What's On the Mind of All Those Righteously Angry Egyptians?

I hope the Egyptians get a better government that will hold up their interests and that of their oppressed Palestinian neighbors. This development must be worisome to the Zionists who have been using Mubarak to wall in the Palestinians.

Richard Engel, On The Ground In Egypt, Shows Tear Gas Canister Stamped 'Made In The USA'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/28/richard-engel-egypt-tear-gas_n_...

It's pretty difficult to boil down the entirety of the complications that exist between the United States and Egypt into sixty seconds, but this segment offered by MSNBC's Richard Engel possibly comes the closest.

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ENGEL: You talked earlier about anti-American sentiment and a lot of that has been because the United States while today the Press Secretary is saying how they've been talking about Egypt and the need for reform and bringing up this at every meeting that's not the way many Egyptians see it. Most Egyptians see the United States as having stood solidly by President Mubarak while the government here grew more and more corrupt. And they see the Americans as complicit in it. And just today, for example, when we were out on streets this is what a lot of people were showing us about American involvement. If you can see in my hands this is one of the tear gas canisters and very clearly written in English on it, it says "Made in the USA by Combined Tactical Systems from Jamestown, Pennsylvania. And they say this is the kind of support that the United States has been giving to the Egyptian government and bears some responsibility, although today it it trying to say that it never backed Mubarak so much, it has been calling for reforms for a long time, Egyptians don't see it that way.

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The primary reason the United States is allied with Hosni Mubarak's regime is that Mubarak has been a key player in the Israel-Palestine peace process ... such as it is, I mean -- the release of the "Palestine Papers" has revealed that there may not be as much of a "process" going on as many of us were led to believe. It's perhaps an unfortunate, though entirely fitting, coincidence, that the last time these very same tear gas canisters made news, it was in the West Bank, with a fatal outcome.

Watched this all day live on Al Jazeera Friday, amazing and wonderful scenes watching the people acting for change- they are an inspiration.

Trouble is, these courageous people have been oppressed ,swindled, and brutalised by government for 30 years before they acted, so what hope is there in the far more sophisticated western democracies which operate with the same corruption and illegitimacy yet with the illusion of democracy and (pre net neutrality) total media control over how all issues and politics are framed.

Don’t know what it is, but recently with this CIT split thing ( not that I don’t also smell a rat in the highly promoted bickering which has distracted and damaged the effectiveness of the movement, and the fact I am still here after a year because I also agree that CD is the best first expression of the movement ) I am getting the sense that
this 911 truth issue whist of primary importance still in demonstrating with unusual proof the criminality of our governments, will not be the issue that en masse causes change in the western pseudo democracies. IMO a change will have to come first before 911 truth is ever accepted and only when culturally normalised (thru tv) will it ever not be ‘conspiracy theory’ to a majority.

I think this current disillusionment of mine is mainly due to the fact that I like you all see the level to which this movement has been neutralised by infiltrators and put that as one of the main causes for lack of effectiveness of the movement. Also I am disappointed that very little effort or even discussion has ever gone into how the movement actually effects change in a sown up political process. Alternative power has to come from somewhere, be it unions, or people power on the streets, and 911 awareness does not appear to be doing the job ( amazingly) of getting people angry enough to act for any change. Of course tho, it will always be a worthwhile pursuit to educate more people as to the emphatic proof we have as background to any possible future motivations.

In the mean time my respect and thoughts go to cultures who do have the intelligence and education to claim and demand their inherent right to have a government who works for them . I have also been looking at the Anonymous group’s potential, rhetoric and actions as an interesting possibility for change, although the same old questions arise around how valid their leadership are and why they love Assange so much when he so obviously appears to be fake.( the latest round of ‘leaks’ all being about how the US actually sponsored the revolution and the fact that all the new Egyptian government stooges are really good guy’s- MY ASS!)

The BBC yet again showed their true colours on Friday!
After a day of seeing the people fight battles on the streets with the armed thugs dressed in plain clothes. Gangs of them working with the pigs fired US made teargas
cartridges & picked out stragglers from the people, and beat on them with sticks in scenes reminiscent of Kubrick. Blood was on the streets, people appeared to have died in front of the Al Jazeera live cameras , but by the end of the day, defying the curfew, the people were still there, the thugs and police had dissapeared, and the HQ of the ruling party was on fire. This day when the internet and most communication was severed from Egypt, Al jazeera was off air to Egyptians, but on this day when propaganda was paramount, and all other sources were censored, the good old BBC kept on broadcasting, and as if scripted by Mubarak himself, Jeremy Bowen on the streets of Cairo chose to show scenes of unbroken police lines around ‘freedom’ square and emphasise how they were holding strong , and in summation (somehow missing the fact that the ruling party HQ located on that square was burning and being looted. He expressed his opinion that the obviously world changing events we had seen live were in fact just opening gambits and the regime would not really be challenged by events so far of this day . With the (Unmentioned )Party HQ burning somewhere in the background, this unmitigated gatekeeper shill addressed the news hungry public and summarised the situation in two possible outcomes

1. The government might have to make some concessions,
2. There might be a brutal backlash against the people instead.

C**T !!!!!!!!

Breaking news says Mubarak has stepped down.

May the courage of Egyptians inspire the oppressed people in other countries to stand up to their rulers and demand real change.

I hope these events inspire Americans to work up the courage to demand an immidiate military pull out from Iraq and Afghanistan.