Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject:

The truth movement has no credibility. Frankly it's offensive and retarded. Because there are just a handful associated with it that give a shit about truth and reality. For those of us that do.......

I don't like it when a female flight attendant begs for her life and pleads how she doesn't want to die just as a jihadi shitbag brainwashed asshole rips into her juggler vein for Allah, on his way to kill everyone else on the plane. I don't like it that over 200 people decided that they would rather jump 100 stories and disintegrate on the pavement rather than be burned to death. We don't know how many decided to burn to death instead of jumping. That happened before any building came down. It happened because a passenger jet flew into it. Those passenger jets were hijacked by assholes.

These assholes were not Atheists from Sweden. They were Muslims. And since I'm not a pacifist I wouldn't mind blowing the brains out myself of any jihadi asshole that thinks killing infidels pleases Allah, which is why I went back into the Armed Forces after 9-11. How many Jreffers volunteered? Some probably did. Most ate cheeseburgers at their keyboard while making fun of "truthers". I don't mind "debunkers" if they are honest. Frankly IMO an honest debunker is a "truther". I've done my share of debunking myself.

We were not attacked on 9-11 because some retards hated our freedom. They hated our government and what it does. They were also brainwashed by religion. Frankly whatever your reason is for wanting to park a passenger jet into a skyscraper---it aint good enough. There is no reason good enough to do that. But how about some reality? Israel was founded by terrorists. It worked. Israel itself is proof, to the terrorists, that terrorism might work. And Israel is proud of their terrorists past (and some say present).....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#In_Israeli_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_%28group%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

But gosh Jimd3100Stein you're starting to sound anti-Semitic! No I'm not calling for the destruction of Israel, what I'm saying is ground zero on "the war on terror" is not lower Manhattan it's the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and it's about time someone said so. We were not attacked because "they hate our freedoms" we were attacked because of our governments inference in the internal affairs of other countries and our governments unwavering support for Israel no matter what it does.

The world hates the U.S. enough without "truthers" telling the world how nice and wonderful Muslims are and there are no jihadi brainwashed murdering fruitcakes. The U.S. just framed them in order to kill more of them. It's BS. Those assholes should never have been let into the country in the first place and it wasn't just Hazmi and Mihdar they were aware of.

Our Government: "you guys got killed because you are so free"

No those people were killed on 9-11 because you are an asshole and then let these other crazy assholes in the country, then you lie about it. And you classify everything to keep the citizens in the dark about what you do as the citizens pay for all of it. Start declassifying documents. Stop keeping the citizens in the dark - I don't give a fuck if Dick Cheney or Prince Bandar is embarrassed by the truth. If the government is going to claim those people at the WTC were killed because they are so free how about letting the victims survivors have the freedom to see those 28 pages that deal with who helped kill them? Did you all notice how the role of Saudi Arabia was a cover up in the joint Inquiry and then also covered up by the 9-11 commission. During 2002 while at the very same time the Bush Administration was conducting a cover up concerning Saudi Arabia's role in the attack, they were trying to convince Americans Iraq had the role in 9-11. This is not just a cover up it's treason.

The military lied under oath. G Tenet didn't just commit perjury during the Joint Inquiry hearings....he also committed perjury during the 9-11 commission hearings, and now we have a new spin--"oh...they wanted to turn the 9-11 hijackers into informants and screwed up...that's all". First off, that is nothing but a conspiracy theory, and if debunkers are OK with cover ups and perjury by Government officials I can guarantee you will have bad government. So maybe you shouldn't be "OK" with it.

The declassifying of documents. There are a lot of stuff that needs declassified. Debunkers no doubt will say that we have no right to put our national security at risk just to please a demented "truther" if you feel that way you might want to try pulling your head out of your ass. As for the 28 pages of the joint Inquiry on the Senate side the Head democrat Bob Graham thought they should be declassified. The head republican Richard Shelby thought they should be declassified. On the congressional side the Head Democrat Nancy Pelosi thought they should be declassified, the Head Republican Porter J. Goss is the only one of the four that went along with the idea, and he stated that eventually they should be released. He was shortly after that given the job of head of the CIA by Bush. There are a bunch of other documents that need to be declassified but we are just to darn free to know what our beloved honest trustworthy government does, it's just none of our business I guess. I consider that a bunch of BS, it's perfectly fine for a mother to see her son go off to Afghanistan and come back in a box after he was killed by a bullet his own mothers taxes probably paid for with the billions we gave the Pakistani Government as they hid Bin Laden and helped the Taliban kill our own troops, but she can't see Prince Bandar's MFR from the 9-11 commission, and a bunch of others along with it. It's perfectly fine for a soldier to volunteer to fight "the war on terror" and go after those behind the 9-11 attacks only to be sent to Iraq and get blown to bits by a roadside bomb, but he was never allowed to see that it was Saudi Arabia not Iraq helping those behind the 9-11 attacks, but Bush and his Saudi friends don't think he, or us, need to see any of that. Evidently Obama has decided to agree with that.

Yes there is a need for a "truth movement" but the fruitcakes, and terrorist apologists, and con artists, and snake oil salesmen have no businesses trying to associate themselves with it, and when they are not exposed and shunned it destroys the whole thing.