Jon Gold
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 998
PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:54 pm

Blogger is so fucking compromised... Balsamo? Manchurian Candidate? WHAT THE FUCK?!? Who the FUCK are these people?

Rancho Truth
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 318
Location: Washington, DC

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:26 am
everybody hates 911blogger : ( ...

nobodyparticular wrote:
This is a classic example of how 911blogger seems to be framing the debate: allow people to make false statements against banned users, and the banned users can't respond.

LillyAnn is quite correct that Sarns made false statements about TWO banned users: Kevin Barrett and Adam Syed. She is correct that Sarns misrepresented Barrett's rhetoric. Speaking of the possibility of Israeli involvement is HARDLY the same thing as declaring that "The Jews Did 9/11!!" And Barrett was speaking specifically of an interview he conducted with one of the BBC's most preeminent Middle East reporters, during which the role of possible Israeli intelligence agency involvement was discussed.

In fact, Barrett is an extremely bright scholar and is very careful to never conflate Israeli criminals with "The Jews." Why Sarns would choose to frame Barrett as claiming "the Jews did 9/11" is anyone's guess, but it's certainly irresponsible.

With regard to Syed: I challenge anyone to show me where he "announced" he is a "revisionist." Toward the end of the show, the conversation did steer toward the direction of the Holocaust with regard to the fact that Barrett hosted a debate about a month ago with the author of a book for which Syed wrote an Amazon review. That book, "Debating the Holocaust," examines the revisionist controversy in depth, and indeed, in that book's introduction and first chapter, the author disavows the notion that the holocaust "didn't happen" or is some kind of Zionist "hoax."

Indeed if you listened to the Barrett episode, you'd hear that Barrett very firmly said: "I'm not convinced that the Revisionists have made their case."

Whether Syed believes they've made their case or not is his business, but Cincinnati 9/11 Truth has a very active weekly TV show in addition to regular street actions, and I don't think you're going to find Syed standing on a street corner any time soon holding a big sign saying "Holocaust Truth NOW!"

Finally, if we zoom out of the trees and look at the entire forest, Syed is not the only one to have been banned here without explanation. We also have Stefan, OneSliceShort, Adam Ruff. At least. None of those people have uttered a word about the Holocaust. Who knows who else has been quietly censored, especially since one of the moderators here, loose nuke, says he will not comment on individual cases. So we're all just left guessing who has been excluded - for whatever reasons - and who hasn't, hardly a situation involving accountability and transparency. The comments section the past few weeks has been rather quiet compared to several months ago.

Here's a constructive situation that would clear the air considerably here: The moderators should publish a list of everyone who has been banned here or placed in a moderation queue - and the reasons why - but my guess is that that exercise in accountability and transparency would expose the true bias at this site, a bias now evident to anyone who is careful enough to pay attention to the undercurrent of censorship that has invaded what was once the premier source of 9/11 information.

Assuming no such accounting will be forthcoming, I think it's time for a new, uncensored, accountable website that will bring us ALL the 9/11 news and research - not just what the moderators here deem is "politically correct" - whatever that means.

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-06-15/wearechangela-organizer-faces-terr...

I guess that means nobody hasn't heard about WTCDisinfo, which is right up his alley.
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victronix01
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
Posts: 1555
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:10 pm

Thanks for dealing with it Erik. It's a sick job, in a way, and if we each do it for as long as we can, it spreads out the nausea. The sickest job of all is wikipedia, the 9/11 pages on there. I burned out awhile ago on that. But it's a different color of illness from dealing directly with people on forums.