Good News from Kevin Barrett

In response to the "Open Letter to Kevin Barrett" about his dialogue with Noam Chomsky
To: Petros Evdokas <petros@cyprus-org.net>
From: Kevin Barrett <kbarrett@.......>
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Kevin Barrett
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008
Thanks, Petros.
Sorry for the slow reply. After thinking it over, I decided that you're right. The personal information has now been edited out.
Feel free to continue to offer constructive feedback in the future.
Kevin
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Kevin Barrett's response reflects an excellent decision and, I'm happy
to observe, a responsiveness and sensitivity that's rare within the
9/11 Truth movement.
The materials documenting Kevin Barrett's recent exchanges with Noam
Chomsky - slightly edited now, to remove some personal information -
are a very good source of study for all of us who are burning with
questions on how to develop better relationships between the radical
and progressive networks of the Left, and the populist, ever-expanding
9/11 Truth movement. Finding unity in that context has proven elusive
so far.
For millions of people Noam Chomsky represents the semi "official"
voice of the Left within the United States. His approach in the recent
dialogue with Kevin shows clearly the irrational and authoritarian
mental~emotional streaks that fuel his (and that of many others on the
Left) almost absolute refusal to open their hearts and minds to
studying, researching, having conversations about the events of
September 11 as an Inside Job.
For Noam Chomsky and for many of our comrades and colleagues on the US
Left, a step like that borders on the unthinkable, the most intolerable
violation of their sensibilities. Please see the tip of that
uncomfortable iceberg surfacing in Kevin's and Chomsky's exchanges here:
"Noam Chomsky Does Not Want You to Read This"
By Dr. Kevin Barrett:
http://www.barrettforcongress.us/chomsky.htm
"Why is any of this important?" you may ask.
Good question!
There are two Fronts of the struggle for liberation in which the role of the US Left is crucial:
- resistance to the "endless war" presently unfolding in the Middle
East with US invasions, occupations and other forms of political,
financial and military domination;
- resistance to the domestic dictatorship enacted within the US with
legalization of torture and widespread surveillance without Court
warrants, unwarranted search and seizure operations, military
tribunals, maintenance of a shadow Government, suspension of crucial
elements of the Constitution, "normalization" of legal, constitutional
and human rights violations, etc.
The events of September 11, carried out by instruments of the ruling class for the interests of that ruling class, are pivotal in the emotional life of the public
in order to gain co-operation with those in power and acceptance for
the war and domestic dictatorship. The US Left, self-blinded and
emotionally paralyzed, can not fulfil its mission as a conscious actor
in the liberation movement unless it is able to shake off the paralysis
and catch up with the more politically advanced sectors of the
population which are active in the progressive and radical wing of the
9/11 Truth movement.
For as long as the so-called "masses" (I hate that term) accept the
official lies about September 11, the Peace, anti-war, anti-imperialist
and internationalist solidarity movement within the US will not be able
to get anything done.
For as long as the so-called "masses" accept the official lies about
September 11, the civil liberties and pro-democracy movement within the
US will not be able to get anything done.
The Left needs to see the need for removing the veil, helping the
people to become freed up from the emotional constraint, the shock and
trauma-induced docility and chauvinism brought on by the 9/11 Big Lie.
Why the Left? - Part One
For all of its clatter and adrenaline, the 9/11 Truth movement on its
own has not been able to do very much either "for itself" (even just
promoting the Truth in simple, dignified ways has proven a difficult
task for many of our people), nor has it been able to do much in the
two Fronts of the struggle for Peace and Freedom mentioned above which
are supposedly the directions in which Truth activism is being
invested. We still need to build up on our ability to mobilize,
organize, communicate and co-operate.
In the meantime, even paralyzed, confused and in denial, the US Left
has mobilized a combination of millions of people against the war in
both symbolic protest and Direct Actions at all levels of society.
There are major rallies and marches taking place in all major cities of
the country, and in every small town and campus there's a section of
the Peace movement that's well integrated with the community.
An excellent example of Direct Action against the war is the MayDay
strike against the Iraq war by West Coast dockworkers that shut down
the ports all over the coast. It was carried out by around 25,000
workers at 29 ports along the western US coastline, organized by the
International Longshore and Warehouse Union. More on that here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911truthportland/message/220
The action was endorsed by numerous Vets for Peace groups and by every Leftist organization in the country. But
so much more could be accomplished if the Left could see the strategic
importance of The Big Lie about September 11 and the liberating effects
of the Truth.
By contrast, in public actions "on the street" the Truth movement is
able to mobilize tiny numbers of usually obnoxious individuals with
mixed up politics who yell at people through bullhorns intimidating,
scaring and insulting them, or delivering loud and ridiculous speeches
to no one. Here's an excellent sampling of such activities in "street
actions" by people I know personally, documented by themselves on video
and published here (they're proud of it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0oZwp5ZAo
Why the Left? - Part Two
Even paralyzed, confused and in denial, the US Left has mobilized all
of its forces to combat the measures and institutions of the domestic
dictatorship by participating in all aspects of the pro-democracy
movement.
All over the country, progressive and radical lawyers of the American
Civil Liberties Union, the Lawyers' Guild and other groups are in Court
every day working to reverse unconstitutional and illegal acts of the
regime. Everywhere in the US, within unions, schools, temples and
churches, in small and large City Halls, there's progressive and
radical activists, socialists, communists, anarchists, liberals,
feminists, greens and autonomists working to restore democracy through
legislative action, strikes, electoral campaigns, demonstrations in the
streets, educational campaigns, and through the many forms of
communications media that the Left produces and operates. But so
much more could be accomplished if the Left could see the strategic
importance of The Big Lie about September 11 and the liberating effects
of the Truth.
By contrast, the public actions of the 9/11 Truth movement are often
precariously balanced between comedy and tragedy (or is it "stradegy"?).
See for example the West Coast Truth Convergence "street action" that
took place in San Francisco this last month - our Truth activists and
colleagues misled by Truth movement "leaders" who squeezed the event
into that really narrow space between the Shameful and the Ridiculous:
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1148
The dialogue between Kevin Barrett and Noam Chomsky published here
http://www.barrettforcongress.us/chomsky.htm
is instructive about many of the things that are wrong the relationship between the US Left and the 9/11 Truth movement.
Realities, correct and incorrect critiques, misperceptions,
misunderstandings, ideological enigmas and confusion, lack of
familiarity and lack of principles on instances where principled and
compassionate approaches are indispensable, all contribute to the chaos
and make the barrier between our movements wider.
But we need to find both ideological and practical ways to overcome that barrier.
Petros Evdokas
petros@cyprus-org.net
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html
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Related readings / "The Most Apocryphal Relationship"
Submitted by larry horse on Thu, 2008-05-15:
"is it just me, Petros?
or do you read like Chomsky for 9/11 troof?"
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1140#comment-10977
The better article, on evolving new forms of the Empire, and the role of
the US~Israel bond:
"The Most Apocryphal Relationship"
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/1140#comment-10973
Recently I've been finding some of Antonio Negri's work
that seems to point in the same direction - glad to see it, and also
glad to see that his perceptions are guiding some of his perceptions on
new forms (collective entities) that he sees rising organically from
within the global liberation movement as part of the "natural"
development of Capitalism and Empire (his concept of "the Multitude").
The Chomsky stuff came only in passing, but it's also really
relevant to the materials exchanged recently between him and Kevin
Barrett.
Thanks!
Petros
_________
howdy Petros...
Thanks again for sharing your perspective, and for taking in stride the skepticism some of us have expressed with regard to your solidly "left wing" approach to 9/11 truth. Rather than talk past each other, though, I really hope we can engage in a dialogue that addresses some of the concerns that I have given my experience not only with 9/11 truth but also with the fake/controlled left that I was much more a part of when I was focusing on antiwar activism (thinking at the time that 9/11 truth was 'too much' for people to accept, how foolish!)
To wit, and to cut to the chase, my concerns have to do with the history of international left wing movements as opposed to local populist movements that have not tended to paint issues in as ideological and universal terms as the former. Again for brevity's sake let's say I have come to be wary of the former and, with certain caveats related to Alex Jones/David Dees style xenophobia more interested in learning more about the latter, for example the political career of Huey Long.
At issue in my view is the role that unseen forces play in usurping and subverting the energies unleashed by the traiditional left wing internationalist view of class struggle. It is and has been the case from my reading of history that this internationalist movement is a double edged sword. While it is undoubtedly true that cross border solidarity is a potent weapon in the fight against oppression, and likewise that nationalist divisions have always been used by elites to divide the oppressed, it is also true that the elites themselves, not at all being a unified force in the world (not yet anyway) have used socialist and communist movements to strengthen their hands vis a vis other elites--Britain's alliance with the USSR in WW2 (and one could argue even the very rise of Nazism in Germany) seem to have been designed to preclude a German/Russian continental alliance that would have relegated Great Britain (and France) to second rate powers.
That history (and I admit I have just glossed the surface of it) and the current, seemingly bizarre reluctance of the internationalist left to admit that 9/11 was not the work of Arab Muslims gives many truthers, that is those who see 9/11 and the paradigm of deceit it represents, and not class struggle *necessarily* as their defining political concern, much pause. I myself am of the view that the more universal a movement or cause in scope, the more it has to ensure that it not become--nay, not BE ABLE to become, yet another tyranny, since a universal tyranny is infinitely worse than a group of tyrannies vying for the favor of the people. By the time I gave up on the controlled antiwar movement I had come to the conclusion that to me anyway anarchism and communism are not viable systems of governments, but best seen as political and moral philosophies respectively that can guide humanity as it strives to live in a more just world, one where we implicitly recognize the fact that we literally share everything in terms of our planet and that still values the freedom of the individual (not the individual corporation!) to seek their own path in the world. As ever, the signs seem to point to an elusive "third way", perhaps because of the binary thinking that our mass media encourage. To me 9/11 is the key and the indispensable map on the search for that way. If not us (truthers), after all, then who?
Just a Quickie
Howdy,
Thanks, those are very thoughtful and genuine concerns.
You wrote about
"...political and moral philosophies respectively that can guide
humanity as it strives to live in a more just world, one where we
implicitly recognize the fact that we literally share everything in
terms of our planet and that still values the freedom of the individual
(not the individual corporation!) to seek their own path in the world."
I'd be very happy if those were to be guiding principles around which
we can be united. They can form the basis of a whole lot of good things
we can do together.
Petros
More on the Fake Left
or,
"Left is Right and Right is Wrong
Better decide which side you're on"
- Tom Robinson Band
* * *
I grew up under two dictatorships, and I was actively involved in the clandestine resistance to both:
- one was a military dictatorship operated by a Right-wing Junta installed by the US Pentagon in Athens, Greece;
- the other was a dictatorship operated by the Church, installed by the
UK/US in agreement with the Soviet Union. It was maintained in power by
the local Communist Party. This dictatorship was on the island of
Cyprus, an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" located in the Eastern
Mediterranean region of the Muddled East.
The fake left, pseudo-socialist forces that had lent their political
power to the dictatorship in the years of my youth, were led by a party
named Akel. It was the largest per capita "communist" party in any
country in the world outside of the Soviet Union. (For many years in
the Left the terminology was to designate such parties was "the local
Moscow line party, or CP".)
I know first hand the feelings of treachery, betrayal, mindfuck and
authoritarian distortion, manipulation and ignorance which are
generated by the actions of forces and individuals disguised as
"Socialist", who bring on far more death, misery and suffering to
people than some outright (and honest) Right-wing dictatorships can
cause.
Fake leftist propaganda and fake leftist terminology dominated the
political consciousness of the population all throughout those years.
Nationalism and localism (artificial nation-building campaigns) were
couched in slogans of "internationalist solidarity against
nationalism". Racism, sexism and homophobia were institutionalized
forms of oppression everywhere in the country, and they were promoted
through "progressive" slogans of "resistance to fascism". Every single
person who disagreed with the party or with the Church dictatorship
that it supported was branded a "fascist", a "cia agent", an "extreme
Right winger". I grew up breathing and swallowing those accusations
hurled against me, my family, my comrades and friends on a daily basis.
I survived torture of various "creative" flavours at the hands of some
of these "leftist liberators", including beatings with fists, boots and
rifle butts, sleep deprivation, sexual humiliation, forced exercise in
suffocating heat conditions, I was made to do push-ups with my face in
piles of rotting excrement in which were writhing billions of maggots
reeking with ammonia, I was forced to crawl on my arms belly-down
through barbed wire and broken glass, and to "dance" with a bayonette
balanced with its tip down embedded in the center of my palm. Probably
one of the "best of the best" torture practices (at least among the
ones I can remember) that these "socialist defenders of humanity"
engaged in was the "safety-pin game". The sharp metal branch of the
safety pin is pressed in and then released like a spring so that the
tip hits the victim on the nose. Repeatedly. After several hundred of
these nerve-jarring blows, waves of sensory distortions and
hallucinations set in and it becomes impossible to stand up. I remember
phasing in and out of the here and now as my face was on fire with
pain, unable to see from the tears and the swelling in my eyes, while
others around me collapsed like empty sacks, thinking to myself, wow,
do they really believe that they're revolutionary Leftists and
Christians? How did they become like this?
My entire world was defined and controlled by these people. To the
point where I often came to feeling and thinking that everything,
everything where the struggle for liberty and equality are concerned,
is controlled, betrayed, rotten, a lie. All a Big Lie.
I was wrong.
I 'm grateful that I was blessed in my life to encounter true
Socialists, Communists and Anarchists, Feminists, Greens, Autonomists,
who (regardless of the fact that some of them don't even use those
words to describe themselves) are motivated by true feelings of love,
by true and genuine compassion, and embody real dignity and respect for
all living beings. They are honest, democratic, and truly embody the
best of the best of the political ideologies and practices of the
personal, social and spiritual liberation movement.
Personal dignity and consistency is not enough though, to make a
movement's ideology and praxis valid. The culture of liberation is
important, and indispensable. Personal responsibility and
accountability are "sine qua non" elements for building networks of
comrades who can co-operate and able to go together in the right
direction. But there's science required, as well. And spirit.
When Che Guevara introduced feminist principles to Third World guerilla
fighters there was a break of continuity in the rigidified concepts of
"struggle" which revolutionized the revolutionary process.
When the Weather Underground re-invented armed struggle so as to be
centered on using lethal force without killing anyone, there was a
moral ascendancy gained for the liberation movement and a new kind of
Path created for revolutionaries which is still valid more than forty
years later. Additionally, when the Weather Underground and its allied
above-ground mass-movement entities variously labeled as Yippies, etc,
incorporated the Psychedelic experience within the individual and group
process of liberation, they helped to resurrect and sculpt an ancient
form of worship, personal growth, and medicine into a modern tool for
social progress and liberation. Plus, for use as an instrument for
navigating the revolutionary movement.
When Lenin articulated the basics of Direct Democracy as vital and
obligatory elements interwoven within Revolutionary Socialism there was
for the first time a clarification of the difference between democracy
of the people as opposed to Corporate "democracy" of the capitalist
class. He stated that in order for the State to be abolished it can not
be simply seized and used as is, or "declared abolished"; it must be
"smashed and broken up" in order to be transcended, in concurrence with
the following requirements:
- abolition of the standing army (this includes police and all other
special armed bodies of suppression), and its replacement by the armed
people;
- all officials and representatives to be elected and subject to recall;
- the abolition of all representation allowances, and of all monetary
privileges to officials, the reduction of the remuneration of all
servants of the state to the level of "working people's wages";
- the rotation of duties so that administration, control, accounting,
etc. can be exercised by each and every member of society, both at the
workplace and in the civic arena;
- "expropriation of the expropriators", ie the transformation of
capitalist private ownership of the means of production, of social and
natural resources, into social ownership, commonly shared by all, owned
and administered together by all.
It is in this sense, he wrote, that scientific socialism sees the
revolutionary process as an evolutionary development through which the
armed, self-organized people can be self-governed, and it is in this
sense, that the State "begins to wither away. Instead of the special
institutions of a privileged minority (privileged officialdom, the
chiefs of the standing army), the majority itself can directly fulfil
all these functions, and the more the functions of state power are
performed by the people as a whole, the less need there is for the
existence of this power." [From "The State and Revolution"; please
"Related Readings" below.]
Deep-Ecology (radical Green) versions of that form of Direct Democracy
are practiced today by the Zapatista communities in all the liberated
zones where the forces of Empire can not reach.
The process of social change, whether by reform or revolution, is often
driven by blind and unconscious social and personal forces. It's only
when we organize ourselves together on the basis of shared values,
principles of association and co-operation, and armed with moral
integrity and political clarity that our motion actually generates any
movement forward. When political praxis is guided by theory and
nurtured with love and in tune with spirit, we experience true
liberation in the process, but we also build something constructive for
ourselves and for the generations to follow. Otherwise, what do, all
the struggles in which we engage, all the sacrifices either end up for
nothing, or worse (and more commonly) , become the vehicles for
manipulators, opportunists and authoritarians to install new forms of
oppression, new forms of exploitation, suffering, misery, poverty and
war. And that is where the fake left, the pseudo-socialists, the
stalinist, authoritarian forces become relevant.
In relation to the existence and form of the State, in particular, Marx had that same insight when he wrote that:
"Originating from the Middle Ages, there developed in the 19th century
"the centralized state power, with its ubiquitous organs of standing
army, police, bureaucracy, clergy, and judicature." With the
development of class antagonisms between capital and labor, "state
power assumed more and more the character of a public force organized
for the suppression of the working class, of a machine of class rule.
After every revolution, which marks an advance in the class struggle,
the purely coercive character of the state power stands out in bolder
and bolder relief." After the revolution of 1848-49, state power became
"the national war instruments of capital against labor". [from "The
Civil War in France"; please see "Related Readings" below.]
In order to break the vicious cycle of a series of purely coercive
States succeeding one another after popular revolutions and/or waves of
reform extending ad nauseum into the long road of history in a
parasitic association with Corporate Capital - with which they fuse,
nowadays, into a global Imperium - Consciousness, in all of its
dimensions, needs to be part and parcel of every effort of the
resistance. It needs to be built into every feature of the
pro-democracy movement, needs to be guiding every aspect of the
Socialist project. Otherwise, the Empire will simply continue to unfold
according to the Project for a New American Century ...with the only
hope remaining that perhaps someday it might be confronted by Duck
Dodgers in the 24th Century.
Regardless of whether we "believe in" gravity or not, it continues to
act upon all bodies despite our faith, despite our understanding, our
science and technology. In fact, in terms of gravity, our science and
technology are nothing other than complicated and - sometimes abstract,
sometimes concrete - ways of expressing exactly that: that gravity
exists and acts as a force per se, entirely independent of how it is
reflected by awareness or consciousness. Scientific development occurs
when gravity is accepted as prime quality of existence, built into the
geometry of the Universe. From that, arises all gravity-related
technology. Meaningful reflections of this render consciousness into
Consciousness.
Similarly, one of the most stupendous discoveries of science in regard
to what determines and shapes the landscape of social struggle and
politics is articulated by Karl Marx in these words:
"The materialist conception of history starts from the proposition that
the production of the means to support human life and, next to
production, the exchange of things produced, is the basis of all social
structure; that in every society that has appeared in history, the
manner in which wealth is distributed and society divided into classes
or orders is dependent upon what is produced, how it is produced, and
how the products are exchanged. From this point of view, the final
causes of all social changes and political revolutions are to be
sought, not in men's brains, not in men's better insights into eternal
truth and justice, but in changes in the modes of production and
exchange." [From "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific".]
It's the foundation of all theory and praxis within the context of
Scientific Socialism. It's the recognition that regardless of whether
we "believe in" production or not, or in the accumulation of labor
congealed into machines, tools, merchandise and products, it continues
to take place despite our faith, despite our understanding, our
ideologies. In fact, in terms of production, our political science and
ideologies are nothing other than complicated and - sometimes abstract,
sometimes concrete - ways of expressing exactly that: that production,
the accumulation of labor with its associated modes of production,
exists and acts as a force per se, entirely independent of whether it
is reflected by awareness or consciousness. Scientific development or
social progress occurs when this is accepted as a prime quality of
social existence, built into the geometry of human reality. From that,
arises all political ideology. Meaningful reflections of this render
consciousness into Consciousness.
Our political landscape is determined by the modes of production and by
the relations of groups of people who are defined as "classes"
according to the role of each group in the production and distribution
process. Regardless of whether one "believes in" Socialism or not,
Socialism itself can only be actualized to the degree that political
action is guided by Consciousness that is in harmony with the
development of the forces of production and which aims to a resolvement
of the class conflict which is now embedded in Capitalism, ie, the fact
that while production is an organized collective process carried out by
the co-operation of millions of people together on a daily basis, the
fruits of our labor are stolen at the point of production and sold back
to us, not to fulfil human needs but in order to raise profits.
This class conflict between the producers (wage workers) and the
private (Corporate) owners of industry is what determines the landscape
on which all social activity and political struggle that takes place in
today's world. Knowing this, helps us create maps of the political
landscape in order to navigate our efforts.
When Mao rebuilt the Red Army during and after the Long March,
reconstituting it into a political organization, he stipulated that its
members shall be community organizers, first, and their role as
warriors would only be a secondary or tertiary attribute. This, in
essence, was the turning of the great Chinese Revolution from a
pro-democracy and patriotic independence movement being misled by fake
Left stalinists into a genuine, continent-wide Socialist movement.
Education for the Reds in community relations, class relations, human
relations, methods of organization and daily hands-on work in
agriculture, civic administration and in community development projects
(public hygiene, food distribution, road building, etc), these became
with Mao's guidance a way for Socialists to actualize the basic tenet
of "serve the people" - military affairs became secondary, whereas all
emphasis and effort was invested in helping the population to become
self-organized on a new foundation that by-passed feudalism, and to
realize its own strength both in production and in self-defence. It was
in this context that the revolution empowered the people (peasants and
proletarians together) to overcome the warlords, overcome military
occupation by foreign armies, and overthrow its "own" class of
capitalists by restoring ownership of all resources back to the
community.
And when Mao many decades later came back to say "hey, both society and
the party need to be renewed and refreshed through new forms of
struggle against authority and to redefine liberty in modern terms"
initiating the Cultural Revolution, there it was again, the same
commitment to prevent a rigid authority from setting itself into power
eternally, a commitment to neutralize and disempower those opportunists
and manipulators who "waving the Red flag in order to oppose the Red
flag" had used the process of social change to exploit and oppress
people and to climb above others.
His concern was almost absurd, one might say, given that the party that
he headed already held State power in its hands, and had brought
industrial and agricultural production entirely under its guidance;
isn't it absurd to launch a revolution against one's "own" State power,
one's "own" party officials?
Isn't it ridiculous that the head of State of the largest country in
the world did not initiate a new "hire and fire" period to clean out
the social services, but instead went directly to the people and said
"only you have the power to restore clarity, dignity and socialism to
our country, only you can re-orient the State and the party to their
prime mission, which is to serve the people. You, we, together, let's
force those in power to live up to their socialist pretensions."
Foolish and ridiculous, right? But there is wisdom in that foolishness,
closer to the true liberation process than any of the pseudo-socialists
or authoritarian anarcho-poser, infatuated libertarian or rigidified
fake leftist we might find anywhere in place or time.
When Dr. Wilhelm Reich developed his science "of the subjective"
element of history, discovering the biological foundations of
authoritarianism and sadism, and created a new scientific understanding
of the sexual and psychological underpinnings of Fascism, the science
of personal change and social revolution was empowered as never before.
Soon it will be a eighty years since those excellent scientific
projects illuminated the Path for those who are dedicated to liberty,
and yet, the work is so advanced that only very few social political
organizations were able to integrate its knowledge into their practice
and even then, weren't able to do much with it. But progressive popular
revolts and insurrections made a great lot of good usage of that
knowledge.
Reich gave us a clear understanding through biology, sexuality,
psychology, class relations and family function, of how society
generates the petty tyrant and the Nazi, how exactly it is that
authoritarian Reds turn into a Red version of the Fascists. In that
sense, he was the first of the revolutionary Socialists to investigate
the similarities, the parallel character structures and oppressive
social activities in which both Fascists and authoritarian
fake-socialists engage. The equivalence of Black and Red Fascism, and
the liberating, democracy-building potential of a free sexuality became
defining concepts in his work that guided the French Revolution of
1968, the US New Left, and many millions of people engaged in the
struggle all over the world throughout the decades of the nineteen
sixties and seventies.
Fake left, pseudo-socialists, authoritarian Reds, all are without doubt
degenerate and poisonous elements of the movement, products of the era
of Capitalism and Empire whom we need to identify, to oppose and
neutralize at every opportunity.
But the general project of the liberation process, defined in "Leftist"
terms such as Socialism, Communism and Anarchism remains valid as ever.
Here, for instance, is one way of articulating the long and the short
view of that project, taken from the political papers of an
internationalist solidarity anti-war group named KaliMerhaba, published
under the title "The Short Statement":
"We seek to unite with [all] people ...who, like us, aim for the
re-uniting of all of Humanity's peoples, aim for the destruction of all
borders and the disarming of the armies guarding them, and for the
final overthrow of the governments arming and training them for that
purpose.
We aim for the overthrow of the system of profits and authoritarian
power, and for its replacement by the simple functions of ecological
Direct Democracy: a system of self-administration and self-government
within all of our communities, which are to be run by voluntary
Peoples' Councils at all levels, in the schools, the workplace, the
neighbourhoods, the villages and towns.
We believe that when the influence of the system of profits and of
authoritarian power is removed from both our external and internal
(psychological) world, people everywhere are capable of living as
equals who can respect and honour each other, and who are capable and
willing to make together the major and minor decisions which affect our
everyday lives as neighbours, co-workers, colleagues, friends, lovers,
comrades."
And further:
"...there are many radical Green-minded
individuals and organizations in all the countries of our region ...and
abroad, active in the heartlands of the imperialist countries, who wish
to see our communities re-united again, on the basis of a unity founded
on the global efforts to *replace* the socio -political system of
profits. We believe that our people can be re-united meaningfully only
on the basis of the shared efforts to replace the political system
currently exercised by authoritarian power and capital, with a system
of equality and justice for all, which is founded on co-operation (as
opposed to capitalist competition and exploitation), and founded on
self-government within our communities, instead of government by local
neo-colonialist 'managerial administration teams' appointed by global
and regional capital."
It's definitely a mouthful. But worth chewing.
Petros Evdokas
petros@cyprus-org.net
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html
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Related Readings:
"The State and Revolution"
by V. I. Lenin
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/
"Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045709/
"Socialism: Utopian and Scientific"
by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm
"Project for the New American Century"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_...
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_C...
"The Short Statement"
http://www.cyprusindymedia.org/The_Short_Statement-KaliMerhaba.htm
"Better Decide Which Side You're On"
http://www.tomrobinson.com/trb/songs.htm#bd
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The ChomskyControlledLeftWingThing,
or “Why Won’t Amy and Noam Talk About 9/11?â€
At the very moment the Jewish (I was expecting Palestinian) organizer of the al-Nakba “Free Palestine†march in my city told us to take down our “9/11 & The War on Terror are Frauds!†signs because, and I do not make this up, “the message of your signs are anti-Semitic†(Say what, mthrfkr?!), I knew right then (as if I didn’t already know) that “the Left†of now was the same old “controlled talk show†as when I left them the last time, when they all decided to go to work for IBM and Microslough in the Reagan ‘80s.
Americans have become accustomed to living under the fruits of constitutionally guaranteed, relative personal liberty and political freedom, discerned and fought for by their revolutionary founders. These founders of America were not only thinkers and writers—far better educated and wiser than many of the retarded used car salesmen and pimps who now walk the halls of Capitol Hill—but these American founding fathers were also men who could shoot a rifle and knock a can off of a fence post at a hundred yards. The real George Washington (not the Israeli dude over at 9/11 Blogger) led men into actual battle (the non-typing kind). The ability and skill needed to handle a firearm for your family’s or your country’s protection was not then looked down upon as “politically incorrect.†Thanks, however, to the “Columbine cover and play†propaganda thrown out by Michael Moore and his Israeli handlers, Ari and Congressman Rahm Emanuel, firearms are now looked upon domestically as “politically incorrect†(yet another “Left-wing,†bovine excrement term). This, of course, follows the old maxim: “to control them, you must first disarm them with propaganda so that they will trust you and disarm.†Those who plan the crimes, also prepare the plans for dealing with the backlash of when, or if, their crimes are revealed to the general public. This, of course, makes perfect sense. Wouldn’t you do the same if you were them?
In the 20th century, America fought many wars, always in other lands, to “promote democracy†and keep the world “safe from tyranny,†but what if, as the founding fathers very specifically warned of, America became a Soviet-like tyranny “from within†because of forces working from an insider’s position? What if the leaders of the “dissident left†and the MSM were controlled and manipulated in the very ways described by Katie Couric and other MSM “approved†news-readers of late? What if all the elections were fixed (as they actually in fact are), and your concerns for the direction the country is headed in, as well as your vote didn’t mean jack-fucking-shit in the actual realpolitik of the entire game-plan? What if millions of people (from both the so-called, “Left†& “Rightâ€) marched on a single day across the globe, loudly and quite clearly protesting the beginnings of an ISRAELI-INSPIRED, ANTI-SEMITIC WAR AGAINST THE PEOPLES OF THE MIDDLE EAST BASED UPON 100% CONCOCTED INTELLIGENCE, and all Dick (“I really like to break the hookers’ jawsâ€) Cheney has to say is, “so what?†In the light of fourteen U.S. Navy ships now acting as floating Gulags, in addition to the ever expanding networks of CIA-Israeli-PrivateContractor secret prisons around the world in this 100%, entirely and totally FAKE War on Terror, y’all might want to seriously think about doing a few sit-ups and learnin’ yer selves on how to knock a tin can off of a fence post at a hundred yards away like Sam, George, Patrick, and Tom. Form a trusted cadre of friends, and stay away from large, easily infiltratable and controlled “organized groups.†This was actually one of the Zionists’ secrets in their guerilla struggle to drive the British from Palestine, and it worked, because British Intelligence was never able to do any serious infiltration into an underground of small, completely separate groups united by a common goal. Again, with the compartmentalization. The “Big United Tent,†as far as a political underground is concerned, is highly susceptible to infiltration from Shill City.
In light of the national and global political and economic realities of the present, I would pose now a very serious question to both the “left†and “right†of America (as well as to the citizens of its northern vassal state Canadia, whose sons and daughters now die for the globalist interests of Central Asian petroleum and heroin control): “If the crimes, murders, and well planned, legislated tyrannies of the puppet masters and their extorted servants were fully revealed, and you couldn’t just legally vote ‘em out of office, or pressure them with street protests, or write a letter to the Editor, or eloquently complain of grave treasonous crimes (with volumes of evidence) to your representative in the Congress or Senate, would you then finally fight to take back your country?†What if any of these peaceful and legal procedures, in the reality of the American political situation, didn’t mean jack-shit, and that the response of the Demonic Powers That Be was, “So what?†My question is, after going to faraway Korea, Vietnam, and the Middle East to “protect America and democracy,†would you actually suck it up and really truly fight for the actual independence of your country, its true moral integrity, and its world-honoured Constitution and Bill of Rights? Would you commit and sacrifice yourself, as the true “Home of the Brave,†inside your country (not 10,000 miles away), when it is under occupation by a foreign power and the treasonous insiders who serve them? Before you answer, remember, the marches don’t mean shit, the letters to your representatives don’t mean shit, the elections are all Deibold-fixed, the media is the modern equivalent of 1950s-60s Pravda, and the U.S. Constitution with its world-renowned Bill of Rights is being burned with a cheap Texas 7-11 store lighter by a yahoo puppet of the DPTB. The blessed (and btw European) beneficiaries of the modern age’s first revolutionary national liberation movement of 1776 are not accustomed to answering such questions or even contemplating such decisions, and I fully realize that. We all grew up with the wonderful notions of “It can’t happen here,†and “all you need is love.†I am a man of peace, but if the shit really hits the fan within the next few years, we may all actually have to really learn to fight (as in true guerilla style) for our rights to not only “party,†but to also free our loved ones and friends (like Gretavo, Casseia, Kate, Lazlo, and you can add to this list 10 million others) from the many and varied, “spatially variant,†and near-operational Kellog Brown & Root “Political Detention and Correction Camps.†Remember kidz: 2 + 2 = 5
Oh yeah, the Chomsky thing. He knows perfectly well (working at MIT) who done did 9/11, and along with Amy Goodman, he is desperately trying to protect “his people†and the “state of Israel†from the super-ass, “you are again trying to kill us all†swell ideas of the Likud leadership. Chomsky, is of course, not involved (and probably completely horrified), but he is still required to perform his primordial duty—as a highly important component in the absolutely essential Jewish PR campaign—to keep the good, moral left-winger crowd away from the 9/11 thingy. That is—to sum it all up in a single sentence—because Israel and their U.S. foreign policy representatives and handlers are up to their frickin’ eyeballs in 9/11 involvement. There are no Arab terrorists involved here, only Israelis and treasonous Americans “unfortunately†recorded within the DC Madam databank. Why does an otherwise, fully information aware, Noam Chomsky or Amy Goodman suddenly put on the seemingly senile, irrational clown show of idiot responses, and “I’m busy and working now. Leave me alone,†when 9/11 questions are involved? I’ll give it to you—“left wing†and “right wingâ€â€”straight up with no chaser, short and simple: Likud and Israeli intelligence, along with dual Israeli-American moles, and American Jewish sayanim within various levels of the U.S. Government, NY State government, and NYC municipal hierarchies, carried out 9/11 to ultimately launch the “War on Terror†as the “Final Solution†against the Arab world in the interests and political goals of a century of racial, Zionist ideology, and to install a long-dreamed of fascist police state over America (cf. Gen. Smedley Butler) in order to support this plan. Somewhere along the way (after the British public tired of the scam), the U.S. became identified as the primary money cow, and here we are.
I am glad that Dr. Kevin published the full Chomsky correspondence, because now the whole world can see, in the example of Professor Chomsky, the modus operandi of the Zionist lie as it is expressed either from the artificial right or left-wing. As Rabbi Weiss would say, he lies like a Zionist, which has been described as trying to nail jello to a wall (cf. the Jon Gold Method). Even if you look like a total clown and a pompous, senile dip-shit, it is your duty to “your people†to shut down the 9/11 thing because “your people†are (in various ways we would prefer not to discuss) behind it, and if the Goyim find out the truth, they will launch another Holocaust against us (only this time it will be real). This is precisely why an otherwise fully informed and rational Noam Chomsky or Amy Goodman react the way they do when the whole 9/11 thing is brought up. Their reactions are letting you fully know who is behind it, without Mossad seeing them on YouTube blabbing about it, which of course would warrant a serious in-house visit. As I have mentioned many times before, the nutzo Jewish Elite are always willing to fuck with the Jewish masses for the sake of “The Project.†The “Jewish masses†are also well aware of this code, or they will be soon if they act like Adam Shapiro, and other human rights activists.
trying to nail jello to a wall!
Hi Lazlo,
I really enjoyed this bit from your article: "...trying to nail jello to a wall". What an excellent metaphor!
It's the supreme of aggravating ironies that some organizer of an
al-Nakba “Free Palestine†march says that a sign with the phrase “9/11
& The War on Terror are Frauds!†is "anti-Semiticâ€. Especially
since everyone in Palestine knows that Mossad and US intelligence
pulled off the operation together.
I experienced the same in New York City during a march in support of
the Irish Republican Army hunger stikers. Bobby Sands had just died and
two or three other comrades were on the brink. Everyone was
demoralized, just lumbering in the street (not even walking) with
banners drooping and barely moving. A number of us began to chant "IRA
all the way" and everyone got excited, stood up, began to smile and
...march. We were immediately asked to leave by the "leftiist"
solidarity organizers. They sent their "peace marshalls" to tell us - I
am not making this up: "Your chant is violent. Leave right now or we
call the Police". We left.
The best, I feel, in what you wrote above in your searing and totally
justified barbequing of the fake left is the advice for people to form
Affinity Groups, to "Form a trusted cadre of friends" with whom one can
develop deep personal and political relationships to carry out successful
and efficient actions up against the Machine.
Doing that generates multiple layers of safety and accountability, and it can
provide avenues through which to experience directly the foundational elements of popular democracy.
There's an excellent pamphlet from long ago on this (1971), titled
"Anti-Mass, Methods of Organization for Collectives",
here
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/blackchip/antimass.htm
and here, in plain text:
http://www.spunk.org/texts/misc/sp001304.txt
The print edition had beautiful simple graphics accompanying some paraphrases of the main text. One of them was "Mass is Class thinking on its Ass".
I tend to like that kind of political anal-ysis.
Petros
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Hi Lazlo,Thanks for calling
Hi Lazlo,
Thanks for calling a spade a spade. The left movement in my country ranges from environmental advocates, labor organizers, progressive politicians, all the way to armed rebels. I do not think that the left here (in contrast to the US) is in any way controlled by neocons or zionists, but they have been deathly silent about 9-11. Since the Philippines was an ex colony brutalized by the US, I was hoping the left would be more vocal about the US imperialist intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I talked to a buddy from college who was still active in mass actions of the left. He said they are aware of the 9-11 inside job story. However this does not seem to interest them that much. Its significance seems to escape them.
your VERY BOLD QUESTION
"...My question is, after going to faraway Korea, Vietnam, and the Middle East to “protect America and democracy,†would you actually suck it up and really truly fight for the actual independence of your country, its true moral integrity, and its world-honoured Constitution and Bill of Rights? Would you commit and sacrifice yourself, as the true “Home of the Brave,†inside your country (not 10,000 miles away), when it is under occupation by a foreign power and the treasonous insiders who serve them?"
I had been thinking along the same lines...led to the same conclusions. and the doves of love and peace have been caged and tortured, and are in dire need of being rescued...by whatever means.
very moving, motivating. Â thanks, dear LT
wish we knew who you were.....guess that is not in the cards right now, and i'm fine with that.
i did not vote in the "obama primary" yesterday...totally disillusioned. another day, another time, i would have been so caught up in this.
will be interesting to see if he really makes it to presidency...
how did the British public's tiring of the scam release them?
could you or anyone expound upon this a bit, please?
I'd wager
it's possible to "nail" Jello to a wall if you put in the nails first and lay the Jello on top afterwards -- not sure if that should still count as nailing, nor how it would reflect on the metaphor, though. Also, I want an assault rifle -- after what Solzhenitsyn said, I wouldn't wanna be one to repeat or rhyme with history.
take a bow, perps
for months truthers at 911blogger have tried and failed to get thru to barrett. but this guy comes out of the blue and makes barrett see the light? two perps working together to give each other cred? nice show.
"This guy"? "Perps"?
What the fuck are you talking about, mouse?
I think it's quite interesting that Petros (who has been around for a long time, btw) has succeeded where the strident, screeching Truth Cops have abjectly failed.
lol u r a joke
>I think it's quite interesting that Petros (who has been around for a long time, btw) has succeeded
coz they're both perps. duh.
get real. no one needs one needs to be told publishing personal information without permission is wrong. he knew that. barrett needed an excuse to save face. enter this newcomer "petros".
[edit: blah blah blah... I'm not a very bright mouse... blah blah...]
What may be difficult for you to understand...
...is that there is a real world, as well as an online one, in which real people, known to each other, communicate. In other words, little mouse fantasies about cooperating perps look kinda silly to real world people.
wat may be difficult 4 u 2 understand...
is when its edited out that barrett's campaign manager WAS CONVICTED FOR DRUNK DRIVING it confirms this site is helping [him] and his manager with pr.
[edit: No, actually I didn't intend to hide that -- frankly, I don't care. I removed your use of a misogynist obscenity and some mousie logorrhea.]
if "petros" has been around for so long why wasn't he saying something about barrett sooner? perp bust!
[edit: "perp bust" -- wow, that's an awe-inspiring act of deductive logic. Actually, Petros has said things about Kevin before this, but I know mice have a short life span (and even shorter attention span) so perhaps it was before your time.]
> as well as an online one, in which real people, known to each other, communicate.
duh. just because people are known irl doesn't mean none of then are perps.
but keep working it. this site might get an academy award!
BARRETTS MANAGER WAS CONVICTED FOR DRUNK DRIVING
thats fact not fantasy [edited -- see above]
[Whatev, mousie. Bye now.]
drunk driving?
OMFG not only was he driving drunk but was actually CONVICTED for it?
And he's still free to roam the land? Why isn't he in gitmo???
GMAFB, drunk driving don't mean nothing. Even your freaking president has been busted for it, http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html Grow up, mouse.
Editing other people's posts
[Edit: Editing anonymous posts is our responsibility and privilege as board moderators. If you don't wish to be edited, register to post. --c455]
I tried posting this earlier
I tried posting this earlier but it didn't go through... I hope it was just a fluke and not more of the same creeping censorship which we are seeing on more and more "truth" sites. This is a VERY important message from Kevin Barrett about our need to unify:
A Call for Unity in the 9/11 Truth Movement
Jim Fetzer, who founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth with Steve in 2006, then fell into an acrimonious dispute that split Scholars into two groups, is now admitting he was wrong when he cast aspersions on Steven Jones' work and said it looked like a dead-end.
Jim Fetzer writes: "I have tremendous admiration for Steve's recent paper 'Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction,' co-authored by Frank M. Legge, Kevin R. Ryan, Anthony F. Szamboti, and James R. Gourley: http://www.911blogger.com/node/15081 I think it is brilliant the way the authors made their points by 'agreeing' with NIST and FEMA. While I remain convinced that conventional explosives alone cannot account for the nature and extent of the damage to the World Trade Center, I also welcome Steve's ongoing research on thermite and thermate residues. Thermate and thermite may well have contributed to the destruction of the Twin Towers and even been used to bring down WTC-7. I have invited Steve to return to my show for another interview, assuring him that I will let Steve get in a word or two now and then. I would like to do whatever I can to acquire a united front for 9/11 research, including urging us to support those rarest of animals, 9/11 truth candidates who are running for office. Someone like Kevin could make a huge difference."
Jim also recently wrote: "I believe we can succeed if we show more tolerance and less disrespect for one another...As a philosopher, it pains me to see so many otherwise intelligent individuals savage one another for inappropriate reasons based upon ignorance and fueled by rumors. We must be willing to exercise our minds if we are going to figure out what happened on 9/11 and make a change in our history."
Please also note that Jim Fetzer (a) has stated his disagreement with the current direction of Judy Wood's research, and (b) does not argue that no planes hit the World Trade Center.
Jim Fetzer has been bashed by many in the 9/11 truth movement for his handling of the Scholars split and his openness toward controversial research positions. I think that some of these criticisms have merit. But to the extent they've marginalized Jim, it has been a net loss to 9/11 truth, because Jim is among the best (and best-credentialed) communicators in the movement, especially in his introductory lectures to general audiences. Here in the Midwest, much of the 9/11 truth movement is made up of people who were introduced to the topic by Jim's terrific introductory lectures.
Here is David Ray Griffin's take, written in response to someone who had harshly criticized Jim Fetzer:
"Jim Fetzer has done a lot of good work and did much to build up the scholarly component of the 9/11 truth movement.
"It is true that I ultimately dropped out of his organization (Scholars for 9/11 Truth) and instead, along with many others, joined Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, which is associated with Steven Jones. But my leaving involved issues of style rather than substantive matters (although it's also true that Jim had used his position as head of Scholars inappropriately, I thought, to promote some controversial theories, rather than remaining publicly neutral while allowing Scholars to be a place where these theories could be debated in a scholarly manner; but these are matters of judgment, on which sincere people can disagree).
"Part of the good work Jim has done is the article he co-authored with Captain May and two other military men."
I am very happy to hear major figures in the 9/11 truth movement saying kind things about each other. The way I see it, the 9/11 truth movement is like a family. We have our quarrels and our differences, and we definitely have a weird uncle or two. But when Bush comes to shove, we need to stick together - especially when we're under attack by outsiders, which is pretty much all the time. We can make it clear that we don't agree with our weird uncle on everything, without trying to drum him out of the family.
Social scientists know that the most important factor that makes any group successful is what the world's first social scientist, Ibn Khaldun, called "assabiyah," which has been translated as "an intensified mode of social cohesion produced through biological and fictive kinship ties." When people feel like family, and work toward a goal, they succeed. When they fall into factions and quarreling, they fail. It really is that simple.
The worst way a group can fall apart is when it starts scapegoating its own members, rather than attacking the outside enemy and focusing on the goal that unites. The scapegoat syndrome is brilliantly portrayed in Shirley Jackson's short story "The Lottery," which describes a community that randomly selects a member for human sacrifice each year. The 9/11 truth movement seems vulnerable to this tendency to scapegoat people on our own side, rather than fighting the anti-truth forces.
I have consistently tried to promote unity in the 9/11 truth movement. During the Scholars split, I was the only person that both sides trusted, which is why I ended up as the neutral custodian of the domain name st911.org. I invite radio guests from all factions and outlooks, and try to treat them decently and listen to what they have to say. I have tried to mediate between Jews, Christians, and Muslims, hoping that each group would give the other a fair hearing - a hope that seems to have been in vain, since it has become thunderingly obvious to me that most non-Muslim Americans, including some in the 9/11 truth movement, don't have the slightest interest in what Muslims think about anything, because, deep down inside, they don't see us as full, equal human beings. (Indeed, I have been told by a participant in the search committee that I was disinvited from at least one 9/11 truth event because I was Muslim...just as I have been expelled from academia for sharing the views of 80% of Muslims on 9/11, falsely accused of sharing the views of the majority of Muslims on the Nazi holocaust, and so on.) Despite being regularly subjected to ad-hominem, implicitly and explicitly Islamophobic attacks, I have only returned fire in the case of three extremely obnoxious people who were harassing me in the most odious fashion imaginable: Nico Haupt, Mark Rabinowitz, and Rick Siegal, none of whom I consider genuine seekers of truth. Apart from those three people, I don't believe I have ever had a seriously unkind word to say about anyone in the 9/11 truth movement.
I think many 9/11 truth activists have made a mistake by not recognizing how important it is to treat the whole 9/11 truth movement like family, focus on defeating the anti-truth forces, and keep our eyes on the prize. Most of the issues that pro-truthers quarrel over are relatively unimportant, compared to the supreme importance of assabiyah, or "family feeling." Whereas most of us (correctly) think there is more evidence for thermite than for directed energy weapons as a causal factor in the destruction of the World Trade Center, the people we are trying to convince - the general public - think controlled demolition is itself kooky as all get-out. To them, no mechanism could possibly be kookier than any other. Likewise, to the general public, controlled demolition is just as wacky as no-planes or video fakery. The mistaken notion that a few weird uncles and aunts pursuing controversial research agendas is a mortally-threatening PR problem has led sincere researchers and activists to waste time and energy in destructive infighting about issues that don't matter much - with profoundly destructive effects on the assabiyah of the 9/11 truth movement. If there are any disinformation agents out there, they are the ones promoting conflict, inciting witch-hunts against people in the 9/11 truth community, and generally trying to turn us into the People's Front of Judea versus the Judean People's Front: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE&eurl=http://donklephant.com/2...
Many terrific 9/11 researchers unintentionally damage the assabiyah of the 9/11 truth movement by virtue of their narrowly scientific education and outlook. Our educational system, especially scientific education, trains people in convergent thinking rather than divergent thinking. We are trained to think there is one right answer to every question - it must be either A, B, C, or D. Anyone who disagrees with us must be just plain wrong. If that person persists in clinging to the wrong answer, they are so damaging to the cause of Truth that they should be scapegoated and expelled from the community.
While convergent thinking has its place, divergent thinking is far more powerful and vastly more important. Instead of testing for the one correct answer, a divergent-thinking test would ask you to come up with the ten best potential solutions to a real-world problem. If you came up with a bunch of great ideas, you'd get an A - even though nobody will ever perfectly agree on which ideas were best. Divergent thinking is holistic, values-drenched rather than value-neutral, approximative rather than exact...and, for most human endeavors, vastly more useful than convergent thinking. A good convergent thinker can sometimes help clarify certain disputed empirical and theoretical questions. But good divergent thinkers get things done in the real world.
We need divergent thinking in the 9/11 truth movement - different strategies for pushing 9/11 truth to victory, different approaches to the various research topics, different perspectives on all of the many questions related to 9/11 truth. To fully encourage the best divergent thinking, and to build the assabiyah that will bring us victory, we need to treat each other like family, regardless of political tendency, religious or philosophical outlook, or any other factor that divides us. I hereby declare that all of you who are sincerely working for 9/11 truth are and will remain like family to me. Don't be a stranger - feel free to call in to my radio shows, and if you're ever in Lone Rock, Wisconsin, be sure to drop on by!
Kevin Barrett
http://www.barrettforcongress.us
Please note my new email address: kbarrett@merr.com
creeping censor of annoying mices
I've got half a mind to spike your comment just for the intro:
> "I tried posting this earlier but it didn't go through... I hope it was
just a fluke and not more of the same creeping censorship which we are
seeing on more and more "truth" sites."
First you're denouncing creeping censors and you say this is a "truth" site as if not really true. Then you deliver a "VERY important" call for unity??
Who are you? Sign up for an account and don't give us this backhanded insult with truth in quotes. If you won't do that, don't bitch if your comments don't appear.
Of course I wasn't referring to this site
This is a site for the real truth. I was referring to the so-called "truth" sites like 911Blogger.com, etc. that have censored this very important message from Dr. Barrett. I was worried that it might be happening here as well but didn't mean to imply anything offending. Also please note that Dr. Barrett and Dr. Fetzer will appearing along with JESSE VENTURA on Air America radio this week! This is a major breakthrough for us!
PS
I did sign up but I never received a verification email?
do you mean the
"Account details for" Email or a follow up telling you that your account has been approved?
I just tested it and got the "Account details for" Email right away after signing up...Â
(PS to Gret, you can delete the application for 'Tooly O Bomb-ah' as its just me)
see if you got one now...
if not, let me know what your username was...
if god wanted us to be unified he would not have made Uncle Fetz
I think Kevin Barrett is a swell guy (for all I know) but his effort to rehabilitate Uncle Fetzer makes me think twice. Also, calls for unity whether they come from Jon Gold, Arabesque or anyone else are too often used to manufacture consensus where none exists...
Differences are important
I agree.
Differences in ideology, in behaviour, style, actions and demeanor,
differences in goals and methods, all sorts of differences between
individuals and groups need to be respected, understood, analyzed and
processed in good faith before any unity can be attempted.
Unity is "a good thing" (as they say in Amerikkka) but on what basis? And in which context?
Every agreement on unity needs to be defined according to the specific points of unity, and also according to elements that are not part of the agreement.
There is vey little common sense, negotiation, exploration, dialogue or
even just plain respect among 9/11 Truthers, at present, to forge any
kind of unity on the basis of anything. Issuing "calls" for Unity shows good intentions, but the question of How exactly is Unity to be achieved is most often ignored.
In everything we do, we need to be asking about (or putting forth) the
specific values and principles on which Unity is to be founded. That's
always a good start.
Petros
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