worshipping cows while Moses was gone

But I almost forgot, selective memory khanverse

Ya'll the khazari Nazis seventh century converts

And basically racists with bloodlust

Ain't semites, ya'll from the Caucasus and white pagans from Russia

Hundreds of mossad spies, Fox Played it then pulled em

We know ya'll do the terrorism then blame it on muslims

We can't take water on jets, cuz ya'll started the threat

Of Liquid bombs, it was smart, cuz ya'll were smashin Lebanon

(chorus)

Calm patient, waiting God don't want hatred

But yo Abu Nidal was a mossad agent

What they Tryin to prove, I ain't lying it's true

The dude behind the Danish cartoons was a Zionist jew

Plus They know how to lower your morals with their deeds

I mean damn, why you think they run the porno industry?

How dare you attack the Quran, the word of God

With pedophilia & hate in the Talmud and zohar

Child sex slaves, Rabbi Jerrold Levy

Goes back to the orgies of their fake messiah, Sabbatai Zevi

War on drugs fake, save face with Mexican slaves

while hassidic jews deep in ecstasy trade

Crime dynasties like Crowns and Bronfmans

Clinton was their clown, we saw it when he pardoned Marc rich

And look at the poster boy for half the americans

Dems should know Emanuels dad was a terrorist

(chorus)

The news is commentary from Zionists

Don't talk about Vanunu's ten years in solitary confinement

Pull back the curtain, they all fall like dominoes,

In Europe you can question God but not the holohoax?

Mastered lies

convinced the ottoman sultan to kill Armenians in the Balkans to steal Palestine

biggest lies are best, can't front, it's true, it's so shrewd

see, the young turks that revolted were crypto jews

pitting Christians against muslims for centuries now

can't choose the truth ya'll essentially bound

to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

must fulfill despotic world government can't help that you lying

The dershowitz flock applaud your merciless plots

But that's just a tiny part of the curse of Allah

Most folks are asleep, won't notice their greed

But trillionaire jewish banks must fall for the globe to be free

We ain't allowed to humanize martyrs

If they had f16s and nukes they wouldn't be suicide bombers

And if terrorism is why theirs no peace

Why do jews venerate the grave of Baruch Goldstein?

Try to make palestinian subservience permanent

So we expose their crimes, they start murdering journalists

They film it and then leave, hope killing will just cease

So Israelis snipe little children in the middle of the street

Most folks are asleep, won't notice their greed

But trillionaire jewish banks must fall for the globe to be free

(chorus)

____________

gretavo's picture

thanks for posting these lyrics

There are some things that obviously could be more diplomatically stated and then some things that we would need to check a slew of history books to find out the truth about. But I will maintain that while we criticize and find faults in this kind of expression, we should also be trying to understand where it comes from. Can I, as a reasonably privileged white American (oppressed Puerto Rican but that's another twenty dollars) honestly and in good conscience look at what has been going on in the world and deny someone's right to vent their anger in the form of a song? And not a song that invites anyone to kill anyone else, just one that expresses anger and frustration? Can we really say that whatever inaccuracies or prejudices are to be found in this song are not reflected 100-fold in the media that, unlie this song, hundreds of millions are brainwashed by? I won't. I will encourage this kind of expression of anger--as flawed as it may be it is perfectly understandable to me why there are people who choose to put these words together instead of blowing people apart. If some of this history is wrong or if the writer could use some guidance in terms of making his message more accurate or diplomatic or whatever it is that will make it a more effective vehicle for change then we can't just throw it away because someone decided to write "prothink" on it. The point is that whatever the problems reflected by this song, they are easy to point out. The problem with the opposite side (if you will) is that the problem with what they are doing is so incredibly vast and complex that we shrink from the kind of critique that is necessary, and that this song represents an example of--no, I don't think it's perfect, how could it be after all that has been done? Let's not forget to hold the other side to account for all the horrid things they have done little to nothing to oppose, stop, or in any way ameliorate, if even they admit to them...

Lazlo Toth's picture

So sorry to have caused any harm or misunderstanding.

To Jpass and Casseia, no I am not suddenly flipping out and going agent provocateur. Late the other night I found this vid, felt that the lyrics and images were pretty tight with the general message of protest coming from the so-called “anti-Zionism movement” (including Neturei Karta), and put it up for your political viewing pleasure. I was sharing something I had found on “the tubes,” Jpass. I wasn’t “pushing Prothink.” I have never “pushed” any one or any site’s content on WTCD. I do apologize for freaking you out and causing you to doubt my sincerity in trying to work out, and through, all these schemes and scams so that the truth is revealed, and the works of the guilty come to a screeching halt.

I guess I am of the philosophy (one probably not suitable to public relations) that if someone puts out a video and it doesn’t have anything in it which is too over the top (like the one posted by Jpass), and the message is fairly tight and right, I am not averse to posting it. I remember seeing Mike Delaney the first time you posted that vid, and said, “Oh no, this is not good at all. This is how they will shut down a valid and important message” (one much better presented by someone like Joel Kovel). Other than the fact that its production credits mention the prothink.org website at the very end, the video had nothing in it that I thought would be very controversial here. I liked the protest footage of the Neturei Karta, and if Khanverse (a clever Muslim pun on Converse, my favourite sneakers) feels later on, after he made and posted the video, that these Torah Rabbis (they are not Talmudic) are some kind of “controlled opposition,” then that is his personal post-cut decision and commentary, but it still doesn’t affect the content of the video which he left in. I also think the idea of Neturei Karta being a Zionist “controlled opposition” is nonsense anyways, due to the fact that they have been protesting against the militant, nationalist, heretical ideology of Zionism (the big Z kind, good one G.) for a century. In other words, just as there is a history of Zionist false flag terror ops, there is also a long history of orthodox rabbinical protest against the followers of Theodor Herzl and his faux Jewish national project. No matter what you may believe or think, these rabbis have long considered T. Herzl to be an “agent of Satan.” Neturei Karta is not something new that just popped up yesterday in some intelligence agency puppet show. In Palestine, these rabbis are treated just like Palestinians when they are jailed at protest rallies, i.e. they are beaten and tortured in detention.

And Petros, yeah, the phrase in the song “they boning little boys” is not a lyric I would have put down, but unfortunately the horrific reality of a global child sex and slavery trade is a fact, and I won’t have to mention here in polite company which country’s syndicates play a strong part in this global sex slave, prostitution market. There are many islands out there in the wide sea. See also the eastern European slavery connections to Dyncorp and the Cynthia McKinney interrogation of Herr Rumsfeld.

In his lyrics, Khanverse mentions a book called “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers,” which I read a really good review on. It seems to have some academic credibility and is based on a lot of archival document research. Apparently Hitler had up to 20,000 soldiers who were Jews and who patriotically fought for their country, i.e. Deutschland. There actually are a lot of references to real historical things in this song, though some may be overstated, and slightly inaccurate, or just a bit too canardesque. The Khazars, for example did not convert to Judaism in the 7th century. It was in the 8th century, c. 740 CE. The Haganah also did not invent modern terror (in the Middle East), as the song incorrectly states; it was the Irgun (IZL) and LeHI organisations. I know, I’m being picky here about details. There are also some stretched and inaccurate historical canards in this piece, but you should hear some of the modern rap coming out of Palestine. Lawdy. This is tame stuff. As far as the eloquence and precision of the lyrics, hey it’s rap. If there is too much eloquence, you lose all the edge and “street cred” in your presentation.

Here are some rather controversial, yet true items mentioned in this rap:

“Hassidic Jews deep in ecstasy trade.”
If in this line the lyricist is referring to the recent bust of a Hassidic kosher meat processing plant in Postville, Iowa which was running a Mexican slave business and manufacturing illegal drugs, Khanverse is totally incorrect. Those drugs were not the MDMA (“ecstasy”) variety. These Iowa “rabbis” were cooking methamphetamines to make speed. All charges were dropped against the Rubashkins. The exploited Mexican workers got the punishment instead (for being illegal). There is, however, a Russian-Israeli mafia that controls the MDMA business, so perhaps this is what the lyrics were referring to.

“Dems should know Emanuel’s dad was a terrorist”
Yes, dual-national Congressman Rahm Emanuel’s dad was in the Irgun (IZL), all of whose members, including Menachem Begin, were all wanted by the British Mandate Government of Palestine as “terrorists.” Rahm’s brother Ari also just happens to be Michael Moore’s manager. “Why won’t Michael talk about 9/11?” I wonder. This is a prime example of a “controlled opposition.” All sides of this faux competition are all members in what George Carlin referred to as “the Big Club.”

“In Europe you can question God but not the Holohoax?”
This type of question, related to apparent and serious double-standards in play, is being asked by a lot of Christians and Muslims nowadays. How come you can have a museum that will sponsor exhibits like Christ on a cross in a vat of urine, or Sarah Silverman can do a stand-up bit where she says that if Jesus comes back, we (the Jews) should kill him again, and then laughs in a fairly derisive manner. But breathe one bit about the highly questionable evidence that the “Holocaust” narration is built upon, or go up on a comedy stage and say that “Judaism is full of crap, and if we, as Roman descendants, get the chance, we will burn down Jerusalem again.” I’ll bet you $1,000 that this research or comedy bit would not get the funding, or round of applause that Sarah Silverman received.

“Why do Jews venerate the grave of Baruch Goldstein?”
This is certainly a legitimate question, however, it should not be phrased in such a way as to give the impression that world Jewry is of one mind with the fanatical ideologies of the Israeli settler movement, the Gush Emunim. “The Jews” do not venerate the grave of Baruch Goldstein. All the Jewish folks I know were absolutely mortified when this nutcase with an automatic weapon just opened fired at people engaged in prayer inside a mosque and historically sacred space. The extremists though always like to push it a bit too far. For example, in the 1950s, upon Egypt’s returning the bodies of Eliahu Hakim and Eliahu Bet Tsouri, the two assassins who, on November 6, 1944 murdered Lord Moyne, Britain’s Minister Resident in Cairo, the new state of Israel gave a funerary parade for them, and buried these two LeHI assassins in a cemetery reserved for Israeli prime ministers. The British public was, as might have been expected, completely outraged that these two young hoodlums and cold-blooded assassins were shown such state honor and buried among the political leaders of Israel.

“So Israelis snipe little children in the middle of the street”
Yes they (the Israeli Occupation Forces, or IOF) do, and schoolgirls are used for target practice as well. PCATI (The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel) just put out a rather chilling report called “No Defense: Soldier Violence against Palestinian Detainees.” I will throw up a link to the PDF later. Super fun bedtime reading.

And why is Khanverse so angry in this song at “the Jews?” It is because his people have been lied to, conned, and driven from their homes and farms by a foreign colonizing, occupying force that has been slaughtering his people for decades now, and little middle-class liberal white folks don’t say shit about it. A real Holocaust is going on decade after decade—real historical events passing before our eyes—but we’re just too fucking bored and comfy to be bothered. If we open our mouths about this horror, we might offend someone, and that would be just too impolite in proper society. Yesterday, we had the big 90th birthday bash for Nelson Mandela and the “end of South African apartheid,” and not nobody at the whole damn concert said zippitydoodah about the outdoor prison known as Palestine and the RACIST APARTHEID policies it has been subjected to for SIX DECADES by the little evil country we generously support with our tax dollars. No money to fix the bridges, roads, and schools. Sorry, we gave it all to Israel, the country that attacks us every five or so years and wants us to pay for and carry out its “Final Solution to the Arab Problem” in our good names.

Although this might shock some of you, I do not think that the Prothink group is as racist and hateful as might be portrayed, at least from what I have gathered on their site. (and they do not link to WTCD) They seem to honor Benjamin Freedman and Jack Bernstein a lot. If they hated Jews, wouldn’t they also hate Freedman and Bernstein? I think that some of their imprecision is due to a lot of moral anger, outrage, and frustration with the current tide of global events. Anger and frustration at the apathy and silence out there can inspire you to throw out all necessary nuances, and just speak in short, imprecise, blanket terms. First lesson is that saying, “the Jews,” or “Jews” do such and such means “all Jews” as a group, which takes us into the highly imprecise and inaccurate world of “all Whites are this,” “all Blacks and Chicanos are xyz,” etc. Is the Prothink crew an ADL sponsored project? I am reserving my judgment for now, as I am not intimately familiar with their whole thing. They could very well be real and well-intentioned American patriots who just need to refine their understanding of these things, as Gretavo mentioned. If they change their site banner from “Fighting the Global Zionist Conspiracy” to “Fighting the Global Jewish Conspiracy,” then we will know that they have just completely lost it and fallen into the clutches of Abe Foxman. Even the site’s tagline “Fighting the Global Zionist Conspiracy” has many problems with it. There is a global conspiracy of sorts in which an elite power structure of wealthy Big Z Zionists are taking part, but this above phrase beckons comparison with the notion of all Jews participating in a global plot against the Goyim. They all know about the big plan and are plotting together, even at the deli on the corner. I will tell you one thing, my total beatnik Jewish friends are not part of any such “global conspiracy.” They are completely apolitical (perhaps it is all an act) and mostly rely on me to tell them if there’s any big news story that they should have to turn on their TVs and pay attention to. Having said all of this, if I were going to create an organization that would shed a disturbing and potentially violent “anti-Semitic” light on the peaceful, non-hating wing of the 9/11 Truth Movement’s anti-Zionism faction, getting a white guy with a shaved head saying its “da Jooz, da Jooz, da Jooz” as your frontman, and hooking him up with a militia member and a Muslim dude would definitely be the way to go. Absolutely brilliant. If you can then turn Stormfront members into “truthers,” and put up a website with a chat room and blog, then you are on a roll.

“By deception thou shalt do war,” and those who hold this motto are absolute professionals at running multi-leveled, multi-sided cons and psych games. What a horror when the world is reduced to a state where absolutely no one can be trusted or believed, and when all beliefs in sacredness and morality are reduced to mockery. Destroy an economy through usury and war, turning its men into beggars and its women and children into prostitutes, and all sense of family, community, and national cohesion is gone. The ultimate divide, conquer, and control game is about to be fully played out through the twin devices of economic depression and war. We will now get to see what our grandparents saw, only this time it will be worse. What would John Adams do? As you can tell, my mood is not one of great and cheery optimism, but I never give up the hope that the rational side of humanity can somehow get it all together at the very last minute. Hey, I can dream can’t I?

P.S. Hey Chris, that’s really great about your mom. She must be smart like you. If I can only help one or two people, then it will all have been worth it. Tell her I said hello.

Ciao

gretavo's picture

yes, yes, yes, absolutely, and yes.

OK I hate to be your yes man, Laz, because I think we should all try to appear as impartial as possible but what can I say? You were tossed a hot potato and you made a scrumptious c455erole for us all to chew on and digest. I would like to believe that in fact the Prothink folks are just a little coarse and that they will make an effort to continue to learn about everything they seem to care so pasionately about. Threat From Within: A Century of Jewish Opposition to Zionism which I posted an excerpt from at http://wtcdemolition.com/joz.pdf is a great place to start, as is Joel Kovel's Overcoming Zionism, and Israel Shahak's Jewish History and Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years and Open Secrets: Israel Nuclear and Foreign Policy. These books have all for me been a great balance against the controversial yet fascinating Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed. the more I learn about Jewish history the more fascinated I am by it and the more I admire its real (non-Zionist) heroes. But I can also say that my view of Zionism itself has become more nuanced as it becomes more informed. As a secular humanist myself (as much as I value a number of the world's religious and spiritual teachings) I can respect the early Zionists' earnest desire to preserve their group identity while at the same time transcending the ghetto and the shackles of religious dogma in the spirit of the enlightenment. I can appreciate that like all things that can sway and motivate masses into action Zionism attracted some supporters who saw in it an opportunity to mobilize masses in a cynical neo-colonial project of economic oppression. Seeing all of this does not make me sympathetic to what passes today for Zionism and for Jewish Nationalism, but it does help me to understand what kinds of approaches are and aren't constructive in the quest to open and resolve a very delicate yet crucially important debate. Above all else we must act in good faith--if and when we fail to do that, we lose our way.

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he used to link to us

prothink, that is. he pulled it after a few critical comments (rightly so) were made here. i think the criticism was just too intense and it caused the ego to buckle resulting in infrastructural failure or something. anyway, i think he's trying to be honest in his work, if not refined.

Annoymouse's picture

I can dig that...

I watched Mike Delaney's video again and the sad thing is he makes some decent points amid the BS. And by BS I do mean baby sacrificing. Maybe he lacks tact, maybe he's just frustratingly angry at things, but if he's sincere he needs to understand how this game is played and realize that coming across as threatening, even if not overtly so, plays right into the hands of the Zionists and ADL types.

I will say that he was right on the money when he said that Jewish people don't have the luxury of pretending that what Israel does is not being done in their name, and so just as we as Americans are morally obligated to denounce what is being done in our names anyone identifying as Jewish should be doing the same with Israel. Now the question is, aren't many Jews doing just that? Sure, but not nearly enough, or loudly enough I guess is what the problem is. Jewish people also need to understand how this game is played and that no matter how uncomfortable it makes them to denounce Israel's actions they must do so or else they too will be playing into the Zionists' hands. Why won't Jon Stewart have Joel Kovel on his show, for example? That's the problem in a nutshell--Delaney blames Jews for not doing something they are too brainwashed to do, just as many around the world blame Americans for not doing anything about stuff they too are too brainwashed to even realize is happening.

-gReT

PS I should also point out that compared to Mike and Prothink we probably seem like (and are) a bunch of old fogies. I happily accept that mantle as it is our combined years and experience that is one of our main strengths here. I hope that's all that's going on here--some youthful enthusiasm that can and will be seasoned over time to good effect.

petros's picture

Applause, not disagreement / "...being picky here about details"

Applause, not disagreement / "...being picky here about details"

Lazlo Toth, in a Comment above in order to help clarify some issues, wrote  among other things:

"...a book called “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers,” which I read a really
good review on. It seems to have some academic credibility and is based
on a lot of archival document research. Apparently Hitler had up to
20,000 soldiers who were Jews and who patriotically fought for their
country, i.e. Deutschland.
There actually are a lot of references to real historical things in
this song, though some may be overstated, and slightly inaccurate, or
just a bit too canardesque. The Khazars, for example did not convert to
Judaism in the 7th century. It was in the 8th century, c. 740 CE. The
Haganah also did not invent modern terror (in the Middle East), as the
song incorrectly states; it was the Irgun (IZL) and LeHI organisations.

I know, I’m being picky here about details. There are also some stretched and inaccurate historical canards in this piece..."

I would like to applaud the effort to be "picky about details". Details
matter. If they matter enough to be mentioned, they matter enough for
us to be accurate about them. Verification, good sources and a mindful approach
to using them are essential. Both the 9/11 Truth movement and the
antiZionist wings of the liberation movement have a dire need for
accuracy, for dependable materials and sources, dependability.

I feel that clarifying and specifying makes all the difference in the
world. Being mindful helps us cultivate and maintain the distinction
between antiZionism and crude jew-hating; the difference between being
active participants in the liberation process as opposed to
participants in the forces of oppression.

I embrace being "picky about the details". My thanks and appreciation to you for that approach.
I'll be adding a few sort of relevant remarks below.

Thanks!
Petros
~~~~~~~~~~~  

petros's picture

Hitler’s Jewish Supporters

From above:
"...Apparently Hitler had up to 20,000 soldiers who were Jews and who patriotically fought for their country, i.e. Deutschland".

Definitely an interesting slice of history for examining. Also interesting is the fate of Jewish nobility who supported the fascists,
partly without quite realizing what they were getting into and partly
because that political stance suited their lifestyle and personal
politics in terms of gender, culture, sexuality.

A lot of this stuff is explored with tenderness, in visual poetry
that's immersed in the subtleties of historical memory in a movie
titled
The Garden of the Finzi-Continis
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065777/usercomments?filter=prolific;start=8

In this light, all of us can benefit from examining our own lifestyles and personal politics especially in terms of gender, sexuality and culture,
to examine the degrees to which sometimes knowingly (which is rare),
and most often unknowingly, we give emotional support or acceptance to
actions, movements or political climates focused on selective hatred or
prejudice against another community. Or even against our own community.

Using delicate and sensitive strokes, the movie left me with a desolate
feeling that illustrated Plato's and the Spartans' old teaching, newly
revalidated by the Gay Liberation Movement, that "An Army of Lovers Can
Not Lose". Inversely, it depicts the sorrowful astringent truth of how
it's only after lovers' hearts are pained and poisoned that the tanks
and stormtroopers are able to march in.

Petros Evdokas
petros@cyprus-org.net
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html
___________

petros's picture

Exodus: Movement of Jah people


In regard to the Haganah, the Irgun (IZL) and LeHI organisations:

For those who, like myself, enjoy cinematic visitations into the realms
of history and politics, there's a movie that explores some of the
confusing politics and dynamics of the era during the formative years
of the Israeli Apartheid State and the Palestinian Catastrophe
(nakbah). Some of you may know it (older farts like myself); it used to
be a cultural "staple" among the worldwide community of the early and
moderate pro-Israel but anti-apartheid (anti-Zionist) sentiments.

The movie is titled
Exodus (1960),
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053804/
starring a young and beautiful Paul Newman. He plays a sometimes
adorable, sometimes despicable freedom fighter who is instrumental in
the efforts to generate an Israel intended to be a place of peace and
justice shared in equality between the Arab native majority, the Jewish
native minority and the sea of Jewish refugees flooding into Palestine
at the end of World War 2.

Characteristic of that era's perceptions and realities (so distorted by now, that they seem incomprehensible
to generations who grew up digesting only lies and propaganda), many of
the characters in the movie who are Jewish freedom fighters are
referred to by the term that was most commonly used at the time and
truly the most appropriate: as "Palestinians".   

In fact, some people still resent that:
"...the Palestinian Jews now called Israelis. The word "Palestinian"
has been inaccurately appropiated by the Arabs of palestine only":
http://tinyurl.com/3ezvm4
or,
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=
cache:_vkNP5jhNSsJ:www.ama
zon.co.uk/Exodus-Paul-Newman/
dp/rentals/B00015N56A+%2Bexodus
+%2Bnewman+%2Bpalestinians&hl=
en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

The movie's opening scene is a place which is still under war and
occupation: northern Cyprus. I know that place intimately. The story
builds up quickly, and a few minutes later the first action scene takes
place in the port city of Ammohostos (Famagusta) in Cyprus, on top of
Othellos castle where I once had the honor to poop squatting just
inside the entrance to the secret tunnels burrowing under the defensive
medieval fortress walls (I did this while singing out loud in my
operatic voice "Desdemona...").

The movie Exodus was used in the sixties and seventies to promote a
moderate pro-Israel view of reality. It included enough distortions to
make it unreliable as a historical reference source - for example, the
mass expulsion of the Arab Palestinian populations by terrorists is
"sort glossed over". In light of the revolutionary spirit of the
sixties and seventies, it was easy to label Exodus as "pro-zionist", or
at least as "wishy washy". But the political and personal sentiments it
promotes are exactly what is needed for a spirit of
reconciliation and resolvement to take root again in Palestine. The
sentiments and politics go a long way toward investing in the
humanitarian and internationalist values and capabilities of the very
real and very tangible, flesh and blood members of the American and
Israeli Jewish communities who are against Jewish supremacy, against
apartheid, and pro-Israel.

In light of the political spirit that dominates the globe - and the
Muddled East, itself - today, in the current era of a unified global
Imperium, the sentiments and politics of Exodus are not just "moderate
to liberal", but almost revolutionary: equality, justice and
togetherness between Arab and Jewish Palestinians and Israelis? Almost
unthinkable. Yet, entirely indispensable.

Not every one agrees, of course, about the value of the politics in
that movie and it deserves a lot of justified criticism. Here's a short
and really good one from an interesting point of view:
Does Paul Newman Owe a Spiritual Debt to the Palestinians?
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/11/another-jewish-.html

The author, Philip Weiss, is self described as a "luftmensch" - Yiddish
for a "woolgatherer", with a "progressive Jewish background. Interested
in: ideas, books, Jewish identity, pluralism, the political and
nationalist claims on American Jews by Israel, American foreign policy,
globalization, the struggle within Islam..."

A few more notes about the movie Exodus:

~* Spirit of Dedication and Self-Discipline

The movie portrays a certain spirit which, in the modern era, most
Americans and Western Europeans are unable to understand, connect with,
or even to recognize at all. Self-discipline and total dedication to
the liberation movement, to an organization that serves it, and to the
tactics and methods it embraces are values and behaviours which are
almost entirely unknown in the "West" today, absent from public and
private awareness for more than forty years.

It is part of the reason why the Peace and Justice movement in the US
is slipping backwards every day now, leaving no other option for
Iraqis, Afghanis and Palestinians but to fight to the death for
survival and freedom by any means necessary.

~* The Role of the Fake Left

How exactly, the organized Left among Palestinian Jews at the end of
WW2 and in the following years was able to become an instrument -
instead of an opponent - of Zionism, is a mystery all unto itself.

Of particular interest is the quasi communalist movement of the
kibbutzim  - an essential organizational, functional and
ideological core of  Labour Zionism consisting of agricultural
communes and a worldwide network of volunteers recruited to them -
which provided structure and community building to the emerging State
of Israel. (There's more about Labour Zionism under the title "Related
/Unrelated" at the links below.)

Eroded from within by Fake Leftists (it is impossible to exclude or
overlook the influence of Stalinism in all this), the movement of
Jewish Socialists of many flavours accepted the agricultural commune
movement as a progressive step (which it was) but neglected to see its
role in generating a racialist supremacy and esprit de corp for the
emerging Zionist armed militia and subsequently for the armed forces of
the State which evolved from them.

Labor Socialism provided a moral high ground for Zionism - just as the
Socialist /Left /Labour section of the Nazi party provided that
movement with morals, high ideals, camraderie, and millions of new
highly motivated members, until the entire section of the movement was
exterminated in one weekend starting with the Night of the Long Knives.

The movie provides some excellent glimpses into the beautiful and
inspiring elements of Labor Socialism, and it's especially good in
depicting the youth-liberation oriented, internationalist culture that
permeated many of the early camps and kibbutzim in Palestine. It does
not go into how those became perverted or had their Leftist values
turned upside down eventually and found themselves as an integral part
of a movement that was setting up an apartheid regime founded on ethnic
cleansing.

I hold Leftist leaders in general to be more responsible than their
clumsy unsophisticated Right-wing counterparts for when entire
movements turn into pure poison, historical epochs turn into
"meatgrinders of humanity" because Leftist leaders are supposed to -
and indeed do - know better! Leftists, especially those who adhere to
Scientific Socialism, have the knowledge of tactics, strategy, theory,
practice, history and an understanding of social forces (supposedly) to
help our populations prevent the rendering of wings of the liberation
movement into their exact opposite. Yet, that is exactly what happened
with both Nazism and Labour Zionism.

My own prejudices and adventures with the Fake Left ( I wish to be
transparent about them) can not be overlooked, either; if my
condemnation of the Fake Left leaders and their responsibilities in the
creation of an apartheid state in Israel sound too harsh, please see
this:
More on the Fake Left
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1182#comment-11246

Petros Evdokas
petros@cyprus-org.net
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Related /Unrelated:

Exodus: Movement of Jah people
The lyrics from the song by Bob Marley:
http://www.lyricsondemand.com/b/bobmarleylyrics/exoduslyrics.html

Exodus Script - Dialogue Transcript
http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/e/exodus-script-transcript-pa...
(if you don't have a chance to watch the movie, please search the page for the word "Palestinian", read around it a little.)

Labor Zionism
(wikipedia is a good source only for beginning a search):
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Labor_Zionism&oldid=219580354

Night of the Long Knives
movie by Visconti titled
"The Damned" / "La Caduta degli dei", (1969)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064118/

history of the event and background:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/roehm.htm
and:
http://www.infotrue.com/pagethr.html#Night

~~~~~~~~~~~  

Annoymouse's picture

The point to keep in mind is

The point to keep in mind is that these were quarter-Jews who participated in the armed forces. One grandparent identified as Jewish, with all others designated Gentile, was a low enough ranking to be considered acceptable. It's not that all racial evaluation was discarded in this process.

petros's picture

NO ~ Leave those genes alone!

Every time the discussion focuses on "inherited Jewishness", on "gene ratios", we are going down the wrong way. 

That is the path to racialist politics, which I find extremely
offensive.  A focus in the Genetic approach, is the sickest, most
oppressive and reactionary approach to culture and politics
possible. 

And I believe the editors here should clarify
and address whether it's an acceptable concept to be guiding the
dialogue or research. As soon as genetics come in, the politics of
culture, language, ethnicity and religion are dragged down into the
cesspool of nazi politics. 

Petros

 

 

Annoymouse's picture

I'm not sure I understand what you are proposing

We are truthseekers, not propagandists. I certainly am not intereste din promoting any race-based ideology, but neither do i think that it should be taboo to discuss others' use of it, like the Naizs and the Zionists. how can we have an honest discussion of Judaism without acknowledging that the tradition holds that Jewishness is passed down by mothers but ot by fathers? how can we explain the problem with the equation of Jew-hatred or anti-Zionism with anti-semitism, when most Jews are not semitic? We did not originate these concepts but we have to live with those who exploit them--it is absurd to think that discussion of anything genetic will be forbidden, if only to ensure we can criticize such views! It is not a focus or an approach of this site--at least I know I am avowedly anti-racist, but that won't stop me from pointing out the inconvenient similarities between Zionist and Nazi views on race, or even the parts of the Old Testament and Talmud that are racist. And it goes without saying that I will not limit my criticism to Jews or Zionists--but I figure people are already tired of hearing about how racist David Duke is....

gReT

kate of the kiosk's picture

We did not originate these concepts but we have to live with

 

them 

right

Annoymouse's picture

Well since the issue of Jews

Well since the issue of Jews participating in the Wehrmacht had already been raised, then of course that's a topic about racial politics. Racial politics were at the core of the third Reich, like it or not. If one wishes to state what the policy of a racial state on such a matter was, then it only makes sense to state the policy fully. This requires a reference to the "quarter-Jew" criterion.

gretavo's picture

exactly

that's why I'm not sure what the objection was--it's not like anyone was saying that it was OK one way or the other. I do find it interesting that the Nazis who supposedly hated Jews so much were OK with someone who they ocnsidered 1/4 whereas with American anti-black racism pretty much any fraction no matter how small would be considered unacceptable. Also, as someone who is a mix of all kinds of people (including black, though admittedly no more than 1/16 or less) I both embrace my lack of pedigree and am fascinated by issues of race, ethnicity, and cultural identity, understanding full well that all are constructs without a direct grounding in reality. and for the record, Petros, there is very little by way of an editorial policy here. this is not a site for diplomats or politicians--it is for freethinkers, humanists, idealists, visionaries, freedom fighters, hopeless romantics, iconoclasts, and yogis. it reflects the insanity of the times in which we live, yes. it is a safe space for those who desire frank discussion of difficult topics in good faith. there are no ads, no endorsements, no dues, no meetings, and sometimes I'm sure no readers! It's not a club, or a political party, or any other kind of association. In fact I sincerely hope it contains the seeds of its ow destruction and that itwill one day be defunct, once our common goal of universal awareness of the truth about 9/11 is known. In the meantime, I echo Lazlo's gratitude for your conscience and willingness to engage others here especially when you don't agree with something or other.

Annoymouse's picture

Yes, it does sound a bit odd

Yes, it does sound a bit odd that someone whose grandparents (those who were assessed as full Jews) and possibly even parents (those assessed as half-Jews) are supposedly being shoved into a gas chamber, would agree to participate in the army in any capacity.

kate of the kiosk's picture

there are no ads, no endorsements, no dues, no meetings, and

sometimes...

 

right

Lazlo Toth's picture

Actually Petros, I appreciate very much

your anti-hatred stance and high sensitivity to any program or agenda of hatred and violence. The Jesus and Buddha and Gandhi guys said that it is a tough path, and it is. The picadors are always out there. They never sleep. Divide and conquer. In words that might paraphrase Kpax, “I appreciate all the Homo Sapiens peoples of your planet. All your tribes, folks and peoples, and faiths in the goodness of the Infinite is all good. You are a biological and spiritual unity that you do not understand. I like y’alls’ excellent music and food and dancing and art and humour a lot. Yuz basically got about 6,000 really super greedy violent nutzeroni people that need to be seriously put into mental hospitals, and then the rest a y’all can have a harmonious, equitable, chillin’ time. That’s all fer now. Be your own person. You are your own nation. Everything Will Be OK (eventually).

casseia's picture

Hey Laz -- I'm late in replying...

Don't worry, I'm not panicked about your incipient provocative agency. I *do* think it's worth it to post a caveat with a post that may be construed as offensive (or even just wrong -- every time I refer to that IT song, I can't help but say, "but of course *Bush* didn't knock down the towers -- although it's catchy as hell".) Your dissection of the Khanverse lyrics was rockin'-- I think just having something like that on the same page as the video is very helpful.

I notice your reference to K-Pax -- I HOPE TO GOD you saw the Argentinian film from which it was ripped off, which was light years superior, before it became almost impossible to find. It was made in the early 80s and called "Man Facing Southeast." It's my answer whenever I am asked what my favorite movie is. My reading, after seeing it many times and puzzling over it, is that it is at least in part about the idea that human beings were created "in the image of God" and a riff on the thought experiment: what if we are metaphorically the two-dimensional photographic image of God, but there are beings who are HOLOGRAPHIC representations (or incarnations) of the divine?

Chico Haupt's picture

HOLOGRAPHIC representations of the divine...

now you ah tahkeeng... finally somebody hass recognissed me.

Lazlo Toth's picture

Thank you Casseia,

For your support and faith in my “non-shilliness.” I am not a paid someone who is trying to set up the pins of credibility and truth, only to knock them down and discredit them with stupidity and racial-religious hatred. I am an avowed, lifelong enemy of the LIE. I am a champion of the weak, undefended, and unspoken for (one of my favourite films is Franco Zeffirelli’s “Brother Sun, Sister Moon”). I HATE (and have done so all my life) with ALL MY HEART the people who prey upon the innocent in the name of money, dogma, and control. They can take absolutely EVERYTHING I have, and I will not, and never shall, bow to the GREAT LIE. I have a vision of life and consciousness beyond their small and greedy, ignorant minds. I am beyond offers of gold, fame, and power. Make me homeless, for I do not care. It means nothing. It all lasts but a flashing moment. In the great scheme of Truly Marvelous Things, all their offers, of whatever they offer, are a momentary illusion, which if accepted as real, will rot your Being for millennia. There is Absolute Truth and there is Final Judgment. One should at least know that, and act accordingly with some degree of conscience.

Yes, the Imm.Tech./Mos Def “Bush knocked down the towers” cut is a truly smokin’ number, and I still play it in my multi-thousand watt car stereo system, even though I know Bush is just a marionette and an extorted participant in the NWO power equation (it is the spirit of the song that counts, and that spirit be supa good). I will tell you though that (die polizei) police have pulled up beside me, rolled down their windows, and said that they supported the messages written upon my bumper stickers (the controversial content which need not be revealed in detail herein for ID purposes). There are those amongst the “troops” and “watchdogs” who know what is going on, and I hope that they will join us, when the time is absolutely crucial and essential, and it’s gettin’ totally tight, and yet tighter still I’m afraid.

No, I have not seen it, and yes, because of this filmic void, I am an artistic and spiritual pauper. Thanks for your philosophical-aesthetic concern. This is the second reference you have made to the Argentine film “Man Facing Southeast” whenever I have mentioned the K-pax motif. If it is on your desert island list of movies, Casseia, then I must surely and shall grab a copy. I will check for this at my local, “esoterically excellent and hard to find film store” (God bless them esoteric film boutiques, eh?). To hear your super wonderful musics and singings has well been worth the trip. The Indian samosas with the tamarind sauce have been great too. Om Tat Sat, thanks a lot... You must dismantle your Central Banking System. It is a system of thievery.

Hey, and God Bless Kate’s band of musicians too.

casseia's picture

I'm surprised at your reaction, actually...

because I read that comment as a factual/historical reference to Nazi policy, not a propounding of it. There's a lot to be said about the fallacy of connecting genetics to identity, but I'm very tired from chasing elderly, incontinent pugs around my house-sitting house and mopping up their pee for the last two days.